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Salzorrah February 26th, 2016 7:17 AM

Obligatory Starter Speculation Thread
 
New games, probably new region, and probably new starters... Will they still go with the traditional Fire/Water/Grass starter, or will they change things up a bit?

SPECULATE AWAY :D

pkmin3033 February 26th, 2016 7:25 AM

Well, they've not deviated from the Fire/Water/Grass formula before and I can't see that changing now...it's pretty much a tradition, and as many people would complain as would rejoice.

I'm more interested in what forms the starters will take...I want at least one bird. A grass-type bird would be very interesting, since we've not had one of those yet.

Lycanthropy February 26th, 2016 7:41 AM

Looking at the artwork, there appear to be at least a couple of Gen I/II Pokémon living in the region, meaning we won't get an entirely new set of Pokémon like we saw in generation V. Good chance Chikorita, Cyndaquil and Totodile are going to make a reappearance, as they did with the Kanto starters in Kalos.

We haven't seen any Gen VII Pokémon yet, (Okay, admittedly we can't even say whether it will be of a seventh generation yet.) but I don't think they will refrain from using the same old grass/fire/water formula again.

Hikamaru February 26th, 2016 7:54 AM

I think it'll be the typical Grass/Fire/Water trio again, but it'll be interesting to see how designs turn out.

For the Fire-type, I'm probably expecting another connection to an animal in the Chinese Zodiac so maybe I'm hoping for a rabbit this time. Water will probably be another amphibious creature (since that's the theme with all Water starters so far) and for Grass, a reptile again would seem stale because Chespin breaking that streak means there could be new design potentials.

Rukario February 26th, 2016 8:00 AM

Oh great just what we need.. an all new fire rabbit.

I think they'll keep the formula that works but I hope that they come up with cool starters with potential and not just something average.

Rukario February 26th, 2016 8:00 AM

Oh great just what we need.. an all new fire rabbit.

I think they'll keep the formula that works but I hope that they come up with cool starters with potential and not just something average.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 26th, 2016 8:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9135060)
I think it'll be the typical Grass/Fire/Water trio again, but it'll be interesting to see how designs turn out.

For the Fire-type, I'm probably expecting another connection to an animal in the Chinese Zodiac so maybe I'm hoping for a rabbit this time. Water will probably be another amphibious creature (since that's the theme with all Water starters so far) and for Grass, a reptile again would seem stale because Chespin breaking that streak means there could be new design potentials.

I'm hoping for a snake fire starter.


What do you mean by amphibious? If you mean in the biological sense, that not true at all. Squirtle is a reptile (with a mammalian tail...) and so is Totodile (minus the mammalian tail), Mudkip is an amphibian, Piplup is a bird, Oshawott is a mammal, and Froakie is an amphibian.
I'll like a dolphin or another bird base pokemon to even up the ratios.
I'll also like a grass bird starter (been wanting one since Gen IV after we had gotten Torchic and Piplup).

Hikamaru February 26th, 2016 8:04 AM

What I mean by "amphibious" (or "semi-aquatic") is a creature that is active both on land and in the water, and it's been a common trend with Water-type starter designs.

gimmepie February 26th, 2016 8:05 AM

Whilst I am certain we'll see the usual sort of starter trio, I wouldn't expect them to just go with the obvious. The one thing you can guarantee they'll do is pick something rather random.

GiovanniViridian February 26th, 2016 8:08 AM

It's obviously going to be Grass/Water/Fire, but if I were to choose I'd prefer something different which is Psychic/Dark/Fighting.

Iceshadow3317 February 26th, 2016 8:13 AM

I really hope they drop fighting. I love fighting types, but I am really sick of them being starters. I don't think they will drop the basic Fire/Grass/Water.

I want a rabbit starter for sure. Maybe a true Kangaroo and an Otter. I don't know though. Most starters are usually based off well know animals. Turtles, Pigs, Frogs, snakes, ect.

