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Pokemon Daybreak Sun and Twilight Moon would sound better.
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I'm skeptical until tomorrow morning. Pokémon has registered trademarks for tons of titles that were never used (Pokémon Brown, Pokémon Gray) so I'm not jumping the gun on this, despite possibilities.
If, however, it is legitimate then I can already see how it would be a sequel to Kalos. Unused coding for AZ's Floette, the sundial in Anistar, etc. just leaves Kalos feeling unfinished as it is right now. |
Here's the 10 unused trademark of pokemon.
Pocket Monsters: Topaz Pocket Monsters: Tourmaline Pocket Monsters: Moonstone Pocket Monsters: Brown Pocket Monsters: Grey Pocket Monsters: Vermilion Pocket Monsters: Purple Pocket Monsters: Crimson Pocket Monsters: Scarlet And adding Delta Emerald to it. |
Here's the thing, about the un registered trade marks. They don't have logos.
Any trade mark that becomes a game, has a logo like this one. So Sun and Moon is probably real, and being announced tomorrow. |
I can see these being continuations of X and Y.
I want to point something out, in the Pokemon XYZ opening, you see Ash and his pokemon standing, forming what everyone thought was the Arceus symbol, however, looking at Pokemon Sun's logo. It matches the symbol Ash and his pokemon's Shadows form. I think this is probably Gen 6.5 still. If not 6.5 then 7, but is connected to Kalos. |
I just wish news like that would not be leaked. This make most people not even wanting to watch the direct because it got spoiled to them.
Also it seems the trademark came out 3 weeks ago and it's only because of the Direct people started to search about trademark of a new game. |
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After thinking about it, I'm guessing Sun/Moon are going to be X/Y sequels set in a different region or southern kalos.
I do hope i'm wrong though, and we get gen 7 announced. Although I think it'd be cool if Sun/Moon were gen 7, but still tied to X/Y (plot wise). |
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Perhaps Magearna is the mascot of Sun, as it gives out a blinding light in the movie cover. Remember what I said before about legends and new gens? Whenever a new legendary is shown in a movie the next gen games soon follow in that same year. It was the case with Lugia and GS, [email protected] and RS, Manaphy and DP, Mewtwo Y and XY. |
To me Magearna is more tied to the Moon than Sun for some reason.
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Right now, I suspect that this would be a side-series. I mean, while even I have this excitement, we are essentially discussing something one day too early.
If this is a main series, then this would explain why the games are coming out later than I thought. (http://markysheap.tumblr.com/post/123594186483) (...I would be disappointed, though. I wanted to play all of the other Zygarde formes...) |
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I've been thinking...what if they surprise us by announcing Sun and Moon, but before that they announce 'Z'. That way they'll give some closure to Kalos for those who want it, and some hype for those who want something new. It'll be interesting, especially since most are expecting only Sun and Moon. |
pokemon-sunmoon.com
This website is redirecting to the main Pokemon site. Maybe it will go up after the direct? Now, I don't know what to expect from the next Pokemon direct, half expecting Z, and half expecting Sun and Moon. |
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Imagine the mind f**k if sun and moon turned out to be spinoffs..
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Pokemon Sun Moon being spin off like Pokemon Conquest. I can see that.
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Looking at the trademark I found something quite different with those games. They are somehow written PoKéMoN Sun and Moon instead of Pokémon like all the other trademarks.
https://oami.europa.eu/eSearch/#basic/1+1+1+1/50+50+50+50/pok%C3%A9mon |
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Almost 18 hours left... I'm sleeping early tonight to make time go faster {XD}, plus I won't be as sleepy as I was when XY were unveiled. |
I should have added this to my last post, but since it popped up after.
Also, if XY are truly based off Norse Mythology like people suggested a while ago. The Sun and Moon both play a massive role in Norse Mythology with Hati and Skool. |
Also noticed some games were not in the list of trademarks. Why is there no Platinum or Black/White, Black2/White2 or even FireRed/LeafGreen ?
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XY dealt with the some massive weapon of destruction. Maybe Sun and Moon deal with the other country (or continent, can't remember right off the top of my head) that was referenced in XY and tie in Zygrade and the massive weapon even further. Maybe something a long the lines of Ragnarok? Not saying that flying horses and giants will raid the Earth or whatever, but what if the world was on the brink of crisis due to the same weapon being fueled by some Sun/Moon Pokemon..? Thoughts?
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Was it ever explicitly stated anywhere that the region that Kalos was at war with 3,000 years ago was a neighboring region bordering the south or east? Sun/Moon could be more involved with that region, while allowing us to still access Kalos like in XY. I'm probably grasping at straws with this, but that would be pretty neat imo.
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This is now why I think this might be a continuation of Kalos, even if it is a different Gen. It is possible that they turn South Kalos into a different generation. Possibly the Azoth Region. The mascots of the games will probably be based of Hati and Skoll. I don't see anything else being a good mascot for Sun and Moon. |
I'm hoping it's a Kalos part two, with new Pokemon and new region of Kalos opened up. Or, perhaps we learn about the mysterious Couriway Town train station. Strange Souvenier? The intensity........the mystery......tomorrow can't come fast enough.
