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Them tying up loose ends to move to maybe HD (NX) would be a smart idea. Could be like GTA where the 3D games and HD games are separate worlds. And while it was said 3DS would still exist that also does not mean NX would not be the new Pokemon home too. Since DS existed along side the 3DS for about two years. We just need a reveal for both NX and the new Pokemon game. It feels like we are running in circles without any official news.
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I've seen theories in the past where people talked about how Z is the 26th letter of the alphabet, and if it were to be released next, it'd be the 26th main game in the series.
Going back to what Sugimori said after X/Y came out, about gen 7 returning to simplicity, then perhaps: "Rainbow" or whatever it ends up being called, is the third Kalos game, but as an anniversary game, will include aspects/characters/etc from every generation so far, almost as sort of a send-off. It would be a poetic way for them to "end" things. Then gen 7 will be a reboot of the franchise. |
Wasn't there the same rumor about XY before announced called it Pokemon Rainbow?
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Aww, flowers come in lots of different colors, just like a rainbow.
If this leak does prove to be true (which, I mean, anyone could guess the name of a game... my friends and I thought B&W would get sequels, and none of us or our uncles works for Nintendo. And there was that one guy on some corner of the Internet who thought the games after X&Y would be called Alpha Ruby and Omega Sapphire...), it could still be a super-mega-enhanced third version of the Kalos games. Keeping my fingers crossed! |
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A standalone game would be interesting. One of the existing six main-series regions with all of the features of Gen 6, but completely independent of XY's and even ORAS's story. Without a counterpart, it'd be standalone and by definition, it wouldn't be a traditional third version or even a sequel like B2W2; it wouldn't start Gen 7. It'd be a true Gen 6.5.
I don't personally see them doing it -it's like a soft reboot of a single generation- but it'd be interesting. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'd like having a Generation 6 game take place in a past region with a Generation 6 story like...an offshoot of Team Flare taking hold of the region and maybe even taking up arms with remnants of the corresponding villain team. The plot could use the new Legendaries as well as that region's underused Legendaries. As for which region, personally, I'd love to bring Orre into the main series, but I'd doubt that. It could even be a two region game with Kalos and the other region! We're past due for another one of those, if you ask me. Kanto: It's been remade pretty recently with HG/SS and we'll be playing it again with the re-release of RBY so I doubt it'd be that one. On the other hand, that maybe part of the rationale of rereleasing: a 20th anniversary game revisiting Kanto with Gen VI features, a brand new story, on the current console. Having everyone play the original could be a reminder of Gen I and even a marketing tool. Team Flare and a new Team Rocket would work well together. Johto: Recently revisited with HG/SS, but since Johto is often the other side of the Kanto coin, it might be interesting to see it paired off with another region (Kalos) this time? Similarly, they could even use all three regions, though I really doubt that might happen. Like with a Gen 6.5 Kanto/Kalos game, Team Flare and Team Rocket would be an interesting pair. Maybe a higher up of Flare wants to use Ho-Oh's rebirth powers similarly to Xerneas' immortality-related powers? Hoenn: I doubt we'd get a Gen 6.5 Hoenn game with a new story/characters after getting a remake in the same generation...but what if that was their plan originally? What if 6.5 functions as an Emerald "remake/sequel" with Kalos and Hoenn under threat together? It could function as both a third version of two pairs as well as a sequel and maybe a standalone game in itself. Sinnoh: Some people are clamoring for a Sinnoh remake so maybe a revisit to Sinnoh instead? I can't imagine they'd remake a DS game as that seems way too recent of a game to be remade so maybe just revisiting it instead? I never played Gen 4 so I don't know how easy it'd be to incorporate Gen 6 into Gen 4 for a fresh story. Unova: In a way, it was revisited in a new way with B2W2 and I can't imagine last gen would be revisited that soon especially such a well-received generation... but perhaps bringing back such a well-received region is the boost that Kalos needs? Those are just my personal thoughts, of course, if 6.5 is supposed to be something non-traditional, but still part of Gen 6. |
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1) There is no way all of these games would be codenamed. At this stage in delvelopment names would be final. 2) Sure the disney art academy game is real, but conveniently they guy delayed the video and commented on this in the description originally. Since it was found on a Linkiden like site( forgot the name), it was in plain sight for awhile. If the guy is faking all the way( not having an unreliable source), then this could be evidence of it. 3) N Stars? Really.... No, not going to happen. J stars is a popular anime fighting game. Nintendo would never copy a name of another game, especially since this wouldn't be a fighting game, so the name couldn't be passed off as homage to it. 4) Pokebank is this gen's poke transfer. It has compatibility with two more unknown games. Since as I said it's this gen's poketransfer, then it be reasonable to assume these other two games are the next two titles in Gen 6. Most Likely meaning we are getting a 3rd game with two titles, like BW2. Therefore Rainbow wouldn't even be possible. But we shall see. With all the new XY merchandise at the Nintendo World Store, I'm almost positive we are getting the 3rd game announced next week at the Pokemon Celebration there. |
