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Nekaku February 22nd, 2016 12:44 PM

Them tying up loose ends to move to maybe HD (NX) would be a smart idea. Could be like GTA where the 3D games and HD games are separate worlds. And while it was said 3DS would still exist that also does not mean NX would not be the new Pokemon home too. Since DS existed along side the 3DS for about two years. We just need a reveal for both NX and the new Pokemon game. It feels like we are running in circles without any official news.

RandomDSdevel February 22nd, 2016 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9129342)
So this other leak has popped up, but it's coming from NeoGAF instead of 4chan. From what I understand, they are extremely strict about posting leaked rumors over there; if you can't provide a reliable source for posting your information, you actually get banned from there. In other words, this leak is probably more viable than something from 4chan, but still a rumor nonetheless:

The Official Future Speculation Thread

Pokemon Niji(Rainbow) is listed as a special 20th Anniversary game, and is supposedly coming out during the Fall/Holiday of this year. If this is true, holy crap. It's a singular game, but doesn't really seem to imply that it's a generic 3rd version. The "rainbow" might be a reference to Mega Evolution, since the rainbow spectrum is usually associated with the Mega Evolution symbol-double helix. Rainbows are also associated with beauty, which is Kalos' overall theme.

Also, since it's supposedly a special 20th Anniversary edition, I can easily see it being revealed this weekend on Pokemon Day.

Yeah, I actually saw that, too, but, for me, it came up while I was watching one of SuperMetalDave64's Nintendo speculation-/news-/rumor-/leak-discussing videos.

firekid115 February 22nd, 2016 12:55 PM

I've seen theories in the past where people talked about how Z is the 26th letter of the alphabet, and if it were to be released next, it'd be the 26th main game in the series.

Going back to what Sugimori said after X/Y came out, about gen 7 returning to simplicity, then perhaps:

"Rainbow" or whatever it ends up being called, is the third Kalos game, but as an anniversary game, will include aspects/characters/etc from every generation so far, almost as sort of a send-off. It would be a poetic way for them to "end" things.

Then gen 7 will be a reboot of the franchise.

Poke_Spirit February 22nd, 2016 1:05 PM

Wasn't there the same rumor about XY before announced called it Pokemon Rainbow?

Z25 February 22nd, 2016 1:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Poke_Spirit (Post 9129707)
Wasn't there the same rumor about XY before announced called it Pokemon Rainbow?

yes which is why I call bull on this guy:
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=193851

This guy is so full of it, it's not even funny...

Rivvon February 22nd, 2016 1:52 PM

Aww, flowers come in lots of different colors, just like a rainbow.

If this leak does prove to be true (which, I mean, anyone could guess the name of a game... my friends and I thought B&W would get sequels, and none of us or our uncles works for Nintendo. And there was that one guy on some corner of the Internet who thought the games after X&Y would be called Alpha Ruby and Omega Sapphire...), it could still be a super-mega-enhanced third version of the Kalos games. Keeping my fingers crossed!

Pinkie-Dawn February 22nd, 2016 2:09 PM

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Originally Posted by zoroarkrules25 (Post 9129708)
yes which is why I call bull on this guy:
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=193851

This guy is so full of it, it's not even funny...

Both this guy and SuperMetalDave64 are leakers we cannot trust one bit. This comment I read said it best:

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Didn't you hear? YouTubers who provide absolutely no credentials are the most reliable source in the industry, and developers risk their livelihoods revealing information about top secret projects all the time!

LilBueno February 22nd, 2016 2:25 PM

A standalone game would be interesting. One of the existing six main-series regions with all of the features of Gen 6, but completely independent of XY's and even ORAS's story. Without a counterpart, it'd be standalone and by definition, it wouldn't be a traditional third version or even a sequel like B2W2; it wouldn't start Gen 7. It'd be a true Gen 6.5.

I don't personally see them doing it -it's like a soft reboot of a single generation- but it'd be interesting.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I'd like having a Generation 6 game take place in a past region with a Generation 6 story like...an offshoot of Team Flare taking hold of the region and maybe even taking up arms with remnants of the corresponding villain team. The plot could use the new Legendaries as well as that region's underused Legendaries. As for which region, personally, I'd love to bring Orre into the main series, but I'd doubt that. It could even be a two region game with Kalos and the other region! We're past due for another one of those, if you ask me.
Kanto: It's been remade pretty recently with HG/SS and we'll be playing it again with the re-release of RBY so I doubt it'd be that one. On the other hand, that maybe part of the rationale of rereleasing: a 20th anniversary game revisiting Kanto with Gen VI features, a brand new story, on the current console. Having everyone play the original could be a reminder of Gen I and even a marketing tool. Team Flare and a new Team Rocket would work well together.

Johto: Recently revisited with HG/SS, but since Johto is often the other side of the Kanto coin, it might be interesting to see it paired off with another region (Kalos) this time? Similarly, they could even use all three regions, though I really doubt that might happen. Like with a Gen 6.5 Kanto/Kalos game, Team Flare and Team Rocket would be an interesting pair. Maybe a higher up of Flare wants to use Ho-Oh's rebirth powers similarly to Xerneas' immortality-related powers?

Hoenn: I doubt we'd get a Gen 6.5 Hoenn game with a new story/characters after getting a remake in the same generation...but what if that was their plan originally? What if 6.5 functions as an Emerald "remake/sequel" with Kalos and Hoenn under threat together? It could function as both a third version of two pairs as well as a sequel and maybe a standalone game in itself.

Sinnoh: Some people are clamoring for a Sinnoh remake so maybe a revisit to Sinnoh instead? I can't imagine they'd remake a DS game as that seems way too recent of a game to be remade so maybe just revisiting it instead? I never played Gen 4 so I don't know how easy it'd be to incorporate Gen 6 into Gen 4 for a fresh story.

Unova: In a way, it was revisited in a new way with B2W2 and I can't imagine last gen would be revisited that soon especially such a well-received generation... but perhaps bringing back such a well-received region is the boost that Kalos needs?

Those are just my personal thoughts, of course, if 6.5 is supposed to be something non-traditional, but still part of Gen 6.

Z25 February 22nd, 2016 3:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 9129785)
Both this guy and SuperMetalDave64 are leakers we cannot trust one bit. This comment I read said it best:

Agreed. Plus a few more things:

1) There is no way all of these games would be codenamed. At this stage in delvelopment names would be final.

2) Sure the disney art academy game is real, but conveniently they guy delayed the video and commented on this in the description originally. Since it was found on a Linkiden like site( forgot the name), it was in plain sight for awhile. If the guy is faking all the way( not having an unreliable source), then this could be evidence of it.

3) N Stars? Really....

No, not going to happen. J stars is a popular anime fighting game. Nintendo would never copy a name of another game, especially since this wouldn't be a fighting game, so the name couldn't be passed off as homage to it.

4) Pokebank is this gen's poke transfer. It has compatibility with two more unknown games. Since as I said it's this gen's poketransfer, then it be reasonable to assume these other two games are the next two titles in Gen 6. Most Likely meaning we are getting a 3rd game with two titles, like BW2.

Therefore Rainbow wouldn't even be possible.

But we shall see. With all the new XY merchandise at the Nintendo World Store, I'm almost positive we are getting the 3rd game announced next week at the Pokemon Celebration there.

Nekaku February 22nd, 2016 3:24 PM

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Originally Posted by zoroarkrules25 (Post 9129872)
Agreed. Plus a few more things:

1) There is no way all of these games would be codenamed. At this stage in delvelopment names would be final.

2) Sure the disney art academy game is real, but conveniently they guy delayed the video and commented on this in the description originally. Since it was found on a Linkiden like site( forgot the name), it was in plain sight for awhile. If the guy is faking all the way( not having an unreliable source), then this could be evidence of it.

3) N Stars? Really....

No, not going to happen. J stars is a popular anime fighting game. Nintendo would never copy a name of another game, especially since this wouldn't be a fighting game, so the name couldn't be passed off as homage to it.

4) Pokebank is this gen's poke transfer. It has compatibility with two more unknown games. Since as I said it's this gen's poketransfer, then it be reasonable to assume these other two games are the next two titles in Gen 6. Most Likely meaning we are getting a 3rd game with two titles, like BW2.

Therefore Rainbow wouldn't even be possible.

But we shall see. With all the new XY merchandise at the Nintendo World Store, I'm almost positive we are getting the 3rd game announced next week at the Pokemon Celebration there.

Why not exactly? Smash is a party game after all. A Nintendo fighting game in the style of J stars would be pretty awesome. If Pokken was revealed people would likely not expect a Pokemon game made like tekken

Z25 February 22nd, 2016 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9129887)
Why not exactly? Smash is a party game after all. A Nintendo fighting game in the style of J stars would be pretty awesome. If Pokken was revealed people would likely not expect a Pokemon game made like tekken

It is possible, but the thing with smash bros, is, yes it's a party game, but it also has a massive competitive following.

