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Sopheria January 15th, 2016 6:14 PM

Features from X&Y you wish were in OR/AS?
 
There were a lot of features introduced in X&Y that were absent from OR/AS. Some of it was due to it being a remake of a game that was made before those features existed, some of it was due to the fact that certain features are unique to the Kalos region (like the Holo Caster, which was invented in Kalos). Either way, we probably all have things we wish had been included in OR/AS. What about you, which features do you wish they had brought back into OR/AS?

For me, it's definitely trainer customization. I really miss having a uniquely designed character. Especially during Wi-Fi battles, where it's sometimes May vs. May or Brendan vs. Brendan o.o

Guest123_x1 January 15th, 2016 6:47 PM

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For me, it's definitely trainer customization. I really miss having a uniquely designed character.
I second this. I thought they would find a way to integrate customization into OR/AS, even if it were to be in a different or more limited form than what X/Y had. If GameFreak was able to carry over Pokémon-Amie to OR/AS, then they certainly could have carried over trainer customization as well.

Linay January 15th, 2016 7:01 PM

Trainer Customization absolutely! I really miss it >.< I liked getting new outfits and cute hair for my avatar.
Roller skating was fun too!

fenyx4 January 15th, 2016 7:02 PM

Apparently, the "XY to ORAS" changes are here - http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Generation_VI#Alterations_from_Pok.C3.A9mon_X_and_Y

Off the top of my head:

Pokémon Trainer customization, for sure! Not sure about any other major omitted features..although Pokémon Trainer PR videos, natural objects, and Sky Battles should all have been retained. I dislike limiting "features" to a region/set of games unless absolutely necessary.. Particularly with customization..non-French people play dress up too, you know, Game Freak.. -.- Additionally, I don't buy the excuse of "letting Brendan and May retain their original/unique/distinctive looks from Generation 3", as arguably their outfits have been altered noticeably/substantially in Generation 6, and they even don entirely different outfits for Pokémon Contests (-Spectaculars)! Hopefully, the feature returns in full force for Pokémon Z (if it will exist) and Generation 7 and beyond. I mean, if Game Freak wants regions to have their own "identity" apart from other regions, then the regions can do that with the regional geography and (most) of the Pokemon Trainers that the region in question contains (after all, each region can't contain the exact same people and places - primarily due to plotline and variety purposes).

Oh, and the XY Berry mechanics should have been retained! (if they were good, that is) Also, I think there was an issue with the ORAS Berry Trees having a discrepancy with different Berry coloration and/or Berry number/count in contrast with the XY Berry Trees...? Something about the unique Berry Tree sprites or something about Berry Tree not accurately reflecting the Berry number..? ~_~

The XY Friend Safari mechanic should have also returned, although in a non-online dependent manner (or at least a manner where you can still reap all of the benefits if you don't have other players to connect to). And a Hoenn-style Battle Chateau should have returned from XY as well!

Slash_Dog January 15th, 2016 8:36 PM

I really miss trainer customization, friend safaris and battle frontier from emerald. I hope ¿"Pokemon Z"? improve trainer customization.

ddrox13 January 15th, 2016 9:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fenyx4 (Post 9077938)
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Oh, and the XY Berry mechanics should have been retained! (if they were good, that is) Also, I think there was an issue with the ORAS Berry Trees having a discrepancy with different Berry coloration and/or Berry number/count in contrast with the XY Berry Trees...? Something about the unique Berry Tree sprites or something about Berry Tree not accurately reflecting the Berry number..? ~_~

The XY Friend Safari mechanic should have also returned, although in a non-online dependent manner (or at least a manner where you can still reap all of the benefits if you don't have other players to connect to). And a Hoenn-style Battle Chateau should have returned from XY as well!

Ewwww, I hated the XY berry mechanics. I just want my damn berries for meh Pokeblokz. Or something like that.

I think we needed a stinking Battle Frontier, possibly with a Friend Safari thrown onto it (leaving the standard one).

And like everyone else said, I want my Black Trench Coat Dress back.

