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MarinoKadame February 25th, 2016 10:13 AM

Pokemon Daybreak Sun and Twilight Moon would sound better.

mew_nani February 25th, 2016 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MarinoKadame (Post 9133603)
Pokemon Daybreak Sun and Twilight Moon would sound better.

I dunno... I'd reserve those names for the eventual remake if they're real. All the Pokemon games that aren't remakes have had short, consise titles. I wouldn't expect these to be any different.

Bounsweet February 25th, 2016 10:27 AM

I'm skeptical until tomorrow morning. Pokémon has registered trademarks for tons of titles that were never used (Pokémon Brown, Pokémon Gray) so I'm not jumping the gun on this, despite possibilities.

If, however, it is legitimate then I can already see how it would be a sequel to Kalos. Unused coding for AZ's Floette, the sundial in Anistar, etc. just leaves Kalos feeling unfinished as it is right now.

MarinoKadame February 25th, 2016 10:36 AM

Here's the 10 unused trademark of pokemon.

Pocket Monsters: Topaz
Pocket Monsters: Tourmaline
Pocket Monsters: Moonstone
Pocket Monsters: Brown
Pocket Monsters: Grey
Pocket Monsters: Vermilion
Pocket Monsters: Purple
Pocket Monsters: Crimson
Pocket Monsters: Scarlet

And adding Delta Emerald to it.

Z25 February 25th, 2016 10:58 AM

Here's the thing, about the un registered trade marks. They don't have logos.

Any trade mark that becomes a game, has a logo like this one.

So Sun and Moon is probably real, and being announced tomorrow.

Iceshadow3317 February 25th, 2016 11:03 AM

I can see these being continuations of X and Y.

I want to point something out, in the Pokemon XYZ opening, you see Ash and his pokemon standing, forming what everyone thought was the Arceus symbol, however, looking at Pokemon Sun's logo. It matches the symbol Ash and his pokemon's Shadows form.

I think this is probably Gen 6.5 still. If not 6.5 then 7, but is connected to Kalos.

MarinoKadame February 25th, 2016 11:07 AM

I just wish news like that would not be leaked. This make most people not even wanting to watch the direct because it got spoiled to them.

Also it seems the trademark came out 3 weeks ago and it's only because of the Direct people started to search about trademark of a new game.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by IcyIce (Post 9133657)
I can see these being continuations of X and Y.

I want to point something out, in the Pokemon XYZ opening, you see Ash and his pokemon standing, forming what everyone thought was the Arceus symbol, however, looking at Pokemon Sun's logo. It matches the symbol Ash and his pokemon's Shadows form.

I think this is probably Gen 6.5 still. If not 6.5 then 7, but is connected to Kalos.

I found it, it doesn't look very round though, so I think it's a coincidence, as it looks more checkered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRqyMYkcAUA

It's in second 2, blink and you'll miss it.

firekid115 February 25th, 2016 11:12 AM

After thinking about it, I'm guessing Sun/Moon are going to be X/Y sequels set in a different region or southern kalos.

I do hope i'm wrong though, and we get gen 7 announced.

Although I think it'd be cool if Sun/Moon were gen 7, but still tied to X/Y (plot wise).

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by firekid115 (Post 9133671)
After thinking about it, I'm guessing Sun/Moon are going to be X/Y sequels set in a different region or southern kalos.

I do hope i'm wrong though, and we get gen 7 announced.

Although I think it'd be cool if Sun/Moon were gen 7, but still tied to X/Y (plot wise).

Me too, I hope it's more of a GS style sequel over B2W2 in terms of generation and setting. The games could also possibly be prequels, perhaps something happened in a neighboring region that made Zygarde rush to stop it, hoping it won't spread to Kalos.
Perhaps Magearna is the mascot of Sun, as it gives out a blinding light in the movie cover. Remember what I said before about legends and new gens? Whenever a new legendary is shown in a movie the next gen games soon follow in that same year. It was the case with Lugia and GS, [email protected] and RS, Manaphy and DP, Mewtwo Y and XY.

MarinoKadame February 25th, 2016 11:27 AM

To me Magearna is more tied to the Moon than Sun for some reason.

Nekaku February 25th, 2016 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Poke_Spirit (Post 9133583)
They better give us some gameplay footages in the direct..

I doubt they would be hyping up just titles. I see gameplay as a thing. Soon the fanbase will be at peace. Well maybe not be peace but we will be happy. I think GS were Pokemon 2 at one point? I am curious if gens are a fan term and not an official term.

Marky Vigoroth February 25th, 2016 11:38 AM

Right now, I suspect that this would be a side-series. I mean, while even I have this excitement, we are essentially discussing something one day too early.

