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Selena Fluorspar May 2nd, 2017 4:12 AM

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I don't even live in a country that has support for Nintendo Wi-Fi, there's never been a single event here. So it's understandable that I've got a lot of dislike for event-exclusives.

pkmin3033 May 2nd, 2017 4:35 AM

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I think permanent QR codes are the way forward, if they're too anal to actually put things in the game for capture like they should. The event-only Legendaries just keep piling up and up...and really, what's stopping them? Deoxys was event-only for YEARS until the Delta Episode, and it didn't kill them to finally relent with it. Why not the rest too?

Hikamaru May 2nd, 2017 5:30 AM

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With the success of Magearna being QR Code obtainable, this should be the way of the future when it comes to event Pokemon.

pkmin3033 May 2nd, 2017 5:37 AM

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Should be but won't be, I expect. Since when have Nintendo ever been considerate of their fans, after all?

LegendChu May 2nd, 2017 9:38 AM

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It won't be, I can almost guarantee that -_-.

Pika Pika :chu:

LilyGardy May 2nd, 2017 10:12 AM

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I am no fan of event Pokemon. I had been playing Pokemon games for 18 years before I finally obtained a Mew.

-Nonsense- May 2nd, 2017 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Meyneth (Post 9633296)
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Sun and Moon might be more time-consuming than the average Pokemon game...if not for the fact that Z-Moves trivialise the game. And really, when all you need to win in Pokemon is to be of a higher level than your opponent and use Super Effective moves...could it ever really be considered difficult?



Considering what rom hackers can do to the regular games....yeah if really Gamefreak wanted to. Still 7th gen felt harder.

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9633767)
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I think Game Freak responded to the "6th Gen is too easy" complaints, but they definitely went too far this time. In Sun & Moon I always forced to have to dish out a Z-Move against something that scared me, and being underleveled was not an option.

Yeah, I agree. During XY/Oras I barely needed a revive, this time.....even being overleveled didn't matter sometimes when fightning mons that get an atomatic stat boost on turn 1. 0___0

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Originally Posted by LegendChu (Post 9634809)
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I'm really curious to know, how the heck to you manage to run into so many Shinies :P, I hardly find any.

Pika Pika :chu:

Maybe she has the Shiny Charm?

pkmin3033 May 2nd, 2017 10:20 AM

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Well, Nintendo encourage piracy with their stance on fan games and not providing sufficient stock, so why not encourage the use of cheat devices because their games are incomplete by themselves, too?

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Originally Posted by GnX1 (Post 9635259)
Considering what rom hackers can do to the regular games....yeah if really Gamefreak wanted to. Still 7th gen felt harder.

Not without jeopardising that E for Everyone ESRB rating they couldn't. Fan games are made by fans, for experienced players. Pokemon games are made so that they can be played by everyone; you can't have soul-crushing difficulty in games for children. Which is what Pokemon games are, whether people care to admit it or not. This is not a bad thing at all, but it is what it is.

And if the best Game Freak can offer is B2W2's Challenge Mode, then...well. I don't think difficulty modes would make even the slightest bit of difference.

LegendChu May 2nd, 2017 10:23 AM

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You know what guys, I think this will make an interesting topic of discussion on PGC, gotta make one.

Edit: Done

Pika Pika :chu:

pkmin3033 May 2nd, 2017 10:25 AM

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The lack of difficulty in Pokemon titles, or how people are always confusing genuine difficulty with time-consuming tasks that only feel difficult because they take longer than they should?

...it's ironic that "Nintendo Hard" is actually the trope used to describe unfairly difficult games when Nintendo have no idea what a difficult game is any more...

-Nonsense- May 2nd, 2017 11:31 AM

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On the topic of shiny pokemon I've managed to hatch 3 so far in Sun doing a method called Swap Breeding, they are now a Flygon, Lycanroc, and Vikavolt.

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Originally Posted by Meyneth (Post 9635260)
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Well, Nintendo encourage piracy with their stance on fan games and not providing sufficient stock, so why not encourage the use of cheat devices because their games are incomplete by themselves, too?


Not without jeopardising that E for Everyone ESRB rating they couldn't. Fan games are made by fans, for experienced players. Pokemon games are made so that they can be played by everyone; you can't have soul-crushing difficulty in games for children. Which is what Pokemon games are, whether people care to admit it or not. This is not a bad thing at all, but it is what it is.

And if the best Game Freak can offer is B2W2's Challenge Mode, then...well. I don't think difficulty modes would make even the slightest bit of difference.

I just mean that if they were able then the games could be super hard. I thought people enjoyed challenge mode, was it really not that different?

pkmin3033 May 2nd, 2017 11:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GnX1 (Post 9635312)
I just mean that if they were able then the games could be super hard. I thought people enjoyed challenge mode, was it really not that different?

Honestly...not really? The movesets of Pokemon were slightly different, and they had held items, but they weren't any more intelligent or anything. It was different, but not really challenging...

I'm not actually sure how they could make Pokemon games challenging. Although I've not played any fan games. I suppose permadeath + no healing items + level cap could be pretty difficult, or something?

I also just spent an hour catching a Minior rainbow. What is my life. I want the shiny black one

-Nonsense- May 2nd, 2017 12:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Meyneth (Post 9635317)
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Honestly...not really? The movesets of Pokemon were slightly different, and they had held items, but they weren't any more intelligent or anything. It was different, but not really challenging...

