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If Z was a game based not in Kalos but Azoth that would be interesting and way better than a typical 3rd version. Betting the region would be so different than anything so far.
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Hold on, I'm a little confused; is Azoth actually a Pokémon region?
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It's currently unknown what is behind project Azoth, but I'm certain it will become clear in the next game(s). Apparently each letter stands for something, A being for Alpha, O being for Omega and so on.
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I don't think it'll be called Azoth, even if it's another region. Azoth in the anime is only a small kingdom by the sound of the anime summary, most likely a city state.
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I can see a mini region (the size of the Battle areas in DPP) being named after it, but not a whole region. |
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Now I'm not sure if you guys agree, but I actually really enjoy this speculative period of time each time either a new Pokémon game is going to be announced or has been announced and everyone is listing off hopes, wants, leaks (fake or real) and the whole community gets creative and interesting. For me, this is the most exciting time - the hype-building! Although I do have to say, I truly hope a new main series game is announced soon or I will go nutzo! What does everyone feel is a realistic guess as to when a new game might be announced considering all of the official details we have so far? |
According to Serebii they are working on another big project away from Pokemon GO.
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http://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/25226694#p25228276 The original leaker listed it under AZ. Could have sworn one of the translations I saw had AZ tacked onto it as well. |
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Omg I can't believe its March soon and still not single clue about a new game LOL.
At this rate I won't be suprised if we hear something months away from now, if not at all. |
Latest game reveal that's released in the same year (in Japan) might be Emerald which had a reveal in July. Could be Crystal too, but I don't know when that one was announced. So, it's possible. The earliest in the year reveal was XY.
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It is hard to believe something from 4chan, but sometimes they tell the truth.
What makes me weary of it mainly, is how many type combos there are that have been wanted for a while. I will say that some look awesome, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up too much. Not from 4chan. But as I said, it is confirmed that they are working on something big away from Pokemon Go. |
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I guess that the fan base just wanna know what concept the game's gonna have.. me included hehe |
I'm starting to think we will hear something on pokemon day about Z. It makes the most sense at this point.
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On that day Pokemon is taking over the reopening of the Nintendo Store in New York City. Which was remodeled and given a 3rd floor for a huge amount of new merch according to Nintendo. Pokemon is making sure everyone knows about this celebration. Also last time they took over Nintendo World was to either announce diamond and Pearl or showcase it. All I remember is they had a battle between the starters, dialgla, and palkia. So Z is pretty likely then. Also every pokemon title has had a launch party there. |
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Edit: Wait, wrong link, I was actually referring to the other link zoroarkrules25 posted: http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/327934074# |
We aren't all as bad as 4 Chaners.
Well that one was kind of an obvious fake. The first one was more convincing. |
I'm seriously starting to think we'll hear something on the 27th as well. Some people say that would detract attention from the VC releases and the other stuff, but I personally think that wouldn't be the case. Everything happening on the 27th has been getting hype since they were announced back in November, that's more than enough hype to ensure the celebration's success. The announcement of the next game would be an added bonus.
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I seriously doubt that a Direct will take place on the 27th, because that's on a Saturday, and Directs never air on the weekends. I say the 26th is more likely.
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They literally don't even need to show gameplay or anything. Just a title. A title alone would please people.
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This is awesome to be true.. The designs should be I hope if it's real.. |
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I don't think we're gonna have so many new Pokemon, if at all.. |
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Notice the hexagons on the left side of the numbering looks exactly like on perfect zygarde's body..
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https://www.google.jo/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjB_5PCrYTLAhVMBBoKHRVnBmUQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Faminoapps.com%2Fp%2F0ncmt&psig=AFQjCNER3cDe9sqJ3kD9sI6cyowhtgJi1A&ust=1455989251076739
I expect the next two games will be these represented by perfect Zygarde hexagons colors.. X is the darker blue.. Y is the red.. there's an orange and light blue.. the sequels.. Zygarde isn't the next mascot then I guess.. These hexagons orange and light blue from the new dex pic are located below.. probably means the next games will take place in south Kalos.. |
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The fact that Magearna's English name is in that list, but the rest are in Japanese debunks this leak - even if it is very well done. |
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Hype season... I love it, but I also hate it too. Food for thought guys: if it doesn't show up on Serebii, Pokebeach, and Bulbanews, don't believe it. Never, ever believe it if it's from 4chan, 2chan and related websites. |
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Actually this doesn't debunk. That image people keep posting here was made outside of the thread. I was researching this yesterday actually. This was posted in a separate thread then the pokemon list originally. So this would debunk someone's attempt to expand the leak. Which brings up to interesting points: 1) This guy could be legit but was added English names as they are revealed. Probably not though. 2) /he just tried to either give the leak more credit or divulge attention from it. This is most likely it, but it doesn't damage the rumor in anyway. I also makes sense that this is fake, because if you were to group them by where in Kalos they are, it make more sense for it to have the full grouping, which would include old and new pokemon. Quote:
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They could reveal the games title and leave it at that just to reveal pics and stuff in March. I would be fine with a title. It would shut us all up lol. If the game is Pokemon I will eat a moose since if it is Z I would be shocked by how much on the DL this game has been. I am expecting a title nobody saw coming myself.