If this is a main series, then this would explain why the games are coming out later than I thought. (http://markysheap.tumblr.com/post/123594186483)

(...I would be disappointed, though. I wanted to play all of the other Zygarde formes...)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9133691)
I doubt they would be hyping up just titles. I see gameplay as a thing. Soon the fanbase will be at peace. Well maybe not be peace but we will be happy. I think GS were Pokemon 2 at one point? I am curious if gens are a fan term and not an official term.

Yup, Generations are a fan made term, go to any of the generation articles on Bulbapedia and it mentions that it's a fan term. So, even if they add new mons and is in southern Kalos we can consider it Gen 7 or Gen 6.5. Actually, I'm hoping that either way we get our Dragon eeveelution, it's all I ask for...

Nekaku February 25th, 2016 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Marky Vigoroth (Post 9133710)
Right now, I suspect that this would be a side-series. I mean, while even I have this excitement, we are essentially discussing something one day too early.

If this is a main series, then this would explain why the games are coming out later than I thought. (http://markysheap.tumblr.com/post/123594186483)

(...I would be disappointed, though. I wanted to play all of the other Zygarde formes...)

Which would be very weird. How would it count as a side series if GF is making it? I would think if GF is doing it it would be a main series game since I am unsure but don't think GF does anything but main series. I know Masuda was with Pokken but that was just him not GF as a whole. Masuda is not the creator of Pokemon but he might as well be since the creator is never involved or at least with the social aspect. He always seems mia


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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9133719)
Yup, Generations are a fan made term, go to any of the generation articles on Bulbapedia and it mentions that it's a fan term. So, even if they add new mons and is in southern Kalos we can consider it Gen 7 or Gen 6.5. Actually, I'm hoping that either way we get our Dragon eeveelution, it's all I ask for...

Ah ok cool so GF could do anything they want. I thought Gens were official but this is good and interesting to know.


Drageon

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9133721)
Which would be very weird. How would it count as a side series if GF is making it? I would think if GF is doing it it would be a main series game since I am unsure but don't think GF does anything but main series. I know Masuda was with Pokken but that was just him not GF as a whole. Masuda is not the creator of Pokemon but he might as well be since the creator is never involved or at least with the social aspect. He always seems mia




Ah ok cool so GF could do anything they want. I thought Gens were official but this is good and interesting to know.


Drageon

And yet they didn't dare to for the first six fan recognized generations... so who knows if they're willing now.

Nekaku February 25th, 2016 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9133733)
And yet they didn't dare to for the first six fan recognized generations... so who knows if they're willing now.

Well we got BW2 so that is something. Maybe Masuda decided to shake things up just took a long time

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9133737)
Well we got BW2 so that is something. Maybe Masuda decided to shake things up just took a long time

We'll know if B2W2 was an abnormally or not in 19 hours :).

I've been thinking...what if they surprise us by announcing Sun and Moon, but before that they announce 'Z'. That way they'll give some closure to Kalos for those who want it, and some hype for those who want something new. It'll be interesting, especially since most are expecting only Sun and Moon.

Sword Master February 25th, 2016 12:06 PM

pokemon-sunmoon.com
This website is redirecting to the main Pokemon site. Maybe it will go up after the direct?
Now, I don't know what to expect from the next Pokemon direct, half expecting Z, and half expecting Sun and Moon.

Nekaku February 25th, 2016 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9133745)
We'll know if B2W2 was an abnormally or not in 19 hours :).

I've been thinking...what if they surprise us by announcing Sun and Moon, but before that they announce 'Z'. That way they'll give some closure to Kalos for those who want it, and some hype for those who want something new. It'll be interesting, especially since most are expecting only Sun and Moon.

Maybe but I wonder if all would drop this year

Poke_Spirit February 25th, 2016 12:11 PM

Imagine the mind f**k if sun and moon turned out to be spinoffs..

Juice585 February 25th, 2016 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Poke_Spirit (Post 9133758)
Imagine the mind f**k if sun and moon turned out to be spinoffs..

There would be rioting.

MarinoKadame February 25th, 2016 12:16 PM

Pokemon Sun Moon being spin off like Pokemon Conquest. I can see that.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Poke_Spirit (Post 9133758)
Imagine the mind f**k if sun and moon turned out to be spinoffs..

Has there ever been a spin off with logos that look like those? Something about the sun and moon logos reminds me of the ones used for HgSS, B2W2, and OrAs.

MarinoKadame February 25th, 2016 12:32 PM

Looking at the trademark I found something quite different with those games. They are somehow written PoKéMoN Sun and Moon instead of Pokémon like all the other trademarks.

https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#basic/1+1+1+1/50+50+50+50/pok%C3%A9mon

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MarinoKadame (Post 9133785)
Looking at the trademark I found something quite different with those games. They are somehow written PoKéMoN Sun and Moon instead of Pokémon like all the other trademarks.

https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#basic/1+1+1+1/50+50+50+50/pok%C3%A9mon

Oh, that's true. I wonder if it's to mimic the font of the actual logo.

