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Hiatus December 11th, 2015 12:09 AM

Seasons
 
In generation five, GameFreak had introduced to us a new feature, which changes climate (as well as Pokémon that appear in the wild) depending on our device time and date.

What are our overall thoughts on this system? If we have any, which season would we call our most favorite?

Hikamaru December 11th, 2015 7:16 AM

Thanks Ben for moving, because I knew this would mainly be a 5th Gen topic.

But that said, I actually loved this feature since it added a bit of realism to the Pokemon universe and the changes in the environment allowed for Pokemon encounter changes, as well as some other small events as well and even getting to certain places. I was sad this feature never returned in 6th Gen, but I do hope 7th Gen can bring it back.

FireSnow December 11th, 2015 8:04 AM

I agree with Hika, it was very cool and did make Pokemon more real. It also allowed for more of a challenge in getting certain Pokemon which is always more fun. My favorite season would have to be winter. I liked the overall design the season had and the design of Sawsbuck was pretty cool during this season more than the others.

Stokesma December 12th, 2015 10:50 AM

I really like the seasons feature. It was a natural progression from the day and night system.
It gave the Generation 5 games a bit more of realism with the changes in the environment and in the appearance of certain Pokemon.
My favorite would have to be winter since it caused the most drastic change in the oversnow and of course because of snow.

GiovanniViridian December 13th, 2015 9:56 AM

Loved that feature, and the Deerling changes for each season makes it a nice touch.

Hikamaru February 8th, 2016 6:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stokesma (Post 9032256)
My favorite would have to be winter since it caused the most drastic change in the oversnow and of course because of snow.

Winter is definitely the most unique season in the game, because it can actually change the areas you can reach, such as most parts of Twist Mountain. It also had the most unique-looking Sawsbuck form, with all that beautiful white fur on it and also the white antlers captured the look well. Winter Sawsbuck really knew how to have awesome fashion sense hahahaha

Otamajakushi February 8th, 2016 7:14 PM

I really, really liked the seasons. I enjoyed how they changed frequently and gave each part of the region a new look and feel. I hope they do seasons again in the future.

Oddball_ February 9th, 2016 12:37 AM

I liked the seasons system, although I didn't quite like how it wasn't tied with the real life calendar. Yet again I also wouldn't have wanted to have to wait 9 months to get the items in frost mountain if I missed them during the winter, so I suppose they had to find a happy medium... but yeah, I'd be happy for this system to make a return someday and hopefully not just in the Unova region.

Mawa February 9th, 2016 10:55 AM

I loved this system and I don't understand why they didn't kept this...

The fact that Sawsbuck can change form, and that we can reach new regions...

i loved the fifth generation and that might have play a big part.
It's.. unusual. This generation is different than the others.

Ozymandias February 10th, 2016 12:36 PM

Yeah I do quite enjoy watching the seasons go by :D
And the fact that my favorite Gen 5 Poke (Sawsbuck) switches forms with the seasons makes me like it that much more

Dedenne1 February 10th, 2016 12:51 PM

i loved the season system it opened up so many new things like what items are obtainable in the winter or the summer what form of deerling you have what pokemon are available and i thought it gave more depth to the game like as you were playing time passed in the poke universe i just really really liked it haha

Caite-chan February 11th, 2016 4:37 PM

I loved this and I really miss it in the newer games. I really wish they would have carried this over and kept it going. I loved how Deerling and Sawsbuck would change forms depending on what season it was.

Rivvon March 4th, 2016 3:34 PM

Seasons were really nice; they added a natural dynamism to the region of Unova. The idea behind seasons was that if you were to set your game aside for whatever reason and then on a whim decide to pick it back up a month or so later, it would seem completely different and that would encourage you to explore once again--I think that certainly worked. The only negative aspect I saw was that some events were tied to the changing of the seasons: the two biggest ones I remember were in B2W2, where you could challenge N only once per season, along with the Shadow Triad. The Shadow Triad, I felt, could have been challenged more frequently, whereas it made sense for N's to be seasonal because of his weather teams. In cases like that, along with the fact that some Pokémon are much harder, if not impossible, to obtain during certain seasons, makes me think that perhaps if the feature were to return it would be a bit more successful if the seasons passed more frequently--perhaps every two weeks rather than four?

Hikamaru March 15th, 2016 4:43 AM

N having a different team during each season for his rematches was a clever concept, especially with the type theme present in each team, like how the Winter team is Ice-types, Autumn is Rock and Ground, Summer is Grass and Fire, and Spring is mainly Water-types.

