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Sopheria February 26th, 2016 7:23 AM

Region speculation/what will the region be based on?
 
At this stage we don't know anything about the region Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon will be set in, so that leaves the door wide open to speculation galore! Regions are one of my favorite aspects of a main series game, and they're what really define the character and feel of a generation/game. So what do you speculate the region for this game will be like? Or will it even be set in a new region at all?? Share your thoughts and have fun speculating!

Salzorrah February 26th, 2016 7:23 AM

Region Speculation Thread
 
Two new games, question is, where are they taking place? Would it be in Southern Kalos, or somewhere different? What place did they base the region from?

SPECULATE AWAY!

Altius February 26th, 2016 7:29 AM

Saw the trailer and observed the portion with the Horsea fountain (looks like an aquarium... Because they had pictures of a spheal and staryu on the structure), it feels rather European. Could they use a new region based on say... Germany? And linked to Kalos in later-game?

This game seems to introduce vehicles too... This region should be huge.

pkmin3033 February 26th, 2016 7:30 AM

I'd hope for another region based on a place in the world that isn't Japan; perhaps another area in Europe. The French inspiration and culture really shone through in Kalos, and I'd love to see them step outside of their comfort zone and do that again...perhaps Germany, or Spain, or Italy...or the UK. The UK would be best. /notbiasedatall

I want some ancient ruins regardless of where it's set, though. Maybe some with an Egyptian or Aztec motif, just because. Or maybe an old castle to explore?

Sirfetch’d February 26th, 2016 7:43 AM

I really hope for a story that takes the game beyond the Pokemon universe, potentially into space but on a much larger spectrum than ORAS did in the Delta Episode. I think with the game titles that it's certainly a large possibility that could happen :)

TCB February 26th, 2016 7:49 AM

Well that hotel in the concept art resembled a hotel in Singapore pretty well, so I can assume that this new region will incorporate elements of that area. As for it tying with Kalos...that can also be plausible. It looks like a tropical-esque setting similar to Kiloude City (the palm trees were my biggest sign).

Lycanthropy February 26th, 2016 7:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Castform (Post 9135013)
I really hope for a story that takes the game beyond the Pokemon universe, potentially into space but on a much larger spectrum than ORAS did in the Delta Episode. I think with the game titles that it's certainly a large possibility that could happen :)

I really hope so, maybe that will finally give us an answer to the question what Pokémon live it outer space. The region itself could be based on the US then, since that's where NASA is stationed. (And we've already had Japan (a lot) and Europe now, so America might be a very plausible follow-up.)

PkmnTrainerElio February 26th, 2016 8:09 AM

Going from the picture, it's clearly tropical and the roof design, gives me feelings of Australia, a lot of older buildings in Australia mainly have curved tin roofs. My hope for a UK based region is slowly waning away now (I wanted to see cobbled streets, terrace houses, a lovely countryside, royalty...), but Australia would be great too, I mean, who wouldn't want to see Sydney or Melbourne? (I'd love a reference to my two favorite TV shows too, haha) and Australia would be a great setting for a region, I mean we have some of the deadliest of animals!

AliceBlaze February 26th, 2016 8:12 AM

Since they're adding the Chinese language into the game for the first time, I can imagine the region being based on China. If not, I'm hoping for a European based location again like Britain or Italy.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 26th, 2016 8:17 AM

I think it might be a region south of Kalos.

Hikamaru February 26th, 2016 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AliceBlaze (Post 9135150)
Since they're adding the Chinese language into the game for the first time, I can imagine the region being based on China. If not, I'm hoping for a European based location again like Britain or Italy.

There's another thread that's mentioning the new region might be based on Singapore, which is an Asian country, so that seems close enough.

Hikamaru February 26th, 2016 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob (Post 9135135)
Going from the picture, it's clearly tropical and the roof design, gives me feelings of Australia, a lot of older buildings in Australia mainly have curved tin roofs. My hope for a UK based region is slowly waning away now (I wanted to see cobbled streets, terrace houses, a lovely countryside, royalty...), but Australia would be great too, I mean, who wouldn't want to see Sydney or Melbourne? (I'd love a reference to my two favorite TV shows too, haha) and Australia would be a great setting for a region, I mean we have some of the deadliest of animals!

Ah yes Australia would be a great idea for a region design (and I happen to be from Sydney myself), especially with all the unique animal species we have here that could make for good new Pokemon designs (we still haven't had a koala Pokemon yet, really?) and a good number of the major cities here would make for good city designs.

Esper February 26th, 2016 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9135595)
There's another thread that's mentioning the new region might be based on Singapore, which is an Asian country, so that seems close enough.

Most people in Singapore are Chinese so that fits well together. Based on the same thought it could be Hong Kong, too, or maybe Taiwan.

cmtthws92 February 26th, 2016 12:09 PM

Could Kanto Be the Region?
 
Since Red, Blue, and Yellow Pokemon are compatible with the new games, could the Gen. 7 region be Kanto, only updated with new features and technologies? IMO it would make sense because the games will be somewhat related.

pkmin3033 February 26th, 2016 12:12 PM

Hmmm...I don't think so, somehow.I can't really see them revisiting an old region in a brand new game outside of a remake. I got the impression that Red, Blue and Yellow would be compatible with Pokemon Bank to establish that link to the past titles that wasn't present before, rather than as a hint for things to come.

