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janejane6178 February 25th, 2016 4:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Juice585 (Post 9133179)
I do hope Diantha is tied in more, somehow.

I fully agree with you here, feel like she has such a wasted potential.

Nah February 25th, 2016 5:03 AM

@the thing about having fan input: Idk I think you're both kind of right. On one hand "too many cooks spoil the broth" in that too many ideas are bound to conflict with each other and just create a big mess (and some people have incredibly wack ideas), but on the other hand there's at least a few widely requested features (like HM removal) that would be safe enough to try. Or at least there's a few features that are widely requested to return (Battle Frontier, Vs Seeker, Pokemon following you, character customization, etc) that they might as well try bringing back.

@Nekaku we do have games made by the fans. We just call them ROM Hacks lol

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Originally Posted by Rivvon (Post 9132904)
Perhaps they could re-introduce PokéStar Studios. It would give Diantha something to do, at least.

yes plz

Nekaku February 25th, 2016 5:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Nah (Post 9133220)
@the thing about having fan input: Idk I think you're both kind of right. On one hand "too many cooks spoil the broth" in that too many ideas are bound to conflict with each other and just create a big mess (and some people have incredibly wack ideas), but on the other hand there's at least a few widely requested features (like HM removal) that would be safe enough to try. Or at least there's a few features that are widely requested to return (Battle Frontier, Vs Seeker, Pokemon following you, character customization, etc) that they might as well try bringing back.

@Nekaku we do have games made by the fans. We just call them ROM Hacks lol


yes plz

HM are so annoying at this point and could be replaced by items like an axe to replace cut or a drill to replace strength.

As for rom hacks I feel in a way they are better since they are not afraid to try new things. Like i would love GF to drop the usual formula and see how it goes. Maybe for a game after the first gen game. Heck if Z had no gyms and a new feel to it I would be pumped since it would be fresh. Though we only have 26 hours to get hype,let down or meh. So at this point it is the final hours before the grand reveal.

Liberal Army February 25th, 2016 5:43 AM

Just look at the AlphaSapphire Extreme Randomizer. That game is truly amazing. Would rather have had that as remake than the actual OrAs pair we got.
Like Nah already mentioned, Game Freak should take some demands from the community and put them to work, while still doing their own thing. Hell, they could hold polls after thr games' release to see what should be fixed and what not.

Nekaku February 25th, 2016 6:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Liberal Army (Post 9133246)
Just look at the AlphaSapphire Extreme Randomizer. That game is truly amazing. Would rather have had that as remake than the actual OrAs pair we got.
Like Nah already mentioned, Game Freak should take some demands from the community and put them to work, while still doing their own thing. Hell, they could hold polls after thr games' release to see what should be fixed and what not.

TBH the original games are always better than the remakes. Well FR/LG were good with the SEvii Islands

But yeah GF needs to shake things up. Heck most devs take feedback from fans.

Pokemon_Hero February 25th, 2016 6:20 AM

Sun and Moon might be Kalos. But maybe it IS a new Generation?

janejane6178 February 25th, 2016 6:29 AM

Omg sun and moon? Never expected them to use these names.. Please dont tell me they r skipping gen 6:/

Nekaku February 25th, 2016 6:29 AM

YES! NO Z! Hug Me Brotha!

Joking aside it could be place holder names. Though I guess this means Z is not happening since if it is a place holder why make two if Z was happening. Though if it is not a new gen it makes you wonder since why not XY2


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Originally Posted by janejane6178 (Post 9133293)
Omg sun and moon? Never expected them to use these names.. Please dont tell me they r skipping gen 6:/


I hope they do and not to bug fans of XY but to prove that we don't need 3rd versions of sequels all the time. In a way I kinda think it is smart since any long running game series has one or two bad games in a series. (Bad as in lacking) Though this could be Kalos 6.5 and maybe Sun and moon is the fall and rise? Like maybe each has a different point of view. One the fall of Kalos years ago and the rise of a new war?