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The new one is getting bigger, because it was made with both parties in mind. It works as a party game, but also as a big competitive Nintendo Fighter. Pokken works because there's 720 pokemon, all who would work in smash bros but would never getting in because they aren't mascots or super popular/ promoted. And it was requested for years, so it worked really well. So again, it is possible, but I don't think they would do, especially with Smash bros still being pushed. |
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3) Could be by the same people who made it, just like Pokken is being by the same people as Tekken. 4) I mentioned this before, the pentagon thing was found in the hacking of OrAs or the demo (I forget which), not Pokebank. Besides, Pokebank is meant to be used in the transfer of mons to future generations, not just Generation VI. |
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I think he could have a reliable source, but they could mislead them with info so Nintendo doesn't track them down. 3) True, I didn't think of this. But again, another Nintendo fighter would be a weird and risky move. So I don't think they'd do it. However a Nintendo RPG is something I really want. 4) Pokebank has it to. https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/2mqkt3/with_pokebank_being_datamined_as_we_speak_there/ IT could still be linked to a possible 7th gen( If rainbow is real, maybe it's 7th gen, but I think that's to early) I think it would probably be a 6th gen game though. I still think that the two games are gen 6 ones. If they wanted to make gen 7 on the 3ds, they could always patch pokebank to read it. That be pretty simple to do actually. Quote:
Even if one day he doesn't choose to make it, Nintendo would still probably find someone else to be in charge of it. So Sakurai isn't needed with the game. I think GF have full control over what they do, but they like making pokemon because they got famous off it, and always have ideas for a next game. |
So I guess it's "confirmed" that we're getting a PKMN game this year (Fall-Holiday) other than Pokken and Detective Pikachu games.
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As for Masuda, he's strange. He knows full well what they are doing, but I believe he tries to keep it tight but might have trouble with. He's pretty dedicated to the franchise. I could see him knowing full well what they are doing with Z, but trying to not give hints. Hard to say though. Developers are cryptic or misleading at times. Like Hideo Kamiya. He told fans he wasn't working on a new star fox, and yet he was working on Zero. (this was after it was announced) . So you never know.I do think they plan ahead for next gen, early on though, but they know fans like the 3rd games( as does Nintendo), so they try to make them anyway they can. |
If we get no direct or reveal on PD I will be a bit sad. However we will see. I do wonder if a Direct is this week if it would be shown via a direct or saved for the 27th
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Well guys... that link I posted earlier regarding NeoGAF? One of the moderators confirmed that the list was true:
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=196291403&postcount=115 So yes, we are indeed getting a main series game that's a special 20th Anniversay Edition sometime this fall. And it came straight from the horse's mouth, in other words a Nintendo of America employee. Which means I think the chances of hearing an announcement this weekend drastically went up. |
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If it is legit, why do we have to wait 'till the end of the year?? We've beeb waiting all of 2015 on a new Pokemon game, and now they're torturing us by letting us wait all of 2016 too....
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I think they might do a nice schedule this year, something like this:
February 27: Pokemon Go Release date May 2016: Pokemon Rainbow announcement (Kalos+Kanto) June 2016: E3 NX reveal September 2016: Pokemon Go release November 2016: NX release + 7th generation announcement December 2016: Pokemon Rainbow release July 2017: 7th Generation release (NX) They have a problem with the gap between a released game and the announcement of the next game. So maybe this time they might reveal the next gen before the release of the previous game so they can surprise us. |
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As for waiting for the end of the year it was done in Gen 4 so it is not insane. DP-2006 Sep and Plat in 2008 Sept as for end of the year that could just mean Q4 which is anywhere between Oct 1-Dec 31st. So end of the year should not be taken as Dec in this regard. Though not releasing GO in summer for summer break would be a mistake. Really hope they have it out by summer. |
Would anyone clarify how is it almost confirmed it's called Pokemon Niji?..
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Sorry this is my first post here, but I just needed to say that the amount of BASELESS speculation is beyond ridiculous. Nintendo announced they would change their "market strategy" (however you say it) and they would get into smartphone apps... guess what? They later announced Pokemon GO. That's the ONLY big Pokemon game they'll release this year. It's THAT important for Nintendo. Catching Pokèmon "in real life". Why would they cast a shadow over it with yet another typical Pokèmon handheld game? I don't think they'll anounce anything.
