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Aliencommander1245 November 8th, 2016 1:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mewtwolover (Post 9479716)
That isn't surprise, those generations are so young and naive that they easily swallow without thinking what the mainstream media says. Brexit proved that very well, younger generations who had swallowed the pro-EU propaganda voted mainly for staying in the EU.

I think you've got it twisted around a bit there, you see, the candidate who's entire campaign is built on lies, misinformation and flip-flopping on issues on the campaign trail who's whole "thing" is lying to people on the spot is the one unpopular with the younger generation, not the other way around?

"Mainstream media propaganda" is just lol and shows you both haven't been following the election and are just yourself buying into the objectively false propaganda presented to you. You've naively swallowed without thinking- the exact thing you're accusing others of- which is more than a little ironic.

I mean, it's fairly well known that the leave campaign in brexit was pumped up on lies for the majority of the time, and most of them were dumped with their main paddlers trying to escape from them as soon as the result went through?

Masterge77 November 8th, 2016 9:48 AM

I’ve grown so sick of this election, I just want it over with already. Both candidates are bad, and it’s not easy for one to choose between “bad” and “worse”

I mean, you have Donald Trump, who’s a successful, yet controversial businessman who wants to build a wall on the southern border, potentially ban Muslims from entering the US, and has been accused of being sexist. On the other hand, you have Hillary Clinton, who has been involved in countless scandals, performed actions that have gotten people killed (most notably Benghazi), and supports totalitarian regimes that violate human rights all while being under investigation by the FBI. When both candidates are extremely controversial and dangerous, it’s hard to tell who is worse, especially when I can’t believe either is really qualified to be the president.

Personally, I just want this election over with. I mean really, several sites have projected that Hillary has a 91% chance of winning for several months, which just seems really unreasonable and unrealistic for her to have THAT high of a chance of winning, especially given that these sites tend to be extremely biased and overly liberal. Tumblr SJWs are even worse, they only want Clinton simply because she's female, they don't even care about any of the things she's done, pretend the email scandal never happened, and continuously demonize Trump while worshiping Clinton like a god.

I mean, this election has become so ridiculous that it's hard to tell what's real and what's not, who's really the more popular candidate and who's really ahead in the polls. Major and mainstream news sources claim that Hillary will win, while minor news sources and alternative media claim that it will be Trump who wins. The truth is almost impossible to pinpoint. Trump may say some stupid things, but Hillary's actions have been extremely horrific, and everyone knows that actions speak louder than words.

Let's be honest here, people are over-exaggerating almost everything about both candidates, especially Trump, to the point where they act like he's some kind of ultimate evil. I've actually heard people say that if he wins, the movie "The Purge" is going to become a reality, but let's be realistic here, even if he does win, I highly doubt that The Purge is going to be a reality (or the Hunger Games for that matter, I've seen people bring that up as well).

I mean, people are just so nonsensical, like how Hillary claimed that Pepe, an innocent internet meme was a symbol of white supremacy even though Pepe was only depicted as Trump as a joke and not seriously. The problem is just that people will believe anything the media tells them and is so biased it's painful.

Esper November 8th, 2016 11:17 AM

IT'S ALMOST OVER!!

Please, please, please no recounts.

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Originally Posted by Netto Azure (Post 9478056)
Also I'm going to be more passed off if these 2 Washington state electors mess theElectoral College votes up. http://www.vox.com/2016/11/6/13540504/electors-electoral-college-washington?0p19G=c

Like there is a protest vote but seriously don't blow up the country with it.

Ugh. I hate guys like this. There's a pro-Bernie Facebook group some friends of mine were in during the primaries that's still up and running, but all the sensible people have left and it's mostly now a bunch of aggressive anti-Clinton, pro-Stein asses who act like this. It's awful that this is the takeaway these people got from the election.

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Originally Posted by Ivysaur (Post 9478067)
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/campaigns-elections/the-gops-latinos-apocalypse/

I recommend reading this article while looking at the EV data in Florida and Nevada.

Perhaps Trump had already doomed his campaign the moment he started it with his nutty wall.

Navenatox November 8th, 2016 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Masterge77 (Post 9480033)
I’ve grown so sick of this election, I just want it over with already. Both candidates are bad, and it’s not easy for one to choose between “bad” and “worse”

I mean, you have Donald Trump, who’s a successful, yet controversial businessman who wants to build a wall on the southern border, potentially ban Muslims from entering the US, and has been accused of being sexist. On the other hand, you have Hillary Clinton, who has been involved in countless scandals, performed actions that have gotten people killed (most notably Benghazi), and supports totalitarian regimes that violate human rights all while being under investigation by the FBI. When both candidates are extremely controversial and dangerous, it’s hard to tell who is worse, especially when I can’t believe either is really qualified to be the president.