Starry Windy January 15th, 2016 11:40 PM

I would agree with most of the users here and say that I wanted Trainer Customization back as well, because that's what makes every Trainers unique in a way.

Qibli January 15th, 2016 11:51 PM

Trainer customization is a MUST for Brendon and May their look just so plain while as PC aside contest looks is only for contest and it's shame though. Safari needs to be replaced with Friend Safari

Nah January 16th, 2016 6:24 AM

Trainer Customization

which has been said a million times already

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Originally Posted by ddrox13 (Post 9078129)
And like everyone else said, I want my Black Trench Coat Dress back.

That is my favorite thing to wear in XY too :)

Sopheria January 16th, 2016 7:45 AM

I know they wanted to keep the original designs of the characters (even though they didn't keep the original designs), but really, if we could dress up a Pikachu, why can't we dress up the main character? They could have at least let us change the color scheme of their outfits--for example, making May's shirt and bandana purple instead of red.

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Originally Posted by ddrox13 (Post 9078129)
Ewwww, I hated the XY berry mechanics. I just want my damn berries for meh Pokeblokz. Or something like that.

I think we needed a stinking Battle Frontier, possibly with a Friend Safari thrown onto it (leaving the standard one).

And like everyone else said, I want my Black Trench Coat Dress back.

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Originally Posted by fenyx4 (Post 9077938)
Oh, and the XY Berry mechanics should have been retained! (if they were good, that is) Also, I think there was an issue with the ORAS Berry Trees having a discrepancy with different Berry coloration and/or Berry number/count in contrast with the XY Berry Trees...? Something about the unique Berry Tree sprites or something about Berry Tree not accurately reflecting the Berry number..? ~_~

What were the differences between the the XY Berry mechanics and the OR/AS ones again? I haven't done a whole lot with berries in either game, so I'm not familiar with that whole discrepancy issue. I remember there was the one garden in X&Y where you had to go in order to plant berries, but I'm can't remember if there was anything special to the mechanics that was unique to X&Y.

Desert Stream~ January 16th, 2016 9:49 AM

I think trainer customization for brenden/may would look weird

ddrox13 January 16th, 2016 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sopheria (Post 9078607)
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What were the differences between the the XY Berry mechanics and the OR/AS ones again? I haven't done a whole lot with berries in either game, so I'm not familiar with that whole discrepancy issue. I remember there was the one garden in X&Y where you had to go in order to plant berries, but I'm can't remember if there was anything special to the mechanics that was unique to X&Y.

It was obtaining the berries in the first place. In XY, they were in trees well hidden around Kalos. In ORAS, it was finding berry trees around everywhere.

Sopheria January 16th, 2016 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ddrox13 (Post 9078796)
It was obtaining the berries in the first place. In XY, they were in trees well hidden around Kalos. In ORAS, it was finding berry trees around everywhere.

Oh yea now I remember haha. I sorta like the OR/AS berry system better then, because there's such a wide variety of berries you can find in it. I did like having the berry garden in X&Y, since you only have to go to one place to check on all of your berries, but we get that with the Berry Master's house on Route 123, so it still works out fine haha

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Originally Posted by MUDKIP!!! (Post 9078730)
I think trainer customization for brenden/may would look weird

Really? Any reason you feel like it'd look weird? They're people too after all, they can change clothes like anyone else :P

Also, I've said this before, but I wish they had implemented the soaring encounters as Sky Battles, and maybe had some Sky Trainer encounters integrated into soaring as well. I don't think Sky Battles even made an appearance at all in OR/AS (unless I just missed it?), which is a shame because it's an idea that has a lot of potential, and I'd hate to see them just scrap it altogether.

Hikamaru January 16th, 2016 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sopheria (Post 9078797)
Also, I've said this before, but I wish they had implemented the soaring encounters as Sky Battles, and maybe had some Sky Trainer encounters integrated into soaring as well. I don't think Sky Battles even made an appearance at all in OR/AS (unless I just missed it?), which is a shame because it's an idea that has a lot of potential, and I'd hate to see them just scrap it altogether.