If anything, that link suggests to me a lot of the Gen I Pokemon might not be available in Sun and Moon. I doubt they'll go quite that far, but that'd be the indicator I'd take away from that before a hint of the next games being back in Kanto.

Sirfetch’d February 26th, 2016 12:13 PM

I would highly doubt it. The titles of these games really don't make a whole lot of sense for them to be based in Kanto and not to mention the art that was shown doesn't appear to show anything that we have ever seen in Kanto. We also have new Pokemon so I am fully inclined to believe this is a completely unexplored region.

Hikamaru February 26th, 2016 12:51 PM

Chase is right, it's more likely a new and currently unnamed region than Kanto.

MarioManH February 26th, 2016 12:55 PM

No, but there will probably subtle Kanto references throughout the game itself (Oak or Gym Leader or E4 Cameo...?)

Iceshadow3317 February 26th, 2016 12:55 PM

No. I don't think there is anyway for it to be Kanto. The region is tropical, and Kanto is more normal.

Not to mention I do not think they would make new pokemon show up in Kanto like that.

Not to mentioned that would be extremely disappointing and probably one of the dumbest things to do.

Abby February 26th, 2016 1:19 PM

I don't know about where in the world it would be based off, but If there's a cold place in the first half of the Game I'll be happy.

Why Not February 26th, 2016 1:28 PM

I want a place based on Canada, cause I like Canada. Though, I guess Sinnoh was already pretty similar to Canada and going off of the hotel shown the new region seems to be based on Singapore or some other similar place.

BettyNewbie February 26th, 2016 1:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Meloetta (Post 9135846)
I can't really see them revisiting an old region in a brand new game outside of a remake.

You realize that GF actually has done that before?

However, that's only even more of a reason to believe that SM won't be RBY sequels. RBY already had sequels, and threequels rarely work out well. What left is there to tell about Kanto when GSC already gave the region closure? The door was slammed pretty hard on Team Rocket's story, and it would only feel ridiculous and forced for them to return for a third time. And, who wants to see a completely brand new, unrelated Evil Team in an iconic, familiar region? Kanto stops being Kanto when you start replacing all of the old characters with brand new ones just for the sake of story.

SM are very likely Generation 7 and will be set in a brand-new region. We could still see an older region return as a postgame storyline, but it's been so long since GF last did that, the odds are pretty low.

pkmin3033 February 26th, 2016 1:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyNewbie (Post 9136017)


Well, obviously I meant as the focal point of the story, not as a postgame addition. I didn't think I needed to make that point specifically...but here I am, retroactively stating it.

Smiffy01 February 26th, 2016 1:50 PM

I think it will be a new awesome region that is unexplored and full of adventure!

Mawa February 26th, 2016 1:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmtthws92 (Post 9135836)
Since Red, Blue, and Yellow Pokemon are compatible with the new games, could the Gen. 7 region be Kanto, only updated with new features and technologies? IMO it would make sense because the games will be somewhat related.


I doubt it will happen, but I would love that! :3
Except that we might find this map small with all we got now.. I would be nice as an expansion. Like they did in B2/W2.

AlphaTangoFoxtrot February 26th, 2016 2:32 PM

I would quit Pokemon forever. I'm not even joking. That would rub me the wrong way. Leave Kanto for its own thing. It had its nice little postgame cameo in Gen II and its own thing in Gen I. It doesn't need anymore. If GameFreak decided to take that lazy path and give us a carbon copy story, I'd be done with them. They have to pull out all the stops this year and give us something amazing and new. Anything short of that would be a huge disappointment, seeing how they've built up Pokemon20.

countryemo February 26th, 2016 2:36 PM

Region and Story speculation.
 
Based on the concept art I'm thinking the region is based on somewhere Mediterranean, I'm guessing Spain due to Hotel Horsea and the Jeep shown and Spain is kinda dry/desert-y.

Story wise, I think its still connection to Kalos, the name of these games are 'Sun' and 'Moon', at first thought you might think Chinese. The sun and moon are also a big deal in Norse mythology. Such as when Skoll and Hati chasing the sun and moon, and when they consume them the world goes into darkness / ragnarok.

Thoughts?

BettyNewbie February 26th, 2016 2:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaTangoFoxtrot (Post 9136136)
I would quit Pokemon forever. I'm not even joking. That would rub me the wrong way. Leave Kanto for its own thing. It had its nice little postgame cameo in Gen II and its own thing in Gen I. It doesn't need anymore. If GameFreak decided to take that lazy path and give us a carbon copy story, I'd be done with them. They have to pull out all the stops this year and give us something amazing and new. Anything short of that would be a huge disappointment, seeing how they've built up Pokemon20.

Luckily for you, I don't think that'll happen. The fact that Kanto already has a sequel significantly decreases the odds of it getting another one, and it seems pretty obvious that GF wants to use the RBY VC re-release as a substitute for a new Kanto game/remake, anyways.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 26th, 2016 2:45 PM

I think Johto would be more likely than Kanto given the names bring to mind Ho-oh and Lugia. I don't think it'll be Johto though.

illumine February 26th, 2016 2:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaTangoFoxtrot (Post 9136136)
I would quit Pokemon forever. I'm not even joking. That would rub me the wrong way. Leave Kanto for its own thing. It had its nice little postgame cameo in Gen II and its own thing in Gen I. It doesn't need anymore. If GameFreak decided to take that lazy path and give us a carbon copy story, I'd be done with them. They have to pull out all the stops this year and give us something amazing and new. Anything short of that would be a huge disappointment, seeing how they've built up Pokemon20.

