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Majestic Milotics II
Hey there Milotics, this is our official clan HQ! Before we get into it, please fill out this form, just to get an idea about your strengths and weaknesses:
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Do any of your details need changing in the below member list? Nope.
Do you play any formats besides OU? I am most confident in NU, I also play Ubers. Do you have any goals for this season? (things to improve upon) To actually figure my way around OU, I'd really like to become a better OU player so I can keep up with everyone else!! |
Do any of your details need changing in the below member list? nope
Do you play any formats besides OU? I do UU and Monotype every now and then Do you have any goals for this season? (things to improve upon) Not making stupid plays, taking a step back and not feeling like I have to rush through battles since that's where most of my mistakes are made. also need to work on not making teams with shitty sets. |
Do any of your details need changing in the below member list? My PS username is Sandwich King.
Do you play any formats besides OU? Not yet, but I'm working on it. Do you have any goals for this season? Get better. That's all. |
i am a rokie so i am working in it
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sup majestic milotics, y'all are up for botw so i posted some stuff in this post about it. check it out and good luck!
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Do any of your details need changing in the below member list? Nope
Do you play any formats besides OU? Monotype somewhat often and I'm thinking of trying Ubers. Do you have any goals for this season? Winning more often? xD |
for the teambuilding competition we should make a team based around a special attacking blissey
I think it'd be fun to build a team around mega houndoom, Milotic or mega swampert. |
How about a rain team then?
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I had a mega swampert rain team that got quite a lot of wins last PCL and in tours on smogon, but overall rain can be kinda eh, some matchups make it impossible to win with it and there isn't really that much variation you can have with them. Mega houndoom sounds cooler imo, or even something like mega aerodactyl.
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Mega-houndoom is too loaded with weaknesses, at least mega-aerodactyl has a ground immunity. So if we're picking an interesting mega as our centrepiece I'd rather not use houndoom.
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If not m-swampert then what about a m-gallade instead?
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Mega-Gallade's been pretty potent in my rather limited experiences with it.
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I dunno, I'm actually a pretty big fan of mega houndoom in OU, great speed tier and power, plus it switches in for free on stuff like mega sableye and really punishes those fat bulky teams. In terms of typing, the dark and ghost resist is quite rare tbh and really nice to have. In comparison, I find mega gallade kind of lacklustre, it struggles with the common defensive mons in the tier and has pretty bad 4mss, lando-t and slowbro are so common and it only has 1 slot for either knock off or ice punch (even with knock off you're not beating mega bro anyway). Of course, sableye hard walls it no matter what too. That's just my opinion though, if every else is on board with mega gallade we can still go with that I guess.
On another note, do we have to keep this team discussion on this thread? I feel like doing this on skype or anything with an instant message/live chat kinda thing would be way better, it's difficult to get a proper teambuilding discussion going on a forum. |
I'd be up for taking it to Skype if the others would prefer to do so. Anyway you raise good points as far as Mega-Gallade. Mega-Houndoom still doesn't do it for me though, Ground and Fighting practically run the meta and both are widespread as coverage moves.
Houndoom might get Solarbeam and Thunder Fang for dealing with water-types at least but without either dedicating a slot to Sunny Day or running Ninetales Solarbeam is just handing a free switch to your opponent whilst it bulky water-types will swallow T-Fang easily due to Houndoom's lacklustre physical attack. Basically, Houndoom has all the same problems as Gallade. As far as fire-types go Heatran and the Zards and probably even Infernape and Moltres would be better options. On that note, I'd like to propose Charizard-Y as a potential option. Everyone always expects X, so it would be an interesting way to catch the opponent off-guard. Plus it has drought/solarbeam built in and an immunity to those pesky ground types. Stealth Rock poses something of an issue there though so we'd need good support. |
so if we went with houndoom we'd be running a weavile and t-flame, maybe solarbeam heatran and then have to use two pokemon able to sunny day to make it worth our while. so if heatran was using sday then it would be something like sbeam, sday, magma storm, rocks with a power herb or balloon. then we'd use something else that can sday like clefable, klefki or maybe even serperior.
and then there's zard y |
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What about Zard Y? lol |
its zard y.
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Don't think we're on the same page here, I'm talking about nasty plot/fire blast/dark pulse houndoom with sludge bomb, taunt or wisp in the last slot. Just because it gets solar power as an ability doesn't mean you need to be running a sunny day set.
zard y is always a nice balance breaker. |
No you don't have to, but you should or else you're not really using the mon to its fullest potential. We could just do Zard y though I guess. I'd still like to get the other members' inputs too
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I do love Zard-Y as it's a fantastic wallbreaker, though in turn, I find Mega-houndoom kinda.. tough to build around.
If I had to choose one it'd be the former, I suppose, unless you guys have very nice team ideas for one. |
Houndoom @ Houndoominite
Ability: Flash Fire - Nasty Plot - Fire Blast - Dark Pulse - Sludge Bomb Heatran @ Power Herb Ability: Flash Fire - Stealth Rock - Solar Beam - Magma Storm - Sunny Day Talonflame @ Choice Band Ability: Flame Body - Brave Bird - Flare Blitz - U-turn - Tailwind Weavile @ Life Orb Ability: Pressure - Knock Off - Icicle Crash - Ice Shard - Poison Jab Landorus-Therian @ Choice Scarf Ability: Intimidate - Earthquake - Stone Edge - Explosion - U-turn or Garchomp @ Salac Berry Ability: Rough Skin - Sunny Day - Earthquake - Dragon Tail - Toxic if we ran garchomp we could remove heatran (put rocks on it) and put another more useful mon in there like rotom and then still use lati for defog. other than that i think(?) everything is covered and can be beaten if played right. idk. |
If we do that though Starmie, Keldeo and Landorus will rip through us.
