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Region speculation/what will the region be based on?
At this stage we don't know anything about the region Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon will be set in, so that leaves the door wide open to speculation galore! Regions are one of my favorite aspects of a main series game, and they're what really define the character and feel of a generation/game. So what do you speculate the region for this game will be like? Or will it even be set in a new region at all?? Share your thoughts and have fun speculating!
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Region Speculation Thread
Two new games, question is, where are they taking place? Would it be in Southern Kalos, or somewhere different? What place did they base the region from?
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Saw the trailer and observed the portion with the Horsea fountain (looks like an aquarium... Because they had pictures of a spheal and staryu on the structure), it feels rather European. Could they use a new region based on say... Germany? And linked to Kalos in later-game?
This game seems to introduce vehicles too... This region should be huge. |
I'd hope for another region based on a place in the world that isn't Japan; perhaps another area in Europe. The French inspiration and culture really shone through in Kalos, and I'd love to see them step outside of their comfort zone and do that again...perhaps Germany, or Spain, or Italy...or the UK. The UK would be best. /notbiasedatall
I want some ancient ruins regardless of where it's set, though. Maybe some with an Egyptian or Aztec motif, just because. Or maybe an old castle to explore? |
I really hope for a story that takes the game beyond the Pokemon universe, potentially into space but on a much larger spectrum than ORAS did in the Delta Episode. I think with the game titles that it's certainly a large possibility that could happen :)
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Well that hotel in the concept art resembled a hotel in Singapore pretty well, so I can assume that this new region will incorporate elements of that area. As for it tying with Kalos...that can also be plausible. It looks like a tropical-esque setting similar to Kiloude City (the palm trees were my biggest sign).
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Going from the picture, it's clearly tropical and the roof design, gives me feelings of Australia, a lot of older buildings in Australia mainly have curved tin roofs. My hope for a UK based region is slowly waning away now (I wanted to see cobbled streets, terrace houses, a lovely countryside, royalty...), but Australia would be great too, I mean, who wouldn't want to see Sydney or Melbourne? (I'd love a reference to my two favorite TV shows too, haha) and Australia would be a great setting for a region, I mean we have some of the deadliest of animals!
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Since they're adding the Chinese language into the game for the first time, I can imagine the region being based on China. If not, I'm hoping for a European based location again like Britain or Italy.
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I think it might be a region south of Kalos.
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Could Kanto Be the Region?
Since Red, Blue, and Yellow Pokemon are compatible with the new games, could the Gen. 7 region be Kanto, only updated with new features and technologies? IMO it would make sense because the games will be somewhat related.
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Hmmm...I don't think so, somehow.I can't really see them revisiting an old region in a brand new game outside of a remake. I got the impression that Red, Blue and Yellow would be compatible with Pokemon Bank to establish that link to the past titles that wasn't present before, rather than as a hint for things to come.
If anything, that link suggests to me a lot of the Gen I Pokemon might not be available in Sun and Moon. I doubt they'll go quite that far, but that'd be the indicator I'd take away from that before a hint of the next games being back in Kanto. |
I would highly doubt it. The titles of these games really don't make a whole lot of sense for them to be based in Kanto and not to mention the art that was shown doesn't appear to show anything that we have ever seen in Kanto. We also have new Pokemon so I am fully inclined to believe this is a completely unexplored region.
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Chase is right, it's more likely a new and currently unnamed region than Kanto.
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No, but there will probably subtle Kanto references throughout the game itself (Oak or Gym Leader or E4 Cameo...?)
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No. I don't think there is anyway for it to be Kanto. The region is tropical, and Kanto is more normal.
Not to mention I do not think they would make new pokemon show up in Kanto like that. Not to mentioned that would be extremely disappointing and probably one of the dumbest things to do. |
I don't know about where in the world it would be based off, but If there's a cold place in the first half of the Game I'll be happy.
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I want a place based on Canada, cause I like Canada. Though, I guess Sinnoh was already pretty similar to Canada and going off of the hotel shown the new region seems to be based on Singapore or some other similar place.