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I like the names Az and Delta Z myself.
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What if the next game is two separate games? Not just two games like XY that are set in the same region, but something like Legend of Zelda Oracle of Ages/Oracle of Seasons that are somehow "connected"? One game would focus on Southern Kalos. A second would focus on the Azoth Kingdom. You'd have to play both games to get the full storyline, but they would both end up in the same spot. The game would start in Vaniville Town once again, but Calem would go off to Southern Kalos and Serena to the Azoth Kingdom. Calem's job is to find Volcanion, Serena's is to find Magearna. Volcanion is looking for Magearna. So at the end of each of the games, played through the eyes of each player, you'd reach the same spot and have the same endgame conclusion. But they're two separate games. |
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Gonna take another route of speculation that has crossed my mind...
I'm wondering if we should start taking the Strange Souvenir into serious consideration with the reveal of Magearna. I'm not saying that the SS depicts Magearna, but what if those two things are a sign of Gen 7 coming sooner than we thought? If that's the case, then I'm really hoping it follows the Kanto/Johto scenario and then we would still get our Zygarde-centric story that would focus on both the new Gen 7 region and Kalos. Programming-wise, I think it may be doable; they were able to fit Johto and Kanto into HGSS on the DS. The 3DS I imagine has quite a bit more memory space in it than the DS has(don't know if I'm using the right terms, but yeah), so I think it MIGHT be possible to cram Kalos and a Gen 7 region into the new game. Ahh, BUT... what if we get it on the NX instead? Kinda doubting that one because we don't even have a release date for it. They're supposed to talk about it during E3(I almost said E4, lmao) this year, so the speculation will get much more interesting if we don't hear about the new game by then. |
Does anyone have any idea on when NX will be releasing, precisely? If it's sometime this year, I'm quite sure gen seven will wind up being on this console (or, at least I hope!).
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Of course everything for everything is speculation. Till we get told by GF or the big N. Imagine if Masuda is reading this thread and petting his cat while smiling evilly. |
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We'll likely get 'Z' on the 3DS. Around the time that Emerald was coming out there was already speculation about the Ds. |
Anyone think they'll announce Pokemon Z (or what ever they decide to call it) on Feb 27th? The actual 20th anniversary?
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Do we even know anything about this NX thing at all?
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I'm hoping for an announcement on the 27th . If not the 27th, then at least the same week, or week after.
Of course, I can see them not announcing anything just because of R/B hitting the eshop that day. The timing is deff perfect though, and seeing as b2/w2 got announced in feb a few years ago, I can see a similar situation here. A lot of people seem to think a nintendo direct is imminent, and if it happens within the next week, it'd be a perfect time to show a trailer. Jeez . .we're 3-ish months away from it being a year since that silhouette zygarde's form was teased. Lol, I remember saying "I'm sure we'll hear about a new main series game soon! There's no way they'll confirm so many new forms/pokemon/etc without announcing the next game they'll be in" . . .oh how I was wrong. |
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I swear if Z is shown next week I will freak. Full House reboot AND Z in the same weekend?! There has to be a reason why this game is being so mysterious. Idk.... the longer it goes the more I feel Z is anime only and the forms could be anime only too. That or the game gets the forms but they are just in the game and the story won't even focus on Zygarde too much. Idk this whole thing is weird since you would think the anime hype would be closer to the games reveal. Makes me just feel the story of the games will be the new storyline in the anime once the Z arc is done and over with. Masuda is going to kill the fans with the wait. 2099 will be here and we will be old but Masuda will not age a day and reveal the new game :) |
Oh man...Nintendo needs to says something, cause I'm here debating to get a 3DSXL, with either X or Y, or Ruby/Sapphire. Or should I just wait for the Z...
But it's interesting that they waited this long for a potential third game. It would feel like they'd release a brand new generation. But with the anime/movies being released this year, it makes somewhat sense to release this year. Unless they are setting everyone up with disappointment, and mass lackluster. |
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So... this Japanese post on Twitter has been starting to circulate in the fandom:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sunma47/status/701118410877370368 Yes, the photo itself is old, but what's interesting is that specific parts - namely their Pokemon - have been blurred out. It was also posted on the 20th, which was yesterday Western time. Here's a rough translation of what came up on Google Translate: "And, "Pokemon · XY & Z" is, W new developments of the protagonist! This person is also in the studio, tension raised up w. It is surrounded by a veteran, recording of nervous in a good way? Please stay tuned for the coming deployment!" This may be some sort of hint as to what's to come after the Zygarde/Team Flare arc, or the XY&Z season itself. I'm going to play devil's advocate here and throw out a theory: if we actually end up getting a "Gen 6.5" of sorts with a Southern Kalos or new region, this may be hinting at them getting some of those new 'mons in replacement of their current roosters. |
What's with the W? Pokemon W and Z? W is the fourth axis, representing time. If a W and Z were Gen VII it'll be a hint to DP remakes, as the 3rd dimension represents space, and 4th is time. Or maybe Dp remakes for Gen VI.5... would be a surprise...