Iceshadow3317 February 25th, 2016 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9133670)
I found it, it doesn't look very round though, so I think it's a coincidence, as it looks more checkered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRqyMYkcAUA

It's in second 2, blink and you'll miss it.

This is true, but if you count Ash as the center, it looks a big a like. But I see what you mean.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by IcyIce (Post 9133800)
This is true, but if you count Ash as the center, it looks a big a like. But I see what you mean.

Kind of does, but something about it made me think of multiple Zygarde mouths lined up... as they create a sort of crisscross.

Almost 18 hours left... I'm sleeping early tonight to make time go faster {XD}, plus I won't be as sleepy as I was when XY were unveiled.

Iceshadow3317 February 25th, 2016 12:52 PM

I should have added this to my last post, but since it popped up after.

Also, if XY are truly based off Norse Mythology like people suggested a while ago. The Sun and Moon both play a massive role in Norse Mythology with Hati and Skool.

MarinoKadame February 25th, 2016 12:55 PM

Also noticed some games were not in the list of trademarks. Why is there no Platinum or Black/White, Black2/White2 or even FireRed/LeafGreen ?

MarioManH February 25th, 2016 1:18 PM

XY dealt with the some massive weapon of destruction. Maybe Sun and Moon deal with the other country (or continent, can't remember right off the top of my head) that was referenced in XY and tie in Zygrade and the massive weapon even further. Maybe something a long the lines of Ragnarok? Not saying that flying horses and giants will raid the Earth or whatever, but what if the world was on the brink of crisis due to the same weapon being fueled by some Sun/Moon Pokemon..? Thoughts?

Bounsweet February 25th, 2016 1:21 PM

Was it ever explicitly stated anywhere that the region that Kalos was at war with 3,000 years ago was a neighboring region bordering the south or east? Sun/Moon could be more involved with that region, while allowing us to still access Kalos like in XY. I'm probably grasping at straws with this, but that would be pretty neat imo.

Iceshadow3317 February 25th, 2016 1:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MarioManH (Post 9133846)
XY dealt with the some massive weapon of destruction. Maybe Sun and Moon deal with the other country (or continent, can't remember right off the top of my head) that was referenced in XY and tie in Zygrade and the massive weapon even further. Maybe something a long the lines of Ragnarok? Not saying that flying horses and giants will raid the Earth or whatever, but what if the world was on the brink of crisis due to the same weapon being fueled by some Sun/Moon Pokemon..? Thoughts?

When XY first came up, I suggested this with people saying something about Norse Mythrology. It turned out that the world or at least Kalos was on the brink of destruction. This is why I was so surprised and annoyed for there not to be a Legendary Trio like the beasts. I thought they would be based off Fenrir, Hati and Skoll.

This is now why I think this might be a continuation of Kalos, even if it is a different Gen. It is possible that they turn South Kalos into a different generation. Possibly the Azoth Region.

The mascots of the games will probably be based of Hati and Skoll. I don't see anything else being a good mascot for Sun and Moon.

Jessie February 25th, 2016 1:34 PM

I'm hoping it's a Kalos part two, with new Pokemon and new region of Kalos opened up. Or, perhaps we learn about the mysterious Couriway Town train station. Strange Souvenier? The intensity........the mystery......tomorrow can't come fast enough.

SirBoglor February 25th, 2016 1:41 PM

What specific time will Nintendo Direct air tomorrow?

MarinoKadame February 25th, 2016 1:43 PM

7AM PST and 10AM EST.

MarioManH February 25th, 2016 1:45 PM

I'm curious if this will extend to a Generation 7 or they will just patch ORAS and XY with some new pokemon in the pokedex?

MarinoKadame February 25th, 2016 1:52 PM

Don't think they will ever patch the other games.

Iceshadow3317 February 25th, 2016 1:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MarioManH (Post 9133872)
I'm curious if this will extend to a Generation 7 or they will just patch ORAS and XY with some new pokemon in the pokedex?

Even if this is 6.5, I would guess that it will work like a normal pokemon game. When new pokemon or forms are added, they are stuck to that specific game until later games comes out.

This would be the same for new Megas. They will work in the newer games, but they cannot be transferred or used to old games.

SirBoglor February 25th, 2016 2:01 PM

Yeah, patches just don't happen with these games. I believe that they do this to keep people buying the new games. For example, if they had patched Soul Silver to include all of the newer Pokemon, would you be as motivated to buy new Pokemon games?

Nekaku February 25th, 2016 2:15 PM

Taking about HG/SS I have to admit they were the prettiest of the games. They were sprites but mixed with 3D while XY and ORAS is very pixely. I wonder if these games will use a different art style.