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However, that's only even more of a reason to believe that SM won't be RBY sequels. RBY already had sequels, and threequels rarely work out well. What left is there to tell about Kanto when GSC already gave the region closure? The door was slammed pretty hard on Team Rocket's story, and it would only feel ridiculous and forced for them to return for a third time. And, who wants to see a completely brand new, unrelated Evil Team in an iconic, familiar region? Kanto stops being Kanto when you start replacing all of the old characters with brand new ones just for the sake of story. SM are very likely Generation 7 and will be set in a brand-new region. We could still see an older region return as a postgame storyline, but it's been so long since GF last did that, the odds are pretty low. |
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Well, obviously I meant as the focal point of the story, not as a postgame addition. I didn't think I needed to make that point specifically...but here I am, retroactively stating it. |
I think it will be a new awesome region that is unexplored and full of adventure!
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I doubt it will happen, but I would love that! :3 Except that we might find this map small with all we got now.. I would be nice as an expansion. Like they did in B2/W2. |
I would quit Pokemon forever. I'm not even joking. That would rub me the wrong way. Leave Kanto for its own thing. It had its nice little postgame cameo in Gen II and its own thing in Gen I. It doesn't need anymore. If GameFreak decided to take that lazy path and give us a carbon copy story, I'd be done with them. They have to pull out all the stops this year and give us something amazing and new. Anything short of that would be a huge disappointment, seeing how they've built up Pokemon20.
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Region and Story speculation.
Based on the concept art I'm thinking the region is based on somewhere Mediterranean, I'm guessing Spain due to Hotel Horsea and the Jeep shown and Spain is kinda dry/desert-y.
Story wise, I think its still connection to Kalos, the name of these games are 'Sun' and 'Moon', at first thought you might think Chinese. The sun and moon are also a big deal in Norse mythology. Such as when Skoll and Hati chasing the sun and moon, and when they consume them the world goes into darkness / ragnarok. Thoughts? |
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I think Johto would be more likely than Kanto given the names bring to mind Ho-oh and Lugia. I don't think it'll be Johto though.
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That said, if you're expecting something from this year for that reason, would some games revisiting the earlier region really come across as enough to put you off the games? You might expect some sort of homage to such games, as otherwise it just becomes a series of games which is slightly more hyped up than usual, and perhaps slightly hurried despite the time in-between. Kanto on a 3DS would be weird, however, and perhaps slightly overcrowded and unwieldy, so they may not want to go down that route. |
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During late summer Masuda was in southern France, saying he was "studying" on twitter where he shared images of the sites he saw. This region might be based on southern France which has a more tropical climate than the north. |
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I've heard from people on another form that the region may also be based off of Spain because in 2013 Masuda rook a visit to Barcelona, Spain and really enjoyed it.
As my friend TerraCotta stated; "Barcelona being right on the coast of the Mediterranean. Also two of the artworks shown in the trailer feature the Pokemon Horsea, a Fountain and most importantly a flag. The flag of the Mediterranean flag has a seahorse on it. Some say Singapore because the architecture of many of the buildings in the art we've seen are reminiscent of it. But my money's honestly on Spain." |
Straight from Pokemon website,
"Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon are coming out for systems in the Nintendo 3DS family in holiday 2016, with a new world, new Pokémon, and new adventures to discover!" end of thread right there. |
Not to mention they have remade Kanto like 4 times
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I agree that based on the concept art that the region could most likely based on a country that is bordered by the Mediterranean. Course I bet the country that the region will be based on is either Italy or Greece.
As for story, I am unsure on my spectulation. |
I read somewhere that Masuda actually went to Spain before this announcement. Not really sure if that's true because I don't follow him on Twitter. However, Spain would make a lot of sense. The close proximity to France (Kalos) also gives it the possibility of expansion.
XY honestly felt incomplete. I hope this game does fill up the missing pieces. |
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It won't be Kanto, that'd be really stupid, since it's being advertised as a new generation =/ |
Maybe greece?
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So I doubt it's Kanto, but I'm paranoid and don't trust anything, so I really hope it isn't. I mean, yes, that would be perfect for the series' anniversary, but I'd rather have a new region that has heavy homages to all of the other regions than just... more Kanto. God, I am so sick of all of this Gen I nostalgia. I'm glad you're finally realizing that there are older fans of the series, Gamefreak, but this is really where I'd draw the line. |
Spain sounds about right. Since Spain and France have a history of war, it fits with the war from 3000 years ago. What if Kalos and that other region where fighting over who ascends to the throne, with Kalos wanting it to be AZ and the other region wanting it to be AZ's brother, like in the real life War of Spanish Succesion, well sort of.
