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So there is a claim for a "future release" aside GO itself, and why would they provide more coverage on a Smartphone game and not a game for their own system? I think you're just on the GO Hype Train and are not thinking straight. |
By the way once we get news on the new game in a few days will this thread be gone for a new one with confirmed info or are we still using this one? Just checking
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Well it is on the 20th anniversary, so that's one reason. I think they'll add aspects from the other games. Perhaps they'll bring back special features or story aspects, like travelling with your mons like with Pikachu in Yellow (Amity park in DPP, overworld in HgSS), running into the legendary like in Crystal, Battle Frontier from Emerald? or just the concept, another world/realm, PWT. Those kind of small, but lovable things from the past. Quote:
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I still don't know how they'd properly do an "all regions" game, worrying about scaling and all of that....
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The direct was great news to wake up to!
It's definitely the 3rd game, and it's definitely going to be big. It will only show one game( 5 minutes does not give them time to do another really.) My guess: 1 minute: Welcome by whoever hosts it 2 to 4 minutes in: trailer for 3rd game. 5 minutes: Closing and be sure to stay tuned for more info and to get the VC version of red, blue and yellow. The fact that this is a direct and not them just posting a video, and they want people to see it live, says a lot. This is going to be their big project they teased and will most certainly live up to it's hype! |
You know what if it is a 3rd game in Kalos but is not Z or what anyone expects. I saw someone say Pokemon W here at one point. Maybe a game focusing on a new war? And instead of gym leaders you take down "generals" and Zygarde is used as a secret weapon but you have one and so does the people who began the war. That or AZ plays a much larger role. Though if they do that I guess it would be a sequal? Idk BW2 just moved to expect the unexpected. Like if they change too much people will complain it is not a 3rd version yet if they stay too close some who were not fans of XY will say it was too much like XY. Oh well less than 48 hours till we get answers. These hours will end up killing me.
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As much as I'd like five minutes dedicated to a new game, I don't want to get my hopes up. I'll just take a guess at what I think the Direct's gonna have:
The 1st minute would probably announce some generic 20th anniversary stuff, such as a list of the available event Pokémon distributions, and the upcoming Virtual Console releases. The 2nd minute could be a reveal for the international release of the detective Pikachu game. The 3rd minute would be about Pokkén Tournament; perhaps a new fighter reveal. The 4th minute may have some small bit of information about Pokémon Go. I'm not sure how likely this is, but if there were to be anything about it, it would probably just be something like "Expect some more information around [this timeframe]." If not, they could split this minute to give extra time to the other segments. And the 5th minute would have the big reveal. It's a lot to cram into 5 minutes, but 5 minutes can be a surprisingly long time, especially when game trailers can be as short as 30 seconds. But I mean, as long as all 5 minutes aren't dedicated to the detective Pikachu game or something else like that, I'll be content. |
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And that's very true, I hadn't considered that it was a worldwide Direct. That's fine with me--nothing against the detective Pikachu game, but I'd personally rather get info about other titles right now. Yeah I get what you mean with the "less time to reveal info between now and the supposed release." I do think it's possible for them to dedicate more than a minute to the reveal, and it would make sense if it comes out before Fall--and if they did, that would be so awesome--but again, it's just that I don't want to get my hopes up. I really don't want to feel disappointed by Friday, because that wouldn't be a good way to start the hype train ride. |
After all those months of speculation, all those months of discussion and all those months of shattered hopes, I'm confident we're finally getting our third version this friday.
Game with all regions? Nah 7th gen? Hell no New, innovative third version? Hell yes |
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I doubt GF would go back to the enhanced version after all the praise they got from people with BW2 over a typical Grey and I have to wonder if a simple 3rd version would truly get this kind of hype over a simple trailer out of the blue. I mean Gen 3 remakes were wanted by tons of people and that just got a trailer nobody saw coming. A 3rd version is a lot less demanded and yet a Direct for Pokemon is happening. Not saying that leak about a 20th game is true but the timing is a bit odd. Got the leak on Monday and a Direct the same week. We have about 30 odd hours till the official reveal and I guess all we can do is hope it is something a lot of the fanbase will enjoy. Enhanced versions were fun back when it was a Pokemon thing but now that so much games do enhanced versions the concept s pretty meh. Especially in the day of dlc |
Pokemon.com says to check their website after the conclusion of the Direct.