James169 February 25th, 2016 2:27 PM

What if we get Southern Kalos, but it's split into 2 because of the war in the past, so there is SE Kalos and SW Kalos, referencing the sun rising in the east and setting in the west. The 2 areas could have 1 league combined, with 4 gyms in each half. I know other issues such as evil team, but I'm sure someone creative could develop this idea.

JP February 25th, 2016 2:39 PM

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Originally Posted by James169 (Post 9133907)
What if we get Southern Kalos, but it's split into 2 because of the war in the past, so there is SE Kalos and SW Kalos, referencing the sun rising in the east and setting in the west. The 2 areas could have 1 league combined, with 4 gyms in each half. I know other issues such as evil team, but I'm sure someone creative could develop this idea.

I feel this is super likely, at least these games taking part in the southern part of Kalos and possibly connecting with the area of Kalos we're currently familiar with. I think that because this is such a huge milestone for Pokemon, they want to give fans something that they've been asking for, and one of those is a game with two maps a la Kanto/Johto.

I love how mysterious and in the dark we are about these games though. I always look forward to these sorts of announcements and the long, slow teasing of new games.

Nekaku February 25th, 2016 2:43 PM

What if Sun and moon is space? Like literally in space? I remember someone saying Pokemon came from space or at least it was a theory someone had. (In the Pokemon world) Plus wasn't the old rainbow rumor at the end of Gen 5 about it being in space? A space region could truly be something amazing.

JP February 25th, 2016 2:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9133933)
What if Sun and moon is space? Like literally in space? I remember someone saying Pokemon came from space or at least it was a theory someone had. (In the Pokemon world) Plus wasn't the old rainbow rumor at the end of Gen 5 about it being in space? A space region could truly be something amazing.

That'd be for sure interesting, but that's probably way too out there if you ask me. Now, maybe a space station of some sort as a little explorable area like the super tiny areas from previous games? I can see that.

Z25 February 25th, 2016 3:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9133933)
What if Sun and moon is space? Like literally in space? I remember someone saying Pokemon came from space or at least it was a theory someone had. (In the Pokemon world) Plus wasn't the old rainbow rumor at the end of Gen 5 about it being in space? A space region could truly be something amazing.

Imagine the trailer:

The year is 20XX, another Great Pokemon war has left Planet Earth devastated and destroyed! The survivors of this catastrophe have been sent up into space to live on a colony created by Devon Corporation. They must adjust to life on the Moon but trouble is a foot!

Little do they know a group of intergalactic pirates are approaching them. The humans and remaining pokemon must escape the moon and retreat to a nearby planet suitable for humans. However one hero rises up to save humanity.

Probably never happen, but I'd be down with pokemon in space.

Sun and Moon could bring in more space themes though.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 3:08 PM

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Originally Posted by IcyIce (Post 9133851)
When XY first came up, I suggested this with people saying something about Norse Mythrology. It turned out that the world or at least Kalos was on the brink of destruction. This is why I was so surprised and annoyed for there not to be a Legendary Trio like the beasts. I thought they would be based off Fenrir, Hati and Skoll.

This is now why I think this might be a continuation of Kalos, even if it is a different Gen. It is possible that they turn South Kalos into a different generation. Possibly the Azoth Region.

The mascots of the games will probably be based of Hati and Skoll. I don't see anything else being a good mascot for Sun and Moon.

Zydog is believed to be a based on Fenrir. Perhaps this game will have Zygarde 10%, with 100% being saved for Pokemon Ztar.

Rivvon February 25th, 2016 3:18 PM

Okay so it's time for some comparisons of sun and moon in regards to life vs. death. As others have brought up, there is a sundial in Anistar City, and an NPC there mentions that moondials are a thing, too. So already there is some possible association with Kalos, if not with X & Y themselves.

Usually the sun, with its bright light and warmth, is associated with life. After all, crops and really any living being needs sunlight to live. On the other hand, the colder, dim moon can be associated with death, the necessary end to the cycle of life.

What makes this interesting is that in the logos, Sun is associated with warm colors such as red, while Moon has cool blues. Normally this would make a lot of sense--we don't have a blue sun, after all. But if we're associating the sun with life and the moon with death, and taking that a step further and applying it to X & Y, it gets a little messy. The red Pokémon is the Pokémon of death, while alternatively the blue Pokémon is the Pokémon of life.

So what could this potentially mean? I'd say there are two possibilities. One would be that they are doing a sort of juxtaposition, where, for instance, Pokémon Moon focuses on the theme of death but its mascot is the Life Pokémon (think of B & W where Reshiram, the Vast White Pokémon, graced the cover of Black Version). Two would be that they're subverting the roles of the sun and moon. After all, a sun too bright and hot could equate to much death. The moon controls the tides which is essentially giving it reign over the water that we all need to survive.