That would also explain how, being the descendant of AZ's younger brother, Lysandre is an infuelcial figure in Kalos, because Spain and France became allies after said war. This is taken from my most recent history class which in turn had to be translated, so take this with a grain of salt. It's nothing more than baseless speculation anyways... |
Real world Singapore is really tiny (only ~50km from East to West). If GF were to ever use this island for a region, they'll have to expand it massively, or use parts of Malaysia as well.
As much as I hope for Singapore to be the inspiration for the next region, it seems like a Mediterranean-based region is more likely. |
As someone here mentioned before, do u think the new games have something to do with the SUNdial in Anistar city?
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Singapore seems quite plausible for the region's basis, but now that you think of it, it may be Mediterranean, Italy or Greece maybe (Greece would be a great basis for a region). I was hoping for a UK based region, but that building doesn't tie in with the UK as it seems tropical. Maybe it could be based off of Los Angeles.
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I want them to bring back having tons of Mythical, Legendary, and stationary Pokemon. I loved going around finding all like 13 in D/P/Pt. I also miss them giving you an item that unlocks a Pokemon(I.e. Azure Flute, and Oak's Letter I think for Shaymin), and I like that style more than the distribution events.
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I get the tons of Singapore ideas out there, but I'm gonna be an oddball and hope that it takes place in a region based on Peru or Brazil or Chile. South American countries with plenty of old Aztec or Inca-inspired ruins to explore. And I dunno, every time I think "sun" in a mythical setting I always think the Aztecs for some reason. Plus, that'd be a huge leap out side of Pokemon's comfort zone of doing developed nations. Give some other nations a chance, maybe ones that don't have too much money. Actually, my friend was saying maybe Africa could be a potential inspiration, since the whole continent has so many varying biomes on it.
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Just merged together three threads on this topic. Please check that your thread doesn't already exist before you make it.
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Multiple regions.
Just a thought here but there were mentions of a moondial from a NPC in Anistar City, so I wouldn't be surprised if these games took place to an area close to Kalos. It could well take place in Catalonia which is the northern part of Spain, incidentally this boarders onto France. Assuming these games are a new generation but are some sort of sequels to X and Y, I'd love to be able to travel between the new Region and Kalos just like we could in the Gen II games. |
I'm hoping it's based off of Spain/Southern France, and will be the area south of Kalos, including Kiloude City, where you could hopefully take a train into Kalos. I'm a big fan of Kalos so I'm really biased about it.
I wonder if the various trucks shown briefly in the trailer will end up being anything significant. It's unlikely that you'll be able to drive them yourself, going along with the ten-year-old protagonist thing, but one of the designs looked like a travelling Pokémon Center/ambulance. |
I think I briefly mentioned what I hope to see in the new games. Well I'm going to beef up that list or sorts with more. Again I think I mentioned a couple of these before but eh. As for hopes and dreams I've touched up upon them in previous pages but nonetheless:
An ACTUAL Difficulty Curve: NO EXP SHARE NEAR THE START OF THE GAME. This was the game breaker for both of my regional adventures. Have us train with having trainers whose AI isn't as mind numbing easy, challenging encounter rates, make the Gym Leaders an ACTUAL challenge. I get why they want to simplify the mechanics for the causal, but don't sack rice everything for the hardcore fans who hope for a little more challenge themselves. I'm talking Platinum level of hard. If they can bring back the difficulty levels of B2W2 that'll be great, but if so please have that as an option at the start of the game, not locked behind the post game which by them it can be moot. More Visually Appealing Environment: Already explained what I hope to see. ORAS Hoenn is now my most favorite region in terms of how vibrant things are, and graphically the over world compared to XY is appears to. Even then, I hope that this region feels more organic and not tied down to the restrictive squarish nature that Game Freak employs in the games. While I liked Hoenn the same blocky feel still made the place feel a bit dull. Since I see the graphical improvements of XY -> ORAS to that of DP -> Pl -> HGSS of how a generation improved visually I hope Sun and Moon can do the same. Post Game: I get harken get back the roots for XY had a few pros, it definitely had a lot of cons, especially for the post