The new one is getting bigger, because it was made with both parties in mind. It works as a party game, but also as a big competitive Nintendo Fighter.

Pokken works because there's 720 pokemon, all who would work in smash bros but would never getting in because they aren't mascots or super popular/ promoted.

And it was requested for years, so it worked really well.

So again, it is possible, but I don't think they would do, especially with Smash bros still being pushed.

Nekaku February 22nd, 2016 4:56 PM

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Originally Posted by zoroarkrules25 (Post 9129920)
It is possible, but the thing with smash bros, is, yes it's a party game, but it also has a massive competitive following.

The new one is getting bigger, because it was made with both parties in mind. It works as a party game, but also as a big competitive Nintendo Fighter.

Pokken works because there's 720 pokemon, all who would work in smash bros but would never getting in because they aren't mascots or super popular/ promoted.

And it was requested for years, so it worked really well.

So again, it is possible, but I don't think they would do, especially with Smash bros still being pushed.

Unless Sakurai is serious about this being the last last one and him not wanting them to make anymore. But yeah it is so soon with Smash Wii U being big still. I do wonder if Sakurai could even refuse them from doing it. I never did get the whole second part concept. like do GF do what Nintendo make them?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 22nd, 2016 4:59 PM

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Originally Posted by zoroarkrules25 (Post 9129872)
Agreed. Plus a few more things:

1) There is no way all of these games would be codenamed. At this stage in delvelopment names would be final.

2) Sure the disney art academy game is real, but conveniently they guy delayed the video and commented on this in the description originally. Since it was found on a Linkiden like site( forgot the name), it was in plain sight for awhile. If the guy is faking all the way( not having an unreliable source), then this could be evidence of it.

3) N Stars? Really....

No, not going to happen. J stars is a popular anime fighting game. Nintendo would never copy a name of another game, especially since this wouldn't be a fighting game, so the name couldn't be passed off as homage to it.

4) Pokebank is this gen's poke transfer. It has compatibility with two more unknown games. Since as I said it's this gen's poketransfer, then it be reasonable to assume these other two games are the next two titles in Gen 6. Most Likely meaning we are getting a 3rd game with two titles, like BW2.

Therefore Rainbow wouldn't even be possible.

But we shall see. With all the new XY merchandise at the Nintendo World Store, I'm almost positive we are getting the 3rd game announced next week at the Pokemon Celebration there.

Is the double negative in 2 purposeful? "not having an unreliable source" can mean "has a reliable source".
3) Could be by the same people who made it, just like Pokken is being by the same people as Tekken.
4) I mentioned this before, the pentagon thing was found in the hacking of OrAs or the demo (I forget which), not Pokebank. Besides, Pokebank is meant to be used in the transfer of mons to future generations, not just Generation VI.

Z25 February 22nd, 2016 6:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9130004)
Is the double negative in 2 purposeful? "not having an unreliable source" can mean "has a reliable source".
3) Could be by the same people who made it, just like Pokken is being by the same people as Tekken.
4) I mentioned this before, the pentagon thing was found in the hacking of OrAs or the demo (I forget which), not Pokebank. Besides, Pokebank is meant to be used in the transfer of mons to future generations, not just Generation VI.

2) No. To explain:

I think he could have a reliable source, but they could mislead them with info so Nintendo doesn't track them down.

3) True, I didn't think of this. But again, another Nintendo fighter would be a weird and risky move. So I don't think they'd do it. However a Nintendo RPG is something I really want.

4) Pokebank has it to.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/2mqkt3/with_pokebank_being_datamined_as_we_speak_there/

IT could still be linked to a possible 7th gen( If rainbow is real, maybe it's 7th gen, but I think that's to early)
I think it would probably be a 6th gen game though. I still think that the two games are gen 6 ones. If they wanted to make gen 7 on the 3ds, they could always patch pokebank to read it. That be pretty simple to do actually.
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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9129999)
Unless Sakurai is serious about this being the last last one and him not wanting them to make anymore. But yeah it is so soon with Smash Wii U being big still. I do wonder if Sakurai could even refuse them from doing it. I never did get the whole second part concept. like do GF do what Nintendo make them?

Hard to tell if this is the last smash bros from sakurai. He says this every game but loves the series. They tried making brawl without him, and when he found out, he asked to be put in charge of it again. He makes every game like it's the last because he doesn't know when they will make another or if they would. I think it's more him just letting the public relieve him after a game ends. He likes to take breaks and then work on other projects.
Even if one day he doesn't choose to make it, Nintendo would still probably find someone else to be in charge of it.

So Sakurai isn't needed with the game. I think GF have full control over what they do, but they like making pokemon because they got famous off it, and always have ideas for a next game.

destinedjagold February 22nd, 2016 6:42 PM

So I guess it's "confirmed" that we're getting a PKMN game this year (Fall-Holiday) other than Pokken and Detective Pikachu games.

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Pokémon 20th Anniversary game “Niji” Japanese translation: “Rainbow”
Source

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 22nd, 2016 6:45 PM

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Originally Posted by zoroarkrules25 (Post 9130137)
2) No. To explain:

I think he could have a reliable source, but they could mislead them with info so Nintendo doesn't track them down.

3) True, I didn't think of this. But again, another Nintendo fighter would be a weird and risky move. So I don't think they'd do it. However a Nintendo RPG is something I really want.

4) Pokebank has it to.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/2mqkt3/with_pokebank_being_datamined_as_we_speak_there/

IT could still be linked to a possible 7th gen( If rainbow is real, maybe it's 7th gen, but I think that's to early)
I think it would probably be a 6th gen game though. I still think that the two games are gen 6 ones. If they wanted to make gen 7 on the 3ds, they could always patch pokebank to read it. That be pretty simple to do actually.


Hard to tell if this is the last smash bros from sakurai. He says this every game but loves the series. They tried making brawl without him, and when he found out, he asked to be put in charge of it again. He makes every game like it's the last because he doesn't know when they will make another or if they would. I think it's more him just letting the public relieve him after a game ends. He likes to take breaks and then work on other projects.
Even if one day he doesn't choose to make it, Nintendo would still probably find someone else to be in charge of it.

So Sakurai isn't needed with the game. I think GF have full control over what they do, but they like making pokemon because they got famous off it, and always have ideas for a next game.

It's possible that the other one will be GO. They said that GO will be linked to the main games (I figure it'll be by trading). The two could also be a place holder as they probably were still trying to figure it out, in the interview where Masuda said that Z would be too predictable he said that they might still make a Z, it depends on the ideas they have. So, it sounds like they hadn't thought ahead. Sometimes I get the impression that GF focuses more on the next Generation games early on, opposed to the remaining games in the Generation.

Z25 February 22nd, 2016 6:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9130160)
It's possible that the other one will be GO. They said that GO will be linked to the main games (I figure it'll be by trading). The two could also be a place holder as they probably were still trying to figure it out, in the interview where Masuda said that Z would be too predictable he said that they might still make a Z, it depends on the ideas they have. So, it sounds like they hadn't thought ahead. Sometimes I get the impression that GF focuses more on the next Generation games early on, opposed to the remaining games in the Generation.

This is possible to. I could see go being pokewalker 2.0. Placeholders are also possible.

As for Masuda, he's strange. He knows full well what they are doing, but I believe he tries to keep it tight but might have trouble with. He's pretty dedicated to the franchise. I could see him knowing full well what they are doing with Z, but trying to not give hints. Hard to say though. Developers are cryptic or misleading at times. Like Hideo Kamiya. He told fans he wasn't working on a new star fox, and yet he was working on Zero. (this was after it was announced) .

So you never know.I do think they plan ahead for next gen, early on though, but they know fans like the 3rd games( as does Nintendo), so they try to make them anyway they can.

Nekaku February 22nd, 2016 8:01 PM

If we get no direct or reveal on PD I will be a bit sad. However we will see. I do wonder if a Direct is this week if it would be shown via a direct or saved for the 27th

Z25 February 22nd, 2016 9:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9130245)
If we get no direct or reveal on PD I will be a bit sad. However we will see. I do wonder if a Direct is this week if it would be shown via a direct or saved for the 27th

Probably pokemon day, but saying to look out for news on Pokemon day in a direct could hype it up.

I don't think we'll see a direct this week. Maybe early march though.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 22nd, 2016 9:44 PM

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Originally Posted by zoroarkrules25 (Post 9130291)
Probably pokemon day, but saying to look out for news on Pokemon day in a direct could hype it up.

I don't think we'll see a direct this week. Maybe early march though.

Well there was this one time I'm recalling in which they announced a Direct at the last minute.

WingsofBliss February 22nd, 2016 10:02 PM

Well guys... that link I posted earlier regarding NeoGAF? One of the moderators confirmed that the list was true:

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=196291403&postcount=115

So yes, we are indeed getting a main series game that's a special 20th Anniversay Edition sometime this fall. And it came straight from the horse's mouth, in other words a Nintendo of America employee.