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Rotom w deals with all 3. Tflame takes care of keldeo. Then weavile and rotom take care of lado.
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I worry though that we're playing the "nothing can faint" game with that team. It looks to me that the minute a single pokemon faints its game over.
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Theres a difference between abilities. And with the team I'm thinking of, garchomp would be the only one using sunny day and it would be pretty much the last thing it did. If it gets it off then great if not then like you said, Houndoom is still a pretty decent mon. Just like if talonflame can get off a tailwind before it died that'd be great, but if not Houndoom is still pretty good. And so long as you don't play haphazardly you shouldn't be worried about losing the game with the death of one mon. Houndoom, garchomp, tflame, rotom-w, weavile and starmie or lati shouldn't be scary or leave a lot of room for worry. But anyways, let's see some more options.
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So, since this is just a team building thing and not a battle I don't feel so terrible for suggesting this lol. What about a team with an emphasis on shutting down the opponents momentum and sweepers or that can whittle stall down?
I was just randomly talking with Sopheria and a team like this ended up popping up Jirachi | Togekiss | Thundurus | Heatran | Latios | M-Gyarados Edit: I ended up making it lol, thoughts? Spoiler:
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I'm in the middle of testing the team i mentioned. I've done about 15 battles and have lost 4 of them due to rng mostly. One time I got destroyed by sand rush team but that's the only thing that's been a big deal. I'm going to try and change up m-hound's stats and see if it fares better another way and then post up some replays to get a feel for it in action. It does lack a fighting type at the moment which I do need to fix.
edit: heres the 'final' team Houndoom @ Houndoominite Ability: Flash Fire EVs: 40 HP / 8 Def / 208 SpA / 252 Spe Timid Nature - Nasty Plot - Fire Blast - Dark Pulse - Sludge Bomb Talonflame @ Choice Band Ability: Gale Wings EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe Adamant Nature - Brave Bird - Flare Blitz - U-turn - Tailwind Weavile @ Life Orb Ability: Pressure EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Jolly Nature - Knock Off - Icicle Crash - Ice Shard - Poison Jab Garchomp @ Salac Berry Ability: Rough Skin EVs: 12 HP / 244 Atk / 252 Spe Jolly Nature - Stealth Rock - Earthquake - Dragon Tail - Toxic Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers Ability: Levitate EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spe Bold Nature - Volt Switch - Hydro Pump - Will-O-Wisp - Pain Split Scizor @ Leftovers Ability: Technician EVs: 248 HP / 60 Def / 200 SpD Impish Nature - Defog - Superpower - Bullet Punch - U-turn switched out latias for Scizor and got a little higher. I've used tailwind twice, both times against a landorus. very helpful. im not the best at battling, but i got up around to 1500 last night before i fell asleep. the team works, you just have to play it right. the loss of lati on the team means that weavile and talonflame dont have as many opportunities to tear through or wear things down. but it gives a fighting type move which was much needed on the team. im also missing a grass type move but theres not much i can do about that without changing a whole lot about the team. hp grass on houndoom is quite ineffective. you might try it out and see what you can do and what you can change about it to make it better. its a good team regardless, this is further than ive made it with most of my other teams anyways. a few stupid things that came up as problematic are the fact that everyone loves choice scarf. and then the random mono ghost team has outplayed me a couple of times. other than that ive not really had a problem. i just had to play a little smarter than i usually do to get anywhere. its definitely not a team that you can just throw something out without giving it any thought. weavile and tflame do their job of tearing through a lot of things while everything else wears it down, and then mhoundoom comes out on the random zard y or other sunny day user and pays his dues. to really take anything out with it though you have to use a tailwind since theres a lot it cant outspeed, and then nasty plot once or twice. i really am not a fan of rotom, so if theres anything that could fill its place better then id be all for that. but its not doing the worst of jobs right now. and garchomp needs a different item since it gets outsped by almost everything ive sent it in on anyways. |
If you're determined to use that team (and having battled against it, it is quite good) I would suggest maybe just going straight for your typical bulky helmet Garchomp? I think keeping Rotom is a good thing though, it's another pokemon that can easily come in on an EQ or T-Wave and then shut down the offender with will-o-wisp or force the switch.
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So, what's happening with this team building thing and whatnot?
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Well since nobody has really said anything otherwise, I guess we'll just run with that team? There are a few days left if anyone wants to throw up something else but we've been dead for a while so.
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I'm pretty happy with that team.
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Do any of your details need changing in the below member list? I'm ddrox13 on here and the Battle Server (and on Skype if that is relevant), and my timezone is UTC-4 due to Daylight Savings being in effect. Do you play any formats besides OU? I certainly can play UU, Monotype, VGC, and BH, but can learn anything not named Ubers pretty quick. Screw Ubers. Do you have any goals for this season? Stop sucking, learn how to beat Talonflame and M-Sabelye, etc. Sadly, this couldn't have come at a more inconvenient time, as I'll have to take a LoA from Wednesday-Sunday next week due to vacation. I'll still check the forum on my phone, but I won't be on the battle server. That team looks really cool. |
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PS. Slowbrow walls the living shit out of Talon and M-Sableye dies to fairies. |
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