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mew_nani February 11th, 2016 6:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9115067)
While it might be a staple breaking away could end up being a huge help. Lots of people are kinda bored with the rinse and repeat style. But taking them out does not mean it would be a huge jump. Maybe something like boss battles like most JRPGS have. I would be fine with another set of gyms if we get a dark gym after like 17 years XD

They were already attempting to go the RPG route in X and Y so they might as well go full hog. Have a quest that doesn't involve gym badges or beating the Pokemon League. Give us something different.

Also... 17 years? Have we even HAD a Dark type gym yet? I don't think we've ever had a Poison type gym either.

EDIT: wait nevermind forgot about koga and roxie

MarinoKadame February 11th, 2016 6:15 PM

They could try doing something similar to the Digimon Story games, if they want to break out of the gym stuff.

Nekaku February 11th, 2016 6:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MarinoKadame (Post 9115090)
They could try doing something similar to the Digimon Story games, if they want to break out of the gym stuff.

Loving the new one. Like make Lumnoise a central hub city and get missions to go to different parts of Kalos. Maybe make it so it is 5 yrs after XY and Sycamore recruits you to the Kalos Defense Squad which is you Shauna,Tierno,Trevor and the reverse gender that you are. So if you pick the boy Serena is the leader and Calem if you play the girl.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 11th, 2016 7:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9115098)
Loving the new one. Like make Lumnoise a central hub city and get missions to go to different parts of Kalos. Maybe make it so it is 5 yrs after XY and Sycamore recruits you to the Kalos Defense Squad which is you Shauna,Tierno,Trevor and the reverse gender that you are. So if you pick the boy Serena is the leader and Calem if you play the girl.

It'll be interesting to see the old opposite sex rival in a sequel. BW's didn't play a large role outside of the subway.

illumine February 11th, 2016 7:29 PM

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I kinda hope the gym formula is dropped for a few games.
To be fair, given protocol dropping that might make the distance between a main game and a side-game - where such things are more common - a bit more blurred, and they would then have to preserve that artificially, but you doubt they would be that rushed to drop that in order to replace it with another form of what gym leaders represent, such as level bosses, etc. They'd probably want to maintain the journey motif somehow, where the player is allowed to develop with their Pokémon, rather than rushing them into things. After that they can figure something out.

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Also... 17 years? Have we even HAD a Dark type gym yet?
To be fair, as you say, there have been poison-type gyms, including one 'Janine.' Anyway, though, I'm not sure if there's that much of a rush to create a 'Dark-type' Gym, as in a sense not being affiliated with a whole gym does seem appropriate to the type, which for that matter hasn't been given that much development otherwise.

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9115155)
It'll be interesting to see the old opposite sex rival in a sequel. BW's didn't play a large role outside of the subway.

They could start with the Pokémon which most resembles a Digimon.

Famon February 12th, 2016 2:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mew_nani (Post 9114638)
Ah... Ok, correction: MOST people didn't see this coming. XD

Actually , I did see it coming !
Remember , Few moth ago I myself pointed out that more pokemon beside perfect Zygarde might get reveal in future.

shadowmoon522 February 12th, 2016 2:48 AM

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Originally Posted by illumine (Post 9115182)
They could start with the Pokémon which most resembles a Digimon.

http://orig00.deviantart.net/1e4b/f/2011/273/3/2/pokemon_vs_digimon_by_lurocha-d4bejte.png
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-s9zx213aHL8/VZtXFGkLRyI/AAAAAAAAFz8/d7chuwTmZCQ/s640/pokemon_vs_digimon_by_lurocha-d4bej4y.png
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UnYZNq-w8yY/VZtWFLUGbtI/AAAAAAAAFzs/EyUTKa8JbO0/s1600/pokemon_vs_digimon_by_lurocha-d4begpc.png
http://i.imgur.com/8htHgUC.png
http://orig02.deviantart.net/0337/f/2011/273/a/d/pokemon_vs_digimon_by_lurocha-d4bek0f.png
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ile9v2QbQBo/VZtWhQbMLtI/AAAAAAAAFz0/AAQAGD4WuwE/s1600/pokemon_vs_digimon_by_lurocha-d4beixp.png
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0_vTuvDkSWO9NXI4GNiX5_GMY_faztfxWdiCJaOxffsxFqwU27YT_255vXZlvfjoKDJ
http://orig05.deviantart.net/c226/f/2011/273/5/9/pokemon_vs_digimon_by_lurocha-d4beinj.png
http://pm1.narvii.com/5712/ed3cfa7ffa73fa18a23ba5d876d95abffc78a64c_hq.jpg


Hiatus February 12th, 2016 6:09 AM

I actually feel like Heracross' mega-form looks a lot more similar to Kokabuterimon than its original, haha.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 12th, 2016 8:41 AM

Wow...so many...