Which means I think the chances of hearing an announcement this weekend drastically went up.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 22nd, 2016 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9130315)
Well guys... that link I posted earlier regarding NeoGAF? One of the moderators confirmed that the list was true:

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=196291403&postcount=115

So yes, we are indeed getting a main series game that's a special 20th Anniversay Edition sometime this fall. And it came straight from the horse's mouth, in other words a Nintendo of America employee.

Which means I think the chances of hearing an announcement this weekend drastically went up.

It's still possible that some of those games on the list are fakes, it's happened before... but I think there's a chance it's true. I am still wondering if Rainbow is just a codename like the others or the real name...

Pinkie-Dawn February 22nd, 2016 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9130315)
Well guys... that link I posted earlier regarding NeoGAF? One of the moderators confirmed that the list was true:

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=196291403&postcount=115

So yes, we are indeed getting a main series game that's a special 20th Anniversay Edition sometime this fall. And it came straight from the horse's mouth, in other words a Nintendo of America employee.

Which means I think the chances of hearing an announcement this weekend drastically went up.

And watch as the new Pokemon game isn't called Rainbow but instead the expected third version, thus proving that NeoGAF is just as untrustworthy as GameFAQs and other gaming websites that have become nothing but rumor mills. I remember when NeoGAF also leaked Mewtwo, Ridley, Dixie Kong, and Chorus Men after Smash for 3DS was released in Japan and only Mewtwo got in, but as a DLC fighter. Ridley was a stage hazard, and Dixie Kong and Chorus Men never saw the light of day.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 22nd, 2016 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 9130364)
And watch as the new Pokemon game isn't called Rainbow but instead the expected third version, thus proving that NeoGAF is just as untrustworthy as GameFAQs and other gaming websites that have become nothing but rumor mills. I remember when NeoGAF also leaked Mewtwo, Ridley, Dixie Kong, and Chorus Men after Smash for 3DS was released in Japan and only Mewtwo got in, but as a DLC fighter. Ridley was a stage hazard, and Dixie Kong and Chorus Men never saw the light of day.

Well it's possibly a codename. I would like to say that perhaps they inserted some fakes, but one out of four of those being true seems more like guessing. Usually at least half of spiked leaks should be true.

Liberal Army February 23rd, 2016 1:00 AM

If it is legit, why do we have to wait 'till the end of the year?? We've beeb waiting all of 2015 on a new Pokemon game, and now they're torturing us by letting us wait all of 2016 too....
This better be a game with all 6 regions, or else...

Pokemon_Hero February 23rd, 2016 1:21 AM

I think they might do a nice schedule this year, something like this:

February 27: Pokemon Go Release date
May 2016: Pokemon Rainbow announcement (Kalos+Kanto)
June 2016: E3 NX reveal
September 2016: Pokemon Go release
November 2016: NX release + 7th generation announcement
December 2016: Pokemon Rainbow release
July 2017: 7th Generation release (NX)

They have a problem with the gap between a released game and the announcement of the next game. So maybe this time they might reveal the next gen before the release of the previous game so they can surprise us.

Nekaku February 23rd, 2016 4:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokemon_Hero (Post 9130439)
I think they might do a nice schedule this year, something like this:

February 27: Pokemon Go Release date
May 2016: Pokemon Rainbow announcement (Kalos+Kanto)
June 2016: E3 NX reveal
September 2016: Pokemon Go release
November 2016: NX release + 7th generation announcement
December 2016: Pokemon Rainbow release
July 2017: 7th Generation release (NX)

They have a problem with the gap between a released game and the announcement of the next game. So maybe this time they might reveal the next gen before the release of the previous game so they can surprise us.

My biggest issue is NX and Pokemon GF have no skill doing a JRPG on a HD system. And I doubt they would just get away with using the 3DS style on a HD system. However we will see. If it is anything short of Col/GoD I will be upset tbh.

As for waiting for the end of the year it was done in Gen 4 so it is not insane. DP-2006 Sep and Plat in 2008 Sept as for end of the year that could just mean Q4 which is anywhere between Oct 1-Dec 31st. So end of the year should not be taken as Dec in this regard.

Though not releasing GO in summer for summer break would be a mistake. Really hope they have it out by summer.

Poke_Spirit February 23rd, 2016 5:38 AM

Would anyone clarify how is it almost confirmed it's called Pokemon Niji?..

Nekaku February 23rd, 2016 6:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Poke_Spirit (Post 9130600)
Would anyone clarify how is it almost confirmed it's called Pokemon Niji?..

Apparently the list was confirmed and the guy said Rainbow was never the word but it was Niji which was a code name. Like how Wii U was cafe but had nothing to do with an actual cafe. Just a random word they are using. Though people thought Rainbow had some hidden meaning but it was cleared up. To be on the safe side it would be best till wait till Sat since many are predicting that is when the new game will be revealed.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 23rd, 2016 6:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokemon_Hero (Post 9130439)
I think they might do a nice schedule this year, something like this:

February 27: Pokemon Go Release date
May 2016: Pokemon Rainbow announcement (Kalos+Kanto)
June 2016: E3 NX reveal
September 2016: Pokemon Go release
November 2016: NX release + 7th generation announcement
December 2016: Pokemon Rainbow release
July 2017: 7th Generation release (NX)

They have a problem with the gap between a released game and the announcement of the next game. So maybe this time they might reveal the next gen before the release of the previous game so they can surprise us.

If it's a fall release it would likely fall in October. This year is also the 20th anniversary of Japanese Blue, the first third version/extra version, plus XY were also released in that month.

Then a December reveal of Gen VII is possible as Gen IV was announced two months or so after Emerald was out (in Japan), originally slated for 2005 release.

WingsofBliss February 23rd, 2016 7:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Poke_Spirit (Post 9130600)
Would anyone clarify how is it almost confirmed it's called Pokemon Niji?..

The Niji/Rainbow is just a codename at the moment, but the other stuff as far as release dates and it being a special 20th Anniversary Edition seems to check out. Like I had said earlier, NeoGAF are extremely strict about what kind of leaked information gets posted. If the info is fake, the user who posted it gets banned; the latest link that I posted in the previous page is one of the moderators verifying that the list and its source(a Nintendo of America employee) checked out.

willprogresivo February 23rd, 2016 7:27 AM

Sorry this is my first post here, but I just needed to say that the amount of BASELESS speculation is beyond ridiculous. Nintendo announced they would change their "market strategy" (however you say it) and they would get into smartphone apps... guess what? They later announced Pokemon GO. That's the ONLY big Pokemon game they'll release this year. It's THAT important for Nintendo. Catching Pokèmon "in real life". Why would they cast a shadow over it with yet another typical Pokèmon handheld game? I don't think they'll anounce anything.

WingsofBliss February 23rd, 2016 7:42 AM

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Originally Posted by willprogresivo (Post 9130692)
Sorry this is my first post here, but I just needed to say that the amount of BASELESS speculation is beyond ridiculous. Nintendo announced they would change their "market strategy" (however you say it) and they would get into smartphone apps... guess what? They later announced Pokemon GO. That's the ONLY big Pokemon game they'll release this year. It's THAT important for Nintendo. Catching Pokèmon "in real life". Why would they cast a shadow over it with yet another typical Pokèmon handheld game? I don't think they'll anounce anything.

"Baseless"? Zygarde Formes and Magearna say hi...

And Nintendo is not the one who makes the main series games, Game Freak is.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 23rd, 2016 7:49 AM

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Originally Posted by willprogresivo (Post 9130692)
Sorry this is my first post here, but I just needed to say that the amount of BASELESS speculation is beyond ridiculous. Nintendo announced they would change their "market strategy" (however you say it) and they would get into smartphone apps... guess what? They later announced Pokemon GO. That's the ONLY big Pokemon game they'll release this year. It's THAT important for Nintendo. Catching Pokèmon "in real life". Why would they cast a shadow over it with yet another typical Pokèmon handheld game? I don't think they'll anounce anything.

Well, someone from the Pokemon company (I think it might've been the CEO) in a recent interview said that in addition to GO they have another project they're working on, which is likely a main game. Btw, Nintendo isn't counting GO as one of their Smartphone games, as they consider Miitomo the first one announced...so it's likely not part of that larger strategy.

Nekaku February 23rd, 2016 7:55 AM

Pretty sure Miitomo was announced as the first one and they said another is coming soon after. So not sure what you mean. There is also a chance the death of Iwata set them back a bit. I bet MyNintendo would have been out late last year if Iwata was still around. Even if they are still following his plans for the future his death must have set them back in some ways.

ZafirChad February 23rd, 2016 8:53 AM

Did they ever say on this being just single or pair games?

Poke_Spirit February 23rd, 2016 10:03 AM

Is there any events this Saturday for a possible reveal?

WingsofBliss February 23rd, 2016 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ZafirChad (Post 9130774)
Did they ever say on this being just single or pair games?