To be fair, that seems to be more about continuity, and hence you might not expect something completely new. As far as new Pokemon, it looks more like something you'd expect from a new region, and in that sense Kanto is unlikely to be involved except perhaps nominally. As said, with Yellow and G/S/C, Kanto has probably been brought up in more variations than the other regions, and hence resurrecting it might be unlikely, although it could happen if they felt the need at some point.

That said, if you're expecting something from this year for that reason, would some games revisiting the earlier region really come across as enough to put you off the games? You might expect some sort of homage to such games, as otherwise it just becomes a series of games which is slightly more hyped up than usual, and perhaps slightly hurried despite the time in-between.

Kanto on a 3DS would be weird, however, and perhaps slightly overcrowded and unwieldy, so they may not want to go down that route.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 26th, 2016 2:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ausaudriel (Post 9136175)
I actually really dig the idea of another story set in Kanto. It's unlikely but it'd be cool to maybe see new places and parts of the region that we haven't seen before.

Wait, where does it say the new region is tropical? 0.o

The region being tropical is an assumption based on the concepts art seen in the trailer. One can see palm trees in the picture with what seems to be an Aquarium or Hotel.


During late summer Masuda was in southern France, saying he was "studying" on twitter where he shared images of the sites he saw. This region might be based on southern France which has a more tropical climate than the north.

AlphaTangoFoxtrot February 26th, 2016 3:07 PM

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Originally Posted by illumine (Post 9136176)
To be fair, that seems to be more about continuity, and hence you might not expect something completely new. As far as new Pokemon, it looks more like something you'd expect from a new region, and in that sense Kanto is unlikely to be involved except perhaps nominally. As said, with Yellow and G/S/C, Kanto has probably been brought up in more variations than the other regions, and hence resurrecting it might be unlikely, although it could happen if they felt the need at some point.

That said, if you're expecting something from this year for that reason, would some games revisiting the earlier region really come across as enough to put you off the games? You might expect some sort of homage to such games, as otherwise it just becomes a series of games which is slightly more hyped up than usual, and perhaps slightly hurried despite the time in-between.

Kanto on a 3DS would be weird, however, and perhaps slightly overcrowded and unwieldy, so they may not want to go down that route.

There's a difference between revisiting regions and just basing a game in a region that's already been done before simply so they don't have to put any work into the games. As a post-game gimmick? sure, throw whatever you want into the post-game. That was one of the charming things about Gen II. As the region the game is based in? I'd honestly skip the games. I would not buy into them rehashing the Kanto region again. It's lazy and seriously lacking in creativity. If that turned out to be their big "20th anniversary" bang, it would break my heart.

Mikachu February 26th, 2016 3:17 PM

I've heard from people on another form that the region may also be based off of Spain because in 2013 Masuda rook a visit to Barcelona, Spain and really enjoyed it.

As my friend TerraCotta stated; "Barcelona being right on the coast of the Mediterranean. Also two of the artworks shown in the trailer feature the Pokemon Horsea, a Fountain and most importantly a flag. The flag of the Mediterranean flag has a seahorse on it.
Some say Singapore because the architecture of many of the buildings in the art we've seen are reminiscent of it. But my money's honestly on Spain."

beanholestatus February 26th, 2016 3:26 PM

Straight from Pokemon website,
"Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon are coming out for systems in the Nintendo 3DS family in holiday 2016, with a new world, new Pokémon, and new adventures to discover!"

end of thread right there.

beanholestatus February 26th, 2016 3:28 PM

Not to mention they have remade Kanto like 4 times

Judge Mandolore Shepard February 26th, 2016 3:48 PM

I agree that based on the concept art that the region could most likely based on a country that is bordered by the Mediterranean. Course I bet the country that the region will be based on is either Italy or Greece.

As for story, I am unsure on my spectulation.

Altius February 26th, 2016 4:25 PM

I read somewhere that Masuda actually went to Spain before this announcement. Not really sure if that's true because I don't follow him on Twitter. However, Spain would make a lot of sense. The close proximity to France (Kalos) also gives it the possibility of expansion.

XY honestly felt incomplete. I hope this game does fill up the missing pieces.

Palamon February 26th, 2016 4:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaTangoFoxtrot (Post 9136136)
I would quit Pokemon forever. I'm not even joking. That would rub me the wrong way. Leave Kanto for its own thing. It had its nice little postgame cameo in Gen II and its own thing in Gen I. It doesn't need anymore. If GameFreak decided to take that lazy path and give us a carbon copy story, I'd be done with them. They have to pull out all the stops this year and give us something amazing and new. Anything short of that would be a huge disappointment, seeing how they've built up Pokemon20.

Literal same to this.

It won't be Kanto, that'd be really stupid, since it's being advertised as a new generation =/

Killua February 26th, 2016 4:32 PM

Maybe greece?