Anyways, we should get an official announcement by the 14th as usually the official site usually updates a day before Corocoro comes out officially (well at least it's the 14th in the U.S. at the time).

Nekaku February 12th, 2016 9:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9115789)
Wow...so many...


Anyways, we should get an official announcement by the 14th as usually the official site usually updates a day before Corocoro comes out officially (well at least it's the 14th in the U.S. at the time).

Wait official thing for a game?!

WingsofBliss February 12th, 2016 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9115858)
Wait official thing for a game?!


I think he's talking about Magiana. When Zygarde's new Formes debuted in the CoroCoro issue that came out in September, the official Pokémon website in all languages posted the Formes and info about them within a couple days after appearing in CoroCoro.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 12th, 2016 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9115899)
I think he's talking about Magiana. When Zygarde's new Formes debuted in the CoroCoro issue that came out in September, the official Pokémon website in all languages posted the Formes and info about them within a couple days after appearing in CoroCoro.

Well after the leak at least, I don't think that it had officially come out yet when they showed Zygarde on the official site.

When 'Z' is announced I hope they clear up it's status.

Nekaku February 12th, 2016 11:24 AM

The thing about the new game is were all expecting a Direct or something to show it but it could be like ORAS which was just a random trailer out of nowhere with no build up. I guess you could say with the Zygarde forms and Gearcina (My english name for it the new 2016 game has had more build up XD Assuming the forms are in the games and all. I would not be shocked if the dog form and perfect cell are forms but if the small ones are viewed as separate pokemon like Mew and Mewtwo. At least for the games. (I am unsure how they are in the anime since I can't stand the subbed

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 12th, 2016 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9115991)
The thing about the new game is were all expecting a Direct or something to show it but it could be like ORAS which was just a random trailer out of nowhere with no build up. I guess you could say with the Zygarde forms and Gearcina (My english name for it the new 2016 game has had more build up XD Assuming the forms are in the games and all. I would not be shocked if the dog form and perfect cell are forms but if the small ones are viewed as separate pokemon like Mew and Mewtwo. At least for the games. (I am unsure how they are in the anime since I can't stand the subbed

Well that trailer came out after Iwata revealed OrAs at a business brief or some kind of investor related event. I believe they've already had one this month so...yeah, I don't expect it to come from a brief. Maybe a Press Conference like GO, which was announced on the same day they made the event known irc.

The small ones are formes too.

Btw most likely they'll keep Magiana, GF has said that they like keeping the names of legendaries the same in all languages.

Nekaku February 12th, 2016 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9115999)
Well that trailer came out after Iwata revealed OrAs at a business brief or some kind of investor related event. I believe they've already had one this month so...yeah, I don't expect it to come from a brief. Maybe a Press Conference like GO, which was announced on the same day they made the event known irc.

The small ones are formes too.

Btw most likely they'll keep Magiana, GF has said that they like keeping the names of legendaries the same in all languages.

I do wonder if they would do anything on the 27th.

Bounsweet February 12th, 2016 11:53 AM

This reveal with Magiana wasn't surprising to me in the slightest, tbh. GF has been extremely hush-hush lately so it was just a matter of time before something new was revealed.

Also, it isn't Gen VII, lol. I'm like 99.8% confident of that. We've never had a mythical Pokémon reveal as a teaser for the next gen, and while it isn't explicitly stated I think it's pretty obvious considering its relation to Volcanion. People are theorizing that it's Gen VII but related to Gen VI Pokémon, like Regigigas, but Regigigas was a minor legendary as far as storyline and plot goes. This Pokémon has some kind of direct and close relationship with Volcanion - a Gen VI legendary - and we're due to get Z Version very soon. I can most definitely see something going along the lines of either Volcanion or Magiana being an event needed to access an area/trigger a battle with their counterpart in-game - like the Zoroark event with the legendary dogs and whatever else was in Gen V (I don't remember much of it, tbh).