An interesting random thing: Team Flare could be associated with the sun. Could there possibly be a new team, perhaps like Team Lunar? Would they be good guys, or bad? Maybe they start off trying to stop Flare but get corrupt along the way?

Iceshadow3317 February 25th, 2016 3:38 PM

According to Forbes, Pokemon Sun and Moon trademarks are fake. So currently I don't know what to trust, nor do I think I will believe anything else until tomorrow.

Edit: They may still be real but it is hard to currently say till tomorrow.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 3:45 PM

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Originally Posted by IcyIce (Post 9133986)
According to Forbes, Pokemon Sun and Moon trademarks are fake. So currently I don't know what to trust, nor do I think I will believe anything else until tomorrow.

I read that it's possible to trademark something and make it come off as the real thing as the verification process is slow.

I do wonder why they link to the site...but perhaps Sun and Moon were trademarked years ago like Brown and Amethyst. They sound like names they already would have.

Nekaku February 25th, 2016 3:48 PM

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Originally Posted by zoroarkrules25 (Post 9133960)
Imagine the trailer:

The year is 20XX, another Great Pokemon war has left Planet Earth devastated and destroyed! The survivors of this catastrophe have been sent up into space to live on a colony created by Devon Corporation. They must adjust to life on the Moon but trouble is a foot!

Little do they know a group of intergalactic pirates are approaching them. The humans and remaining pokemon must escape the moon and retreat to a nearby planet suitable for humans. However one hero rises up to save humanity.

Probably never happen, but I'd be down with pokemon in space.

Sun and Moon could bring in more space themes though.

That would be amazing or a game where you work in a central space station and go on missions

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 3:51 PM

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Originally Posted by IcyIce (Post 9133986)
According to Forbes, Pokemon Sun and Moon trademarks are fake. So currently I don't know what to trust, nor do I think I will believe anything else until tomorrow.

Edit: They may still be real but it is hard to currently say till tomorrow.

I looked at Forbes, and they were talking about the parody account, NinlendoofAmerica. They said it might still be real. The fake account did fool Siliconera, and IGN according to the article.

MarinoKadame February 25th, 2016 4:05 PM

I remember the last fight with Lysandre has the whole background like we were fighting on the Sun.


Z25 February 25th, 2016 4:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9134001)
I looked at Forbes, and they were talking about the parody account, NinlendoofAmerica. They said it might still be real. The fake account did fool Siliconera, and IGN according to the article.

Also worth noting, twitter suspended that account which is interesting...
Nintendo may not be happy with this leak...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 4:37 PM

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Originally Posted by zoroarkrules25 (Post 9134020)
Also worth noting, twitter suspended that account which is interesting...
Nintendo may not be happy with this leak...

And/or misinformation. I don't think N cares about the trademarks being known, it's not actually a leak as it didn't come directly from them.

Nekaku February 25th, 2016 4:42 PM

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Originally Posted by zoroarkrules25 (Post 9134020)
Also worth noting, twitter suspended that account which is interesting...
Nintendo may not be happy with this leak...

Reggie Mad! Reggie Smash! Reggie destroy leakers!

Z25 February 25th, 2016 4:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9134043)
And/or misinformation. I don't think N cares about the trademarks being known, it's not actually a leak as it didn't come directly from them.

Maybe, but they never shut down the parody accounts( there's hundreds). This one started getting recognition because it found the trademarks. Which could have gone unnoticed if they didn't find them. Maybe they wanted it shut down, so it wouldn't be taken as an official source with it's official info?
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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9134046)
Reggie Mad! Reggie Smash! Reggie destroy leakers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTeBHMcXjuA

Reggie doesn't tolerate this!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 4:47 PM

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Originally Posted by zoroarkrules25 (Post 9134048)
Maybe, but they never shut down the parody accounts( there's hundreds). This one started getting recognition because it found the trademarks. Which could have gone unnoticed if they didn't find them. Maybe they wanted it shut down, so it wouldn't be taken as an official source with it's official info?

Actually someone else found the source first. The reason some sites believed it was because the trademark rumors had made the earlier rounds, and they thought this confirmed it. In order words they were taken too seriously that they had to clear it up by shutting them down. I'm thinking that Magearna might be the mascot of Moon. I know I said Sun before, but now that I think about it, it 's bottom part resembles an artificial satellite like Spotnik, or the Death Star in Star Wars. Plus it's name begins with M. Thus far Dialga, Palkia, Xerneas, and Yvetal share a similar naming scheme with the games whose covers they grace.

Z25 February 25th, 2016 5:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9134052)
Actually someone else found the source first. The reason some sites believed it was because the trademark rumors had made the earlier rounds, and they thought this confirmed it. In order words they were taken too seriously that they had to clear it up by shutting them down. I'm thinking that Magearna might be the mascot of Moon. I know I said Sun before, but now that I think about it, it 's bottom part resembles an artificial satellite like Spotnik, or the Death Star in Star Wars. Plus it's name begins with M. Thus far Dialga, Palkia, Xerneas, and Yvetal share a similar naming scheme with the games whose covers they grace.