So far, it's looking like a single game. Whether it's a 3rd version or not is hard to tell at the moment, since Game Freak has surprised us once before with sequels in Gen 5. Hopefully something does get announced this weekend, so that it could either confirm or debunk this.

@Poke_Spirit This Saturday is International Pokemon Day. Each city in the world that has plans for celebrations are doing different things, so it's hard to tell how those celebrations will announce it or if they will. They all may host a video of sorts and then the official websites would announce it.

Pokemon_Hero February 23rd, 2016 11:25 AM

Game freak are probably tired of making games. They need new ideas and it takes time.

Z25 February 23rd, 2016 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9130304)
Well there was this one time I'm recalling in which they announced a Direct at the last minute.

True. Directs come any time. We don't see them on weekends though unless it's E3. So anytime between now and Friday could give us one if this was the plan.
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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9130315)
Well guys... that link I posted earlier regarding NeoGAF? One of the moderators confirmed that the list was true:

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=196291403&postcount=115

So yes, we are indeed getting a main series game that's a special 20th Anniversay Edition sometime this fall. And it came straight from the horse's mouth, in other words a Nintendo of America employee.

Which means I think the chances of hearing an announcement this weekend drastically went up.

No offense, but just because mods on neogaf back it, does not make this any more possible. There have been many times neogaf were wrong. Especially with the last smash game... Man all those "credible" people that were all wrong.

It's why you should still be hesitant of the site. Yes employees go there, but they don't leak legit info often.

Oh and again no offense but the mods are often terrible there. That site can literally ban you if they don't like you, or disagree with your opinion. It's pretty stupid tbh.

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9130330)
It's still possible that some of those games on the list are fakes, it's happened before... but I think there's a chance it's true. I am still wondering if Rainbow is just a codename like the others or the real name...

This! We can't guarantee anything yet.
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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 9130364)
And watch as the new Pokemon game isn't called Rainbow but instead the expected third version, thus proving that NeoGAF is just as untrustworthy as GameFAQs and other gaming websites that have become nothing but rumor mills. I remember when NeoGAF also leaked Mewtwo, Ridley, Dixie Kong, and Chorus Men after Smash for 3DS was released in Japan and only Mewtwo got in, but as a DLC fighter. Ridley was a stage hazard, and Dixie Kong and Chorus Men never saw the light of day.

Couldn't agree more! I see this happening to.
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Originally Posted by Poke_Spirit (Post 9130826)
Is there any events this Saturday for a possible reveal?

Yes, the Pokemon company is taking over the newly re built Nintendo Store in New York, for a big celebration for the 20th anniversary. The site says to check back on this day to, so it's likely we will get something.

And A side Note:

Another reason to cast doubt on this is the codenames.

The guy that made the video was just given this info. IF the games were all coming out with in the next few months, they would be way past this stage. Also since code names are so cryptic, it's unlikely that they would codename a pokemon game by color when that's what the series is known for.

Also the codenames for the other games make it to obvious for them.

Like Tour De City.

This was stated to be a big budget game. My guess is this is either some city simulator or a new animal crossing, which seems unlikely for a 3ds. But again we don't know... The code names are just strange.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 23rd, 2016 12:25 PM

Unless if then info given was old info, then perhaps some of those could be off, if true.

willprogresivo February 23rd, 2016 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9130707)
And Nintendo is not the one who makes the main series games, Game Freak is.

Game Freak can literally make 50 complete Pokèmon games and UNLESS Nintendo wants to RELEASE them, it's irrelevant. Game Freak does not release games, Nintendo does. I do not think Nintendo plans on releasing any Pokèmon game for 3DS when they "just" announced the first ever Pokèmon APP for Smartphones. Pokèmon GO is the newest thing. Release a new handheld game and no one will ever talk about GO. That simple.

RandomDSdevel February 23rd, 2016 12:50 PM

When it comes to all of the speculation that these leaks have spawned, I'm adopting more of a 'wait and see' approach when it comes to source validity. What we've seen so far in terms of possible new information could turn out to be entirely true, completely false, or anywhere in between. Given that SuperMetalDave64 has stated in his videos that he has been participating in the discussions on NeoGAF and appears to be relatively level-headed when it has come to his releasing information, I am, at an intellectual level, tentatively inclined to prepare myself for official verification of at least some parts of his scoop. I will admit, though, that my gut wants a new Pokémon game to be announced by Game Freak alongside any other content Nintendo might choose to showcase in the next Direct, which I can't wait for much longer, even though I haven't really been quite as engaged in the franchise these past couple of generations as I was back in Generations III and IV! In any case, something good is bound to happen soon, right?

Nekaku February 23rd, 2016 2:12 PM

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Originally Posted by willprogresivo (Post 9130950)
Game Freak can literally make 50 complete Pokèmon games and UNLESS Nintendo wants to RELEASE them, it's irrelevant. Game Freak does not release games, Nintendo does. I do not think Nintendo plans on releasing any Pokèmon game for 3DS when they "just" announced the first ever Pokèmon APP for Smartphones. Pokèmon GO is the newest thing. Release a new handheld game and no one will ever talk about GO. That simple.

This is a pretty stupid thing to say. We have no idea how GO will play or really anything about it. To assume it will kill the main series is clearly stupid to say. Don't be one of those people that thing mobile is taking over gaming when it really is not. GO could be great and very big but it won't take over the main series. If anything it will coexist from what has been said.

Nah February 23rd, 2016 2:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9130707)
"Baseless"? Zygarde Formes and Magearna say hi...

It's not like he's entirely wrong. We honestly have very little real real information to go off of for anything, and it's been that way for a while..

Poke_Spirit February 23rd, 2016 2:55 PM

Why some people want all regions?.. just adding World Tournament is enough..
doesn't work anyway.. the elite four would have like lv20 lol..

Two or one game continuation of XY+ that awesome possible leaked new Pokemon list+ PWT+ Emerald Battle Frontier. That's a great 20th anniversary game.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 23rd, 2016 2:59 PM

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Originally Posted by willprogresivo (Post 9130950)
Game Freak can literally make 50 complete Pokèmon games and UNLESS Nintendo wants to RELEASE them, it's irrelevant. Game Freak does not release games, Nintendo does. I do not think Nintendo plans on releasing any Pokèmon game for 3DS when they "just" announced the first ever Pokèmon APP for Smartphones. Pokèmon GO is the newest thing. Release a new handheld game and no one will ever talk about GO. That simple.

I think that GO will at least dominate the first half of the year. With a main game being the big thing for the second half. I don't think that GO will get much attention anyways, it's a spin off, even if it is on mobile.

Nekaku February 23rd, 2016 4:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Poke_Spirit (Post 9131100)
Why some people want all regions?.. just adding World Tournament is enough..
doesn't work anyway.. the elite four would have like lv20 lol..

Two or one game continuation of XY+ that awesome possible leaked new Pokemon list+ PWT+ Emerald Battle Frontier. That's a great 20th anniversary game.

I would rather have a stand alone game myself for the 20th over a follow up to XY. Would be interesting to see the first gen with no 3rd game

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 23rd, 2016 4:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9131219)
I would rather have a stand alone game myself for the 20th over a follow up to XY. Would be interesting to see the first gen with no 3rd game

Might as well end Gen VI.

Btw, perhaps Pokemon Niji will be two games. Originally GS were called by the codename Pokémon X, and later Pokémon 2. But I think they leaker said it's one...could be misleading if not fake. If it's a pair then perhaps it can be the next generation.

Nekaku February 23rd, 2016 4:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9131234)
Might as well end Gen VI.

Btw, perhaps Pokemon Niji will be two games. Originally GS were called by the codename Pokémon X, and later Pokémon 2. But I think they leaker said it's one...could be misleading if not fake. If it's a pair then perhaps it can be the next generation.

I hope the mindset of having to do two of the same region games is destroyed tbh. I would not mind if it was sequels but the concept of 3rd versions seems pretty meh. Almost like a cop out for making the first versions not have as much content. Though it would be very interesting if this new game is stand alone. Would make Gen 6 very diverse. As said a few days ago I would be ok with them making Niji one last hurrah and a full on reboot with Gen 7.

Rivvon February 23rd, 2016 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by willprogresivo (Post 9130950)
Game Freak can literally make 50 complete Pokèmon games and UNLESS Nintendo wants to RELEASE them, it's irrelevant. Game Freak does not release games, Nintendo does. I do not think Nintendo plans on releasing any Pokèmon game for 3DS when they "just" announced the first ever Pokèmon APP for Smartphones. Pokèmon GO is the newest thing. Release a new handheld game and no one will ever talk about GO. That simple.