There were literally no Sky Battles in OR/AS, and you could tell because some of the soaring encounters were Pokemon like Murkrow and Taillow, whose models don't show them flying which is a requisite for a Pokemon to be eligible for them. I never enjoyed them that much in X/Y to begin with.

Sopheria January 16th, 2016 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9078902)
There were literally no Sky Battles in OR/AS, and you could tell because some of the soaring encounters were Pokemon like Murkrow and Taillow, whose models don't show them flying which is a requisite for a Pokemon to be eligible for them. I never enjoyed them that much in X/Y to begin with.

Yea, I mean, it wasn't that impressive in X&Y, but I feel like it had potential if they had built on it a bit more. I'm more disappointed to see it not make a return because going forward I'd like to see them expand on the whole idea of you having environmental limitations on what kinds of Pokemon you can use in battle--if you're in the air, you can only use Flying-types, if you're underwater, only Pokemon that can breath underwater can be sent out (which you'll always have at least one handy, since you're flying/diving on one, so it works out). Just for a bit of extra challenge and a dash of realism~ As opposed to the Mawile vs. Murkrow standing on thin air that we got instead -_-

Sun January 16th, 2016 1:30 PM

I agree on the potential part with Sky Battles, especially we have a Flying-type Gym. Whilst not a fan of Sky Battles, they really could have make use of it in ORAS! Just imagine Winona limiting us to use Flying Pokemon! For those who do not use any Flying or floating Pokemon, it's definitely gonna drive them nuts! X'D

Imo, the feature that could have been part of ORAS from XY is easily the trainer customization feature.

I love Battle Chateau as well, we can earn money from various rich trainers and we can also have rematches with our favorite Gym Leaders and Elite Four members! So Battle Chateau could have been part of ORAS too!

Kaiyu January 16th, 2016 2:08 PM

Being able to ride on a Pokémon like in X/Y would be a neat thing to see. That's something I've been thinking about for a while now.

Voltobal January 16th, 2016 2:45 PM

The one feature I miss most is trainer customization. :/

Desert Stream~ January 16th, 2016 3:10 PM

May with short purple hair and a fedora would look weird.

Nah January 16th, 2016 3:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 9079081)
Can we just acknowledge that the games were rushed instead?

I'm not sure if rushed is exactly the reason why certain things aren't in ORAS though. Game Freak has been pretty inconsistent with features for years now (and always with no reason/a bullshit reason). Unless all of the games have been kinda rushed since circa Gen III?

NinjaRaichu January 16th, 2016 9:16 PM

player customisation, friend safari's and poke radar chaining

classiccartoonsftw January 17th, 2016 1:36 AM

I miss trainer customization too, not only because it allowed trainers to be unique, but also because May's design was utterly ruined.

Sirenita55 January 17th, 2016 8:39 AM

As many have already pointed out, trainer customisation was sorely missed. I love my sporty female character! I've also enjoyed using the Battle Chateau and riding the Pokemon through different terrains.

Mawa January 17th, 2016 11:35 AM

I have to agree with all of you. Customization was something I just loved. (I knew were I was going to spend my money).

RailgunSkye January 18th, 2016 7:41 AM

I can see why customization was not in ORAS and doubt it will be in the remakes in years to come. I do wish something like the Battle Chaetu was in ORAS

rpryor03 January 18th, 2016 8:28 AM

Battle Chateau was the major thing I would have liked to see. It was my preferred Battle _____ from XY, and was great for post-game grinding.

Rafimah January 19th, 2016 1:57 PM

I missed trainer customization, and I really liked having all my berry plots in one spot! Even though I didn't really use them, I thought some of the mutation mechanics were interesting, and I like the design of trees in XY better than ORAS. The new tree sprite looks too small to me. I liked the bushiness of XY.

Hikamaru January 19th, 2016 2:48 PM

I am also on the trainer customization bandwagon. While I don't use it as much in X as I should, it does promote unique trainer designs and makes online battles not just fighting endless clones.