That is probably the case.

And I don't know about magearna being the mascot.

That would make it likely volcanion is the sun mascot.

Having two mythical legends as cover legends has never happened before. But I guess it could.

I think we will get two new legends the use the symbols somewhere in their design.

But if it was magearna, it would make Azoth likely, which could be cool to see.

firekid115 February 25th, 2016 5:10 PM

Here we are, the night before the reveal. I'm definitely going to remember this week for years to come, as it's been . . . quite the week for speculation haha. Back to back, from the Pokemon Niji thing, to the confirmation of a direct, to the leaking of Sun/Moon logo's.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 5:25 PM

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Originally Posted by firekid115 (Post 9134079)
Here we are, the night before the reveal. I'm definitely going to remember this week for years to come, as it's been . . . quite the week for speculation haha. Back to back, from the Pokemon Niji thing, to the confirmation of a direct, to the leaking of Sun/Moon logo's.

Not to mention the 'leaked' list of Pokémon from before the Niji rumors. Also, technically the logos were uncovered, it's not a typical leak. That of course could mean we could get something else since it is just a trademark we're looking at right now. But it has been a wild week, now only 13 and a half hours left.

Hiatus February 25th, 2016 5:27 PM

Would anyone please be able to link me to the leak? I'm so behind on this.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 5:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Peitharchia (Post 9134100)
Would anyone please be able to link me to the leak? I'm so behind on this.

It's not a leak, but someone did uncover a trademark in a tm site. https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#basi...0/pok%C3%A9mon


Type Pokemon Sun and it should appear.

MarioManH February 25th, 2016 5:53 PM

Kind of feeling the vibe that XY is to "Sun/Moon" (I'll use that for now until Direct tomorrow) as RBY is to GSC. Another generation introduced as well as a "sequal" to the previous installment

James169 February 25th, 2016 6:10 PM

I know there is the whole dark type being evil in Japanese (or something along those lines) thing, but wouldn't these games- if they are sun and moon- be the most befitting for a dark type gym to finally happen. Moreso Pokémon moon than sun, but still.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 6:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James169 (Post 9134158)
I know there is the whole dark type being evil in Japanese (or something along those lines) thing, but wouldn't these games- if they are sun and moon- be the most befitting for a dark type gym to finally happen. Moreso Pokémon moon than sun, but still.

Yeah, in Japanese it's called Evil. Perhaps we could get version exclusive gym leaders. A dark type gym in Moon, and a Fairy or Psychic type gym in Sun, if those are the names in the end.

12 hours left!

Edit: Now it's down to 10 hours and 24 minutes.

MarioManH February 25th, 2016 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9134177)
Yeah, in Japanese it's called Evil. Perhaps we could get version exclusive gym leaders. A dark type gym in Moon, and a Fairy or Psychic type gym in Sun, if those are the names in the end.

12 hours left!

Edit: Now it's down to 10 hours and 24 minutes.

I'm probably not going to sleep tonight haha. Anticipation is killing me

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarioManH (Post 9134438)
I'm probably not going to sleep tonight haha. Anticipation is killing me

Same here...it's one of the things I dislike about possible big reveals xD. Less than 8 hours left now...

destinedjagold February 25th, 2016 11:44 PM

I read and liked an idea that was posted on reddit. If the next main game that's gonna be announced/released is going to be a generation 7 PKMN game, then he hoped that it would be a gen6.5 kind of game, kinda like how Johto, a gen2 game, felt like a gen1.5 game because its connected to the gen 1 game. :3

ggctuk February 25th, 2016 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9133390)
These could be for the games after 'Z'. These are just trademarks thus far like Waterblue, Delta Emerald, and Grey.

What's interesting is the following details regarding these submissions:

One: They submitted English logos. I don't think they would go to the trouble of creating English logos for a title they might not use.

Second one is more key though: Take a look at which office these names are being registered. The spares are all registered at the Japan Patent Office yet these ones have been registered at the Office for Harmonization in the Internal Market. So far, all Pokemon trademarks registered at OHIM have been used in released games.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2016 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by destinedjagold (Post 9134481)
I read and liked an idea that was posted on reddit. If the next main game that's gonna be announced/released is going to be a generation 7 PKMN game, then he hoped that it would be a gen6.5 kind of game, kinda like how Johto, a gen2 game, felt like a gen1.5 game because its connected to the gen 1 game. :3

I'll like this too.