I don't think that's quite how things would work, to be honest. B2W2 released in 2012, and so did Pokémon Conquest. And both sold well--they weren't actually competing with each other. And Go, being a free-to-play mobile game, will most likely be competing even less with a new main-series game on a Nintendo handheld system. Although they're both Pokémon games, it's almost like comparing apples to oranges. And since, at this rate, it seems likely that Go would release before any new main-series game, it would work out even moreso since Go would release first and therefore people would get it first and not have to worry about it later. And even if it was the other way around, it would still be fine because Go is free-to-play.

Announcing a new game won't kill the hype for Go. The only thing that will kill the hype for it is, in my honest opinion, if they reveal that the microtransactions are just as awful as the ones in Pokémon Picross. Actually, now that I think about it, releasing Go first and then a new main-series game later in the year could actually benefit them far more than I had anticipated. If they use Go to try and broaden the appeal for the series (bringing in new fans and re-capturing old ones), they will then have a bigger potential audience for the upcoming main-series game. It actually works very well in their favor.

(And just for the record, although this doesn't affect the argument much, Go isn't the first ever Pokémon app for smartphones. When referring to apps, you have the PokéDex 3D app. With games, you have Pokémon Shuffle Mobile.)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 23rd, 2016 5:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9131248)
I hope the mindset of having to do two of the same region games is destroyed tbh. I would not mind if it was sequels but the concept of 3rd versions seems pretty meh. Almost like a cop out for making the first versions not have as much content. Though it would be very interesting if this new game is stand alone. Would make Gen 6 very diverse. As said a few days ago I would be ok with them making Niji one last hurrah and a full on reboot with Gen 7.

Personally I think Gen V or IV should've been the last hurrah. This current gen could've been a full reboot. Gen V did include the PWT, which to me seems would've been a nice oath to the characters from Gen 1-5. Or Gen IV which was the last gen to introduce a Japanese based region, not to mention the Gen itself ended with the remakes of what were to be the final games. I feel like they messed up the Gen V reboot as this Gen feels more like a reboot than the previous, despite it being intended as "an evolution" of the franchise.

willprogresivo February 23rd, 2016 8:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9131065)
This is a pretty stupid thing to say. We have no idea how GO will play or really anything about it. To assume it will kill the main series is clearly stupid to say. Don't be one of those people that thing mobile is taking over gaming when it really is not. GO could be great and very big but it won't take over the main series. If anything it will coexist from what has been said.

I fail to see where have I said "Pokèmon GO will kill the main series". Care to point it out? What I'm saying is that if Nintendo wants to sell their Pokèmon GO app, they shouldn't make a main Pokèmon game at the same time. It's pretty simple. Pokèmon GO is the next NEW big thing. Let it be before asking for more OLD things, because if you think a new game will be ground-breaking, you're delusional.

I have no idea why you people fail to see this, because it's as clear as 1+1=2. The newest Pokèmon release from NINTENDO is an app that lets people catch Pokèmon in the real world and trade/battle others. How do you not see that no one will give two cents about it if a new "actual" Pokèmon game is released????

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 23rd, 2016 9:34 PM

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Originally Posted by willprogresivo (Post 9131467)
I fail to see where have I said "Pokèmon GO will kill the main series". Care to point it out? What I'm saying is that if Nintendo wants to sell their Pokèmon GO app, they shouldn't make a main Pokèmon game at the same time. It's pretty simple. Pokèmon GO is the next NEW big thing. Let it be before asking for more OLD things, because if you think a new game will be ground-breaking, you're delusional.

I have no idea why you people fail to see this, because it's as clear as 1+1=2. The newest Pokèmon release from NINTENDO is an app that lets people catch Pokèmon in the real world and trade/battle others. How do you not see that no one will give two cents about it if a new "actual" Pokèmon game is released????

Some people got pissed during the press conference, they had expected them to announce a new main game. The desire for a main game has gotten to the point where some people won't even look at a spin off, instead they see them as delaying the main game(s). If they do delay it because of GO promotion it'll cause their accusations to be vindicated. There's proof of that in our old Third version speculation thread.


Seems like a lose-lose for GO when it comes to it's relation to a new main game. It either gets hated on for not being 'Z' or it is overshadowed by an announcement. Well, actually it seems that it would've been better to have had GO after the next main game.

Pinkie-Dawn February 23rd, 2016 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9131305)
Some people got pissed during the press conference, they had expected them to announce a new main game. The desire for a main game has gotten to the point where some people won't even look at a spin off, instead they see them as delaying the main game(s). If they do delay it because of GO promotion it'll cause their accusations to be vindicated. There's proof of that in our old Third version speculation thread.


Seems like a lose-lose for GO when it comes to it's relation to a new main game. It either gets hated on for not being 'Z' or it is overshadowed by an announcement. Well, actually it seems that it would've been better to have had GO after the next main game.

I've seen the exact opposite with Pokemon GO when it was first announced, where I've seen a lot of positive reception from other websites outside of PC, while they're still waiting for Pokemon Z.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 23rd, 2016 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 9131563)
I've seen the exact opposite with Pokemon GO when it was first announced, where I've seen a lot of positive reception from other websites outside of PC, while they're still waiting for Pokemon Z.

Seems GO is a base breaker, even before it's been released. I do recall that twitter was more positive, but youtube wasn't (well the livestream I had watched).

WingsofBliss February 23rd, 2016 11:22 PM

@willprogresivo: During GO's reveal, it's been hinted that it may connect somehow to the main series games. With that said, there's a small chance that it may even be released alongside the new main series game, and work in conjunction with it like how Dream Radar and the Pokewalker worked. But we'll find out next month, they're supposed to show it off at GDC in San Francisco around March 14th.

And no offense dude... but you've been coming off as kind of rude, like you're talking down on us because our speculation doesn't fit with what you think.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 24th, 2016 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9131598)
@willprogresivo: During GO's reveal, it's been hinted that it may connect somehow to the main series games. With that said, there's a small chance that it may even be released alongside the new main series game, and work in conjunction with it like how Dream Radar and the Pokewalker worked. But we'll find out next month, they're supposed to show it off at GDC in San Francisco around March 14th.

And no offense dude... but you've been coming off as kind of rude, like you're talking down on us because our speculation doesn't fit with what you think.

I have a feeling that GO will be out by late March or early April. Hopefully with it and Pokken out out of the way they'll be able to focus on a new main game (I still think that an April reveal is our best bet for a reveal). I also think it'll be more similar to radar, but that might just be because they're both AR games.

Wait, since Emerald, Pt, and B2W2 were announced 2,4, and 4 months before their respective releases, an October (I think it's likely to be this month due to Blue's 20th plus XY's 3rd being on this month) would perhaps mean a reveal around summer. Could be an E3 reveal. Remember the tweets I posted of Masuda visiting southern france? Those were from August/September irc. So it seems that they're barely working on 'Z' if they're connected. That would also explain why Niji, if true is likely a codename.

Iceshadow3317 February 24th, 2016 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by willprogresivo (Post 9131467)
I fail to see where have I said "Pokèmon GO will kill the main series". Care to point it out? What I'm saying is that if Nintendo wants to sell their Pokèmon GO app, they shouldn't make a main Pokèmon game at the same time. It's pretty simple. Pokèmon GO is the next NEW big thing. Let it be before asking for more OLD things, because if you think a new game will be ground-breaking, you're delusional.

I have no idea why you people fail to see this, because it's as clear as 1+1=2. The newest Pokèmon release from NINTENDO is an app that lets people catch Pokèmon in the real world and trade/battle others. How do you not see that no one will give two cents about it if a new "actual" Pokèmon game is released????

Pokemon Go is so they can compete against Mobile Gaming on phones. You seem to fail to understand that they will bring anything out to make money. Bring a new game and the app out would get them a ton of money. And Pokemon Go would give them a constant flow of income, unlike main series games. But main series games would still give them a massive amount at once.


And just an FYI, the ground breaking news was the new pokemon Magerna.

Poke_Spirit February 24th, 2016 3:25 AM

The fact we can obtain every legendary mostly from ORAS(correct me if wrong)..
makes me think the next game is a 7th gen more possible..

MarinoKadame February 24th, 2016 4:38 AM

Just going to put that there.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb-qZB6WAAAJrhe.png

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/702463689471864832

Juice585 February 24th, 2016 4:41 AM

And it still has to be considered that the Mythical distributions happening all year are on XYORAS, not any proposed 3rd version or future version. It's unlikely that they want to overshadow that as well. October at the EARLIEST for the next game.

Liberal Army February 24th, 2016 5:02 AM

My guess the Direct will go through the 20 past years of Pokémon (similiar to what Iwata did in XY Direct in 2013) and telling us to celebrate 20 years of Pokémon this year by releasing not only GO and Pokkén, but also a new game for the 3DS; Pokémon Z.

Nekaku February 24th, 2016 5:07 AM

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Originally Posted by willprogresivo (Post 9131467)
I fail to see where have I said "Pokèmon GO will kill the main series". Care to point it out? What I'm saying is that if Nintendo wants to sell their Pokèmon GO app, they shouldn't make a main Pokèmon game at the same time. It's pretty simple. Pokèmon GO is the next NEW big thing. Let it be before asking for more OLD things, because if you think a new game will be ground-breaking, you're delusional.

