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Thepowaofhax February 10th, 2016 2:38 PM

Seeing has Kalos did have a smaller pokemon dex than the rest of the series, there is a very good chance that this could be a Gen 6 sequel with new Pokemon members in the dex, especially with it's connection to Volcanion.

KorpiklaaniVodka February 10th, 2016 2:54 PM

After thinking more about it, I'm pretty neutral about Magiana now.

Stokesma February 10th, 2016 3:05 PM

Wow, I wasn't expecting this at all, revealing a real new Pokemon.
This Magiana looks cool. When I first spotted it, its lower half reminded of a Poke Ball and then come to find out it's man-made Pokemon which made sense.
Also, the middle portion also resembles a Poke Ball.
Because of being man-made, most likely it will be a Steel type. As for a second type, I would like it to have one but it would be fine it was just mono-type.

I'm more of the side that this Pokemon doesn't signify that the next Pokemon games will based on Generation 7. Generation 6 still needs to be expanded in my view especially with the different forms of Zygarde revealed a couple months back. However, Magiana could be either a Generation 6 or 7 Pokemon. I rather have it be a Generation 7 Pokemon just give us something to look forward to.

Pinkie-Dawn February 10th, 2016 6:33 PM

I don't understand why they're hiding Magiana's typing when it obviously looks like a Steel type? I'm already seeing some people speculating it being a "machine" type.

Salzorrah February 10th, 2016 6:46 PM

OH MY GOD MAGIANA IS BAE <3

I'm totally on the Steel/Fairy bandwagon and I really think it has connections with both Diancie and Volcanion. The Klink Family may probably be related but hnng

MAGIANA <333

Kameken February 10th, 2016 8:22 PM

I don't like the eyelashes or the gear head. That said, I don't like a lot of mythic pokemon at first, they tend to grow on me, like Diancie did, so I'll probably like it eventually.

My guess is steel/fairy, they can't seem to get enough of fairy types lately.

Also I just realized its lower body is a pokeball of some kind. Neat.

Bounsweet February 11th, 2016 1:22 AM

I'm pretty positive that this isn't an introduction to Gen VII. We still haven't even had Z version (lbr, it's gonna happen) officially revealed yet, and it's related to Volcanion which is a Gen VI legendary. I feel like it's going to be a little bit like Keldeo which iirc was introduced after BW came out, and was part of BW2. They seem to be on trend the past couple Gens to introduce new legendaries (and/or formes) mid-Gen, so I think this is the case. It is curious though that there's no data for Magiana in XY/ORAS, which is how people found out about Hoopa and Volcanion in advance.

I like her a lot already though, I think that might be because Diancie has grown on me quite a bit recently and she reminds me of her. Plus, all of those Poké Ball motifs on her are adorable as hell.

Sabrewulf238 February 11th, 2016 1:54 AM

I feel like having a Robo, Machine or Tech typing would be pretty cool. In today's world so many technological advancements are being made I think it would make sense if scientists in the Pokemon world were building robots and artificial intelligences.

"Steel" doesn't conceptually cover that area very well in my opinion. (Particularly when you consider the Porygon family would probably have it's typing changed to Normal/Tech or Normal/Machine)

Arylett Charnoa February 11th, 2016 3:08 AM

I dislike the design from my initial impressions. The dress part just looks so bulky and I find it to be an overly cartoony cute robot. Just way too much for me. That gear head also doesn't mesh well with those long ears. It reminds me of an inferior version of XJ-9 from My Life as a Teenage Robot.

As for whether or not it's from Gen VII, I can't really say. It looks far too much like a Diancie rip-off to not have a relation to that, especially since it's being shown so soon after Diancie's official reveal. My guess is that it is a mechanical remake of Diancie from another region and that they may have a Mew/Mewtwo thing going on.

PageEmp February 11th, 2016 4:05 AM

Now that I come to think of it... It kind of reminds me of Klinklang, I mean with the gears and all.

Will this be a Klang alt-evo?

blue February 11th, 2016 4:48 AM

Interested to see the stats of Magiana, I'd expect it to have a high Defense stat. If it is anything like Lucario or Zoroark then it will probably have a BST of 510-530.

Light and Darkness Dragon February 11th, 2016 10:33 AM

There is the possibility of this being a Gen 6 pokemon. While we never received new Pokemon in any generation before. Whether Megas count as new Pokemon or form change can be debated. I lean towards form change but they are also an evolution meaning it would also be a new species of pokemon albeit temporarily.
We still don't know if we are getting XZ/YZ/Z or Pokemon NeXt Gen, Gen 7.
All I know is I believe this pokemon to be in the next game that is released. Hopefully 2017.

Mawa February 11th, 2016 10:44 AM

I wonder why it haven't be seen before...

Like Diancie, Volcanion and Hoopa had th code cracked. What about this one?

... I really think it's gonna be in another game. Maybe Z ?

mew_nani February 11th, 2016 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mawa (Post 9114615)
I wonder why it haven't be seen before...

Like Diancie, Volcanion and Hoopa had th code cracked. What about this one?