What I want to see is maybe Grass/Fairy, Fire/Poison and Water/Psychic

blue February 26th, 2016 8:16 AM

I think it would be cool to change up the starter types from the traditional Grass/Water/Fire types. It can still be equally balanced using different types such as Psychic/Dark/Fighting.

monkeyboy0 February 26th, 2016 8:53 AM

Fire Starter Possibilities: - All fire starters are based off of the Chinese zodiac- here are the signs that are left
Ox
Tiger
Rabbit
Sheep
Horse (Fire Horse - Ponyta)
Snake

Water Starter Possibilities: - All water starters need the water to survive, but can survive on land as well
Beavers
Duck (Overused - Unlikely)
Platypus? (Psyduck?)
Salamander? (Mudkip? - I know he is an Axolotl)
Snake? (Like A water snake of some sort)
Mosquito? (No mosquito Pokemon yet- born in the water... Could it start as a larvae?)
Snail
Water Strider (Surskit)

Grass Starters Possibilities: - All grass starters are prehistoric animals in some way... Its almost as if these starters are going through time starting with dinosaurs, and with X and Y, going onto early mammals
Agilodocodon
Alphadon (For their teeth - could be a cool concept)
Cronopio
Crusafontia
Eomaia (Had two layers of fur - cool concepts)
Fruitafossor (Known for digging... ground/grass?)
Hadrocodium (Had a huge brain for how early it lived and how small it was...)

Kung Fu Ferret February 26th, 2016 9:35 AM

All I know is that I'm half expecting the Water Starter to be a hippo...

Sabrewulf238 February 26th, 2016 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meloetta (Post 9134927)
Well, they've not deviated from the Fire/Water/Grass formula before and I can't see that changing now...it's pretty much a tradition, and as many people would complain as would rejoice.

I'm more interested in what forms the starters will take...I want at least one bird. A grass-type bird would be very interesting, since we've not had one of those yet.

I'm hoping for a grass type bird too. Since Torchic and Piplup were both my favourite starters in their gen and I feel like I haven't been giving the grass typing a fair shake when it comes to choosing starters. (So far the only time I've picked the grass starter first was Chikorita in the 2nd gen)

Mawa February 26th, 2016 11:05 AM

I want Grass/Water/Fire... I don't want another set of types... This is the one thing they don't have to change in my opinion.

Since the speculation of Sabrewulf238, I want an Ox... I would like Rabbit too but I feel like it's gonna be Fire/Fight XD Water starter? Ohh a Beaver :D For the Grass I really don't know..

MarioManH February 26th, 2016 11:08 AM

I want a dog (wolf? idk). I don't care what type it is, I just want a dog.

Addy February 26th, 2016 11:09 AM

Honestly, I'm kind of hoping that they deviate from the normal grass/water/fire starter, it would be nice to see something different for once, maybe something that ties in with the theme of the game.

MarinoKadame February 26th, 2016 11:27 AM

WHat kind of Grass Type Pokemon could relate to the Sun and Moon ? Because I can see a Fire starter based on the Sun and a Water Starter based on the Moon.

MarioManH February 26th, 2016 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addy (Post 9135667)
Honestly, I'm kind of hoping that they deviate from the normal grass/water/fire starter, it would be nice to see something different for once, maybe something that ties in with the theme of the game.

If there is no Dog Starter. I'm transferring an Eevee over from Poke Bank.

Hikamaru February 26th, 2016 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarioManH (Post 9135724)
If there is no Dog Starter. I'm transferring an Eevee over from Poke Bank.

Fennekin came close to representing the "dog", since foxes are canine animals.

MarioManH February 26th, 2016 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9135727)
Fennekin came close to representing the "dog", since foxes are canine animals.

Eh but wasn't really the aspect I was hoping for. Something more Arcanine-esque is what I'm hoping for.

Sabrewulf238 February 26th, 2016 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarinoKadame (Post 9135719)
WHat kind of Grass Type Pokemon could relate to the Sun and Moon ? Because I can see a Fire starter based on the Sun and a Water Starter based on the Moon.

It's likely the starters won't have any connection to the Sun or the Moon.

I mean when have the starters ever had a connection to the titles of the games?

Hikamaru February 26th, 2016 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 9135735)
It's likely the starters won't have any connection to the Sun or the Moon.

I mean when have the starters ever had a connection to the titles of the games?

You're right, I never see any connection between game title and the starters so don't expect it.

DataFile February 26th, 2016 11:56 AM

Here's my ideas for starters that I'd hope to see:
Grass type that is actually a plant, instead of an animal with plant motif.
Water type with diving equipment.
And, eh, I don't have any ideas for fire type, maybe a lighter or welding mask.


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