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This one is definitely getting a lot of hype from all official Twitter accounts and websites. Masuda himself is doing it too, so I highly doubt this is related to any spin-offs or mobile apps. There's also Magearna's reveal a couple weeks ago that we kind of need to keep in mind too. Which reminds me... exactly what kind of game are we gonna get? I don't think we're quite ready to move on to Gen 7 yet, but they wouldn't be making a Pokemon-dedicated Direct for a standard 3rd version "Z" either. The last time we had a Pokemon Direct, it looked at the history of Pokemon and then announced X/Y. Right now, we got the 20th anniversary, Magearna, and Zygarde Formes to play around with. |
I will be so happy if this game is them listening to the fans over the years. Now I know it won't have all the regions or anything but maybe pokemon following you again,good post game and overhaul of the plot. So like no gyms or league. I remember when BW2 was around I thought you would instead fight the 7 sages getting orbs from them to use to unlock Kyurem. The concept may seem like gyms but it would be different. One thing I would love is more difficult puzzles. Like the gym leader puzzles are way too easy.
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Omg I wonder which game its gonna be.. i LOVE following new games news ( not spin off's tho) <3 |
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Yeah, besides the long awaited Hoenn remakes only got a 30 second clip with the names...
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You know let's go with it being a 3rd version with lots of stuff for the 20th anniversary like Kalos 6.5 Pokemon O makes a lot of sense over Z since O is the center where XY meet on a graph and it is the center and the middle is the center while the middle of Gen 6 would truly be 6.5. :)
Though that old rumor about plus and minus is making sense if you want to go with negative and positive numbers on a graph. Maybe for Gen 7? Which is weird since that rumor predicted a hybrid system like the NX is rumored to be.... Interesting. |
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I was thinking about plus and minus earlier. What if it just showed up in the direct? A lot of it's points are interesting and could make for a good 20th anniversary game if touched upon. It incorporates things GF wanted, simplifies the battle system, and more. It could feel like a reboot and love letter to the fans because it gives them things they've wanted. Plus it's been two years since it first popped up, and barely anyone remembers it. If its somehow real, it makes sense that it be on the NX with what we know about it. Perhaps it will launch on Wii U first, then NX? Like Twilight Princess did, and zelda U seems to be doing. It''s still probably fake, but really funny how a lot of it's info makes sense with what we seen them trying to do today. It also could work as a Kalos sequel, if done right and align with the strange souvenir and the statement about how they want the next game after XY to be very different then what we expect. |
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Having the new game on Wii U as a sort of transition to NX would be interesting. Would truly be a 20th anniversary game since people have wanted a Pokemon main game for years. If it was a mix of main series mixed with Col/GoD that could be amazing. Also would let GF have a go at doing a main console HD JRPG before going full fledged with Gen 7. Even if NX is part handheld Vita has shown us handhelds can be on par with home console games. Plus it could be like Kingdom Hearts. How the game has home console and handheld games and they are all canon. |
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Z is a cool name. Could just be Zero (it has a Z!) for double meaning.
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If the Direct does announce a new game (which is most likely the case), I hope said game will have a far bigger post-story game than what we were given with X/Y & ORAS. Perhaps new features to be introduced? (Like the PWT was to B2&W2 or as the Battle Frontier was to Emerald).
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I'm hoping for a BF style post game, maybe some new areas are unlocked post game like how we could visit East Unova in BW only after we defeated Ghetsis.
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I'm not even sure if this would be expecting "too much" but given how similar they made Kalos to Kanto, I think it'd be pretty cool to be able to visit another region for the post game, as a nod to gen 2. I wouldn't be surprised if we were able to revisit Hoenn.
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Perhaps they could re-introduce PokéStar Studios. It would give Diantha something to do, at least.