I'm not actually sure how they could make Pokemon games challenging. Although I've not played any fan games. I suppose permadeath + no healing items + level cap could be pretty difficult, or something?

I also just spent an hour catching a Minior rainbow. What is my life. I want the shiny black one


I expected it to be a full game of hax like the battle tower/frontier/subway. They have permadeath in Uranium and Insurgence I think (just saying if you want to play a harder game).

Well why not go for the shiny then? Maybe you'll get lucky and get it early.

alisaie May 2nd, 2017 12:24 PM

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Oh thats what i should do with my moon. A nuzlocke or smth. If i ever finish sun first.

pkmin3033 May 2nd, 2017 12:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GnX1 (Post 9635341)
I expected it to be a full game of hax like the battle tower/frontier/subway. They have permadeath in Uranium and Insurgence I think (just saying if you want to play a harder game).

Well why not go for the shiny then? Maybe you'll get lucky and get it early.

Nah, there wasn't that much of a difference in Black 2's Challenge Mode, honestly! I used my AR to unlock it so I could play it from the beginning - why on earth it wasn't available at the start I do not know - and I didn't find it particularly tough. I did need to level a little more, but not too much.

Uranium I have, Insurgence I don't. I keep meaning to get around to Uranium...

Well, for one I don't have the shiny charm...and I don't have a Pokemon with Damp either, and the things keep using Selfdestruct. I'd have to just wander and hope I get lucky...and I don't want it THAT badly. xD

-Nonsense- May 2nd, 2017 2:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ash (Post 9635345)
52.

Oh thats what i should do with my moon. A nuzlocke or smth. If i ever finish sun first.

Sounds like fun, just don't get too attached any of your team.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Meyneth (Post 9635347)
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Nah, there wasn't that much of a difference in Black 2's Challenge Mode, honestly! I used my AR to unlock it so I could play it from the beginning - why on earth it wasn't available at the start I do not know - and I didn't find it particularly tough. I did need to level a little more, but not too much.

Uranium I have, Insurgence I don't. I keep meaning to get around to Uranium...

Well, for one I don't have the shiny charm...and I don't have a Pokemon with Damp either, and the things keep using Selfdestruct. I'd have to just wander and hope I get lucky...and I don't want it THAT badly. xD

That's honestly a good question....maybe its one of those for the sake of the story things. Kinda like Reshiram and Zekrom being Shiny locked.


Minior can be breed with a Ditto so if you wanted you could try the Masuda Method to get one.

alisaie May 2nd, 2017 2:36 PM

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I've done a few nuzlockes in the past. Its just aside of wonderlocke you get a lot of the same teams by playing the same game(s) and even after a time its the same re: wonderlocke. Doing it on a new gen would be refreshing.

Hikamaru May 2nd, 2017 3:25 PM

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Don't ever be overconfident in a Nuzlocke. It can be your undoing.

-Nonsense- May 2nd, 2017 4:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ash (Post 9635423)
55.

I've done a few nuzlockes in the past. Its just aside of wonderlocke you get a lot of the same teams by playing the same game(s) and even after a time its the same re: wonderlocke. Doing it on a new gen would be refreshing.

Yeah but now on wonderlockes the only difference is instead of Zigzagoons you'll now mostly be getting Pikipek, Rattata, and Meowth unless you do a lot of trading. Hope you have better luck if that's the plan.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9635450)
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Don't ever be overconfident in a Nuzlocke. It can be your undoing.

Did you lose one?

Hikamaru May 2nd, 2017 4:30 PM

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I watch Nuzlockes on YouTube since I'm way too scared to do my own.

Radiating May 2nd, 2017 6:06 PM

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I just started a Diamond Nuzlocke yesterday and a wild budew almost killed my shinx.

LegendChu May 3rd, 2017 12:29 AM

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You know what guys, its been a long time since I've attempted a Nuzlocke, maybe I should {:3}. I did make a few of my own, but not sure if anyone will want to try them :).

Pika Pika :chu:

alisaie May 3rd, 2017 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GnX1 (Post 9635479)
57.

Yeah but now on wonderlockes the only difference is instead of Zigzagoons you'll now mostly be getting Pikipek, Rattata, and Meowth unless you do a lot of trading. Hope you have better luck if that's the plan.

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Depends on what the level cap is before pokemon stop listening to you before you complete the first trial. Oras is a measly lv 10 so i noped out of that lmao.

LilyGardy May 3rd, 2017 11:27 AM

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Inspired by a story of Youtuber ProJared taking a Vileplume called Nuptup to the Hall Of Fame in Fire Red I have started my first Nuzlocke ever in Black.

2 Gyms in and I have only one death. My Patrat Ratso against Lenora being sacrificed to Lenora Watchog's Retaliate. The star of my team so far is Jane my Herdier although my starter Nia (Now a Pignite) made quick work of Lenora.

With Critical Hits everywhere it only gets harder from here although one of my catches was a male Pidove with Super Luck. :)

alisaie May 3rd, 2017 12:57 PM

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NUPTUP

i never watched all of his nuzlocke but i do know about nuptup and watched his gym battle with misty. best.


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