game, if you can call it that. Outside the Looker side quest it was virtually non existent. At least it felt that way. Especially since it's predesccor has arguably the 2nd best post game ever (behind the Johto based games of course). It was a major letdown. ORAS swung things back in the right direction with its enjoyable Delta Episode and I hope S&M has not only something like that, but other post game areas that B2W2 managed to do. Speaking of one of those things... Post Game REMATCHES: Not even ORAS had them, and while I get these games were mostly tied in with the originals with subtle hints of Emerald, it sucks that the entire 6th Gen had no sort of Gym Leader rematches of any kind. As for Evil Teams/Main Game Advneture Stuff...I've been in the game for so long I just know things won't change to much. It would be nice to have a female leader of said evil team though. Or perhaps this evil team is like a family with a secret organization or something. But THOSE are more of a pipe dreamt hen what was already said I feel. Mega Evolutions: All I want to see is my boy Mega Flygon get confirmed. After that I don't care. Maybe Mega Milotic. Honestly I don't want that many Pokemon to get a Mega, not every final stage Pokemon should really get one. But MEGA FLYGON SHOULD GET ONE CMON GAME FREAK PLEASE |
Are we going to Hawaii?
Simple question, is the region Hawaii? There is a lot of evidence to support this:
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(courtesy of MetagameMajor on Twitter) I also saw this( and then researched on it) elsewhere: Spoiler:
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( from 4chan) It's worth noting that the sun and moon are very important in Hawaiin culture, and flowers are a main symbol for Hawaii. Masuda said flowers would be key this year. And MetagameMajor also pointed out that in the trailer the vivilion used is the ocean one which represents the sun and moon! Which could also link to Hawaii. So it seems Hawaii is very likely! What are your thoughts? |
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Dude, having a Hawai'i-based region would get me so incredibly hyped you have no idea.
This could also link to one of the theories that we could finally have a game set in the Orange Islands. Maybe we can get an anime reference with the GS Ball or something. |
I speculate that they're going to return to their roots, actually.
I know that most people say that the region's going to be based in Spain or that of the sort, but with Pokémon being blown out of the water by other franchises like Youkai Watch, they may try this one in Japan to appeal to their own audience. Personally, I don't mind what region it's set in as long as the gameplay itself holds it's own. I could be wrong either way. |
Personally, I'm still holding out for a Middle East-based region, though it doesn't really seem like this'll be it (unless that hotel is in the Dubai-equivalent or something).
I saw another thread around here that had some pretty good evidence for this region being Hawai'i-based, which I think would be super cool. If that's true, we might even get an anime shoutout in the form of, say, the GS Ball, or Professor Ivy. Of course, having a Spain-based region would be pretty cool. Bonus points if the translated city names are bilingual puns. |
That would be so cool! All the evidence lines up very well, IMO. I've always wished for a more tropical region. Maybe the legendaries are the mentioned hawaiian gods :o
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I think you've shown much more evidence than the Singapore theory did. The truck itself is almost enough to convince me it is Hawaii.
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I'm just looking up Hawaiian god's and goddesses and it's very interesting!
There is a goddess named Hina ("Hina is mostly described as a very attractive, smart, beautiful, determined young woman pursued by men and other creatures. Hina becomes tired of living in the crowd, flees to the moon, and eventually becomes goddess of it.") and a god named Maui ("this mighty demigod is also a trickster deity and a sun god... he physically attacked the sun, beating it and taming it like a beast and forcing it to move more slowly so that humans would have longer days") and if you google image "Hawaiian god" the very first image to me looks similar to the Strange Souvenir! http://www.coffeetimes.com/images/gods2.jpghttp://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/d/d2/Dream_Strange_Souvenir_Sprite.png |
The only evidence that's used to debunk the Hawaii theory is that the mystery bird Pokémon is not native to Hawaii, as it looks more like a woodpecker because of its talons.
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It looks like the state bird just more cartoony, as you'd expect. |
Didn't we find the bird had similarities to the Red crested Cardinal?
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Even if the legends are based on Hawaiian gods doesn't mean it'll be in Hawaii. If so then Unova should've been China, etc.