Personally, I just want this election over with. I mean really, several sites have projected that Hillary has a 91% chance of winning for several months, which just seems really unreasonable and unrealistic for her to have THAT high of a chance of winning, especially given that these sites tend to be extremely biased and overly liberal. Tumblr SJWs are even worse, they only want Clinton simply because she's female, they don't even care about any of the things she's done, pretend the email scandal never happened, and continuously demonize Trump while worshiping Clinton like a god.

I mean, this election has become so ridiculous that it's hard to tell what's real and what's not, who's really the more popular candidate and who's really ahead in the polls. Major and mainstream news sources claim that Hillary will win, while minor news sources and alternative media claim that it will be Trump who wins. The truth is almost impossible to pinpoint. Trump may say some stupid things, but Hillary's actions have been extremely horrific, and everyone knows that actions speak louder than words.

Let's be honest here, people are over-exaggerating almost everything about both candidates, especially Trump, to the point where they act like he's some kind of ultimate evil. I've actually heard people say that if he wins, the movie "The Purge" is going to become a reality, but let's be realistic here, even if he does win, I highly doubt that The Purge is going to be a reality (or the Hunger Games for that matter, I've seen people bring that up as well).

I mean, people are just so nonsensical, like how Hillary claimed that Pepe, an innocent internet meme was a symbol of white supremacy even though Pepe was only depicted as Trump as a joke and not seriously. The problem is just that people will believe anything the media tells them and is so biased it's painful.

Much agreed. I too have the impression that people and media have been overly focused on making clear how much of a jerk Trump is and that he's nothing more than a bigoted racist and misogynist (which I'm not denying, don't get me wrong), however the bad things that Clinton has said and done have been largely kept silent about.

What especially gets me about the latter candidate is her continuous call for a no-fly zone over Syria, even though she herself acknowledged in 2013 that such a zone "would kill a lot of Syrians". On top of that, several former US-military members advise against her plan and even go as far as to say that imposing a no-fly zone in Syria could potentially lead to war with Russia. Now read that again. RUSSIA. The largest nuclear power on earth. It gets all the more alarming when you consider that Clinton was, among others, funded by an Ex-NRA lobbyist. Now, I really hope that I'm just reading too much into this, because honestly, a nuclear war between the US and Russia is the last thing this planet needs at the moment.

So yes, I can fully understand that many Americans are fed up with this election and the candidates, and I'm glad that I'm not in the position of having to vote for one of them. I'd probably vote for a third-party candidate or outright make a blank vote, because as you said, neither of the two is qualified to hold the most powerful office in the world.

Somewhere_ November 8th, 2016 12:15 PM

Why do i keep seeing things that show that Trump actually has a chance of winning?

interesting how this has suddenly grown a lot closer

Nah November 8th, 2016 12:22 PM

Any idea when we'll hear the results? Obviously won't be today or tomorrow, but man I wanna know.....

User19sq November 8th, 2016 12:41 PM

Results may actually come as early as tomorrow, if our new tech can handle the tallies.

I can't believe this is really happening! I never had a girl fall in love with me yet! I dun wanna die without someone to love emotionally nor physically! ; ^;

Netto Azure November 8th, 2016 4:20 PM

We'll know who will win in about 2 hours.

Anyway Kentucky and Indiana has been called for Trump. Vermont goes to Clinton.

Somewhere_ November 8th, 2016 4:27 PM

Trump is winning New Hampshire, but not very much has been released.

Florges November 8th, 2016 5:52 PM

Once again, Indiana doesn't go one day without being a national embarrassment. I'm so disappointed in my state's love for punishment.

Esper November 8th, 2016 6:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Florges (Post 9480430)
Once again, Indiana doesn't go one day without being a national embarrassment. I'm so disappointed in my state's love for punishment.

It's okay. You weren't a swing state at least where a few hundred people could change the fate of the whole country. There's a certain state that won't be named which seems bent on doing that over and over.


0 November 8th, 2016 6:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Esper (Post 9480462)
It's okay. You weren't a swing state at least where a few hundred people could change the fate of the whole country. There's a certain state that won't be named which seems bent on doing that over and over.