As far as Gen 6.5 is concerned, I'm very doubtful. If anything, we'll just get more Megas for Z Version like what we had with ORAS. We had 28 introduced in XY and 20 introduced in ORAS, that's 48 Megas on top of the 70 Kalos Pokémon - 118 new Pokémon this region. I can easily see them throwing another 20 Megas into the mix when Z Version comes out to bump it up to 138, and calling it a day.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 12th, 2016 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9116002)
I do wonder if they would do anything on the 27th.

They're having several parties that day. Perhaps they'll surprise their guests.

Poke_Spirit February 12th, 2016 9:53 PM

Just looking at the map of kalos feels like there's some missing parts..
http://www.serebii.net/pokearth/kalos.png

colter519 February 12th, 2016 11:07 PM

I just feel that the fact that the third season of the Kalos series of the anime is called XY&Z it seems obvious to me that there will be a Z coming out. Likely this year. In fact, with the anime continuing in the US on the 20th I think that the end of this month seems like a likely time to announce a new game. Also, Magiana seems to clearly be an Event Legendary to me, just like Volcanion. New pokemon have been introduced before their generation in the anime all over the place (maybe every time) going all the way back to Togepi. And then Marrill, Snubbull, and Donphan being in the first movie. However, pokemon from the next generation have never played a major role in a movie and I don't see that starting now. I feel we'll get Z this year and then a gen 7 as late as 2018. Plus, as has been said before, Kalos has so much potential and much more to offer. It's not going anywhere yet.

I will say that I would love it if gen 7 let go of the formulaic story though. I miss the sheer adventure of gen 1 and 2. I mean, why were you even going on that journey besides mom saying that all little boys leave home? You weren't trying to defeat an evil team (which wasn't attempting to destroy the earth), you weren't trying to be the pokemon league champion. Really the only task you were given was from Professor Oak to fill the pokedex. Also, on that adventure there was some leeway in the order you were able to complete some events to the point where the order of some of those gyms gets muddled up in my mind (basically everything between Lt. Surge and Blaine). I wasn't in a forced stop and go the entire time. It felt like I had some breathing room to explore and adventure. Unfortunately the more intricate story lines have brought with them more linear gameplay (emphasis on more, because it's always been pretty linear)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 12th, 2016 11:52 PM

I have a feeling that if they do add new areas it'll be in the bottom center of the map, but north of the mountains. That area is pretty empty. It could perhaps also be considered southern Kalos.

shadowmoon522 February 13th, 2016 1:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Poke_Spirit (Post 9116651)
Just looking at the map of kalos feels like there's some missing parts..
http://www.serebii.net/pokearth/kalos.png

i think what its its missing a mouth & a nose

Nekaku February 13th, 2016 4:39 AM

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Originally Posted by colter519 (Post 9116707)
I just feel that the fact that the third season of the Kalos series of the anime is called XY&Z it seems obvious to me that there will be a Z coming out. Likely this year. In fact, with the anime continuing in the US on the 20th I think that the end of this month seems like a likely time to announce a new game. Also, Magiana seems to clearly be an Event Legendary to me, just like Volcanion. New pokemon have been introduced before their generation in the anime all over the place (maybe every time) going all the way back to Togepi. And then Marrill, Snubbull, and Donphan being in the first movie. However, pokemon from the next generation have never played a major role in a movie and I don't see that starting now. I feel we'll get Z this year and then a gen 7 as late as 2018. Plus, as has been said before, Kalos has so much potential and much more to offer. It's not going anywhere yet.