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I mentioned in another thread about merging with pokemon in a spin-off manga series, and today I've seen this going around.
http://i.imgur.com/I8OSUXh.jpg Maybe there will be something like it or it's just speculation hitting the roof. |
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The evidence for Hawaii is looking pretty strong.
It would be a "safe" pick for the basis of a region since there are no wars or political battles that would make the choice awkward, and no one would be offended by the choice. Plus Hawaii is a pretty popular vacation destination with people from Japan and Hawaiian culture is at least a little bit known to lots of people even outside the US. And Hawaii would let us have a snowy area for Ice-types, too. Mauna Loa is so tall it gets snow even though it's in the tropics. Gimme a Pokemon based on Stitch now |
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Theory: Pokémon Sun & Moon's region will be based on Hawaii
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So you may already have seen this on Verslify or pdwinall, but... I think that S&M's region is based on Hawaii. Why? Well... Strange souvenir. It resembles a tiki, right? Also, the guy said that he comes from a totally new region. And if you look at one of the screenshots, the water-like building resembles a famous Hawaiian building situated in Honolulu. Also, there's a palm tree there. One of the trucks also has a Hawaiian-like car sign on it, with the rainbow thing. |
Actually, I'm pretty sure that building is based off the Raffle Hotel in Singapore, which would point it to being Singapora more than Hawaii. Both have tropical climates though.
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Hoenn had 1 town *Sootopolis* based on Greece while the rest of the region was based on Kyushu. Also..
Dusclops = Cyclops Luvdisc = Cupid Gorebyss = Merpeople So this doesn't say alot. |
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Not to mention the hotel should not be taken as a sure sign. There are way to many Hotel's like that across tropical regions. It's a common trend now a days. |
Place like Nice and Monaco are really tropical, so this could be Southern Kalos.
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Of course, it's production art and it's easy enough to mirror the design, but one wonders why a Japanese art team would draw it that way in the first place since it's not what they'd be used to. |
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And I'll say this. Yes, it does look like the Raffles Hotel more than anything else, but it doesn't prove much at all. Almost every evidence is now pointing at the region being based on Hawaii. |
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Go look picture of South France next the water, you will see palm trees and other buildings similar to a tropical environment. Check Monaco and Nice.
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The fact that there seems to be trucks implies, at least to me that there will be vast lands that can be explored, which totally give me an Australian vibe.
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I can see S&M being the Gold and Silver to X&Y's Red and Blue
...does that make sense? Kalos a few years after the events of X&Y, with a neighboring region being the starting place and another 16 badge run... |
How long it will take for us to get more information about the game ? Such as , New version mascot and starter.
There obviously going to be pokemon who are connected to Sun and moon. Also , Too many screenshot have shown Car so I'm wondering if the player get a car to travel around the region. Some except the new version mascot to be like this -- Spoiler:
My guess The New game's concept is based on Astrology and Magic So We might be new pokemon who are connected to magic and Astrology. |
I think that it will be a Kanto remake because you can transfer pokemon from RBGY.