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Pretty sure Miitomo was announced as the first one and they said another is coming soon after. So not sure what you mean. There is also a chance the death of Iwata set them back a bit. I bet MyNintendo would have been out late last year if Iwata was still around. Even if they are still following his plans for the future his death must have set them back in some ways.
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Did they ever say on this being just single or pair games?
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Is there any events this Saturday for a possible reveal?
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@Poke_Spirit This Saturday is International Pokemon Day. Each city in the world that has plans for celebrations are doing different things, so it's hard to tell how those celebrations will announce it or if they will. They all may host a video of sorts and then the official websites would announce it. |
Game freak are probably tired of making games. They need new ideas and it takes time.
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It's why you should still be hesitant of the site. Yes employees go there, but they don't leak legit info often. Oh and again no offense but the mods are often terrible there. That site can literally ban you if they don't like you, or disagree with your opinion. It's pretty stupid tbh. Quote:
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And A side Note: Another reason to cast doubt on this is the codenames. The guy that made the video was just given this info. IF the games were all coming out with in the next few months, they would be way past this stage. Also since code names are so cryptic, it's unlikely that they would codename a pokemon game by color when that's what the series is known for. Also the codenames for the other games make it to obvious for them. Like Tour De City. This was stated to be a big budget game. My guess is this is either some city simulator or a new animal crossing, which seems unlikely for a 3ds. But again we don't know... The code names are just strange. |
Unless if then info given was old info, then perhaps some of those could be off, if true.
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When it comes to all of the speculation that these leaks have spawned, I'm adopting more of a 'wait and see' approach when it comes to source validity. What we've seen so far in terms of possible new information could turn out to be entirely true, completely false, or anywhere in between. Given that SuperMetalDave64 has stated in his videos that he has been participating in the discussions on NeoGAF and appears to be relatively level-headed when it has come to his releasing information, I am, at an intellectual level, tentatively inclined to prepare myself for official verification of at least some parts of his scoop. I will admit, though, that my gut wants a new Pokémon game to be announced by Game Freak alongside any other content Nintendo might choose to showcase in the next Direct, which I can't wait for much longer, even though I haven't really been quite as engaged in the franchise these past couple of generations as I was back in Generations III and IV! In any case, something good is bound to happen soon, right?
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Why some people want all regions?.. just adding World Tournament is enough..
doesn't work anyway.. the elite four would have like lv20 lol.. Two or one game continuation of XY+ that awesome possible leaked new Pokemon list+ PWT+ Emerald Battle Frontier. That's a great 20th anniversary game. |
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Btw, perhaps Pokemon Niji will be two games. Originally GS were called by the codename Pokémon X, and later Pokémon 2. But I think they leaker said it's one...could be misleading if not fake. If it's a pair then perhaps it can be the next generation. |
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Announcing a new game won't kill the hype for Go. The only thing that will kill the hype for it is, in my honest opinion, if they reveal that the microtransactions are just as awful as the ones in Pokémon Picross. Actually, now that I think about it, releasing Go first and then a new main-series game later in the year could actually benefit them far more than I had anticipated. If they use Go to try and broaden the appeal for the series (bringing in new fans and re-capturing old ones), they will then have a bigger potential audience for the upcoming main-series game. It actually works very well in their favor. (And just for the record, although this doesn't affect the argument much, Go isn't the first ever Pokémon app for smartphones. When referring to apps, you have the PokéDex 3D app. With games, you have Pokémon Shuffle Mobile.) |
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I have no idea why you people fail to see this, because it's as clear as 1+1=2. The newest Pokèmon release from NINTENDO is an app that lets people catch Pokèmon in the real world and trade/battle others. How do you not see that no one will give two cents about it if a new "actual" Pokèmon game is released???? |
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Seems like a lose-lose for GO when it comes to it's relation to a new main game. It either gets hated on for not being 'Z' or it is overshadowed by an announcement. Well, actually it seems that it would've been better to have had GO after the next main game. |
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@willprogresivo: During GO's reveal, it's been hinted that it may connect somehow to the main series games. With that said, there's a small chance that it may even be released alongside the new main series game, and work in conjunction with it like how Dream Radar and the Pokewalker worked. But we'll find out next month, they're supposed to show it off at GDC in San Francisco around March 14th.