Actually, I'm thinking now that perhaps early on in the Direct, they may show Magearna and reveal its Typing. Then they'd take it from there, with another new Mythical Pokémon reveal and maybe a Mega or a few if the next game is a third version to XY. |
I think it's safe to assume that the game will most definitely involve Kalos and Zygrade, as the anime has already expanded upon Zygrade in its entirety. We could also be seeing new Mega Evolutions because of this whole "Ash's Geninja" thing, which might just be an unconfirmed Mega Greninja?
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Now it is most likely Z or XY2.
It's not even a secret anymore.. everyone knows it is it. |
I've often wondered...
I know that Zygarde's Pokedex entry says it monitors Kalos' ecosystem, so one would assume it's a Kalos-exclusive Legendary, right? I still strongly feel that we'll have a Zygarde-centered plot, but what if it doesn't just include Kalos? Meh, forget it. I'm all out of speculative diesel fuel for now. One more day left, and we'll all finally be put out of our misery. |
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@the thing about having fan input: Idk I think you're both kind of right. On one hand "too many cooks spoil the broth" in that too many ideas are bound to conflict with each other and just create a big mess (and some people have incredibly wack ideas), but on the other hand there's at least a few widely requested features (like HM removal) that would be safe enough to try. Or at least there's a few features that are widely requested to return (Battle Frontier, Vs Seeker, Pokemon following you, character customization, etc) that they might as well try bringing back.
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As for rom hacks I feel in a way they are better since they are not afraid to try new things. Like i would love GF to drop the usual formula and see how it goes. Maybe for a game after the first gen game. Heck if Z had no gyms and a new feel to it I would be pumped since it would be fresh. Though we only have 26 hours to get hype,let down or meh. So at this point it is the final hours before the grand reveal. |
Just look at the AlphaSapphire Extreme Randomizer. That game is truly amazing. Would rather have had that as remake than the actual OrAs pair we got.
Like Nah already mentioned, Game Freak should take some demands from the community and put them to work, while still doing their own thing. Hell, they could hold polls after thr games' release to see what should be fixed and what not. |
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Sun and Moon might be Kalos. But maybe it IS a new Generation?
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Omg sun and moon? Never expected them to use these names.. Please dont tell me they r skipping gen 6:/
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YES! NO Z! Hug Me Brotha!
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I hope they do and not to bug fans of XY but to prove that we don't need 3rd versions of sequels all the time. In a way I kinda think it is smart since any long running game series has one or two bad games in a series. (Bad as in lacking) Though this could be Kalos 6.5 and maybe Sun and moon is the fall and rise? Like maybe each has a different point of view. One the fall of Kalos years ago and the rise of a new war? |
The only thing I'm mad about is that this potentially ruined the surprise for the Direct. Damn it lol.
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I personally think Sun/Moon ARE Gen 7......but they won't be out until 2017 and there's still the 6.5/3rd version game coming holiday 2016
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Guess its that time of the year when I dust up this account and start getting excited again!
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Sun and Moon could still be place holders. I am still hoping they have a 3rd version or sequels, just so Kalos is the current main game.
If the Direct wasn't announced, it is possible that Rainbow had been found out, so they figured it would be best to go ahead and tell everyone. Sun and Moon could be Gen 7, but I don't think they will come before a 3rd version or sequels. As for making things fresh, I don't want the concept of pokemon to vanish. Gym Badges and what not need to stay because that is what makes pokemon, pokemon. They can just make the games more story based. Maybe instead of gym badges, we have to get 8 metals to be challenged by the evil team or something. If they got rid of gym battles, I don't think pokemon would last much longer. Honestly, I don't see why it needs to be changed if Pokemon is still in the top 3 or 5 of Nintendo titles. And they definitely don't need to take ideas from You-Kai Watch, which has basically fallen off the face of the earth in most places. |
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This is all totally bonkers in an exciting way. So I came up with this crazy idea... what if this is like a mirror to how Gen 2 was to Gen 1? What if these games are a new Generation, but have connections somewhat to Kalos? What if it's the region that AZ fought against in the Kalos War? I'm sorry, but there has to be some way that we'll be able to obtain Zygarde's other Formes. An event would be kind of unfair, depending on the method of distribution; the nearest GameStop from me is like a 2 hour drive. |
Masuda himself tweeting out about the Moon being out while the Sun is up.