WingsofBliss February 25th, 2016 6:33 AM

The only thing I'm mad about is that this potentially ruined the surprise for the Direct. Damn it lol.

Pokemon_Hero February 25th, 2016 6:36 AM

Seems like the source was from here:

http://i.imgur.com/iQ18fYd.jpg

Juice585 February 25th, 2016 6:39 AM

I personally think Sun/Moon ARE Gen 7......but they won't be out until 2017 and there's still the 6.5/3rd version game coming holiday 2016

Dragonpiece February 25th, 2016 6:39 AM

Guess its that time of the year when I dust up this account and start getting excited again!

Nekaku February 25th, 2016 6:40 AM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9133298)
The only thing I'm mad about is that this potentially ruined the surprise for the Direct. Damn it lol.

In a way this is good. Before people were worried Z would be the thing. Now we know something fresh will happen so we can hype it and not be let down. Plus the flood gates are open now.

What...Sun and Moon... Ho-Oh and Luigia? Return to Johto?!

janejane6178 February 25th, 2016 6:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9133307)
In a way this is good. Before people were worried Z would be the thing. Now we know something fresh will happen so we can hype it and not be let down. Plus the flood gates are open now.

What...Sun and Moon... Ho-Oh and Luigia? Return to Johto?!

But what about all the un answered questions in XY and ORAS? :(

Iceshadow3317 February 25th, 2016 6:51 AM

Sun and Moon could still be place holders. I am still hoping they have a 3rd version or sequels, just so Kalos is the current main game.

If the Direct wasn't announced, it is possible that Rainbow had been found out, so they figured it would be best to go ahead and tell everyone.

Sun and Moon could be Gen 7, but I don't think they will come before a 3rd version or sequels.

As for making things fresh, I don't want the concept of pokemon to vanish. Gym Badges and what not need to stay because that is what makes pokemon, pokemon. They can just make the games more story based. Maybe instead of gym badges, we have to get 8 metals to be challenged by the evil team or something.

If they got rid of gym battles, I don't think pokemon would last much longer. Honestly, I don't see why it needs to be changed if Pokemon is still in the top 3 or 5 of Nintendo titles. And they definitely don't need to take ideas from You-Kai Watch, which has basically fallen off the face of the earth in most places.

Nekaku February 25th, 2016 6:52 AM

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Originally Posted by janejane6178 (Post 9133315)
But what about all the un answered questions in XY and ORAS? :(

Could always be carried into the new game. Even if let's say it is in Johto it could carry it over. After all Hoenn got XY stuff carried over. Not saying it is Gold and Silver 2 but the fact A link to the past got a new game based in that world years later makes me wonder along with the color and sun and moon concept.

WingsofBliss February 25th, 2016 6:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9133307)
In a way this is good. Before people were worried Z would be the thing. Now we know something fresh will happen so we can hype it and not be let down. Plus the flood gates are open now.

What...Sun and Moon... Ho-Oh and Luigia? Return to Johto?!

Let me rephrase that.... it ruined the surprise for ME, lol. This was going to be the first time I've watched a game reveal on a Direct, and I was all pumped. Ah well...

This is all totally bonkers in an exciting way. So I came up with this crazy idea... what if this is like a mirror to how Gen 2 was to Gen 1? What if these games are a new Generation, but have connections somewhat to Kalos? What if it's the region that AZ fought against in the Kalos War?

I'm sorry, but there has to be some way that we'll be able to obtain Zygarde's other Formes. An event would be kind of unfair, depending on the method of distribution; the nearest GameStop from me is like a 2 hour drive.

Juice585 February 25th, 2016 7:04 AM

Masuda himself tweeting out about the Moon being out while the Sun is up.


Oh man, hype thrusters on full go now.

Nekaku February 25th, 2016 7:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9133323)
Let me rephrase that.... it ruined the surprise for ME, lol. This was going to be the first time I've watched a game reveal on a Direct, and I was all pumped. Ah well...