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I'm perplexed by the "W" as well. IIRC, that's not the only time I've seen a "w" by itself on past Japanese Twitter posts relating to Pokemon; from Masuda and somebody else, maybe TPC but I can't swear to it on that one. It could be the way it comes out translated, I'm not sure. But just for fun, if you flip Complete Zygarde upside-down, it resembles a big "W" somewhat.
EDIT: Ahh... what's this? https://mobile.twitter.com/Junichi_Masuda/status/701561242121416704 Something about Game Freak and something being sold... I didn't quite understand all of it, it comes out kind of cryptic when translated on both Google and Bing. |
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Edit: Considering some of the other words, I think he's saying that they'll be selling stuff in multiple places. We already know they're doing that, so that might be it. |
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Junichi_Masuda/status/701557776921669632 Also he's been counting down to Pokemon Day, which of course is to be expected. |
Good god is this the first time Masuda has been so mysterious? I feel as if he will only reveal the game once people solve the mystery. Where is Scooby Doo when you need him?
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So this other leak has popped up, but it's coming from NeoGAF instead of 4chan. From what I understand, they are extremely strict about posting leaked rumors over there; if you can't provide a reliable source for posting your information, you actually get banned from there. In other words, this leak is probably more viable than something from 4chan, but still a rumor nonetheless:
The Official Future Speculation Thread Pokemon Niji(Rainbow) is listed as a special 20th Anniversary game, and is supposedly coming out during the Fall/Holiday of this year. If this is true, holy crap. It's a singular game, but doesn't really seem to imply that it's a generic 3rd version. The "rainbow" might be a reference to Mega Evolution, since the rainbow spectrum is usually associated with the Mega Evolution symbol-double helix. Rainbows are also associated with beauty, which is Kalos' overall theme. Also, since it's supposedly a special 20th Anniversary edition, I can easily see it being revealed this weekend on Pokemon Day. |
There is a new rumor about Pokemon 20th Ann: Rainbow. Which is suppose to come around around the holidays for 2016. It is supposed to be 3DS, and has one of the largest market budgets for Nintendo 3DS, This could be the 3rd version. It certainly would be a unique way to end XY.
The guy is apparently well know for being legit at revealing Nintendo Game Line Ups. |
Full on 3DS Red/Green/Blue/Yellow/Gold/silver remake or follow on? Hence rainbow. Would be interesting if so.
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I hate how people are saying there running out of title names when that is not true at all. Black and White 2 was called that to show balance and yin/yang and XY was named that to feature the first 3D main games and the 3D planes. So don't get why people saying the titles make no sense. (Not talking about people just people online in general.) Interesting how this is being called an anniversary game. Was DP called that?
As for the reveal http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6ADUtuxBgGI/UffKzlUiswI/AAAAAAAAKUQ/GYeteMbo3X4/s1600/sloth-soon.jpeg |
The fact that Pokemon Rainbow is being referred to as a 20th anniversary game doesn't really tell if it's the third version or another remake of Gen 1 (with hopefully a better pokedex roster).
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nah watch Pokemon Rainbow (if real) will just be another spin-off game or something
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I'm done with the speculations. We all know we're gonna have another spin off etc.
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if it's true, maybe it's a Kanto remake? Or a 7th Generation, like "Rainbow and Dark"...
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A stand-alone game sounds really interesting, I wonder what they would do with it? I would hope they at least incorporate Zygarde's lore into it, without making it a generic 3rd version. I would like to point out that in the XY&Z anime, there hasn't been any indication of Xerneas and Yveltal being part of the plot; it has all been about Zygarde and Mega Evolution. Usually a standard 3rd version has included all 3 Legendaries into the plot, but in the anime Zygarde is like the lone wolf or something.
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Pokémon Niji...well remember Complete Zygarde's "core" it has a lot of colors. It's core is Indigo, Blue, white, orange, and red. Meanwhile it's body has Green and black. The only colors missing are Yellow and Purple of the Rainbow, but I guess Black and White replace them here... Perhaps this game will tie up BWB2W2XYOrAs(and Delta Episode), interestingly those game use the colors on Zygarde. Black,White,Blue, red, orange (?), Indigo, and green. Those games all left loose ends. Edit: The source of the list updated with a note that it's just a code name, something I was starting to think of considering all the other games with Codename: ___. |
Rainbow could be referring to the helix for Megalution. And I do not think they would spend half the 3DS budget on Pokemon Rainbow.
Also, Zygarde's Final Form chest is rainbow. If it is 20th Ann, it could be a game with all of the regions. |
It's kind of interesting that it's being called a 20th anniversary game, it almost mirrors how Yellow was officially called the "Pikachu Edition". If this leak is true, I wonder if this means the possibility of elements from all 6 Generations being implemented into the game, as a special commemorative game.
The feels... this hype train is killing me, put me out of my misery Masuda-san. |
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The game might tie up the plots in some ways. We never knew what became of Cyrus, and the WT's post game might not be canon so we are unsure about Gio, and we all know that B2W2, XY, and OrAs left some loose ends (original Dragon and crazy Ghetsis, Lysandre and Z's relationship to X and Y, and Zinnia). |
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