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Though the idea of a return to Kalos is very possible since they do have that train in XY |
If Sun and Moon were real...
All I can think of is. Mega Lunatone and Solrock? |
I always thought Lunatone and Solrock were under-utilized. Like....wouldn't you make a sun and moon Pokemon mean a little more than two "throwaway" that don't have evolutions?
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1. I dont like the names: Moon and Sun .. Not so unique. 2. I really hope the main games will have something to do with Kalos lol |
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As I've read through all this speculation and interesting ideas, I think everyone is forgetting something.
I recall some time ago, that there were meant to be 2 games left for Gen VI. I'm not sure exactly where I heard it, but I'm fairly sure that's what was said. Anyway, if this bit is true, then I predict a prequel/sequel kind of thing. I am in full agreement on everything pointing to Z, but if this tidbit is also true, then I think there will also be a Pokémon W, to act as a prequel. Think about this. Ever since BW2, they have been trying to break away from the predictable norm. But one thing I feel they can't do, is leave a generation hanging with no "final version". A prequel would certainly work with what information is currently known. It's something they haven't done, and something most won't see coming. Plus, think about what that could entail. It'd take place during AZ's era, so we'd be in the thick of that war. I don't know if W has any significance as an axis like XYZ, but it could still be important. Plus, I also believe in the Gen 6.5 theory. I basically saw that coming way back when XY was first released. The low number of Pokémon basically gave that away. So my theory is, if the '2 new games' bit is true, then it will be Z in the traditional sense of a 3rd version, and a genuine prequel to show what really happened in the war. So that would easily be a nice way to give us more Pokémon for the current generation, as that is another thing that's never been done before. That way, the generation ends feeling complete, and then we'll really be ready for Gen VII by '17/18 And as for Gen VII, I like this Sun/Moon idea much better then Plus/Minus. To me, that makes much more sense, not to mention sounds cooler |
We don't know if it's real or not. We need to wait a few hours to see if someone finds out finally something.
My feeling: real. My guess: It is Kalos with a Johto-like region (Kanto+Kalos+Johto) |
Whether this is true or fake, Pokemon Sun and Moon clearly debunks the Pokemon Rainbow rumor, which I'll be happy about, because this would teach you a lesson on trusting these kind of rumors.
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Zygarde won't be on the box of the game.. Maybe Xerneas and Yveltal have new forms? Or these are two new legendaries?? |
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As I have said before I hope this concept of Gens is dropped since I feel it limits them and in a way makes fans expect things. Like many were were expecting Z and it seems %90 of a chance of them being let down. Now if the concept of gens was destroyed this would allow people to not go into things with expectations. Also it could give GF more freedom for games. Since they could create new stories in old regions or new regions but not always feel like they need new pokemon. Quote:
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You know that rainbow rumor in away makes sense. Hear me out. Sun and Moon Gold and Silver Gold is Ho-oh who is the rainbow Pokemon. I find how the two leaks in a way coincide to be interesting considering the small gap of time between them. We shall for 22 hours (Give or take) Masuda holds our hopes in his hands. He has too much power. Would be funky if Sun and Moon are mid gen games though.
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Hmmm, how can I put this succinctly...
