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Hikamaru February 26th, 2016 7:22 AM

Gym Leaders/Elite Four Speculation
 
Every region always brings us a new lineup of Gym Leaders and Elite Four members, each specializing in a given type. What are you hoping to see out of the possible new Gym Leaders/Elite Four etc? Like what types they would use? Or maybe what designs they could be based on to represent that type? Or maybe what the new badges might be called?

ZKE February 26th, 2016 7:54 AM

I'd hazard a tentative guess that we're getting at least a Water Gym based off of this building. It's ridiculously big but note the Water types plastered around the edges and the pokeball emblem up top.

Of course, it could turn out to be some sort of museum or private-owned mansion like the one in Kalos or something else altogether if that even is a final screenshot of the finished in-game design.

blue February 26th, 2016 8:07 AM

Pokemon Moon better bring a Dark-type Gym Leader, that is something that is way overdue. D:

TCB February 26th, 2016 8:24 AM

Dark type Gym. That's all I ask. Failing that...

I actually want to see the Gyms NOT employ a strict one-type deal. Maybe have Gyms be based around certain strategies, have Gyms do a central theme to them having types centered around that theme. Stuff like that.

jfuze174 February 26th, 2016 8:31 AM

I wanna see a dark type gym but I also wanna see diversity with gym leaders , I don't wanna see a dark gym with two poochyenas and one mightyenna

Norou February 26th, 2016 8:35 AM

I have to go with what everyone else it saying, I hope for a dark type gym. It's long overdue, I also wouldn't mind having a flying type elite four member. I don't think we've had one so far, so that would be a nice change.

Hikamaru February 26th, 2016 8:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue (Post 9135124)
Pokemon Moon better bring a Dark-type Gym Leader, that is something that is way overdue. D:

I actually watched this video by a YouTube named MysticUmbreon which is his theory on why Dark-type Gyms currently don't exist. Apparently he points out that Gym Leaders are meant to be a positive, role-model figure who serves to run and protect their city/town, and with Dark-type being called "Evil" in Japan it seems to be against that kind of role.

GiovanniViridian February 26th, 2016 8:38 AM

Yes, I want a Dark-type Gym please since we haven't had it so far.

And if possible, try having a Fairy-type Elite Four/Gym for a continuation of the Fairy-type domination.

Universe February 26th, 2016 8:53 AM

i came into this thread with the express purpose of saying in big letters "Dark type gym" but i see you all have that covered.

so considering there's a "Moon" and apparent night time theme, maybe there's a good chance we'll see a Dark type leader. if it won't happen because of the type's Japanese name, that's truly a missed opportunity.

i mean Eevee's Dark evolution only happens are night are you really gonna miss how great of a theme that is.

LilyGardy February 26th, 2016 10:14 AM

Can we have a Grass Type Elite Four please? It is astonishing we have not had it yet.

I have a feeling we will get a Rock Type Gym early on as is normally the case and a Poison Gym as the seventh or eighth Gym.

More to the point though can we please have some character development of Gym Leaders. In Kalos The only Leader who got anything was Korrina.

MarioManH February 26th, 2016 10:17 AM

Would be nice to see another Misc. Type Gym Leader again
Spoiler:
http://i.imgur.com/EEcFCuj.png

Gone but not forgotten ;_;

MarinoKadame February 26th, 2016 10:50 AM

I hope they break the tradition and use multitype gyms.

Dark type and Water type are mostly linked to the moon.

I could see a Water/Dark gym.

Roaring Moon February 26th, 2016 11:06 AM

Agreeing with the majority here that there needs to be a Dark type gym. It's way overdue!

pkmin3033 February 26th, 2016 11:29 AM

I really want a Normal-type Elite Four member. We've never had one of those; it'd be a nice change from the standard Dragon users we're always getting. I expect we'll wind up with a Fairy-type Elite Four member as well.

Version exclusive Gym Leaders would be awesome, too. It'll never happen, but I'd love it if it did. It'd really personalise the experience, and give me an excuse to play both versions myself for a change.

MarioManH February 26th, 2016 11:31 AM

I'd like to see the Elite Four have a bigger role in the story or post-story in this game. They're supposed to be the strongest trainers in the game and yet they mostly just sit in a room and have very little character development. If the region (or world) is in crisis I would like to see them take a bigger role, like Steven/Wallace did when the whole planet was getting wrecked by Kyogre and Groudon.

Hikamaru February 26th, 2016 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Meloetta (Post 9135725)
Version exclusive Gym Leaders would be awesome, too. It'll never happen, but I'd love it if it did. It'd really personalise the experience, and give me an excuse to play both versions myself for a change.

Black & White says hello. Drayden was only battled in the former, and Iris in the latter. Probably don't expect it again but whatever.

BettyNewbie February 26th, 2016 11:48 AM

What I mainly want to see are things that haven't been done before. Not just a Dark gym, but an Ice gym that isn't 7th or 8th, a Steel gym than isn't 6th, a Rock gym that isn't 1st, a new female Water specialist, a new male Ghost specialist, an Electric specialist who isn't light-haired, stuff like that.