... I really think it's gonna be in another game. Maybe Z ?

If it was in the game they would have found it. It's just not there.

Lycanthropy February 11th, 2016 11:25 AM

I'm also on the "Hey that looks exactly like a metallic Diancie" team, but in fact I like this one more! I can't unsee the the resemblance of Magiana's name and the word 'magic', going by that I'd say steel/psychic type. (I mean, the steel part is pretty obvious and Delphox shows that magic = psychic.)

Volcanion was sixth gen, right? Since Volcanion and Magiana appear to have a history together, it seems very probable to me this one will also be part of Gen VI in the future. And that's great news, because that means they're not done with the sixth generation yet and I really want to see Pokémon Z happen!

Light and Darkness Dragon February 11th, 2016 11:49 AM

I want to know where the Couriway Town leads to via train. I want to learn about the GS ball and if it has a connection to Magiana.

I believe Magiana was made to try and tame pokemon.

Even though I know they wanted us to forget about the GS ball.

LilyGardy February 11th, 2016 12:17 PM

My first thought was 'Diancie has been traded holding a Metal Coat'. This new Pokemon has to be related to Diancie in some way.

I'm guessing its typing will be Steel/Fairy and will be a Pokémon exclusive to Z cartridges.

One more thing similar to Diancie it is very cute.

Vegeta™ February 11th, 2016 12:21 PM

Check the top of its head. Looks like a Psychic type to me.

Salzorrah February 11th, 2016 5:36 PM

Inb4 gf pulls a mega evolution on us and introduce triple typings oh god steel psychic fairy plz no too op

Sopheria February 11th, 2016 5:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikari Takahashi (Post 9114122)
It is curious though that there's no data for Magiana in XY/ORAS, which is how people found out about Hoopa and Volcanion in advance.

I thought the same thing too, but it wouldn't be too out of the ordinary if they just added the data into Z. I mean, none of the data for the OR/AS Megas was in X/Y, so there's nothing stopping them from just putting it into the newer game without it necessarily needing to be in the older ones. Though that would leave us in the same position with Z as we're in with OR/AS and X/Y, where battling and trading is a pain because both games don't share the same set of data :/

illumine February 11th, 2016 7:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Davepetasprite^2 (Post 9115040)
Inb4 gf pulls a mega evolution on us and introduce triple typings oh god steel psychic fairy plz no too op

Mega-evolutions are magic, OK. Never believe it's not so.

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It is curious though that there's no data for Magiana in XY/ORAS, which is how people found out about Hoopa and Volcanion in advance.
I mean, I guess that this isn't that kind of Pokémon, introduced into the game and then saved for special occasions, unless someone missed something there. It's not meant as a repetition per se, more as an unveiling of something new.

Admittedly you might question how exciting its design is, when compared to the Pokémon designs that it's being placed next to. They could possibly get away with introducing new Pokémon into a 'Z' if it was released this year, but as it's a spin-off and those are generally meant to adapt to being slightly obscure, we'll see if they want to make particularly extensive or hyped-up changes to that. It might make more impact to release these things in a new gen, if they have more planned.

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With all those Poké Ball motifs, one wonders if she came from the Poké Ball factory.
Perhaps she's a trap to lure Volcanion. The twist is that they dance at a ball, and then she evolves him into a Voltorb, perhaps to fight off Team Rocket and Diancie. It could be called 'primal Volcanion,' it would be a great gimmick.

Bounsweet February 11th, 2016 9:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sopheria (Post 9115061)
I thought the same thing too, but it wouldn't be too out of the ordinary if they just added the data into Z. I mean, none of the data for the OR/AS Megas was in X/Y, so there's nothing stopping them from just putting it into the newer game without it necessarily needing to be in the older ones. Though that would leave us in the same position with Z as we're in with OR/AS and X/Y, where battling and trading is a pain because both games don't share the same set of data :/

Oh that's true! I forgot about how the ORAS Megas were incompatible with XY - that just convinces me more that it's going to be part of Z Version. I do agree that it is annoying in regards to battling and trading, though.

Pinkie-Dawn February 14th, 2016 12:54 PM

I've stumbled upon a supposed leak on /vp/ regarding Magiana. It is apparently part of the second half of Kalos Pokémon for Z, and it's the last Pokémon on the dex. Here's the leak, but it's written in Japanese:

Spoiler:
Quote:

サウスセントラルカロス図鑑

722. リンゴムシ (虫・草) みのうじポケモン
723. リンゴバエ (虫・草) みのばえポケモン

734. コキブリ (虫・悪) ゴモゴミポケモン
725. ゴミブリ (虫・悪) ゴミゴミポケモン

726. ドロイノコ (地) どろあびポケモン
727. デイノシシ (地) どろあびポケモン

728. アノアクア (水) みずばポケモン
729. アクアノア (水) みずばポケモン

730. キノコオニ (妖・毒) せいのこなポケモン
731. キンリンプ (妖・毒) きんかんポケモン

732. バケモメン (霊) いとポケモン
733. シートバケ (霊) しきふポケモン
734. フトバケ (霊) ねどこポケモン

735. イーエスピー (超・悪) ほんのうポケモン
736. サイッヒク (超・無) しりょポケモン
737. ウベリッヒク (超) りょうしんポケモン

738. チラホーラ (氷・飛) せっぺんポケモン
739. コンホーン (氷・飛) ゆきあらしポケモン

740. ペッピメント (草) あまいポケモン
741. ペッパネロ (草・炎) からいポケモン

742. コリョウ (竜・鋼) シールドポケモン
743. ナイトラゴン (竜・鋼) ランスポケモン

サウスマウンテンカロス図鑑

744. ビードカゲ (毒・地) どくとかげポケモン
745. デザートカゲ (毒・地) どくとかげポケモン

746. ハオリムリ (炎) えんとつポケモン
747. ハオリデユ (炎・水) おんせんポケモン

748. Hゲン (電) げんそポケモン
749. Oキシゲン (電) げんそポケモン
750. H2Oター (電・水) かごうぶつポケモン

751. ノイオン (超・電) しんけいポケモン
752. ダイノウモ (超・電) のうずいポケモン

753. ユキバ (氷・無) こおりキバポケモン
754. フブキバ (氷・悪) こおりキバポケモン

755. イナゴオリ (虫・氷) れいとうポケモン

756. ニッコグマ (炎) ちょうようポケモン
757. ベアサヒ (炎) ちょうようポケモン

758. カンセキ (岩・毒) ウイルスポケモン
759. ジガンセン (鋼・毒) ウイルスポケモン

760. キョジシン (地・闘) たいしんポケモン

761. ハリアサシ (無・鋼) はりやまポケモン

762. クモンキ (無・虫) かるわざしポケモン

763. イシンマイ (岩・無) うでがないポケモン
764. チューキシ (岩・闘) たんのうポケモン
765. メイシン (岩・超) だいしはんポケモン

サウスコーストカロス図鑑

766. ハオトリ (飛) ハミングポケモン
767. パチドリ (飛・電) せいでんきポケモン

768. コドモロコシ (草) こくりゅうポケモン
769. トーモクコシ (草) チーフテンポケモン

770. ドラッヒア (竜) そうだいなポケモン

771. ピースム (水) カクレガニポケモン
772. ココナトロ (水・草) ヤシガニポケモン

773. カイルカ (水・超) イルカポケモン
774. オキルカ (水・超) イルカポケモン

775. シエルブ (妖・飛) エンジェルポケモン
776. シエロファン (妖・飛) エンジェルポケモン
777. シエラフ (妖・飛) エンジェルポケモン

778. ゴロダツ (氷・闘) ごろつきポケモン
779. バンイキング (氷・闘) やばんじんポケモン

780. リャクーン (悪) どろぼうポケモン
781. トウゾクーン (悪) どろぼうポケモン

782. シンイン (闘) かけだしポケモン
783. インフ (闘) ねんきものポケモン
784. ジンロン (闘・竜) せんせいポケモン

785. ビョージ (霊・岩) じかんポケモン
786. フンザイ (霊・鋼) じかんポケモン
787. ジョーライ (霊・鋼) じかんポケモン

伝説のポケモン

788. アイビョウシ (無・霊) りょうしポケモン

789. ジョウホール (悪・超) とくいてんポケモン

790. カンシオニ (炎・氷) ねつりきポケモン

幻のポケモン

791. マギアナ (鋼・妖) じんぞうポケモン


I would provide the source, but I'm unsure if PC has a strict policy of linking sources from 4chan.

Hikamaru February 15th, 2016 2:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikari Takahashi (Post 9115301)
Oh that's true! I forgot about how the ORAS Megas were incompatible with XY - that just convinces me more that it's going to be part of Z Version. I do agree that it is annoying in regards to battling and trading, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 9118608)
I've stumbled upon a supposed leak on /vp/ regarding Magiana. It is apparently part of the second half of Kalos Pokémon for Z, and it's the last Pokémon on the dex. Here's the leak, but it's written in Japanese:



I would provide the source, but I'm unsure if PC has a strict policy of linking sources from 4chan.

So this says Pokemon Z is not Generation 6, but rather Generation 6.5? We've never had new Pokemon introduced as part of a generation midway through said generation, because all previous generations had all their new Pokemon known as of the start of said generation but man Game Freak have been throwing quite the unexpected at us lately.

Unfortunately these new Pokemon coming to the next main game means it'll likely be heavily incompatible with XY and ORAS in terms of trading and battling.

Light and Darkness Dragon February 16th, 2016 8:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9119231)
Unfortunately these new Pokemon coming to the next main game means it'll likely be heavily incompatible with XY and ORAS in terms of trading and battling.

ORAS was 6.5 with its Incompatible Mega Stones, and GF not wishing to patch them in. If Z is incompatible with XY we should call it what it is Gen 7, even if GF calls it gen 6 we know the truth (Especially when Pokemon is all about trading). If this is not 100% compatible with ORAS e.g. if "Kalos" rules need to be used it's gen 7.


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