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What specific time will Nintendo Direct air tomorrow?
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7AM PST and 10AM EST.
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I'm curious if this will extend to a Generation 7 or they will just patch ORAS and XY with some new pokemon in the pokedex?
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Don't think they will ever patch the other games.
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This would be the same for new Megas. They will work in the newer games, but they cannot be transferred or used to old games. |
Yeah, patches just don't happen with these games. I believe that they do this to keep people buying the new games. For example, if they had patched Soul Silver to include all of the newer Pokemon, would you be as motivated to buy new Pokemon games?
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Taking about HG/SS I have to admit they were the prettiest of the games. They were sprites but mixed with 3D while XY and ORAS is very pixely. I wonder if these games will use a different art style.
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What if we get Southern Kalos, but it's split into 2 because of the war in the past, so there is SE Kalos and SW Kalos, referencing the sun rising in the east and setting in the west. The 2 areas could have 1 league combined, with 4 gyms in each half. I know other issues such as evil team, but I'm sure someone creative could develop this idea.
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I love how mysterious and in the dark we are about these games though. I always look forward to these sorts of announcements and the long, slow teasing of new games. |
What if Sun and moon is space? Like literally in space? I remember someone saying Pokemon came from space or at least it was a theory someone had. (In the Pokemon world) Plus wasn't the old rainbow rumor at the end of Gen 5 about it being in space? A space region could truly be something amazing.
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The year is 20XX, another Great Pokemon war has left Planet Earth devastated and destroyed! The survivors of this catastrophe have been sent up into space to live on a colony created by Devon Corporation. They must adjust to life on the Moon but trouble is a foot! Little do they know a group of intergalactic pirates are approaching them. The humans and remaining pokemon must escape the moon and retreat to a nearby planet suitable for humans. However one hero rises up to save humanity. Probably never happen, but I'd be down with pokemon in space. Sun and Moon could bring in more space themes though. |
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Okay so it's time for some comparisons of sun and moon in regards to life vs. death. As others have brought up, there is a sundial in Anistar City, and an NPC there mentions that moondials are a thing, too. So already there is some possible association with Kalos, if not with X & Y themselves.
Usually the sun, with its bright light and warmth, is associated with life. After all, crops and really any living being needs sunlight to live. On the other hand, the colder, dim moon can be associated with death, the necessary end to the cycle of life. What makes this interesting is that in the logos, Sun is associated with warm colors such as red, while Moon has cool blues. Normally this would make a lot of sense--we don't have a blue sun, after all. But if we're associating the sun with life and the moon with death, and taking that a step further and applying it to X & Y, it gets a little messy. The red Pokémon is the Pokémon of death, while alternatively the blue Pokémon is the Pokémon of life. So what could this potentially mean? I'd say there are two possibilities. One would be that they are doing a sort of juxtaposition, where, for instance, Pokémon Moon focuses on the theme of death but its mascot is the Life Pokémon (think of B & W where Reshiram, the Vast White Pokémon, graced the cover of Black Version). Two would be that they're subverting the roles of the sun and moon. After all, a sun too bright and hot could equate to much death. The moon controls the tides which is essentially giving it reign over the water that we all need to survive. An interesting random thing: Team Flare could be associated with the sun. Could there possibly be a new team, perhaps like Team Lunar? Would they be good guys, or bad? Maybe they start off trying to stop Flare but get corrupt along the way? |
According to Forbes, Pokemon Sun and Moon trademarks are fake. So currently I don't know what to trust, nor do I think I will believe anything else until tomorrow.
Edit: They may still be real but it is hard to currently say till tomorrow. |
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I do wonder why they link to the site...but perhaps Sun and Moon were trademarked years ago like Brown and Amethyst. They sound like names they already would have. |
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I remember the last fight with Lysandre has the whole background like we were fighting on the Sun.
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Nintendo may not be happy with this leak... |
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Reggie doesn't tolerate this! |
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And I don't know about magearna being the mascot. That would make it likely volcanion is the sun mascot. Having two mythical legends as cover legends has never happened before. But I guess it could. I think we will get two new legends the use the symbols somewhere in their design. But if it was magearna, it would make Azoth likely, which could be cool to see. |
Here we are, the night before the reveal. I'm definitely going to remember this week for years to come, as it's been . . . quite the week for speculation haha. Back to back, from the Pokemon Niji thing, to the confirmation of a direct, to the leaking of Sun/Moon logo's.
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Would anyone please be able to link me to the leak? I'm so behind on this.
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Type Pokemon Sun and it should appear. |
Kind of feeling the vibe that XY is to "Sun/Moon" (I'll use that for now until Direct tomorrow) as RBY is to GSC. Another generation introduced as well as a "sequal" to the previous installment
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I know there is the whole dark type being evil in Japanese (or something along those lines) thing, but wouldn't these games- if they are sun and moon- be the most befitting for a dark type gym to finally happen. Moreso Pokémon moon than sun, but still.
