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Dragon December 3rd, 2015 6:10 PM

Improve your Battling: Replay Critique Revived
 
Credits to Anti who was the creator of this thread originally! I've just decided to take over it.

Anywho, to those who don't know what this thread is about, the goal of this thread is to improve your battle execution. While you may have a decent or solid team at your hands, the next step that separates a good player, from a great player, is how they execute the place style of said team.

So here, all you need to do is post a replay of yours where you feel like you could have played better. Coming from a loss, could there have something that you could of done that would of secured you the win, but you weren't sure how? Perhaps you want to learn why a battle was one-sided against your favor? That sort of thing!

I will help you improve your overall gameplay, but if anyone wants to chip in, you're more than free to do so! Now, feel free to post away. c:

KorpiklaaniVodka December 4th, 2015 12:33 PM

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-300709706

vs stall, won with luck + some **** talk at the end.

Anti December 15th, 2015 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KorpiklaaniVodka (Post 9021633)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-300709706

vs stall, won with luck + some **** talk at the end.

your opponent played terribly and with a laughably unimaginative stall, no idea what he's complaining about at the end when he didn't bother to preserve his tornadus checks (not like he built very well for it, but whatever).

your play was mostly fine, you probably want hyperspace fury on hoopa so slowbro doesn't 6-0 you.

Nah December 18th, 2015 6:45 PM

Figure I might as well make use of this thread again.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-306651133

I mean I won, but probably could've done better than that, y'know?

btw the Toxicroak/Mega Altaria/Reuniclus bit is just something I pulled from here

Dragon December 18th, 2015 8:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nah (Post 9040562)
Figure I might as well make use of this thread again.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-306651133

I mean I won, but probably could've done better than that, y'know?

btw the Toxicroak/Mega Altaria/Reuniclus bit is just something I pulled from here

I think you played pretty well but your opponent was making some silly lil'blunders..

I think your only major mistake in that match was staying in with Mega-Altaria to Roost while he had a Sylveon. Maaaaybe could of had a much better time against his Skarmory, having Fire Blast and all. (unless he decides to go for a Roosting-stall play, but that still left him with very little options in the end).

Anyway, M-Altaria against Sylveon, even if you were expecting Heal Bell, it still waaaaas pretty risky and he had nothing much to lose, going for a Hyper Voice. If that was the case, just remember to weigh in risk vs. reward.

gimmepie December 19th, 2015 7:25 AM

vs Bot

vs Dark Azelf

Figured I'd give you two vastly different battles for comparison.

Dragon December 19th, 2015 7:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimmepie (Post 9041181)
vs Bot

vs Dark Azelf

Figured I'd give you two vastly different battles for comparison.

I'll give you my impressions: vs Bot, well.. it's the bot, but yeah. :D

I'd say you did pretty well exploiting it's habits and what not, but, just a small thing I'd recommend, against a Volt-Turn team, I'd be best to set up rocks right away, and then reveal your hand to deal with in-coming bulky water pokemon like Rotom-W. Gives them more pressure earlier than later!


vs. Dark Azelf, kinda straight forward, I'd say the general rule of thumb battling against a Mega-Sableye is to not go for any status or residual field damage moves until you find a good way to neutralize it, or know for sure they wouldn't risk switching in to it. (or by the off chance on having a Mold Breaker user that knows Stealth Rock).

One turn in particular you did was to go for Toxic against Zapdos, which you already knew his Chansey had Heal Bell, thus leaving you open to his Dugtrio. I'd say, it'd be much safer to go for Lava Plume. Better in that regard because for one, even if he stayed in, he still ran the risk of a burn and you could maybe predict an incoming switch or a roost from there. Or maybe try to burn an incoming pokemon. Either or.

Well, that's how I see it; maybe someone else thinks the same way, but, yeah, happy to be some of assistance!

2Fruit December 19th, 2015 8:02 AM

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-306834834

Was doing so well until the very end. What do you guys think I should have switched in on his Latios?

Dragon December 19th, 2015 8:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Fruit (Post 9041200)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-306834834

Was doing so well until the very end. What do you guys think I should have switched in on his Latios?

Scizor from the get-go was your best bet, because judging from his team, he didn't really need HP Fire on his Latias since he had a Charizard and what I assume to be a Serperior having HP Fire (because otherwise, why would it need ground when he has Azumarill and Lando for Heatran, or rock for Charizard-Y when he has a Latias for a check? Seems redundant to me).

Anyway, yeah, I guess you were sorta tilting towards the end there and not doing the best of options (ie, you could of just finished off his Azumarill, and you didn't need to keep U-turning with Scizor when you could of just Bullet Punched for a guaranteed KO or 2HKO on something coming in). I'd say just take your time next time. Especially during mid-game which is where you start to figure out your opponent's play style. Remember to weigh in risk vs. reward, and you'll do fine next time!

KorpiklaaniVodka December 19th, 2015 9:02 AM

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-ou-200219

made a **** team (w/ druddigon lol) vs dark azelf, probably won with luck but w/e

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-ou-197754

another match vs elf

Dragon December 19th, 2015 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KorpiklaaniVodka (Post 9041260)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-ou-200219

made a **** team (w/ druddigon lol) vs dark azelf, probably won with luck but w/e

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-ou-197754

another match vs elf

Not much to say about both matches, I mean... both of you played good, and I believe you said your Infernape had Mach bunch so, the burn on Dugtrio didn't matter too much? But yeah.

PS. Mega Pidgeot has No Guard, so. Don't worry about missing Hurricanes.

KorpiklaaniVodka December 30th, 2015 4:18 AM

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-311262817


wanted to try hail in OU, not as bad as i expected lol.