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Plus about the cars thing if you look at them one of them looks just like the truck from RBGY. Also th character resembles Red
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My thoughts on new region: A tropical Pokemon region
-backpacker from Kalos region He talks of being from a new region, one that isnt any of the already known regions, when spoken to a certain number of times he gives you a “strange souvenir” which looks like a tiki. Now, tikis are generally found in maori (new zealand) and hawiian mythology. -images of gen 7 region during nintendo direct announcement, there were images shown of the new region including one depicting a tropical like area (palm trees can be seen). -Together The fact that the souvenir is a tiki suggests that it would be from a tropical like area, such as hawaii or parts of new zealand, and the tropical like area shown in the pictures of gen 7 announcement could suggest that it is linked therefore to the tiki. I would guess that gen 7 region is where the backpacker is from and that the strange souvenir could possibly be useful to obtaining some kind of legendary in that region or maybe its just a hint. Other things to mention would be that in both maori and hawiian traditions, there are myths and legends regarding the sun and the moon. With this being the names of the gen 7 games could this be another link? Perhaps the story could be loosely based on these myths? Another theory I have is that the new games take place in kalos still, but contain new areas including the tropical area. The reasoning behind this is due to all of the unresolved mysteries in the kalos region, why would they not answer these? Furthermore, there is very little post-game in gen 6, so maybe sun and moon will rectify this by offering new areas to explore. The final clue to this also regards the palm tree, tropical like area, in that we know Kalos was based upon france so, what if the tropical island is based on one of the french owned islands in the Caribbean? Wouldnt be too far a stretch would it? Anyway, let me know what you think, my ideas or theories could be completely wrong and probably are, but I just thought it would be worth sharing and seeing what people think. |
So far, it seems that people are mostly expecting it to be in an Asian or at least tropical location, where the 'sun' aspect at least would be fairly pronounced. However, it might be useful if this location were somehow associated with a desert, or somewhere where both aspects are more pronounced, as this would then create an interesting sense of directionality. It seems like the Sun aspect is also the one which has previously been most stressed, with not only Solrock and sun-themed attacks, but also a plot based around such things to some extent with Groudon, so that it might be complex for them to come up with something entirely new in that direction. Nonetheless, the locations presently specified seem more focussed around the 'sun' side of things than stressing the other one as well, or the moon aspect is left variable, and they may want to address that at some point. I guess they could just have your 'rival' from G/S/C turn up and defeat everybody as the post-game.
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Well, we never got Orange Islands so South Kalos isn't too plausible. Honestly, I say that it will have to be in a new continent *exclude Asia, Pokémon's birthplace* Now I said this before but one city and palm trees prove nothing. What about the Greek Sootopolis city? Anyways, if this was gen 6.5 then GF would have called it half of an era or something like that. So the region with new Pokémon won't have the word Kalos. If anything, my guess is that South Kalos is some type of Sevii island situation. And yes, Zygarde cell can be found throughout Kalos but on GS, Houndoom & Slugma could only be found in Kanto. I point being, the region itself isn't part of Kalos.
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I guess the region could have a warm climate to represent the "sun", while having a lot of bodies of water that would represent "moon" since the moon controls the tides of the ocean, which as we know is literally water.
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And the region could actually be based on multiple tropical places, with it mainly being Hawaii focused. And I doubt these are a kanto remake, if anything the fact that you can transfer pokebank mons to the game, leads me to believe that Kanto pokemon will almost not exist in this region. Also that could be what they mean by it all comes together. You can trade your mons from the very first game to the newest entry. And the player doesn't seem to have a set look. In one shot he looks like Red, but in the one where they show several indoor rooms, the trainer is blond and in all black. So customization seems to be back. |
I wouldn't mind the region to be based on Hawaii, but I think that it'll be based on southern France due to Masuda being there last summer saying he was "studying".
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Well here is more evidence for Hawaii:
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/792673-pokemon-omega-ruby/71534132 I'm still convinced it's Hawaii. |
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Right now I'm leaning towards either Hawaii or Spain. Hawaii seems like it has the most evidence going for it, but Spain is the one I'd most like to see it set in because that'd mean the chances of a Kalos post-game/tie-in are strong. It's seeming most like Hawaii to me right now though.
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I'm going to be joining the masses that believes that it'll be based in Hawaii. I'd actually look forward to something like that! I've got plans to go to Hawaii in the future, so I'd be able to see the culture and landscape that inspired the new Gen 7 region! |
I'm definitely leaning towards it being Hawaii (or at least taking heavy inspiration from it) now.
Probably the thing that (imo) makes it look most like Hawaii is the concept art of the truck. That licence plate totally looks like it has a rainbow on it (I can see a mix of both red and yellow on that licence plate)....and they have rainbows on the licence plates in Hawaii. Everything else seems like it could be contested, but that licence plate looks like the strongest evidence pointing towards this being Hawaii. It doesn't hurt that we've seen also seen a palm tree and Hawaii has Sun and Moon mythology either. |
It would be funny if it's Hawaii, as last time we thought we were getting a Singapore based region it ended up being based on New York City instead!
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Hopefully it's Hawaii, but I don't want too much water.
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Well, they could add diving and whirlpools but this just means more unnecessary HMs and more water imbalance. |
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There is a problem with the region then being over flooded with water-types, unless they can find some work-around for that. |
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Or maybe a ship that'll automatically take us from place to place like in the Sevii islands. |
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