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PokeMaster3000 November 1st, 2003 12:12 AM

Looks like this thread will be a really jos place for me to get info for my site....
YEAH!!!!

Kairi November 1st, 2003 6:50 AM

I wouldn't exactly deem it "Fourth Generation". The RS metagame has yet to unfold, and its flaws and fixes have not fully revealed themselves. This is more like v.3b or something in my opinion.

Rift November 1st, 2003 4:34 PM

this is version 1: Advance! :D i really hope they made rock tunnel, Mt. Moon, and Victory Road smaller though!

PokeMaster3000 November 3rd, 2003 2:09 AM

Yeah.... that will be much better....

jynx November 3rd, 2003 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Winstrate
Here, post your thoughts, any found features, anything new, screenshots, etc. about the 4th Generation Pokémon Games, current ones known as Pokémon Fire Red and Leaf Green.

The maincharacters and the games are new.
XDDDDDD

(Voice from somewhere: jynx..you are spamming again..)

Dizzy November 6th, 2003 3:14 PM

Im so Sure that they will have Rearranged Cities...

hydrobat November 7th, 2003 4:30 AM

Is the bicycle still gonna be used?
It would be cooler with a skateboard haha!

If only they could include new moves and more legendary pokés ..

Fire Master November 7th, 2003 12:13 PM

i really really hope that they will put some contests things in. I think that you shoulb be able to Visit Jhoto and Houen.

Chaeran November 7th, 2003 12:13 PM

I sincerely hope we won't need to visit some sort of convention or promotion for Mew or whichever legendarys they introduce.

PokeMaster3000 November 10th, 2003 2:52 AM

why'd you wanna do that for?

Kairi November 10th, 2003 7:40 AM

Wasn't that poorly executed though? I skimmed though the manuel that came with my Japanese Pokémon Crystal, and found it looked contrived and painful to get working,. A networkable GCN game though...

Demotruk November 13th, 2003 3:56 AM

It's not fourth generation until a new Gameboy comes out(not an upgrade of an existing Gameboy though so SP doesn't count). This is still third generation in my opinion.

PokeMaster3000 November 13th, 2003 6:42 AM

we're talking about.... the games? not the console? ahem... handheld?

PokeMaster3000 November 13th, 2003 10:56 PM

Seems possible enough to me...
FR LG is in a mixed position of 4th Generation and the [b]1.0[b] Generation... its actually Red and Green with a LOT improved graphics.

Chaeran November 14th, 2003 1:44 PM

Considering the new characters...I'm starting to think FR/LG takes place quite a while after RBY. I doubt the Elite Four and Champion will be the same. Maybe Kenta or Marina will be the Champion--or they could be like Red in GSC.

PokeMaster3000 November 14th, 2003 10:57 PM

Actually I think there will be a new storyline other than the one from R/B/Y/G. Team Rocket will be back after the incident at Johto and you have to get them outta the region again. There are new characters and stuff... and thats what I think is gonna be in the game.

New league champs sounds great to me..

I also found out from a friend who said Johto and Hoenn will be there too with Kanto in FR LG and WB, but he says its all rumors.

punkie90 November 15th, 2003 6:36 AM

I Agree! I would ather have a longer more adventures game, then a game that u can just walk around all of the continents!

PokeMaster3000 November 15th, 2003 7:49 AM

I'd want a game with all the regions.

But mostly, one with the Orange Islands would be great!!!

punkie90 November 15th, 2003 8:02 AM

ya, but don't you also ant a good adnenture to it?

Chaeran November 15th, 2003 12:45 PM

I wish the Orange Islands would be in a game as well. Not only would it be somewhere new, but I might see where Lorelei lives! *-*

CyberRaichu November 16th, 2003 5:24 AM

I say they give all continents equal Importance Viva Johto Viva

PokeMaster3000 November 16th, 2003 6:15 AM

I'd want Orange Islands of course with a storyline adventure!

Mightyena37 November 21st, 2003 8:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Winstrate
Here's the Japanese generation table:
Original Generation Pokémon Games: Red, Green.
1.1 Generation: Blue (changed graphics)
1.2 Generation: Yellow (starring Pikachu/Adds Game Boy Color support)
2nd Generation: Gold and Silver
2.1 Generation: Crystal (bigger Johto storyline - Suicune/Only for Game Boy Color)
3rd Generation: Ruby and Sapphire (released on the Game Boy Advance)
4th Generation/1.3 Generation: Fire Red and Leaf Green

I really think when talking about FR/LG that we're talking about a 3.1 generation game. If you're going to version everything, then it really has the most to do with the software side. The screenshots I've seen of FR/LG so far look a LOT like the same graphics we saw in Ru/Sa. And from the sounds of it, much of the other featuresets will be coming from the Ru/Sa codebase. But a LOT of all this is speculation right now... I'm getting my brother in Tokyo to send me a Japanese GBA and copies of FR/LG as a belated birthday and Christmas present so I can find out for sure though. (Thank goodness I know some Japanese and can look up what I don't know...)

As far as what the game will have... I strongly suspect that this game will occur in the same timeline as Ru/Sa, which means well after the original R/B/Y games. I think it will have a completely redone storyline, that the maps will be more detailed, we will have a lot more features in-line with the Ru/Sa games, and that we may very well have Johto and Kanto though NOT Hoenn. I believe the approach Nintendo/GameFreak will take with these games is to give us an "everything but Hoenn" side of the 3rd generation software. I don't truly believe this will be a "4th Generation" set of games. I also strongly feel that these games will have the original 250+ Pokemon from G/S/C, not just the first 150+ from R/B/Y. Only time and testing will tell though...

As for 4th generation... I think one of two things is going to have to happen. Either we get a whole new game with lots of great new features and Pokemon, or we get the Pokemon Ultimate, which will conglomerate Kanto, Johto and Hoenn into one huge game and have all 380+ Pokemon plus some more new ones scattered about. Given the way Nintendo and GameFreak works, and considering how the Japanese mindset works, I really think we're most likely to get a whole new deal this time around. But you never know, three's company and four's a crowd, so sometimes it's best to just make the three closer. It's also important to note that Pokemon has always been the impetus behind selling millions of GameBoy units worldwide, and it's the number one reason GameBoys are sold. If Nintendo plans to release yet another generation of newer handheld systems (I don't see how they could at this point...) then they will need a brave new Pokemon game with newer, better features to sell that unit.

Stylewise, Japan tends to be about 10 years behind the US, when they do copy Western culture... And about ten years ago here in the US, retro was the in-thing. FR/LG may just be the game world expression of retro, but I know it will be a much more grand game than the original R/B/Y games in any event. I'm looking forward to them, and when I get the Japanese versions I'll let folks know what it looks like and how it plays. =)

PokeMaster3000 November 21st, 2003 9:32 PM

ehh... do you have to post a post that big?

I agree with you Might.

Kairi November 21st, 2003 9:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PokeMaster3000
ehh... do you have to post a post that big?

I agree with you Might.

Big posts that are filled with stuff like that are fun and interesting to read. He didn't have to use "...*insert random crack about twenty-five characters* either. >.>;

I think only 151 will be in FR and LG. Simply because Colosseum allows you to get quite a few GSC ones, it call comes together to complete your dex, and Nintendo's wallet. Remember they are a business out to make money.


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