In a way Sun and Moon make great 20th anniversary names. Sun is represented by the color red, sun brings to mind Ho-oh, the red in the logo is reminiscent of Rubies color wise, plus it's associated with life.
Moon is being represented by the color blue, it's name brings to mind Lugia, the logo brings to mind sapphires (plus moon is tied to the sea), the moon can represent death. And both bring to mind space (Pearl and Galactic). Now to fit in White and Black... well night is black and day is seen as it's opposite...

Pokemon_Hero February 26th, 2016 12:22 AM

Why would they leak a new generation game?

It's the Z game. Moon and Sun are probably new forms for Xerneas and Yveltal.

MarioManH February 26th, 2016 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokemon_Hero (Post 9134509)
Why would they leak a new generation game?

It's the Z game. Moon and Sun are probably new forms for Xerneas and Yveltal.

I can't help but feel this is most plausible throughout everything I've seen on the internet since the leaks.

Nekaku February 26th, 2016 12:58 AM

I will cry tears of joy if one is 3DS and the other is for Wii U like Smash did. While Masuda said he wanted to keep it on handhelds things do change and I would be fine with it. Granted as long as the reveal is solid and the games are good I don't care if it is only 3DS. I just want the games to be worthy of an anniversary and if it is a new gen they don't have to skim on content to make the 3rd version big since if it is a new gen it will prove they gave up on the 3rd game concept. Though I saw someone tweet that they games are going back to sprites. Not sure how truthful that was since it was one random twit (What I call people who tweet) said on it.


All the speculation will end in a few hours so it is both sad and happy. :)

One thing I would like to see the series do is make the games connect more. In a plot/story way

destinedjagold February 26th, 2016 1:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9134545)
All the speculation will end in a few hours so it is both sad and happy. :)

inb4 they'll just announce the release of Gen1 games for the 3ds.
/runs away

edit: Anyway, can anyone tell me where we can watch the direct later?

Nekaku February 26th, 2016 1:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by destinedjagold (Post 9134546)
inb4 they'll just announce the release of Gen1 games for the 3ds.
/runs away

I think with how much Masuda has been tweeting about them that would be horrible. XD Especially when the games are out in Japan the moment the direct hits.

Liberal Army February 26th, 2016 1:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by destinedjagold (Post 9134546)
inb4 they'll just announce the release of Gen1 games for the 3ds.
/runs away

edit: Anyway, can anyone tell me where we can watch the direct later?

I'm going to watch it on Youtube: youtube.com/tyranitartube
He has a live stream planned. Other Youtubers have one as well

destinedjagold February 26th, 2016 1:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberal Army (Post 9134571)
I'm going to watch it on Youtube: youtube.com/tyranitartube
He has a live stream planned. Other Youtubers have one as well

Thanks, but I already found the link on reddit. I should have removed that question from my previous post. Anyway... here's the link that I found.
https://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct/02-26-2016/

Nekaku February 26th, 2016 3:24 AM

Imagine if the games do something insane like make it so Ash is Kalos champion and Alain is an in game friend that helps you on a quest. At this point I'm saying the door is open to anything. 4 or so hours till we get confirmation.

Now as for MP I would love if the concept of linking was used more. With Gen 6 you could battle and trade anywhere. You did not need a pokemon center or a single play for the GTS. Would like a step further where you can meet up with people in real time and do side quests.

ZafirChad February 26th, 2016 4:00 AM

IF these games are 7th Gen games, then isn't it a bit weird to have that this year while A new event has been confirmed for Japan. This event is to distribute Mew in X/Y and OR/AS. All copies of Pokémon Green, Red, Blue and Yellow on the Nintendo eShop in Japan will come with a special Serial Code within the first year of being distributed and the code will be redeemable until March 31st 2017.

Why would they extend this until next year if a new Gen is supposed to come this year (if it happens)? was this ever done before with past Gens?

Nekaku February 26th, 2016 4:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZafirChad (Post 9134669)
IF these games are 7th Gen games, then isn't it a bit weird to have that this year while A new event has been confirmed for Japan. This event is to distribute Mew in X/Y and OR/AS. All copies of Pokémon Green, Red, Blue and Yellow on the Nintendo eShop in Japan will come with a special Serial Code within the first year of being distributed and the code will be redeemable until March 31st 2017.

Why would they extend this until next year if a new Gen is supposed to come this year (if it happens)? was this ever done before with past Gens?

That could literally just be an anniversary thing. And was pointed out which I just found out myself Gens are only a fan term and apparently not something GF pay mind too. Also GF could just be deciding to do new things which in the world of entertainment is something that needs to be done. :) Though we will know soon. I feel once we get real news it will be relief for all in a way lol

Poke_Spirit February 26th, 2016 4:37 AM

Don't u think 5 minutes are few?
Nintedo direct:" ...And now with our long awaited major 20th anniversary announcement.. Oh Sh8! Timeu is Overu.."