Arylett Charnoa February 26th, 2016 4:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beanholestatus (Post 9136228)
Straight from Pokemon website,
"Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon are coming out for systems in the Nintendo 3DS family in holiday 2016, with a new world, new Pokémon, and new adventures to discover!"

end of thread right there.

I remember that ORAS pretty much had the same description. (Minus "new Pokemon") So I heavily distrust any of this marketspeak. Unless some real person says it in real words, I don't trust it.

So I doubt it's Kanto, but I'm paranoid and don't trust anything, so I really hope it isn't. I mean, yes, that would be perfect for the series' anniversary, but I'd rather have a new region that has heavy homages to all of the other regions than just... more Kanto. God, I am so sick of all of this Gen I nostalgia. I'm glad you're finally realizing that there are older fans of the series, Gamefreak, but this is really where I'd draw the line.

TEXg715 February 26th, 2016 4:36 PM

Spain sounds about right. Since Spain and France have a history of war, it fits with the war from 3000 years ago. What if Kalos and that other region where fighting over who ascends to the throne, with Kalos wanting it to be AZ and the other region wanting it to be AZ's brother, like in the real life War of Spanish Succesion, well sort of.
That would also explain how, being the descendant of AZ's younger brother, Lysandre is an infuelcial figure in Kalos, because Spain and France became allies after said war.
This is taken from my most recent history class which in turn had to be translated, so take this with a grain of salt. It's nothing more than baseless speculation anyways...

Altius February 26th, 2016 4:41 PM

Real world Singapore is really tiny (only ~50km from East to West). If GF were to ever use this island for a region, they'll have to expand it massively, or use parts of Malaysia as well.

As much as I hope for Singapore to be the inspiration for the next region, it seems like a Mediterranean-based region is more likely.

janejane6178 February 26th, 2016 5:15 PM

As someone here mentioned before, do u think the new games have something to do with the SUNdial in Anistar city?

PkmnTrainerElio February 26th, 2016 5:52 PM

Singapore seems quite plausible for the region's basis, but now that you think of it, it may be Mediterranean, Italy or Greece maybe (Greece would be a great basis for a region). I was hoping for a UK based region, but that building doesn't tie in with the UK as it seems tropical. Maybe it could be based off of Los Angeles.

AlexNovember February 26th, 2016 9:38 PM

I want them to bring back having tons of Mythical, Legendary, and stationary Pokemon. I loved going around finding all like 13 in D/P/Pt. I also miss them giving you an item that unlocks a Pokemon(I.e. Azure Flute, and Oak's Letter I think for Shaymin), and I like that style more than the distribution events.

Freddy Fazbear February 26th, 2016 9:46 PM

I get the tons of Singapore ideas out there, but I'm gonna be an oddball and hope that it takes place in a region based on Peru or Brazil or Chile. South American countries with plenty of old Aztec or Inca-inspired ruins to explore. And I dunno, every time I think "sun" in a mythical setting I always think the Aztecs for some reason. Plus, that'd be a huge leap out side of Pokemon's comfort zone of doing developed nations. Give some other nations a chance, maybe ones that don't have too much money. Actually, my friend was saying maybe Africa could be a potential inspiration, since the whole continent has so many varying biomes on it.

Nihilego February 27th, 2016 3:26 AM

Just merged together three threads on this topic. Please check that your thread doesn't already exist before you make it.

blue February 27th, 2016 5:27 AM

Multiple regions.

Just a thought here but there were mentions of a moondial from a NPC in Anistar City, so I wouldn't be surprised if these games took place to an area close to Kalos. It could well take place in Catalonia which is the northern part of Spain, incidentally this boarders onto France. Assuming these games are a new generation but are some sort of sequels to X and Y, I'd love to be able to travel between the new Region and Kalos just like we could in the Gen II games.

kartöflur February 27th, 2016 8:54 AM

I'm hoping it's based off of Spain/Southern France, and will be the area south of Kalos, including Kiloude City, where you could hopefully take a train into Kalos. I'm a big fan of Kalos so I'm really biased about it.

I wonder if the various trucks shown briefly in the trailer will end up being anything significant. It's unlikely that you'll be able to drive them yourself, going along with the ten-year-old protagonist thing, but one of the designs looked like a travelling Pokémon Center/ambulance.

TCB February 27th, 2016 9:35 AM

I think I briefly mentioned what I hope to see in the new games. Well I'm going to beef up that list or sorts with more. Again I think I mentioned a couple of these before but eh. As for hopes and dreams I've touched up upon them in previous pages but nonetheless:

An ACTUAL Difficulty Curve: NO EXP SHARE NEAR THE START OF THE GAME. This was the game breaker for both of my regional adventures. Have us train with having trainers whose AI isn't as mind numbing easy, challenging encounter rates, make the Gym Leaders an ACTUAL challenge. I get why they want to simplify the mechanics for the causal, but don't sack rice everything for the hardcore fans who hope for a little more challenge themselves. I'm talking Platinum level of hard. If they can bring back the difficulty levels of B2W2 that'll be great, but if so please have that as an option at the start of the game, not locked behind the post game which by them it can be moot.

More Visually Appealing Environment: Already explained what I hope to see. ORAS Hoenn is now my most favorite region in terms of how vibrant things are, and graphically the over world compared to XY is appears to. Even then, I hope that this region feels more organic and not tied down to the restrictive squarish nature that Game Freak employs in the games. While I liked Hoenn the same blocky feel still made the place feel a bit dull. Since I see the graphical improvements of XY -> ORAS to that of DP -> Pl -> HGSS of how a generation improved visually I hope Sun and Moon can do the same.