Bellsprout March 20th, 2016 10:00 AM

didn't care for this feature. mainly because you couldn't get to certain areas depending on the season and i found that super annoying. i don't want to have to keep changing the date or whatever just so i can thoroughly complete the game.

don't get me wrong i love snowy areas and i also love hot summer areas, but i rather have the region be varied in set areas where they stay snowy/hot all the time. or better yet i rather just have a whole region dedicated to one temperature. hoenn was that tropical hot region, i liked the theme... sinnoh kind of half assed being a cold region. i'd rather see an entirely snowy cold region, there's so much you could do with it!

so i guess unova was trying to be the best of both worlds in making it a seasonal region. i appreciate the idea, but i was not a fan.

Hikamaru March 21st, 2016 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Moon (Post 9171453)
I don't understand why seasons weren't kept. They were an awesome feature that added another level of realism to the games, and offered us some changing environments, access to areas we couldn't get to in other seasons and the most pleasing of all - themes that change to fit the atmosphere and feel of a season.

I agree, the seasons gave this generation a realistic feel and while it changed every month instead of the real world seasons changing every three months, I can understand why they did it this way, because they likely wanted each season in-game to happen three times a year and keeping it to one season for too long would make you have to wait ages for certain season-exclusive in-game events.

ジュナイパー March 22nd, 2016 5:01 AM

I thought seasons were a really cool implement to Pokemon. I loved how they affected where you can go and what items you could obtain. Plus, Twist Mountains looks pretty cool in the winter!

COOLTRAINER♂ March 22nd, 2016 6:09 AM

Not a very good gimmick. Pokemon isn't a simulation game and the player doesn't have much reason to keep going on most of thr routes in the game (especially when you get Fly) so you're spending more time making different graphics and music for each place rather than just sticking to one style and crafting that well. Seasonal-dependant items or events were uncommon, and they were frustrating when they did happen because you would need to wait weeks or even months to get at it.

Sydian March 22nd, 2016 10:48 AM

^ You can change the time on your DS though, so it's not like it was a huge hassle.

Anyway, I rather liked this! It even affected the music. It might be the tiniest little chord change or a different instrument used, but it's really nice. :) Unova in spring and autumn look absolutely wonderful. I remember playing HGSS and Ecruteak had that nice autumn feeling and I would think how cool it would be to see the whole region like that, and BW delivered that idea. Very nice touch.

COOLTRAINER♂ March 22nd, 2016 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ludger (Post 9174918)
^ You can change the time on your DS though, so it's not like it was a huge hassle.

The game punishes you for changing time, that's clearly not an intended way to play the game.

Astinus March 22nd, 2016 3:07 PM

Most things that are affected by the clock changing can be reset if the DS's clock is left alone for 24 hours. What you really ruin is Black City and White Forest. (At least, that's all I could find for an answer to that from searching online and checking the game's manual.)

With the seasons, I wasn't really bothered by them changing. If there was something that I wanted to get that was only available in a particular season, I learned to live without it.

I did like that they made the Unova region feel a little more alive. Having the seasons change showed how nature affected people and Pokemon, which I thought was a nice touch for the story. So I'm glad that they were around only for these games.

walnut3072 March 29th, 2016 6:02 AM

I love seeing every single area in the game changes their appearance in each season. Hope they'd bring this feature back in PKM Sun&Moon.

Captain Gizmo April 3rd, 2016 9:30 PM

This was a great feature, and even Deerling made this change relevant! It was a great new way to capture Pokemon.

My favorite season would be winter. Just because my girlfriend bought it for me for Christmas 2 years ago and when I started to play it, it was set for the winter season =)

llysender April 4th, 2016 5:23 AM

Personally my fav season is spring because of how nice the colours are. What I find strange is why they didn't impliment more wether effects for the seasons. Depending on the area tailwind(or hail)/sun for spring, rain/sun for summer, rain/fog(or tailwind) for autumn and hail/fog for winter.

Also swarms should have been changed to migrating seasonal pokemon that all appear at different parts of the map and change location every few days. That way you still have to search for the swarm but you can get all seasonal pokemon in 1 day if you search hard enough.

tokyodrift April 4th, 2016 8:10 AM

I always thought the Seasons feature was pretty nifty. Deerling/Sawsbuck made this addition even more relevant, although I never used one. I think making it so specific items and Pokemon can only be found a specific time of year made it all the more exciting for it to actually change seasons in the game. The changing seasons gave the game a feeling of realism. Though I did wish it coincided with the actual calendar the game was purchased.


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