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12 hours left! Edit: Now it's down to 10 hours and 24 minutes. |
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I read and liked an idea that was posted on reddit. If the next main game that's gonna be announced/released is going to be a generation 7 PKMN game, then he hoped that it would be a gen6.5 kind of game, kinda like how Johto, a gen2 game, felt like a gen1.5 game because its connected to the gen 1 game. :3
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One: They submitted English logos. I don't think they would go to the trouble of creating English logos for a title they might not use. Second one is more key though: Take a look at which office these names are being registered. The spares are all registered at the Japan Patent Office yet these ones have been registered at the Office for Harmonization in the Internal Market. So far, all Pokemon trademarks registered at OHIM have been used in released games. |
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In a way Sun and Moon make great 20th anniversary names. Sun is represented by the color red, sun brings to mind Ho-oh, the red in the logo is reminiscent of Rubies color wise, plus it's associated with life. Moon is being represented by the color blue, it's name brings to mind Lugia, the logo brings to mind sapphires (plus moon is tied to the sea), the moon can represent death. And both bring to mind space (Pearl and Galactic). Now to fit in White and Black... well night is black and day is seen as it's opposite... |
Why would they leak a new generation game?
It's the Z game. Moon and Sun are probably new forms for Xerneas and Yveltal. |
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I will cry tears of joy if one is 3DS and the other is for Wii U like Smash did. While Masuda said he wanted to keep it on handhelds things do change and I would be fine with it. Granted as long as the reveal is solid and the games are good I don't care if it is only 3DS. I just want the games to be worthy of an anniversary and if it is a new gen they don't have to skim on content to make the 3rd version big since if it is a new gen it will prove they gave up on the 3rd game concept. Though I saw someone tweet that they games are going back to sprites. Not sure how truthful that was since it was one random twit (What I call people who tweet) said on it.
All the speculation will end in a few hours so it is both sad and happy. :) One thing I would like to see the series do is make the games connect more. In a plot/story way |
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/runs away edit: Anyway, can anyone tell me where we can watch the direct later? |
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He has a live stream planned. Other Youtubers have one as well |
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https://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct/02-26-2016/ |
Imagine if the games do something insane like make it so Ash is Kalos champion and Alain is an in game friend that helps you on a quest. At this point I'm saying the door is open to anything. 4 or so hours till we get confirmation.
Now as for MP I would love if the concept of linking was used more. With Gen 6 you could battle and trade anywhere. You did not need a pokemon center or a single play for the GTS. Would like a step further where you can meet up with people in real time and do side quests. |
IF these games are 7th Gen games, then isn't it a bit weird to have that this year while A new event has been confirmed for Japan. This event is to distribute Mew in X/Y and OR/AS. All copies of Pokémon Green, Red, Blue and Yellow on the Nintendo eShop in Japan will come with a special Serial Code within the first year of being distributed and the code will be redeemable until March 31st 2017.
Why would they extend this until next year if a new Gen is supposed to come this year (if it happens)? was this ever done before with past Gens? |
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Don't u think 5 minutes are few?
Nintedo direct:" ...And now with our long awaited major 20th anniversary announcement.. Oh Sh8! Timeu is Overu.." |
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Probably they will reveal only a Logo in 5 minutes and the box art. Might not even things from the game itself
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Another thing to point out:
The Moon and Sun artworks/logos don't have the usual 'TM' symbol in them. This could be because the games haven't been officially trademarked yet and thus preventing Nintendo to add 'TM' to the logo. Comparison: Spoiler:
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You know what would be amazing? Satoshi Tajiri himself hosting the Direct! The man has been MIA for years. |
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Their logo designs seemed to have improved a lot throughout the last couple of generations, in my opinion, haha.
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Ohhh assuming MyNintendo has a trophy addition having that for Pokemon would add so much more play time. Or at the very least in game trophies like BW2. That was a cool feature.
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Guys. Guys. Guys. Hey you guys.
1 hour. |
If that list is real then I'm interest in the Angel Pokemon.
Off course , Game-freak need to introduce more horse pokemon. I mean , How possibly there only one specie of Horse in entire Pokemon universe. |
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...Y-yeah, I got nothing. I'm still collecting my brain cells after I got mindblown... |
Omg Im shocked NO Z?????????????
but no footage?? |
The main site may have info since it said to check back later. Though the fact the Gen 1 games can connect to Sun and Moon alone is amazing. GF also just destroyed the whole pattern concept. While BW2 could have been a one time thing the fact were only getting one set of Kalos games means they don't give a darn anymore and will do whatever they want.
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We still don't know for sure if it's Gen 6 or 7, but it seems like 7 as they went over RG, GS,RS,DP, BW,XY before revealing SM.
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I dont understand why they make gen last only 3 years?.. Kalos left lots of mysteries and un solved things |
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