Post Game: I get harken get back the roots for XY had a few pros, it definitely had a lot of cons, especially for the post game, if you can call it that. Outside the Looker side quest it was virtually non existent. At least it felt that way. Especially since it's predesccor has arguably the 2nd best post game ever (behind the Johto based games of course). It was a major letdown. ORAS swung things back in the right direction with its enjoyable Delta Episode and I hope S&M has not only something like that, but other post game areas that B2W2 managed to do. Speaking of one of those things...

Post Game REMATCHES: Not even ORAS had them, and while I get these games were mostly tied in with the originals with subtle hints of Emerald, it sucks that the entire 6th Gen had no sort of Gym Leader rematches of any kind.

As for Evil Teams/Main Game Advneture Stuff...I've been in the game for so long I just know things won't change to much. It would be nice to have a female leader of said evil team though. Or perhaps this evil team is like a family with a secret organization or something. But THOSE are more of a pipe dreamt hen what was already said I feel.

Mega Evolutions: All I want to see is my boy Mega Flygon get confirmed. After that I don't care. Maybe Mega Milotic. Honestly I don't want that many Pokemon to get a Mega, not every final stage Pokemon should really get one.

But MEGA FLYGON SHOULD GET ONE CMON GAME FREAK PLEASE

Z25 February 27th, 2016 10:16 AM

Are we going to Hawaii?
 
Simple question, is the region Hawaii? There is a lot of evidence to support this:

(courtesy of MetagameMajor on Twitter)

I also saw this( and then researched on it) elsewhere:



And the Hotel:

( from 4chan)

It's worth noting that the sun and moon are very important in Hawaiin culture, and flowers are a main symbol for Hawaii.

Masuda said flowers would be key this year.

And MetagameMajor also pointed out that in the trailer the vivilion used is the ocean one which represents the sun and moon!
Which could also link to Hawaii.

So it seems Hawaii is very likely! What are your thoughts?

beanholestatus February 27th, 2016 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Arylett Charnoa (Post 9136333)
I remember that ORAS pretty much had the same description. (Minus "new Pokemon") So I heavily distrust any of this marketspeak. Unless some real person says it in real words, I don't trust it.

So I doubt it's Kanto, but I'm paranoid and don't trust anything, so I really hope it isn't. I mean, yes, that would be perfect for the series' anniversary, but I'd rather have a new region that has heavy homages to all of the other regions than just... more Kanto. God, I am so sick of all of this Gen I nostalgia. I'm glad you're finally realizing that there are older fans of the series, Gamefreak, but this is really where I'd draw the line.

Okay but we knew ORAS were remakes and considering how the direct showed new Pokemon centers and buildings and the fact that they're called "Sun and Moon" and not "X2 Y2" AND the fact that it's the 20th anniversary coupled with the website saying "new world", all points to this being a new region. I completely agree with you that this Gen nostalgia is annoying, I don't know why anyone would want to go back to Kanto for the umpteenth time, but with the amount of time we've had since ORAS and Sun and Moon points to a whole new region, they could have made a Kalos remake or any other region for that matter and put it out in 2015 if they wanted too. Kalos as a second region seems very plausible though.

Tojin February 27th, 2016 10:46 AM

Dude, having a Hawai'i-based region would get me so incredibly hyped you have no idea.

This could also link to one of the theories that we could finally have a game set in the Orange Islands. Maybe we can get an anime reference with the GS Ball or something.

Snoopyfish February 27th, 2016 10:50 AM

I speculate that they're going to return to their roots, actually.
I know that most people say that the region's going to be based in Spain or that of the sort, but with Pokémon being blown out of the water by other franchises like Youkai Watch, they may try this one in Japan to appeal to their own audience.
Personally, I don't mind what region it's set in as long as the gameplay itself holds it's own.

I could be wrong either way.

Tojin February 27th, 2016 10:56 AM

Personally, I'm still holding out for a Middle East-based region, though it doesn't really seem like this'll be it (unless that hotel is in the Dubai-equivalent or something).

I saw another thread around here that had some pretty good evidence for this region being Hawai'i-based, which I think would be super cool. If that's true, we might even get an anime shoutout in the form of, say, the GS Ball, or Professor Ivy.

Of course, having a Spain-based region would be pretty cool. Bonus points if the translated city names are bilingual puns.

Cay February 27th, 2016 11:23 AM

That would be so cool! All the evidence lines up very well, IMO. I've always wished for a more tropical region. Maybe the legendaries are the mentioned hawaiian gods :o

chacha77 February 27th, 2016 11:31 AM

I think you've shown much more evidence than the Singapore theory did. The truck itself is almost enough to convince me it is Hawaii.

Z25 February 27th, 2016 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hibikaze (Post 9137738)
That would be so cool! All the evidence lines up very well, IMO. I've always wished for a more tropical region. Maybe the legendaries are the mentioned hawaiian gods :o

That be awesome! A Fairy/psychic and maybe fairy/dark?
Quote:

Originally Posted by chacha77 (Post 9137748)
I think you've shown much more evidence than the Singapore theory did. The truck itself is almost enough to convince me it is Hawaii.