Fuck outta here with that bullshit. Florida is badass.

I hate you posers acting like people can't choose what they want. If people want Trump in Florida, so be it. Don't pretend like my state is somehow bad or whatever shit you're pretending. Secede Florida from the USA? My ass, looks like you want a war with whoever disagrees with you, and a war is what will happen with attitudes like that. We tried that in the 1800's, tell me how that went, eh?

Anyways, it looks like Trump is indeed going to win here, so you should all just suck it up and take it in stride.

Sir Codin November 8th, 2016 7:00 PM

I have a message to everyone regardless of whichever candidate wins...


DO IT. MOVE. LIKE YOU SAID YOU WILL.

Florges November 8th, 2016 7:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Esper (Post 9480462)
It's okay. You weren't a swing state at least where a few hundred people could change the fate of the whole country. There's a certain state that won't be named which seems bent on doing that over and over.

I wouldn't be as salty if it wasn't for the fact we went Red on everything. We elected Mike Pence 2.0, and he's actually worse than him. I just have no faith in our state or country whatsoever.

0 November 8th, 2016 7:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CarcharOdin (Post 9480488)
I have a message to everyone regardless of whichever candidate wins...


DO IT. MOVE. LIKE YOU SAID YOU WILL.

Kek. I can feel bad things coming along, but running from problems doesn't always help.

Advice noted.

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Originally Posted by Florges (Post 9480492)
I wouldn't be as salty if it wasn't for the fact we went Red on everything. We elected Mike Pence 2.0, and he's actually worse than him. I just have no faith in our state or country whatsoever.

Haha, and yet all who have no faith in the country usually stay.

Ewery1 November 8th, 2016 7:16 PM

Welp.





We're fucked.

Somewhere_ November 8th, 2016 7:18 PM

trump is doing much better than expected, but Clinton is retaking Virginia.

Esper November 8th, 2016 7:31 PM

Bernie would have been winning by a large margin. The Democratic party was too corporatist going into the election, too arrogant about this, and now they've got a very slight chance.

Florges November 8th, 2016 7:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nonibros (Post 9480494)
Haha, and yet all who have no faith in the country usually stay.

I would if I could, but between finances, my career, family, and my fiancee not wanting to leave I'm tied down to Indiana. If anything, I can keep performing promoting a progressive outlook for the families I serve in the community and hope it helps.

Esper November 8th, 2016 7:47 PM

https://twitter.com/SRowntreeNews/status/796141495573155840
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I am at a Trump rally in Manhattan, and thousands are chanting "We hate Muslims, we hate blacks, we want our great country back". Disgusting

Aliencommander1245 November 8th, 2016 7:49 PM

This is stressing me out a lot, a Trump presidency would be awful for america sure (You don't have to be a legal genius to see all his awful policies, and the way they're inferior to Clinton's in every possible way for what they are)

But... his election would be directly effect people abroad, too. It empowers people who listen to his derogatory, regressive rhetoric both citizen and politician alike. That doesn't just stunt social progress, it quite literally puts people in danger.
An anti-lgbt, anti-migrant, anti-non-white government that Trump presents spreads his own views and justifies them elsewhere, here in australia the fringe right controlling our prime minister and his party will only get bolder, louder and more powerful with the election of Trump and that makes me genuinely upset for the future of my own country

Somewhere_ November 8th, 2016 7:56 PM

Polls showed that Bernie would have beaten Trump, and its possible he could have; however, Bernie may have been too far left for the US. Despite the polls displaying those numbers, they were before the primaries even ended (too early), so I would bet my money on a Trump win against Bernie.

I think it would come down to people not wanting to pay Bernie's absurdly high tax rates. He even admitted his taxes would have risen taxes on the lower taxes.

It would have been very interesting: a left-wing populist vs. a right-wing populist

Ewery1 November 8th, 2016 8:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Esper (Post 9480505)
Bernie would have been winning by a large margin. The Democratic party was too corporatist going into the election, too arrogant about this, and now they've got a very slight chance.

Yeah pretty much. They're all idiots, I'm really annoyed at them, they screwed us over.

Judge Mandolore Shepard November 8th, 2016 8:40 PM

While looking at the list of states for where it is too early to call, I was very surprised that my home state of Washington is one of them.

Somewhere_ November 8th, 2016 8:42 PM

I think its coming down to Michigan. If Clinton wins Michigan, she wins it all.


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