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Salzorrah December 25th, 2015 6:18 AM

not sure if a chameleon, a hooker, or just indecisive...
 
What is your general opinion on the mechanic of alignment conversion?

Have you ever gotten converted to mafia, a cultist, an inno before? What were some memorable instances when you got them? When you got converted, did you win with your new faction, or did you lose? Have you ever been in every faction in one single game before?

Mana December 25th, 2015 6:22 AM

Information-wise it can get a little messy if there are lots of conversions XD but they're fun!!

Blarz 1 had myself and Naku both trying to recruit Christos which led to some scuffle XD thanks to that Christos was doomed to death soon after. :(

KetsuekiR December 25th, 2015 7:47 AM

Blarz 2 saw me being absorbed by FathR and turned into part of the hivemind xD Other than that, I haven't really been converted yet!

Bidoof FTW December 25th, 2015 12:32 PM

I enjoy it. I was recruited in MCM, GAU, TtA, and Grandmafia. It's a lot easier when you're inno and converted because no one really notices that you change alignments, when you're mafia you leave the chat and basically issue a death sentence upon yourself.

I've won once as a cult, an even if it doesn't win often, I hope cults/conversions stick around.

Ullion December 25th, 2015 5:04 PM

I like the concept of recruitments. But I think anymore than one recruiter in a single game is overboard, as a personal opinion. Like Doof said, if you're in a private skype group with other members and get immediately removed - you know you're a dead man. Now imagine that happening with 3-4x the amount of recruiters? Another issue I think having too many recruiters brings up is the fact that if the person isn't a deadman, then (s)he could easily out everyone they knew who belonged to their previous alignment - and could potentially change the entire course of a game and essentially ruin it for their former teammates.

Like I said - I think 1 is good, but anymore makes things worse, from my experience and opinion. :d

Juno December 26th, 2015 11:54 AM

I'm usually glad when I'm culted or recruited because I'm awful at being inno and it's a lot more fun when there's someone you can talk freely to. It's nice to be able to trust someone and to be sure of something - I know that's not always the case even within group chats as there have been double-agents/spies and all that (THANKS SPOODERGIRL), but just in general I'm a lot less guarded in group chats about what I say compared to threads. :P

I was recruited in Blarz I (cult) and II (mafia), TtA (cult), Grandmafia (cult) and F&L (ambassador), and I won in 3 of those, if the F&L one counts, lol.

Bidoof FTW December 26th, 2015 3:44 PM

How to win games: recruit Juno

Foxrally December 26th, 2015 11:28 PM

Being the converter in Blarz 2 was way more fun than being converted >:D

And let's be honest you guys all converted to Blarzigordism after the games

gimmepie December 27th, 2015 5:30 AM

I love the element of confusion and chaos recruiter roles can bring to games, which I'm guessing you've probably noticed looking at my games - hell even Hinamizawa has a recruiting mechanic and there's no recruiter role. Recruiters are definitely one of my favourite roles and I don't mind having several in a game but I can definitely see why others don't like it.

As a GM, having multiple recruiters can be a challenge - just look at the Christos incident in Blarz 1. If you're willing to put the work in and can use a bit of old fashioned logic, it's far from impossible to have a game with lots of recruiters work smoothly.

Nagi January 5th, 2016 10:07 AM

personally i dislike recruiters mostly, and if a game has more than one recruiter i will generally instantly be deterred from it. i feel mafia is as much about finding clues as it is about reading people, and if three people get converted every night, all that ensues is chaos. maybe i'm just bad at mafia, but how are we supposed to keep track? then there's the salt issues that were mentioned before - if you get recruited out of mafia, you're a dead man. i should know, i was instakilled on day one in Gotham for being recruited. yay.

mafia recruiters especially are horribly OP, and can only be countered by having a village recruiter. so imo, a balanced game should only have one recruiter, and have that be a cult. or something like GP did in Hinamizawa, that was well done i think.

Nakuzami January 6th, 2016 12:42 PM

Personally I like recruiters

They're amusing~

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimmepie (Post 9051624)
As a GM, having multiple recruiters can be a challenge - just look at the Christos incident in Blarz 1.

you mean how I actually had priority over Mana's recruitment

and

you accidentally added Christos to the wrong chat and had to live with that mistake?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrally (Post 9051428)
Being the converter in Blarz 2 was way more fun than being converted >:D

And let's be honest you guys all converted to Blarzigordism after the games

And lbh

only one of us is the true, skilled Converter of Blarzigord

and it's not you

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nagi (Post 9064240)
if you get recruited out of mafia, you're a dead man. i should know, i was instakilled on day one in Gotham for being recruited. yay.

On the other hand

you weren't mafia as Harley Quin, you were "innocent." You just happened to be the only innocent role that another "innocent" had knowledge of from that start. So that was just bad luck on your part, lol.

Mana January 6th, 2016 12:50 PM

Christos belonged with me <3

Salzorrah January 6th, 2016 3:11 PM

Christos just loves Mana more than he fears Naku :P


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