When I saw the trucks I was pretty convinced. They are putting a lot of details into the cars now, so the license plate being based on real ones would make sense, and helps it a lot imo.

chacha77 February 27th, 2016 11:54 AM

I'm just looking up Hawaiian god's and goddesses and it's very interesting!

There is a goddess named Hina ("Hina is mostly described as a very attractive, smart, beautiful, determined young woman pursued by men and other creatures. Hina becomes tired of living in the crowd, flees to the moon, and eventually becomes goddess of it.")

and a god named Maui ("this mighty demigod is also a trickster deity and a sun god... he physically attacked the sun, beating it and taming it like a beast and forcing it to move more slowly so that humans would have longer days")

and if you google image "Hawaiian god" the very first image to me looks similar to the Strange Souvenir!
http://www.coffeetimes.com/images/gods2.jpghttp://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/d/d2/Dream_Strange_Souvenir_Sprite.png

Pinkie-Dawn February 27th, 2016 11:59 AM

The only evidence that's used to debunk the Hawaii theory is that the mystery bird Pokémon is not native to Hawaii, as it looks more like a woodpecker because of its talons.

Z25 February 27th, 2016 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 9137790)
The only evidence that's used to debunk the Hawaii theory is that the mystery bird Pokémon is not native to Hawaii, as it looks more like a woodpecker because of its talons.

Actually there is this( thought it was in the first post)



It looks like the state bird just more cartoony, as you'd expect.

Abby February 27th, 2016 12:47 PM

Didn't we find the bird had similarities to the Red crested Cardinal?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 27th, 2016 1:13 PM

Even if the legends are based on Hawaiian gods doesn't mean it'll be in Hawaii. If so then Unova should've been China, etc.

Zet February 27th, 2016 2:32 PM

I mentioned in another thread about merging with pokemon in a spin-off manga series, and today I've seen this going around.

http://i.imgur.com/I8OSUXh.jpg

Maybe there will be something like it or it's just speculation hitting the roof.

chacha77 February 27th, 2016 3:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zet (Post 9137944)
I mentioned in another thread about merging with pokemon in a spin-off manga series, and today I've seen this going around.

http://i.imgur.com/I8OSUXh.jpg

Maybe there will be something like it or it's just speculation hitting the roof.

I hope they don't do it.. that would confirm no customization with trainers since it would be impossible to do trainer+pokemon merges if we have customizations.

Esper February 27th, 2016 4:03 PM

The evidence for Hawaii is looking pretty strong.

It would be a "safe" pick for the basis of a region since there are no wars or political battles that would make the choice awkward, and no one would be offended by the choice. Plus Hawaii is a pretty popular vacation destination with people from Japan and Hawaiian culture is at least a little bit known to lots of people even outside the US.

And Hawaii would let us have a snowy area for Ice-types, too. Mauna Loa is so tall it gets snow even though it's in the tropics.

Gimme a Pokemon based on Stitch now

Altius February 27th, 2016 5:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoroarkrules25 (Post 9137838)
Actually there is this( thought it was in the first post)



It looks like the state bird just more cartoony, as you'd expect.

After seeing this, I'm definitely convinced that this region will be based on Hawaii. That new pokemon just looks too similar - pointy back, red head.

GioHiTech February 27th, 2016 7:21 PM

Theory: Pokémon Sun & Moon's region will be based on Hawaii
 
Hey there!

So you may already have seen this on Verslify or pdwinall, but...

I think that S&M's region is based on Hawaii. Why? Well...

Strange souvenir. It resembles a tiki, right? Also, the guy said that he comes from a totally new region.
And if you look at one of the screenshots, the water-like building resembles a famous Hawaiian building situated in Honolulu. Also, there's a palm tree there.
One of the trucks also has a Hawaiian-like car sign on it, with the rainbow thing.

Thepowaofhax February 27th, 2016 7:23 PM

Actually, I'm pretty sure that building is based off the Raffle Hotel in Singapore, which would point it to being Singapora more than Hawaii. Both have tropical climates though.

Master of Memes February 27th, 2016 7:24 PM

Hoenn had 1 town *Sootopolis* based on Greece while the rest of the region was based on Kyushu. Also..

Dusclops = Cyclops
Luvdisc = Cupid
Gorebyss = Merpeople
So this doesn't say alot.

PkmnTrainerElio February 27th, 2016 7:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 9137790)
The only evidence that's used to debunk the Hawaii theory is that the mystery bird Pokémon is not native to Hawaii, as it looks more like a woodpecker because of its talons.

And more evidence to debunk the Hawaii theory is the building, it looks similar to the Raffle's Hotel in Singapore.

Z25 February 27th, 2016 8:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob (Post 9138416)
And more evidence to debunk the Hawaii theory is the building, it looks similar to the Raffle's Hotel in Singapore.

The hotel I posted is from Hawaii. Rast something.... I saw it on 4chan yesterday. Hawaii is quite likely.

Not to mention the hotel should not be taken as a sure sign. There are way to many Hotel's like that across tropical regions. It's a common trend now a days.

MarinoKadame February 27th, 2016 8:35 PM

Place like Nice and Monaco are really tropical, so this could be Southern Kalos.