Nekaku February 26th, 2016 4:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poke_Spirit (Post 9134704)
Don't u think 5 minutes are few?
Nintedo direct:" ...And now with our long awaited major 20th anniversary announcement.. Oh Sh8! Timeu is Overu.."

A good chunk of any direct is them just talking over showing games so here were just trimming the fat and getting to the meat.

Pokemon_Hero February 26th, 2016 4:45 AM

Probably they will reveal only a Logo in 5 minutes and the box art. Might not even things from the game itself

Nekaku February 26th, 2016 4:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokemon_Hero (Post 9134712)
Probably they will reveal only a Logo in 5 minutes and the box art. Might not even things from the game itself

Highly doubt it. Not only is this a Pokemon Direct but one for the 20th anniversary. Sure they can get away doing that on those Pokemon hour weekly shows they do but that is a series. I can see them getting a lot of hate if that was all they did. Only one game has been shown in a Pokemon Direct and it was a darn good trailer and that was not even an anniversary. I mean I get people not hyping to not be let down but if they did anything less than a legit trailer the hate would be real

janejane6178 February 26th, 2016 5:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9134718)
Highly doubt it. Not only is this a Pokemon Direct but one for the 20th anniversary. Sure they can get away doing that on those Pokemon hour weekly shows they do but that is a series. I can see them getting a lot of hate if that was all they did. Only one game has been shown in a Pokemon Direct and it was a darn good trailer and that was not even an anniversary. I mean I get people not hyping to not be let down but if they did anything less than a legit trailer the hate would be real

Do u know how long till the direct starts and where can I watch it live ? :)

Liberal Army February 26th, 2016 5:25 AM

Another thing to point out:
The Moon and Sun artworks/logos don't have the usual 'TM' symbol in them. This could be because the games haven't been officially trademarked yet and thus preventing Nintendo to add 'TM' to the logo.
Comparison:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Poke_Spirit (Post 9134704)
Don't u think 5 minutes are few?
Nintedo direct:" ...And now with our long awaited major 20th anniversary announcement.. Oh Sh8! Timeu is Overu.."

They told us to check the official website after the Direct has aired, so no matter if the direct shows us only box art, the official site will provide more information like release date and trailer/gameplay footage

Nekaku February 26th, 2016 5:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janejane6178 (Post 9134740)
Do u know how long till the direct starts and where can I watch it live ? :)

1 1/2 hours

You know what would be amazing? Satoshi Tajiri himself hosting the Direct! The man has been MIA for years.

Liberal Army February 26th, 2016 5:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janejane6178 (Post 9134740)
Do u know how long till the direct starts and where can I watch it live ? :)

On the official website, but also several streams on Youtube

Hiatus February 26th, 2016 5:43 AM

Their logo designs seemed to have improved a lot throughout the last couple of generations, in my opinion, haha.

Nekaku February 26th, 2016 5:45 AM

Ohhh assuming MyNintendo has a trophy addition having that for Pokemon would add so much more play time. Or at the very least in game trophies like BW2. That was a cool feature.

Jessie February 26th, 2016 6:02 AM

Guys. Guys. Guys. Hey you guys.

1 hour.

Famon February 26th, 2016 6:02 AM

If that list is real then I'm interest in the Angel Pokemon.
Off course , Game-freak need to introduce more horse pokemon.
I mean , How possibly there only one specie of Horse in entire Pokemon universe.

Nekaku February 26th, 2016 6:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessie (Post 9134772)
Guys. Guys. Guys. Hey you guys.

1 hour.

Where is James? (JK) I am very nervous tbh

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 26th, 2016 7:01 AM

It started. NOW
GET HYPED

NO video...

destinedjagold February 26th, 2016 7:08 AM

...WELP!

...Y-yeah, I got nothing. I'm still collecting my brain cells after I got mindblown...

janejane6178 February 26th, 2016 7:09 AM

Omg Im shocked NO Z?????????????
but no footage??

Nekaku February 26th, 2016 7:10 AM

The main site may have info since it said to check back later. Though the fact the Gen 1 games can connect to Sun and Moon alone is amazing. GF also just destroyed the whole pattern concept. While BW2 could have been a one time thing the fact were only getting one set of Kalos games means they don't give a darn anymore and will do whatever they want.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 26th, 2016 7:11 AM

We still don't know for sure if it's Gen 6 or 7, but it seems like 7 as they went over RG, GS,RS,DP, BW,XY before revealing SM.

janejane6178 February 26th, 2016 7:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9134825)
The main site may have info since it said to check back later. Though the fact the Gen 1 games can connect to Sun and Moon alone is amazing. GF also just destroyed the whole pattern concept. While BW2 could have been a one time thing the fact were only getting one set of Kalos games means they don't give a darn anymore and will do whatever they want.

You think it may be a Kalos related or a new gen?
I dont understand why they make gen last only 3 years?.. Kalos left lots of mysteries and un solved things


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