This is all totally bonkers in an exciting way. So I came up with this crazy idea... what if this is like a mirror to how Gen 2 was to Gen 1? What if these games are a new Generation, but have connections somewhat to Kalos? What if it's the region that AZ fought against in the Kalos War?

I'm sorry, but there has to be some way that we'll be able to obtain Zygarde's other Formes. An event would be kind of unfair, depending on the method of distribution; the nearest GameStop from me is like a 2 hour drive.

His forms were never confirmed to be anything more than in the anime though. Idk I think people just jumped the gun and assumed it would be in the games. Not saying they won't be but I don't want to assume they will be. Heck we got a Charzard and Venasaure fusion in the anime that never came out in games plus a double battle in the anime 3 or so years before Gen 3. But just like how the anime does not always use the game story I think vice versa is safe to say too.

Though the idea of a return to Kalos is very possible since they do have that train in XY

Altius February 25th, 2016 7:11 AM

If Sun and Moon were real...

All I can think of is.

Mega Lunatone and Solrock?

Juice585 February 25th, 2016 7:12 AM

I always thought Lunatone and Solrock were under-utilized. Like....wouldn't you make a sun and moon Pokemon mean a little more than two "throwaway" that don't have evolutions?

janejane6178 February 25th, 2016 7:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Nekaku (Post 9133339)
His forms were never confirmed to be anything more than in the anime though. Idk I think people just jumped the gun and assumed it would be in the games. Not saying they won't be but I don't want to assume they will be. Heck we got a Charzard and Venasaure fusion in the anime that never came out in games plus a double battle in the anime 3 or so years before Gen 3. But just like how the anime does not always use the game story I think vice versa is safe to say too.

Though the idea of a return to Kalos is very possible since they do have that train in XY

Two things:
1. I dont like the names: Moon and Sun .. Not so unique.
2. I really hope the main games will have something to do with Kalos lol

Nekaku February 25th, 2016 7:15 AM

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Originally Posted by janejane6178 (Post 9133348)
Two things:
1. I dont like the names: Moon and Sun .. Not so unique.
2. I really hope the main games will have something to do with Kalos lol

You should wait for the games plot. Since the names are more unique and tend to reflect the plot. To me they are already better names than Red,Blue,Gold,silver etc Gen 5 onward titles have reflected the theme of the games

Princess Sapphire February 25th, 2016 7:19 AM

As I've read through all this speculation and interesting ideas, I think everyone is forgetting something.


I recall some time ago, that there were meant to be 2 games left for Gen VI. I'm not sure exactly where I heard it, but I'm fairly sure that's what was said. Anyway, if this bit is true, then I predict a prequel/sequel kind of thing. I am in full agreement on everything pointing to Z, but if this tidbit is also true, then I think there will also be a Pokémon W, to act as a prequel.


Think about this. Ever since BW2, they have been trying to break away from the predictable norm. But one thing I feel they can't do, is leave a generation hanging with no "final version". A prequel would certainly work with what information is currently known. It's something they haven't done, and something most won't see coming. Plus, think about what that could entail. It'd take place during AZ's era, so we'd be in the thick of that war. I don't know if W has any significance as an axis like XYZ, but it could still be important.


Plus, I also believe in the Gen 6.5 theory. I basically saw that coming way back when XY was first released. The low number of Pokémon basically gave that away.


So my theory is, if the '2 new games' bit is true, then it will be Z in the traditional sense of a 3rd version, and a genuine prequel to show what really happened in the war. So that would easily be a nice way to give us more Pokémon for the current generation, as that is another thing that's never been done before. That way, the generation ends feeling complete, and then we'll really be ready for Gen VII by '17/18


And as for Gen VII, I like this Sun/Moon idea much better then Plus/Minus. To me, that makes much more sense, not to mention sounds cooler

Pokemon_Hero February 25th, 2016 7:23 AM

We don't know if it's real or not. We need to wait a few hours to see if someone finds out finally something.

My feeling: real.

My guess: It is Kalos with a Johto-like region (Kanto+Kalos+Johto)


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