Esper February 27th, 2016 8:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoroarkrules25 (Post 9137647)
I also saw this( and then researched on it) elsewhere:

If you look at one of the truck drawings the driver is on the left side (as is done in most of Europe and in America) and a quick glance at Wikipedia says that in Singapore, Australia, UK, Japan, etc. the driver would be on the right.

Of course, it's production art and it's easy enough to mirror the design, but one wonders why a Japanese art team would draw it that way in the first place since it's not what they'd be used to.

Altius February 27th, 2016 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob (Post 9138416)
And more evidence to debunk the Hawaii theory is the building, it looks similar to the Raffle's Hotel in Singapore.

You do realise that the design of Raffles Hotel isn't unique in this world, right?

And I'll say this. Yes, it does look like the Raffles Hotel more than anything else, but it doesn't prove much at all. Almost every evidence is now pointing at the region being based on Hawaii.

Master of Memes February 27th, 2016 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altius (Post 9138588)
You do realise that the design of Raffles Hotel isn't unique in this world, right?

And I'll say this. Yes, it does look like the Raffles Hotel more than anything else, but it doesn't prove much at all. Almost every evidence is now pointing at the region being based on Hawaii.

FYI, Hoenn has at least 3 Greek themed Pokémon and only 1 town based on Greece.

MarinoKadame February 27th, 2016 11:52 PM

Go look picture of South France next the water, you will see palm trees and other buildings similar to a tropical environment. Check Monaco and Nice.

Shiny February 28th, 2016 2:56 AM

The fact that there seems to be trucks implies, at least to me that there will be vast lands that can be explored, which totally give me an Australian vibe.

Twilight-kun February 28th, 2016 3:45 AM

I can see S&M being the Gold and Silver to X&Y's Red and Blue
...does that make sense?

Kalos a few years after the events of X&Y, with a neighboring region being the starting place and another 16 badge run...

Famon February 28th, 2016 4:23 AM

How long it will take for us to get more information about the game ? Such as , New version mascot and starter.
There obviously going to be pokemon who are connected to Sun and moon.
Also , Too many screenshot have shown Car so I'm wondering if the player get a car to travel around the region.
Some except the new version mascot to be like this --


My guess
The New game's concept is based on Astrology and Magic So We might be new pokemon who are connected to magic and Astrology.

TheSilverLugia February 28th, 2016 9:26 AM

I think that it will be a Kanto remake because you can transfer pokemon from RBGY.

TheSilverLugia February 28th, 2016 9:35 AM

Plus about the cars thing if you look at them one of them looks just like the truck from RBGY. Also th character resembles Red

Psychotichaos7 February 28th, 2016 9:49 AM

My thoughts on new region: A tropical Pokemon region

-backpacker from Kalos region
He talks of being from a new region, one that isnt any of the already known regions, when spoken to a certain number of times he gives you a “strange souvenir” which looks like a tiki. Now, tikis are generally found in maori (new zealand) and hawiian mythology.

-images of gen 7 region
during nintendo direct announcement, there were images shown of the new region including one depicting a tropical like area (palm trees can be seen).

-Together
The fact that the souvenir is a tiki suggests that it would be from a tropical like area, such as hawaii or parts of new zealand, and the tropical like area shown in the pictures of gen 7 announcement could suggest that it is linked therefore to the tiki. I would guess that gen 7 region is where the backpacker is from and that the strange souvenir could possibly be useful to obtaining some kind of legendary in that region or maybe its just a hint.

Other things to mention would be that in both maori and hawiian traditions, there are myths and legends regarding the sun and the moon. With this being the names of the gen 7 games could this be another link? Perhaps the story could be loosely based on these myths?

Another theory I have is that the new games take place in kalos still, but contain new areas including the tropical area. The reasoning behind this is due to all of the unresolved mysteries in the kalos region, why would they not answer these? Furthermore, there is very little post-game in gen 6, so maybe sun and moon will rectify this by offering new areas to explore. The final clue to this also regards the palm tree, tropical like area, in that we know Kalos was based upon france so, what if the tropical island is based on one of the french owned islands in the Caribbean? Wouldnt be too far a stretch would it?

Anyway, let me know what you think, my ideas or theories could be completely wrong and probably are, but I just thought it would be worth sharing and seeing what people think.

illumine February 28th, 2016 10:38 AM

So far, it seems that people are mostly expecting it to be in an Asian or at least tropical location, where the 'sun' aspect at least would be fairly pronounced. However, it might be useful if this location were somehow associated with a desert, or somewhere where both aspects are more pronounced, as this would then create an interesting sense of directionality. It seems like the Sun aspect is also the one which has previously been most stressed, with not only Solrock and sun-themed attacks, but also a plot based around such things to some extent with Groudon, so that it might be complex for them to come up with something entirely new in that direction. Nonetheless, the locations presently specified seem more focussed around the 'sun' side of things than stressing the other one as well, or the moon aspect is left variable, and they may want to address that at some point. I guess they could just have your 'rival' from G/S/C turn up and defeat everybody as the post-game.