As for the Elite Four, please let them use types besides the overdone Ice/Fighting/Ghost/Dragon/Psychic/Dark. Just because the Indigo League used those types doesn't mean that every single other E4 needs to have those types, too. I'll still never forgive Hoenn and Unova for so blatantly regurgitating the Indigo E4 types when they could've easily done something else, something that Sinnoh (Bug/Ground/Fire/Psychic) and even Kalos (Fire/Steel/Water/Dragon) deserve kudos for.

And, speaking of the E4, can GF start treating their characters with respect? They're supposed to be the region's strongest trainers, yet are usually more cardboard and less developed than even the most boring Gym Leaders. They were the only important trainers excluded from the PWT, and they're rarely, if ever, seen on the anime.

pkmin3033 February 26th, 2016 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9135756)
Black & White says hello. Drayden was only battled in the former, and Iris in the latter. Probably don't expect it again but whatever.

I was thinking more along the lines of all of them being exclusive, rather than just one or two~

Also, having some Gym Leader antagonists again would be great! Haven't had one of those since Giovanni, and it was nice battling him at the end of the first gen games in a more official capacity; it was a nice resolution to things.

Sirfetch’d February 26th, 2016 5:46 PM

I think something cool might be version exclusive leaders for the last gym! For the Sun version we could have a Fairy typed gym leader and for Moon we could finally get that much anticipated Dark gym leader. BW had this but both were a Dragon leader so this would be a little different. Would be cool to have a little more distinction between the two games :)

PageEmp February 26th, 2016 5:53 PM

I want...

Gyms
1st: Dark(first dark gym)
2nd: Rock
3rd: Ice(breaks the trend of the ice gyms being late-game)
4th: A new type?
5th: Fighting
6th: Electric
7th: Stel
8th: I'm not sure yet. Maybe Grass.

E4
1st: Water
2nd: Fire
3rd: Ground
4th: Dragon

Just my thoughts tho.

Dedenne1 February 26th, 2016 6:10 PM

I want a freaking dark type gym i mean comeon we have 6 gens it needs to come soon! Plus id love to see a fairy E4's room thatd be cool!

Rivvon February 26th, 2016 6:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TCB (Post 9135214)
Dark type Gym. That's all I ask. Failing that...

I actually want to see the Gyms NOT employ a strict one-type deal. Maybe have Gyms be based around certain strategies, have Gyms do a central theme to them having types centered around that theme. Stuff like that.

See, I used to feel the same way. I would love, for example, a Psychic/Electric Dual-Type Gym where the Gym Leaders are a Double Battle game show host and assistant, or a Water/Fire Dual-Type Gym whose Leader is a fireman.

But my concern is, if that were to happen, we would never get a true Dark-Type Gym, because it would be half Dark, half something else.

Once we get a real Dark-Type Gym, though, I'd be so ready for dual-Type Gyms, or "themed" Gyms (I can imagine Whitney running one of those under the "cute" theme, now that her team is one Fairy- and one Normal-Type Pokémon, for example).
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9135287)
I actually watched this video by a YouTube named MysticUmbreon which is his theory on why Dark-type Gyms currently don't exist. Apparently he points out that Gym Leaders are meant to be a positive, role-model figure who serves to run and protect their city/town, and with Dark-type being called "Evil" in Japan it seems to be against that kind of role.

I totally get that. But the Elite Four can also be seen as positive role models, and we've had three of them specialize in Dark-Types. Our first Dark Elite Four specialist, Karen, is especially noteworthy in how she encourages the player to use Pokémon that they love, rather than simply picking the "strong ones." So ultimately I don't think the Japanese name of the Type should deter Game Freak from making a Dark-Type Gym.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Castform (Post 9136470)
I think something cool might be version exclusive leaders for the last gym! For the Sun version we could have a Fairy typed gym leader and for Moon we could finally get that much anticipated Dark gym leader. BW had this but both were a Dragon leader so this would be a little different. Would be cool to have a little more distinction between the two games :)

As much as I'd like to see version-exclusive Gym Leaders that take BW's method one step further by being different Types, personally I'd rather the Dark-Type Gym not be a part of that. Not only because I'd rather the Dark-Type Gym be canon in all playthroughs, and because I feel it would fall under the same category of "not being enough of a Dark-Type Gym because in the other game there's a different Type Gym" ... but because I normally pick my game based on the mascot, but in that case I'd have to buy the one that has the Dark Gym regardless of whether I like the mascot and other version-exclusive stuff or not...






That all being said, no Dark-Type Gym, no buy I'm hoping the Dark Gym is late-game, 7th or 8th, so it can really make up for all those gens of not having one.

LilBueno February 26th, 2016 8:15 PM

Personally, I'd love to be able to rematch the Gym Leaders. Maybe a system like Origins implied where you can go back to the first Leader after gaining more badges and his/her team and levels change depending on how many badges you have.

Like someone said, I'd like both the Gym Leaders and Elite 4 to have more of a role in the overall region than simply battle once and move on.

Flowerchild February 26th, 2016 9:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Witari S.N.C. PageEmperor (Post 9136481)
I want...

Gyms
1st: Dark(first dark gym)

I disagree. I want a Dark gym as much as anyone, but if it ends up being the first gym it'll probably just be Poocheyana and Mighteyana or something else really boring. Wouldn't you prefer a Dark gym as the 7th or 8th gym with some really cool new high-level Dark-types?

MarinoKadame February 26th, 2016 9:56 PM

Flying was only used once as the first gym and I remember it was hard for most people.


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