I have no idea why you people fail to see this, because it's as clear as 1+1=2. The newest Pokèmon release from NINTENDO is an app that lets people catch Pokèmon in the real world and trade/battle others. How do you not see that no one will give two cents about it if a new "actual" Pokèmon game is released????

You have no idea what you are talking about. They will offer to separate things. It is like playing a game with VR and not VR or rebuying a PS4 version of a PS3 game it won't hurt anything since people will still go out and get it. GTA V sold like condoms on Valentine's Day yet the next gen version sold very well too.

The direct is only 5 mins so I assume it only will be a a quick thank you and show the game. I swear to god though if this is Z I will be pissed off. Of course my hate will likely disperse in a few hours but the first few hours after the reveal I will be so annoyed. And it is all BW2's fault lol. I was hoping that would try to do a full fledged new story or something unexpected. Plus getting Z would be annoying for me as an anime fan since it would likely mean random fillers till the league and Gen 7. Since if even Z does do a new Flare plot the anime will likely be done with the Z anime arc. I would be cool with Z if it had come out mid or late 2015. But now I want something else if that makes sense. Though since 2014 I did predict Gen 3 remakes in 2014 nothing in 2015 Z as an anniversary game in 2016 and gen 7 in 2017. I was right for the first two and hope the anniversary idea for 2016 happens. I am hoping for a new game but in Kanto and the comparisons with Gen 1 and Gen 6 are very interesting. If the Direct does one thing it will be setting us on a single path to speculate since as of now were on several different paths. Though if it is Z I assume a lot less speculation will happen instead of if it was XY2 or something since we all know it would be a 3rd version. Bring it on Mr.Masuda!

MarinoKadame February 24th, 2016 5:09 AM

The direct will be 5 minutes long.

ZafirChad February 24th, 2016 5:19 AM

If they are revealing some new main game there under 5 minutes, I guess this is the ultimate decider of the raging generation wars that had happened many months ago, whether it's a last 6th Gen game, or a 7th Gen game... we shall see indeed. These constant fightings need to be put to an end

Nekaku February 24th, 2016 5:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ZafirChad (Post 9131798)
If they are revealing some new main game there under 5 minutes, I guess this is the ultimate decider of the raging generation wars that had happened many months ago, whether it's a last 6th Gen game, or a 7th Gen game... we shall see indeed. These constant fighting need to be put to an end

If is a 20th anniversary game I can it being standalone and being the one game people want. Maybe a final game before a full on reboot with Gen 7. If it is XY2 I am guessing the reboot won't happen and Gen 7 would be 3DS too. If it is Z it is just Z XD. Hoping it is the first 2 myself.

Will have to take a break from watching Fuller House that day to watch the Direct :)

Pokemon_Hero February 24th, 2016 6:01 AM

It will be Pokemon GO for sure. They want to make people watch it before a new gen. Most likely it's not a 7th generation game, nor Z since Z probably won't come until november.

It might be a Kanto game. Maybe a Kanto remake + Kalos.

Nekaku February 24th, 2016 6:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokemon_Hero (Post 9131828)
It will be Pokemon GO for sure. They want to make people watch it before a new gen. Most likely it's not a 7th generation game, nor Z since Z probably won't come until november.

It might be a Kanto game. Maybe a Kanto remake + Kalos.

It won't be GO. It was said weeks ago GO will get more info on the 14th of March. Giving more info more than half a month before when they said prior would be silly. Would be like saying FF 15 will get the release date in March and instead releasing the date two weeks prior. Besides GO and a new main game are not even competing so it should not matter. The two will work as one which was stated Day 1.


Actually just realized the reveal will be on Kanto's 20th bday (in Japan) which just keeps me thinking new Kanto game. I jsut hope at long last that building in Vermilion is finished! :)

Iceshadow3317 February 24th, 2016 6:41 AM

I don't think they are gonna make yet another Gen 1 remake. I just don't see it happening with them bringing Red/Blue/Yellow back out.

And I seriously doubt they would reveal Gen 1 remake, a day before the originals were rereleased. I would think that would be a bad marketing strategy.

If Rainbow is a thing, it is likely all regions. That is what I am getting from the leak, but it is still yet to be confirmed if it is real.

kevcrash February 24th, 2016 6:54 AM

5 minutes is long enough to reveal a new game. I wouldn't look too far into it. The Direct when XY was revealed was like 11 minutes but the XY part was like 2 or 3 minutes of the direct, the rest was talking about the history of Pokemon. Also, Gamefreak is heavily promoting the direct, when they aren't in charge of Pokken and spinofss so I slightly doubt it will be on anything like that. Who knows? Guess we have to wait until Feb. 26th at 7 am PST.

Nekaku February 24th, 2016 7:03 AM

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Originally Posted by IcyIce (Post 9131854)
I don't think they are gonna make yet another Gen 1 remake. I just don't see it happening with them bringing Red/Blue/Yellow back out.

And I seriously doubt they would reveal Gen 1 remake, a day before the originals were rereleased. I would think that would be a bad marketing strategy.

If Rainbow is a thing, it is likely all regions. That is what I am getting from the leak, but it is still yet to be confirmed if it is real.


I don't think anyone is leaning towards remakes over games just set in Kanto. Which would work well for a 20th anniversary game. The issue with all regions is how it would be done. Only thing I can see is if it was like GTA and closed areas off and made you do them in a certain order. If all regions were open at once it would be odd since Sinnoh could have level 60s right away. Though I do know Xenoblade and Skyrim have some high level monsters/people early on so idk. just curious how pokemon would do it

But yeah 5 mins is more than enough time. Heck ORAS was done in like 30 seconds. A name alone at this point would bring peace to the fandom but with 5 mins I expect a 1 min thank you from Mr.Masuda and the rest for the game. Title and gameplay and maybe even a release date time frame. XY was shown Jan and out Oct,ORAS was shown May and out in Nov though BW 2 was shown Feb and out in June so this could drop any time.

Pokemon_Hero February 24th, 2016 7:10 AM

Maybe you are right. Now I see in the main twitter of nintendo Europe and more nintendo twitters that they post about it.

So it's not GO because GO is not a 3DS/nintendo game.

Hoping for the reveal of Z/new generation.

Nekaku February 24th, 2016 7:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokemon_Hero (Post 9131901)
Maybe you are right. Now I see in the main twitter of nintendo Europe and more nintendo twitters that they post about it.

So it's not GO because GO is not a 3DS/nintendo game.

Hoping for the reveal of Z/new generation.

I think Z would almost upset a lot of people at this point. Since most are expecting something new and fresh. Z however could do well if they did not make it a 3rd version. Like if Z was in Kalos but did a brand new story. Though at the same time calling it Z might make people think it is just a typical 3rd version and making them skip it even if it was an all new story. Though with that hint months back about flowers I am guessing it has to do with AZ's Floette over Zygarde and if it is Kalos it would be called Pokemon A and Z versions. So Z version would happen but just in a way most did not really see coming. Which could be interesting with a plot following AZ. Would be even more interesting if the game read your XY saved date and somehow kept it going from that point. So you play as Serena/Calem maybe 3 or so months after XY? Idk I just like how BW2 read your BW save file and would like it to be taken further.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 24th, 2016 7:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9131888)
I don't think anyone is leaning towards remakes over games just set in Kanto. Which would work well for a 20th anniversary game. The issue with all regions is how it would be done. Only thing I can see is if it was like GTA and closed areas off and made you do them in a certain order. If all regions were open at once it would be odd since Sinnoh could have level 60s right away. Though I do know Xenoblade and Skyrim have some high level monsters/people early on so idk. just curious how pokemon would do it

But yeah 5 mins is more than enough time. Heck ORAS was done in like 30 seconds. A name alone at this point would bring peace to the fandom but with 5 mins I expect a 1 min thank you from Mr.Masuda and the rest for the game. Title and gameplay and maybe even a release date time frame. XY was shown Jan and out Oct,ORAS was shown May and out in Nov though BW 2 was shown Feb and out in June so this could drop any time.

Third versions/B2W2 in the case of V, usually have short gaps between reveal and release, at least since Emerald (2, Pt: 4, B2W2 4). So, perhaps we'll get a June release, unless if they are introducing new mons.

WingsofBliss February 24th, 2016 7:26 AM

Can it be? Is it finally happening?

*starts crying*

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Does anybody know what specific time it is? Serebii doesn't list AM or PM, and I'm absolutely horrible with military time... used to know from my previous job, but forgot. :3

Nekaku February 24th, 2016 7:32 AM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9131925)
Can it be? Is it finally happening?