Even if this is gen 7, we may be getting another game/other games before it. Like, they need to plan these things way in advance, sometimes beginning work on a new game before their current one is 100% completed. If this is gen 7 it could still be some time before we see it. If it's still gen 6, I'd say there are a few options. One is that they're a really, really enhanced, split third version. Like, major retellings of X & Y--the logos use blue and red, similar to X & Y, and the sun and moon can be associated with ideas such as life and death. Alternatively, they could be sequels--not all sequels have to have the number "2" in the title. And they could even be a combination of a third version and sequel. It could even be gen 6 but in a new region--perhaps the region of the man with the artifact? The weird head thing. I can't remember the name and I have to get going to work really soon so I don't have the time to look it up, sorry. You all know what I'm talking about, though. That "I hope you visit my region, soon; we have a really cool Champion and neat facilities" guy. All I know for sure is that I hate leaks. Now I'm worried I'm gonna expect the Direct to give us at the very least the generation and the system, in addition to the names and release window. I don't want to expect too much, but... to be fair, after a two-year development cycle, I think it's reasonable to ask for something good. |
Especially trademarks, it can throw us off when they really announce them, like suddenly we expect Sun and Moon but get 'Z' or something else instead.
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I will be upset if it is New 3DS only. Not because I don't like the idea of New 3DS only games but the fact we have only had one so far when people thought we would be getting more so the New 3DS itself just upsets me lol
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...CAN TOMORROW JUST COME ALREADY?! I am SO CONFUSED by this, and it's making me wonder if the'ye just gonna skip over to 7th Gen already.. I still feel like it's too soon for this.. this doesn't confirm anything,it just made the 6th gen vs 7th Gen ALOT WORSE now
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Joking aside let's go with 6.5 for a minute and assume we get nothing 2017. Meaning Gen 7 is 2018 would GF really release it on GF if NX is out? Even if NX is not a hybrid would they really do it on 3DS assuming we don't get a new handheld at all? Keep in mind Gens seem to last 4 years so by the time Gen 7 ends it would be around 2021. Would 3DS wifi support still be around or would they drop it like DS and Wii got. That is my biggest concern that it would be dropped mid gen and the wifi aspect would be dead. While it may seem I am jumping the gun I am just trying to be prepared for a possible scenario. |
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These trademarks also have actually images and logos, not just a name. Meaning they are a real game.. Also I highly doubt that this isn't what's going to be announced tomorrow. It makes a lot of sense looking at past trademarks. I also doubt it's gen 7. My bet is gen 6.5 is this game, and it takes place in a Kingdom near Kalos. There be new mons, but it will still act as a sequel to Kalos and bring in a new storyline as well. |
Pokemon SUn and Moon remind me of Digmon World Dawn & Dusk which ther name in Japanaese are Digimon Story Sunburst/Digimon Story Moonlight, both their starter digimon lines are based on Sun and Moon.
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IF this is still 6th Gen related, will the sun and moon refer to the two wolves in Norse Mythology,Geri and Freki? Both of them are the reasons for night and day, as the sun and the moon run from them. The day that they catch and devour the sun and the moon will be the start of Ragnarok. And then Perfect Zygarde's chest mouth has cyan and orange, which are the same as the logo's colors, so could this mean it can also stop the two wolves that MIGHT be the mascots for the games?
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Let's see Volcanion may be linked to the Sun and Magearna to the Moon.
Also the previous leaked pokemon list has legendary pokemons revolving around singularity and space themed just like Sun and Moon who are celestial bodies. |
I seen an interesting theory being posted on another website... it had to do with the 2 unused game slots in Pokemon Bank for Gen 6. They had suggested that these games might be those game slots, and even had thrown in the suggestion of Sun being a tie-in game to Y/OR and Moon being a tie-in to X/AS, or vice-versa... yeah, you get the idea right? They explained it better than I could.
Come to think of it, both Kalos and Hoenn have some ties to space... Hoenn's is more prevalant, but Kalos' ties to space has to do with the Anistar Sundial's origin. Interestingly, Sycamore also says it has ties to Megas, Ultimate Weapon, and Legendaries too. |
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Both colors of sun and moon resemble the hexagon color location leaked Pokemon listing " south kalos" also the other hexagon parts of perfect zygarde.. orange and light blue
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Also,the Hex maniac in X and Y mentions this-(Northern Bridge to the sundial)"Did you know that there are moondials too?" There COULD be a moondial in a possible Southern Kalos, and tell more info on how the Sundial in Anistar city exactly relates to Mega evo if we can find the stone thanks to the Sundial at a certain time. Man, speculating too much makes my head hurt..
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