And no offense dude... but you've been coming off as kind of rude, like you're talking down on us because our speculation doesn't fit with what you think. |
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Wait, since Emerald, Pt, and B2W2 were announced 2,4, and 4 months before their respective releases, an October (I think it's likely to be this month due to Blue's 20th plus XY's 3rd being on this month) would perhaps mean a reveal around summer. Could be an E3 reveal. Remember the tweets I posted of Masuda visiting southern france? Those were from August/September irc. So it seems that they're barely working on 'Z' if they're connected. That would also explain why Niji, if true is likely a codename. |
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And just an FYI, the ground breaking news was the new pokemon Magerna. |
The fact we can obtain every legendary mostly from ORAS(correct me if wrong)..
makes me think the next game is a 7th gen more possible.. |
Just going to put that there.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb-qZB6WAAAJrhe.png https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/702463689471864832 |
And it still has to be considered that the Mythical distributions happening all year are on XYORAS, not any proposed 3rd version or future version. It's unlikely that they want to overshadow that as well. October at the EARLIEST for the next game.
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My guess the Direct will go through the 20 past years of Pokémon (similiar to what Iwata did in XY Direct in 2013) and telling us to celebrate 20 years of Pokémon this year by releasing not only GO and Pokkén, but also a new game for the 3DS; Pokémon Z.
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The direct is only 5 mins so I assume it only will be a a quick thank you and show the game. I swear to god though if this is Z I will be pissed off. Of course my hate will likely disperse in a few hours but the first few hours after the reveal I will be so annoyed. And it is all BW2's fault lol. I was hoping that would try to do a full fledged new story or something unexpected. Plus getting Z would be annoying for me as an anime fan since it would likely mean random fillers till the league and Gen 7. Since if even Z does do a new Flare plot the anime will likely be done with the Z anime arc. I would be cool with Z if it had come out mid or late 2015. But now I want something else if that makes sense. Though since 2014 I did predict Gen 3 remakes in 2014 nothing in 2015 Z as an anniversary game in 2016 and gen 7 in 2017. I was right for the first two and hope the anniversary idea for 2016 happens. I am hoping for a new game but in Kanto and the comparisons with Gen 1 and Gen 6 are very interesting. If the Direct does one thing it will be setting us on a single path to speculate since as of now were on several different paths. Though if it is Z I assume a lot less speculation will happen instead of if it was XY2 or something since we all know it would be a 3rd version. Bring it on Mr.Masuda! |
The direct will be 5 minutes long.
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If they are revealing some new main game there under 5 minutes, I guess this is the ultimate decider of the raging generation wars that had happened many months ago, whether it's a last 6th Gen game, or a 7th Gen game... we shall see indeed. These constant fightings need to be put to an end
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Will have to take a break from watching Fuller House that day to watch the Direct :) |
It will be Pokemon GO for sure. They want to make people watch it before a new gen. Most likely it's not a 7th generation game, nor Z since Z probably won't come until november.
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Actually just realized the reveal will be on Kanto's 20th bday (in Japan) which just keeps me thinking new Kanto game. I jsut hope at long last that building in Vermilion is finished! :) |
I don't think they are gonna make yet another Gen 1 remake. I just don't see it happening with them bringing Red/Blue/Yellow back out.
And I seriously doubt they would reveal Gen 1 remake, a day before the originals were rereleased. I would think that would be a bad marketing strategy. If Rainbow is a thing, it is likely all regions. That is what I am getting from the leak, but it is still yet to be confirmed if it is real. |
5 minutes is long enough to reveal a new game. I wouldn't look too far into it. The Direct when XY was revealed was like 11 minutes but the XY part was like 2 or 3 minutes of the direct, the rest was talking about the history of Pokemon. Also, Gamefreak is heavily promoting the direct, when they aren't in charge of Pokken and spinofss so I slightly doubt it will be on anything like that. Who knows? Guess we have to wait until Feb. 26th at 7 am PST.
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I don't think anyone is leaning towards remakes over games just set in Kanto. Which would work well for a 20th anniversary game. The issue with all regions is how it would be done. Only thing I can see is if it was like GTA and closed areas off and made you do them in a certain order. If all regions were open at once it would be odd since Sinnoh could have level 60s right away. Though I do know Xenoblade and Skyrim have some high level monsters/people early on so idk. just curious how pokemon would do it But yeah 5 mins is more than enough time. Heck ORAS was done in like 30 seconds. A name alone at this point would bring peace to the fandom but with 5 mins I expect a 1 min thank you from Mr.Masuda and the rest for the game. Title and gameplay and maybe even a release date time frame. XY was shown Jan and out Oct,ORAS was shown May and out in Nov though BW 2 was shown Feb and out in June so this could drop any time. |
Maybe you are right. Now I see in the main twitter of nintendo Europe and more nintendo twitters that they post about it.