*starts crying*

http://fdzeta.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/_118cae2c89f5feb076647770b9a45b1c_tumblr_nr1mhxtUNw1u0uy1eo1_500.png

Does anybody know what specific time it is? Serebii doesn't list AM or PM, and I'm absolutely horrible with military time... used to know from my previous job, but forgot. :3

The official site has it. 10 am est and 7 pst

firekid115 February 24th, 2016 7:57 AM

Aw man, looking at that tweet that announced the direct put the biggest smile on my face. It's finally happening.

Although part of me feels like the 5 minutes could just be them celebrating the franchise in a "Look at what's happened over the years!" sort of thing, but I'm really really really hoping it's finally time for an announcement.

janejane6178 February 24th, 2016 8:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9131921)
Third versions/B2W2 in the case of V, usually have short gaps between reveal and release, at least since Emerald (2, Pt: 4, B2W2 4). So, perhaps we'll get a June release, unless if they are introducing new mons.

Omg yes please, want it to be releaased before my exams period :/

Nekaku February 24th, 2016 8:12 AM

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Originally Posted by firekid115 (Post 9131946)
Aw man, looking at that tweet that announced the direct put the biggest smile on my face. It's finally happening.

Although part of me feels like the 5 minutes could just be them celebrating the franchise in a "Look at what's happened over the years!" sort of thing, but I'm really really really hoping it's finally time for an announcement.

The Serebii guy confirmed they would not bother with that. Plus in a way they have done that with the Super Bowl commercial if you think about it. Both PKMN Directs were main series focused and I would be shocked if this was not. D Pikachu is out of the question since this is a world direct and Japan got it and Pokken I feel if they have any new pokemon they will be unlocked in game as surprises which would be nice. GO is March 14th so that leaves Pokemon Z,Rainbow,W,Mumbo jumbo. (Unless they reveal a new Rumble game....)

Pokemon_Hero February 24th, 2016 8:28 AM

Just look what is going on in the Japanese official site

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/

Pretty huge. Most likely it's a very big game

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9131954)
Both PKMN Directs were main series focused (Unless they reveal a new Rumble game....)

There were 2 pokemon directs? Because I remember only one. The BW game didn't have a direct.

willprogresivo February 24th, 2016 8:30 AM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9131598)
@willprogresivo: And no offense dude... but you've been coming off as kind of rude, like you're talking down on us because our speculation doesn't fit with what you think.

Your speculations are retarded, that's why. You can literally claim "oh, I think Nintendo will release 20 new Pokèmon games, because it's the 20th anniversary", and it wouldn't make any sense. People claimed Gray would come out, it didn't. Saying Z will is the same thing.

I see no evidence of a new game, however I do see evidence of GO. All I know is FACTS: Pokèmon GO was announced and it's CLEARLY the next-step for Nintendo. They announced they'd get in the smartphone market and shortly after GO was announced. If you ask anyone "hey, what's the next Poèmon game from Nintendo??" the answer is "GO", not "they haven't announced a new game yet".

WingsofBliss February 24th, 2016 8:32 AM

Ok guys, Bulbapedia provided this helpful link on their Twitter feed for anybody wanting to know their local time for the Direct:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Pokemon+Direct&iso=20160226T15&p1=136&am=5

Just click on it, and your converted time should automatically show up.

Also yeah, this is without a doubt main series related. The last time they had a Pokemon Direct, X/Y was revealed in it. I missed that one live, so I'm gonna make sure that I watch this one(8 AM my time).

janejane6178 February 24th, 2016 8:35 AM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9131969)
Ok guys, Bulbapedia provided this helpful link on their Twitter feed for anybody wanting to know their local time for the Direct:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Pokemon+Direct&iso=20160226T15&p1=136&am=5

Just click on it, and your converted time should automatically show up.

Also yeah, this is without a doubt main series related. The last time they had a Pokemon Direct, X/Y was revealed in it. I missed that one live, so I'm gonna make sure that I watch this one(8 AM my time).

Omgggg finallyyyy. 2 days later : "a new Pokemon mystery Dungeon". LOL

ZafirChad February 24th, 2016 8:39 AM

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Originally Posted by willprogresivo (Post 9131968)
Your speculations are retarded, that's why. You can literally claim "oh, I think Nintendo will release 20 new Pokèmon games, because it's the 20th anniversary", and it wouldn't make any sense. People claimed Gray would come out, it didn't. Saying Z will is the same thing.

I see no evidence of a new game, however I do see evidence of GO. All I know is FACTS: Pokèmon GO was announced and it's CLEARLY the next-step for Nintendo. They announced they'd get in the smartphone market and shortly after GO was announced. If you ask anyone "hey, what's the next Poèmon game from Nintendo??" the answer is "GO", not "they haven't announced a new game yet".

Wow, you act like you work for GF and simply think you're smarter than all of us by stating things that is only in your own perspective. WE ALL KNOW it won't be called "Z" nor don't even know if we will even see a 7th Gen or still the last game(s) of 6th Gen. and it also states GO will connect to the main series games in some way, why wouldn't they announce a new main games that will CONNECT with GO?

Rivvon February 24th, 2016 8:45 AM

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Originally Posted by IcyIce (Post 9131854)
I don't think they are gonna make yet another Gen 1 remake. I just don't see it happening with them bringing Red/Blue/Yellow back out.

And I seriously doubt they would reveal Gen 1 remake, a day before the originals were rereleased. I would think that would be a bad marketing strategy.

I think the same way. Even if it's a new game but just set in Kanto, it's still odd. Kanto would have to be drastically different for that to work out. Otherwise, it would be like them saying, "Hey guys! Tomorrow you can buy the very original, outdated and glitchy Pokémon games for $10 each...or you can wait a few months and get them all nice and shiny and up-to-date!"
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Originally Posted by Alpha King (Post 9131876)
5 minutes is long enough to reveal a new game. I wouldn't look too far into it. The Direct when XY was revealed was like 11 minutes but the XY part was like 2 or 3 minutes of the direct, the rest was talking about the history of Pokemon. Also, Gamefreak is heavily promoting the direct, when they aren't in charge of Pokken and spinofss so I slightly doubt it will be on anything like that. Who knows? Guess we have to wait until Feb. 26th at 7 am PST.

Yeah, they really only need anywhere from 30 seconds (for a very minor reveal trailer) to a full minute (for something a bit more extensive). I definitely agree that the length of it probably doesn't need to be too much of a concern, but it does make me wonder what they'll be doing/showing for the other 4/4.5 minutes.

They could actually throw in one or two extra spin-off trailers in it, actually, if they were all short enough. Unless they intend all 5 minutes to be dedicated to the reveal, in which case, wow, will there be a lot to analyze and speculate over!

Nekaku February 24th, 2016 9:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokemon_Hero (Post 9131966)
Just look what is going on in the Japanese official site

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/

Pretty huge. Most likely it's a very big game

There were 2 pokemon directs? Because I remember only one. The BW game didn't have a direct.

XY got two one in Jan and one around September




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Originally Posted by willprogresivo (Post 9131968)
Your speculations are retarded, that's why. You can literally claim "oh, I think Nintendo will release 20 new Pokèmon games, because it's the 20th anniversary", and it wouldn't make any sense. People claimed Gray would come out, it didn't. Saying Z will is the same thing.

I see no evidence of a new game, however I do see evidence of GO. All I know is FACTS: Pokèmon GO was announced and it's CLEARLY the next-step for Nintendo. They announced they'd get in the smartphone market and shortly after GO was announced. If you ask anyone "hey, what's the next Poèmon game from Nintendo??" the answer is "GO", not "they haven't announced a new game yet".

Calling people retarded huh? Wow I suggest you delete that comment buddy. Pretty dickish of you to use petty insults just because people don't agree with you. GO is not a Nintendo game. It is Pokemon app made by GameFreak. Only difference between it and the Dream Rader is it a phone app. Everyone else is being a lot more logical than you are. It is obvious you have just joined so I take it you are one of those people who join forums to ruffle feathers and once you are called out you vanish.

willprogresivo February 24th, 2016 9:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ZafirChad (Post 9131975)
Wow, you act like you work for GF and simply think you're smarter than all of us by stating things that is only in your own perspective. WE ALL KNOW it won't be called "Z" nor don't even know if we will even see a 7th Gen or still the last game(s) of 6th Gen. and it also states GO will connect to the main series games in some way, why wouldn't they announce a new main games that will CONNECT with GO?

I don't act like anything other than someone who hasn't seen any evidence to back-up claims of future releases. Go is the only thing Nintendo's releasing as of now. STOP over-thinking this.

Pokemon_Hero February 24th, 2016 9:18 AM

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Originally Posted by willprogresivo (Post 9131996)
I don't act like anything other than someone who hasn't seen any evidence to back-up claims of future releases. Go is the only thing Nintendo's releasing as of now. STOP over-thinking this.

GO has nothing to do with Nintendo of Europe or Nintendo of France, America and Germany.

Why would Nintendo call us to watch a direct of a Smartphone game?