A facility like the Battle Chateau would have been great as well. Relying on Elite Four rematches was way too much for me.

fenyx4 January 26th, 2016 9:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sopheria (Post 9078607)
I know they wanted to keep the original designs of the characters (even though they didn't keep the original designs), but really, if we could dress up a Pikachu, why can't we dress up the main character? They could have at least let us change the color scheme of their outfits--for example, making May's shirt and bandana purple instead of red.

What were the differences between the the XY Berry mechanics and the OR/AS ones again? I haven't done a whole lot with berries in either game, so I'm not familiar with that whole discrepancy issue. I remember there was the one garden in X&Y where you had to go in order to plant berries, but I'm can't remember if there was anything special to the mechanics that was unique to X&Y.

From what I can see, the main difference was that, in addition to the task of watering, Pokemon X and Y added the two caretaking tasks of weed removal and pest removal. I can see how those two mundane tasks could be un-fun and/or tedious for some, although I feel that they at least give you more stuff to do at the Berry fields and are a bit more representative of real-world plant care-taking (like seriously -.-). And at least you earn what you sow (contrasting with the Generation 6 "PokeBlock system" where there's barely any work involved.. >_>) I like the mutations in that they provide you with Berry bonuses, although I don't think that they should totally override normal Berry planting (as in, the main objective should be "what you plop in the dirt is largely what you harvest later on." XD)

Also, I found the "discrepancy" that I mentioned earlier (courtesy of Bulbapedia's Berry article): "In Generations III and IV, beyond the sprouting stages, all Berry plants had different sprites as they grew. In Generation VI, Berry plants only have unique sprites in their final, harvestable stage. In Pokémon X and Y, the sprites for the earlier stages differ based on the Berry's color, but in Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, the earlier stages use the same sprite for all Berries." I think Generation 6 was lazy, since Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald at least bothered to provide unique sprites/models for each Berry (excluding the quirky e-Reader Berries) past the general "Berry sprouting" stage. Also, I'm surprised that Pokemon OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire opted to be more lazy and removed the "color differences from the pre-harvestable stages" from Pokemon X and Y, which supplied some, albeit limited, artistic visual uniqueness.

Admittedly, having to keep track of watering, weed removal, pest removal, and Mulch application may seem a bit much just for getting some Berries, although I feel that the system is somewhat manageable. I'm not sure if I prefer the Generation 3 or Generation 6 fertilizing Mulches, though.. I feel that Hoenn's system of "5 Berry stages total" is a bit more feasible to work with compared to Kalos' system of "7 Berry stages total".

Also, an aside remark, but I hope that future games endeavor to keep at least a set of Berry fields (like the amount that Hoenn's Berry Master has in his backyard) clustered together. They can retain the "Berry fields scattered across the region" as well as "a device feature for tracking scattered Berry fields", so as long as we have some Berry Master-esque Berry field plots available! :)

EDIT: Also, what do they mean that "Mulch is unsuitable for Hoenn soil"? >:( When I was hoping for "Hoenn remakes", Mulches were like the one thing that I wanted to be added to Hoenn's "Berry caretaking system". -_- I mean, aren't fertilizers for tropical territories/areas/plants a thing? So disappointed that Hoenn misses out on Mulch action..

Hypno January 26th, 2016 7:28 PM

Trainer customization should have been part of at least the online mode, it saddens me that we went back to everybody having the same character model on online matches after X and Y.
It should have been expanded, so people can actually have a unique persona, I believe Pokemon Battle Revolution made the best use of trainer customization.

TEAMZaphods January 28th, 2016 6:21 PM

While I do miss trainer customization. I think that the playable characters in ORAS are a little bit more iconic and I think it would look weird if we were to suddenly be able to change the way that they looked. I think for me at least, I would leave this feature alone if it existed in ORAS. Side note though, I just beat OR and I'm having a hard time adjusting to the UI changes and general cleanliness in X.

The Evil Mewtwo January 29th, 2016 1:51 AM

Hmmmm, Probably the Trainer Customization and Battle Chateau.

I like training my pokemons on the Battle Chateau.


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