So it's not GO because GO is not a 3DS/nintendo game. Hoping for the reveal of Z/new generation. |
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Can it be? Is it finally happening?
*starts crying* http://fdzeta.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/_118cae2c89f5feb076647770b9a45b1c_tumblr_nr1mhxtUNw1u0uy1eo1_500.png Does anybody know what specific time it is? Serebii doesn't list AM or PM, and I'm absolutely horrible with military time... used to know from my previous job, but forgot. :3 |
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Aw man, looking at that tweet that announced the direct put the biggest smile on my face. It's finally happening.
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I see no evidence of a new game, however I do see evidence of GO. All I know is FACTS: Pokèmon GO was announced and it's CLEARLY the next-step for Nintendo. They announced they'd get in the smartphone market and shortly after GO was announced. If you ask anyone "hey, what's the next Poèmon game from Nintendo??" the answer is "GO", not "they haven't announced a new game yet". |
Ok guys, Bulbapedia provided this helpful link on their Twitter feed for anybody wanting to know their local time for the Direct:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Pokemon+Direct&iso=20160226T15&p1=136&am=5 Just click on it, and your converted time should automatically show up. Also yeah, this is without a doubt main series related. The last time they had a Pokemon Direct, X/Y was revealed in it. I missed that one live, so I'm gonna make sure that I watch this one(8 AM my time). |
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They could actually throw in one or two extra spin-off trailers in it, actually, if they were all short enough. Unless they intend all 5 minutes to be dedicated to the reveal, in which case, wow, will there be a lot to analyze and speculate over! |
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I will be pissed off if it's a 7th Gen game. Because Gen 6 was one of the weakest made in my opinion.
I don't want to visit Kanto for a 5th time too, we got enough Kanto with Red/Blue/Green/Yellow, Gold/Silver/Crystal, FireRed/LeafGreen and HeartGold/SoulSilver. A sequel or a third game will fix most of the stuff XY missed. |
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I mean, yeah, I'll buy the upcoming game no matter what, and I'll be happy that we're finally getting a new game. But... Really, I'll just be so, so sad if they just drop Kalos the way it is. It's got so much potential, especially story-wise. It really wouldn't be hard after a two-year period to fine-tune the narrative and add in substantial gameplay content. And I'm also getting rather...bored with Kanto, to put it kindly. It doesn't help that whenever Johto is involved Kanto is an obligatory addition, but whenever they throw in Kanto, Johto isn't included. To put it bluntly: I think Kanto is the weakest region, and just having a "new story" with new Gym Leaders won't fix that. Every time we get Kanto, it's always the same but with prettier graphics, and it gets stale after so many trips there. I know it's the 20th anniversary and people want something all-new, but XY was supposed to be that "all-new, fresh experience," and I think it really deserves some proper fine-tuning. I think any sort of follow-up to Kalos (3rd version or sequels, if they feel it's truly appropriate, but as I've said before I'm still crossing my fingers for a 3rd version) would be appropriate for a 20th anniversary title, as long as it was really a full-fledged, enhanced experience. |
SO hyped about the direct! It's definitely a main series game announcement, the one we've all been waiting for for since the Zygarde/Ash Greninja forms were revealed. And hopefully it will finally put an end to the Gen 6/Gen 7 Magearna bickering, haha.
Z/Rainbow/Whatever here we come!!! :) |
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Will, actually the next Pokemon game from Nintendo is Pokken Fighters... at least in terms of release dates. Then it's GO. Also, be careful, you're getting deeper into flame bait territory... |
Ok... I don't think we should be responding to @willprogresivo's posts anymore. I'm starting to think that they're a troll... the only posts they've made after joining this site a couple days ago have done nothing but bash people because of their speculation. I've reported them once already.
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See? What did I tell you guys? Directs only come out on a weekday. I'm not sure how they're going to fit all new information regarding the Gen 1 VC releases, Pokken, Pokémon GO, Detective Pikachu, and the expected third version in under 5 minutes.
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They'll likely focus on only one thing, rather than all those. Pokemon XY's Direct spent like the first nine of the eleven or so minutes talking about the history of Pokemon, and the last two on the games. Perhaps the first three will be a quick summary of the games, perhaps revisiting the special editions of the past (they ignored some of the third versions in the XY Direct, so now would be a good time to go over their additions to the franchise) and then announcing the latest special edition (if that's what we're getting). If we do get a release of 'Z' in June then I can see them announcing Gen VII before years end (Gen IV was announced two months after Emerald, Gen V was announced six months after HgSs, Gen VI was announced seven months after B2W2) or at the start of year 21. |
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