Nah December 30th, 2015 5:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KorpiklaaniVodka (Post 9055771)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-311262817


wanted to try hail in OU, not as bad as i expected lol.

You got lucky that Pin Missile fired enough times to kill Mega Sableye, but other than that I think you did fine. If anything you should've seen the Talonflame switch out to Suicune on turn 12, and idk why you used Surf on turn 21, but that's kinda minor.

WingedDragon December 30th, 2015 6:38 PM

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2016-309948378

I almost made a full comeback on this but Id like to know how I couldve played this better.

gimmepie January 14th, 2016 1:07 AM

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-ou-203030

Anti murdering me for anyone else who wants to chime in xD

Bidoof FTW January 14th, 2016 4:52 AM

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-ou-202801
Loss against R.F.

I feel like I could've won this battle if I had played a bit differently, don't want to make the same mistakes anymore :/

Megan January 14th, 2016 5:33 AM

Can I get a little bit of input on that battle as well? Because I know I made a ton of stupid plays.

KorpiklaaniVodka January 22nd, 2016 6:42 AM

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/po...nity-ou-204298

beat zek in the tourney. p sure i could have made better plays

Nah January 22nd, 2016 6:55 AM

^Really I should be the one asking what I could've done better there

Sopheria January 23rd, 2016 2:54 PM

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-ou-204568

This was really bad. I know I was walled by that Cresselia, but once I realized I was walled I sorta flailed around in search of the best course of action, and I may have made a few poor decisions as a result. Also, there might be some other factors that walled me, Cresselia being the most obvious, but was there more to it than that...?

Dragon January 23rd, 2016 3:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sopheria (Post 9088666)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-ou-204568

This was really bad. I know I was walled by that Cresselia, but once I realized I was walled I sorta flailed around in search of the best course of action, and I may have made a few poor decisions as a result. Also, there might be some other factors that walled me, Cresselia being the most obvious, but was there more to it than that...?

I told you this in PS, but, you should give Azumarill Knock Off instead of Superpower! It would of given you better answers in that match. I was trying to play Cresselia more conservatively that match because I needed a good answer for Lopunny ever sine Cofigagrus was taken down, so, I didn't really wanted you to take it down that easily.

Other than that, not much to say.. I guess it was more of a matter of me catching you by surprise by those uncommon pokemon in OU. c:

FennekMaster January 25th, 2016 8:02 PM

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-322306731

So, I was unsure about how good or bad I am at the game and according to this game I am VERY BAD. This is really starting to piss me off and even makes me question if competitive pokemon is even my thing. I end up rage quitung in the end cause his last pokemon survived on 1HP. I don't know if I suck, my team sucks, I got haxed , all of the above or what. Btw I am the person with the sableye cause I really wanted to use Specially Defensive Talonflame.

gimmepie January 26th, 2016 5:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FennekMaster (Post 9091692)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-322306731

So, I was unsure about how good or bad I am at the game and according to this game I am VERY BAD. This is really starting to piss me off and even makes me question if competitive pokemon is even my thing. I end up rage quitung in the end cause his last pokemon survived on 1HP. I don't know if I suck, my team sucks, I got haxed , all of the above or what. Btw I am the person with the sableye cause I really wanted to use Specially Defensive Talonflame.

Straight up I noticed that you missed an obvious upcoming switch and ended up Giga Draining a Latias. A much better move would have been to have used Spore first. If your opponent for some reason didn't switch the Azumarill, then it'd become cannon fodder, but by using spore you still cripple whatever your opponent switches to (unless it's a grass type, but you were 100% safe there).

Second thing I saw, you should have switched to Hippowdon instead of sacking your Starmie. It resists everything Magnezone is most likely to throw at you (even being immune to electricity so it can't pull a Volt Switch on you and mess you up) and then either takes Magnezone out fairly easily or forces a switch.

Once you lost Amoongus you were always going to have issues with Azumarill since half your team was hit super-effectively by it and the only other pokemon you have that resists it doesn't have great defence. Generally speaking though, you didn't do that badly and probably shouldn't get so upset. You'll get better with practice.


Anyway, my turn.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-ou-204906

I actually ended up winning the game, but I'd still like to improve further. One thing I'm definitely wondering is if I could have done something better to deal with Thundurus since I ended up having to just let it kill whatever I needed the least until its Life Orb did most of the work.

Sopheria February 4th, 2016 3:54 AM

Bleh, any thoughts on this one? I feel like our teams were pretty well matched in terms of counters/checks, but maybe not? Feels like this could have gone much better haha.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-326308479

Warning: turn 3 through 12 is nothing but Jirachi Iron Head spammage :P

Sirfetch’d February 4th, 2016 5:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sopheria (Post 9103800)
Bleh, any thoughts on this one? I feel like our teams were pretty well matched in terms of counters/checks, but maybe not? Feels like this could have gone much better haha.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-326308479

Warning: turn 3 through 12 is nothing but Jirachi Iron Head spammage :P

I kinda watched your match really fast because I don't have much time but from what I saw, you played about as well as you could have really. The Azumarill was a pretty good matchup vs their entire team. However, I think the lack of hazard control was a big issue here. You have two choice locked mons(I assume Jirachi is choiced?) unless I missed Rachi carrying leftovers, two U-turn, Volt Switch users, and a Lopunny that is easily forced out. With this type of team you are going to be switching a lot so the hazard damage can begin to pile on. I'd look into putting a good Defogger or Rapid Spinner somewhere on this team if I were you just to help with the unavoidable hazard damage a team like this will be taking a beating from. Aside from that, maybe re-EV your Jirachi? Iirc a Landorus not running Scarf outsped it and if you are using offensive Jirachi I would make sure that it's EV'd to outspeed a Landorus.


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