MarinoKadame February 24th, 2016 9:18 AM

I will be pissed off if it's a 7th Gen game. Because Gen 6 was one of the weakest made in my opinion.

I don't want to visit Kanto for a 5th time too, we got enough Kanto with Red/Blue/Green/Yellow, Gold/Silver/Crystal, FireRed/LeafGreen and HeartGold/SoulSilver.

A sequel or a third game will fix most of the stuff XY missed.

Nekaku February 24th, 2016 9:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MarinoKadame (Post 9132005)
I will be pissed off if it's a 7th Gen game. Because Gen 6 was one of the weakest made in my opinion.

I don't want to visit Kanto for a 5th time too, we got enough Kanto with Red/Blue/Green/Yellow, Gold/Silver/Crystal, FireRed/LeafGreen and HeartGold/SoulSilver.

A sequel or a third game will fix most of the stuff XY missed.

Technically you only visited it twice since the remakes are just that remakes not new games. Besides all game series have at least one weak game. I would not be shocked if GF decides to just be random and for the first time skip another game in a new gen. With that said we have less than 48 hours to find our the real answer. Either way whatever is shown some fans will be disappointed.

Poke_Spirit February 24th, 2016 9:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MarinoKadame (Post 9132005)
I will be pissed off if it's a 7th Gen game. Because Gen 6 was one of the weakest made in my opinion.

I don't want to visit Kanto for a 5th time too, we got enough Kanto with Red/Blue/Green/Yellow, Gold/Silver/Crystal, FireRed/LeafGreen and HeartGold/SoulSilver.

A sequel or a third game will fix most of the stuff XY missed.

it could be 7th gen with north kalos revisit like gen2..
Considering every legendary is obtainable from gen6 mostly from ORAS..

Rivvon February 24th, 2016 9:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MarinoKadame (Post 9132005)
I will be pissed off if it's a 7th Gen game. Because Gen 6 was one of the weakest made in my opinion.

I don't want to visit Kanto for a 5th time too, we got enough Kanto with Red/Blue/Green/Yellow, Gold/Silver/Crystal, FireRed/LeafGreen and HeartGold/SoulSilver.

A sequel or a third game will fix most of the stuff XY missed.

Thank you, really. This is exactly how I feel.

I mean, yeah, I'll buy the upcoming game no matter what, and I'll be happy that we're finally getting a new game. But...

Really, I'll just be so, so sad if they just drop Kalos the way it is. It's got so much potential, especially story-wise. It really wouldn't be hard after a two-year period to fine-tune the narrative and add in substantial gameplay content.

And I'm also getting rather...bored with Kanto, to put it kindly. It doesn't help that whenever Johto is involved Kanto is an obligatory addition, but whenever they throw in Kanto, Johto isn't included. To put it bluntly: I think Kanto is the weakest region, and just having a "new story" with new Gym Leaders won't fix that. Every time we get Kanto, it's always the same but with prettier graphics, and it gets stale after so many trips there.

I know it's the 20th anniversary and people want something all-new, but XY was supposed to be that "all-new, fresh experience," and I think it really deserves some proper fine-tuning. I think any sort of follow-up to Kalos (3rd version or sequels, if they feel it's truly appropriate, but as I've said before I'm still crossing my fingers for a 3rd version) would be appropriate for a 20th anniversary title, as long as it was really a full-fledged, enhanced experience.

GreninjAsh February 24th, 2016 9:51 AM

SO hyped about the direct! It's definitely a main series game announcement, the one we've all been waiting for for since the Zygarde/Ash Greninja forms were revealed. And hopefully it will finally put an end to the Gen 6/Gen 7 Magearna bickering, haha.

Z/Rainbow/Whatever here we come!!! :)

Nekaku February 24th, 2016 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GreninjAsh (Post 9132046)
SO hyped about the direct! It's definitely a main series game announcement, the one we've all been waiting for for since the Zygarde/Ash Greninja forms were revealed. And hopefully it will finally put an end to the Gen 6/Gen 7 Magearna bickering, haha.

Z/Rainbow/Whatever here we come!!! :)

Imagine if this confirms Zygarde forms and Ash Grneinja are anime only. I would not really care since I never was board with them being in the game anyway. If they do end up being in the game cool but if not I won't be let down. Decided to just go into this not expecting anything so I won't be let down or anything. Though what if this is NEW 3DS only?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 24th, 2016 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9131954)
The Serebii guy confirmed they would not bother with that. Plus in a way they have done that with the Super Bowl commercial if you think about it. Both PKMN Directs were main series focused and I would be shocked if this was not. D Pikachu is out of the question since this is a world direct and Japan got it and Pokken I feel if they have any new pokemon they will be unlocked in game as surprises which would be nice. GO is March 14th so that leaves Pokemon Z,Rainbow,W,Mumbo jumbo. (Unless they reveal a new Rumble game....)

We had a new rumble last year, a new Ranger is more likely if it were a spin off {:3}. I think it's main game, I don't see them dedicating a Direct for a spin off, but who knows...

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9131993)
XY got two one in Jan and one around September






Calling people retarded huh? Wow I suggest you delete that comment buddy. Pretty dickish of you to use petty insults just because people don't agree with you. GO is not a Nintendo game. It is Pokemon app made by GameFreak. Only difference between it and the Dream Rader is it a phone app. Everyone else is being a lot more logical than you are. It is obvious you have just joined so I take it you are one of those people who join forums to ruffle feathers and once you are called out you vanish.

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Originally Posted by willprogresivo (Post 9131968)
Your speculations are retarded, that's why. You can literally claim "oh, I think Nintendo will release 20 new Pokèmon games, because it's the 20th anniversary", and it wouldn't make any sense. People claimed Gray would come out, it didn't. Saying Z will is the same thing.

I see no evidence of a new game, however I do see evidence of GO. All I know is FACTS: Pokèmon GO was announced and it's CLEARLY the next-step for Nintendo. They announced they'd get in the smartphone market and shortly after GO was announced. If you ask anyone "hey, what's the next Poèmon game from Nintendo??" the answer is "GO", not "they haven't announced a new game yet".

GO is actually being developed by Niantic, it's being published by the Pokemon company, and distributed by Nintendo.

Will, actually the next Pokemon game from Nintendo is Pokken Fighters... at least in terms of release dates. Then it's GO. Also, be careful, you're getting deeper into flame bait territory...

WingsofBliss February 24th, 2016 10:18 AM

Ok... I don't think we should be responding to @willprogresivo's posts anymore. I'm starting to think that they're a troll... the only posts they've made after joining this site a couple days ago have done nothing but bash people because of their speculation. I've reported them once already.

Pinkie-Dawn February 24th, 2016 10:27 AM

See? What did I tell you guys? Directs only come out on a weekday. I'm not sure how they're going to fit all new information regarding the Gen 1 VC releases, Pokken, Pokémon GO, Detective Pikachu, and the expected third version in under 5 minutes.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 24th, 2016 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 9132091)
See? What did I tell you guys? Directs only come out on a weekday. I'm not sure how they're going to fit all new information regarding the Gen 1 VC releases, Pokken, Pokémon GO, Detective Pikachu, and the expected third version in under 5 minutes.

Yeah, I was about to tell you that you were right. As was I about them being announced in short notice, most seem to have expected a week's notice, something they rarely do from the ones I remember.
They'll likely focus on only one thing, rather than all those. Pokemon XY's Direct spent like the first nine of the eleven or so minutes talking about the history of Pokemon, and the last two on the games. Perhaps the first three will be a quick summary of the games, perhaps revisiting the special editions of the past (they ignored some of the third versions in the XY Direct, so now would be a good time to go over their additions to the franchise) and then announcing the latest special edition (if that's what we're getting). If we do get a release of 'Z' in June then I can see them announcing Gen VII before years end (Gen IV was announced two months after Emerald, Gen V was announced six months after HgSs, Gen VI was announced seven months after B2W2) or at the start of year 21.

Nekaku February 24th, 2016 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 9132091)
See? What did I tell you guys? Directs only come out on a weekday. I'm not sure how they're going to fit all new information regarding the Gen 1 VC releases, Pokken, Pokémon GO, Detective Pikachu, and the expected third version in under 5 minutes.

Technically it is going to be Saturday in Japan. As for all those games doubt they will. I see it only for the main game series myself. Gen 1 release was done last direct and the Youtube channel,GO will be next month,Pokken has enough info already and Detective Pikachu won't get attention due to it being a world direct and it being out in Japan already. I will be shocked and a bit mad if this is not a main game. But as was said my Serebii XY was shown in 1 1/2 mins. The rest was just fluff talking about the series. Since it is only 5 mins I can see Mr.Masuda talking about the 20 years and a trailer plus maybe quick details. Also if this is coming sooner rather than later and truly is not a 3rd version but a 20th anniversary I can see him wanting a few mins at least to show why it is a 20th anniversary game. Like what makes it a 20th anniversary game? Just the fact it is out on the 20th anniversary? Or is there more to that?


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