I will say that I would love it if gen 7 let go of the formulaic story though. I miss the sheer adventure of gen 1 and 2. I mean, why were you even going on that journey besides mom saying that all little boys leave home? You weren't trying to defeat an evil team (which wasn't attempting to destroy the earth), you weren't trying to be the pokemon league champion. Really the only task you were given was from Professor Oak to fill the pokedex. Also, on that adventure there was some leeway in the order you were able to complete some events to the point where the order of some of those gyms gets muddled up in my mind (basically everything between Lt. Surge and Blaine). I wasn't in a forced stop and go the entire time. It felt like I had some breathing room to explore and adventure. Unfortunately the more intricate story lines have brought with them more linear gameplay (emphasis on more, because it's always been pretty linear)

Latioas,Latias,Lucario,Manaphy and Zorua all say hi. So not sure what you meant by they don't play roles in the movies. Literally all of them played a big role and were next gen Pokemon prior to the gen being out.
You need to factor in when it began airing (In Japan) and when the game would likely come out. Games tend to come out in the fall with BW 2 being an exception somehow. By the fall the anime would likely be done or nearing the climax of Z so having Z as a game would just seem very odd over something else they could do till Gen 7. Not saying Zygarde can't have focus in then ew game but idk it just is odd timing and I can't see the Z arc lasting pass summer in Japan let alone till Gen 7. Which is making me feel Z is anime only and the new game is something else plot wise. Makes me think the things left untouched in XY were done for a reason and it will be explained in the new game. Maybe the reason the power plant had a locked door was due to a scientist working on a project that ends up being the plot off game 2016. What could this power be? Can you defeat it? Find out next time on Pokemon Z! (sorry I had to do it)

Sun February 13th, 2016 6:55 AM

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Originally Posted by colter519 (Post 9116707)
I just feel that the fact that the third season of the Kalos series of the anime is called XY&Z it seems obvious to me that there will be a Z coming out. Likely this year. In fact, with the anime continuing in the US on the 20th I think that the end of this month seems like a likely time to announce a new game. Also, Magiana seems to clearly be an Event Legendary to me, just like Volcanion. New pokemon have been introduced before their generation in the anime all over the place (maybe every time) going all the way back to Togepi. And then Marrill, Snubbull, and Donphan being in the first movie. However, pokemon from the next generation have never played a major role in a movie and I don't see that starting now. I feel we'll get Z this year and then a gen 7 as late as 2018. Plus, as has been said before, Kalos has so much potential and much more to offer. It's not going anywhere yet.

I will say that I would love it if gen 7 let go of the formulaic story though. I miss the sheer adventure of gen 1 and 2. I mean, why were you even going on that journey besides mom saying that all little boys leave home? You weren't trying to defeat an evil team (which wasn't attempting to destroy the earth), you weren't trying to be the pokemon league champion. Really the only task you were given was from Professor Oak to fill the pokedex. Also, on that adventure there was some leeway in the order you were able to complete some events to the point where the order of some of those gyms gets muddled up in my mind (basically everything between Lt. Surge and Blaine). I wasn't in a forced stop and go the entire time. It felt like I had some breathing room to explore and adventure. Unfortunately the more intricate story lines have brought with them more linear gameplay (emphasis on more, because it's always been pretty linear)

I've had some in-game related speculations when it comes to letting little boys and girls leave home at a young age. Perhaps age 10 is already considered as young adults in the Pokemon world? It might sound funny, but things work differently in real life as well, right? Some places consider 18 as the legal age of adult and some 21. Soo when you think about it, it isn't that strange. (:

Gen 7 for 2018 is good, especially if they are going for Gen 6.5 this time. :D

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 13th, 2016 8:05 AM

I think that we'll get Gen VII next year if my theory of Nintendo pushing GF to make games for the release of the NX (assuming it comes out this year) is wrong. Irc GS and RS came out a year after the GBC and GBA had come out. I think was the same with DP for the DS (though DP were originally suppose to be part of the starting line up with a release date scheduled for 2005).

colter519 February 13th, 2016 8:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9116870)
Latioas,Latias,Lucario,Manaphy and Zorua all say hi. So not sure what you meant by they don't play roles in the movies. Literally all of them played a big role and were next gen Pokemon prior to the gen being out.

I didn't realize those movies were out before their corresponding generations of games. I was kind of out of the pokemon loop during those generations and my dates must be off. And I completely spaced that Lucario and Zorua even were main focal points of movies despite not being legendary pokemon. I should probably pay more attention to Japanese movie release dates. My bad


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