Master of Memes February 28th, 2016 10:55 AM

Well, we never got Orange Islands so South Kalos isn't too plausible. Honestly, I say that it will have to be in a new continent *exclude Asia, Pokémon's birthplace* Now I said this before but one city and palm trees prove nothing. What about the Greek Sootopolis city? Anyways, if this was gen 6.5 then GF would have called it half of an era or something like that. So the region with new Pokémon won't have the word Kalos. If anything, my guess is that South Kalos is some type of Sevii island situation. And yes, Zygarde cell can be found throughout Kalos but on GS, Houndoom & Slugma could only be found in Kanto. I point being, the region itself isn't part of Kalos.

Hikamaru February 28th, 2016 10:55 AM

I guess the region could have a warm climate to represent the "sun", while having a lot of bodies of water that would represent "moon" since the moon controls the tides of the ocean, which as we know is literally water.

Master of Memes February 28th, 2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSilverLugia (Post 9139345)
I think that it will be a Kanto remake because you can transfer pokemon from RBGY.

Just to make it easier to catch them all. If it was a remake, then there would be no new Pokémon or a new region and the titles would have Red and Blue. And yes, that one trainer looks like Red but it seems a bit more feminine and it could be a placeholder. And besides, Serena = Dawn

Z25 February 28th, 2016 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esper (Post 9138463)
If you look at one of the truck drawings the driver is on the left side (as is done in most of Europe and in America) and a quick glance at Wikipedia says that in Singapore, Australia, UK, Japan, etc. the driver would be on the right.

Of course, it's production art and it's easy enough to mirror the design, but one wonders why a Japanese art team would draw it that way in the first place since it's not what they'd be used to.

Interesting note! It could be temporarily. What I'd like to know more, is why the driver looks like a ditto...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Famon (Post 9138929)
How long it will take for us to get more information about the game ? Such as , New version mascot and starter.
There obviously going to be pokemon who are connected to Sun and moon.
Also , Too many screenshot have shown Car so I'm wondering if the player get a car to travel around the region.
Some except the new version mascot to be like this --


My guess
The New game's concept is based on Astrology and Magic So We might be new pokemon who are connected to magic and Astrology.

Corocoro will probably do monthly news for this game. I also think driving is possible, and those legends are pretty cool.

And the region could actually be based on multiple tropical places, with it mainly being Hawaii focused.

And I doubt these are a kanto remake, if anything the fact that you can transfer pokebank mons to the game, leads me to believe that Kanto pokemon will almost not exist in this region.

Also that could be what they mean by it all comes together.
You can trade your mons from the very first game to the newest entry.

And the player doesn't seem to have a set look. In one shot he looks like Red, but in the one where they show several indoor rooms, the trainer is blond and in all black. So customization seems to be back.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 28th, 2016 12:39 PM

I wouldn't mind the region to be based on Hawaii, but I think that it'll be based on southern France due to Masuda being there last summer saying he was "studying".

Z25 February 28th, 2016 12:51 PM

Well here is more evidence for Hawaii:

Spoiler:
My theory starts with the Strange Souvenir that is given to us by a Backpacker who travels between the hotels in Kalos.

You must speak to him on four seperate days, and each time he will say something different about his home region. Finally on the last day he gives you a mysterious item called the Strange Souvenir.

There is a creation myth in Hawaii about a deity named Kane.

"Kane is considered the highest of the four major Hawaiian deities, along with Kanaloa, Ku, and Lono. He represented the god of procreation and was worshipped as ancestor of chiefs and commoners. Kane is the creator and gives life associated with dawn, sun and sky. Kane took a special magical white clay and formed it into a head. Then the three Gods breathed life into the statue and created the first man. The first man was created in the image of Kane."

Strange Souvenir looks exactly like that. A white-colored head, that looks like a man (or a tiki from hawaii), and also worshipped/venerated.

Two more pieces of evidence to add to my theory:

1. An NPC in Couriway Town (old lady) mentions "somewhere in this world" I hear there is a waterfall that flows backwards!" One would think... Hmm.. is she referencing the Distortion World? But she isn't. The distortion world is a "seperate" world, its own entity, the NPC says this backwards waterfall is in "THIS" world, keyword THIS. It's interesting to note, Hawaii actually has a backwards flowing waterfall due to the wind
http://www.world-of-waterfalls.com/is-there-a-waterfall-in-hawaii-that-sometimes-flows-up-instead-of-flowing-down.html

2. In gen 5, we got the "3 musketeers" as a legendary-trio. The 3 Musketeers is a French novel. Was this "green-lighting" the fact that a "France" based region was coming next? If that's the case, have you noticed this: Hoopa (Hula Hoop - Hawaiian Dance), Diancie (Dance = Hula), Volcanion (Volcano -> Mauna Kea -> Hawaii) 0_0

If we see Hawaii, maybe it'll be during 6th gen. Given that Strange Souvenir cannot be placed in bank, so it would have to be transferable to these games.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/792673-pokemon-omega-ruby/71534132

I'm still convinced it's Hawaii.

Master of Memes February 28th, 2016 2:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoroarkrules25 (Post 9139656)
Well here is more evidence for Hawaii:

Spoiler:
My theory starts with the Strange Souvenir that is given to us by a Backpacker who travels between the hotels in Kalos.

You must speak to him on four seperate days, and each time he will say something different about his home region. Finally on the last day he gives you a mysterious item called the Strange Souvenir.

There is a creation myth in Hawaii about a deity named Kane.

"Kane is considered the highest of the four major Hawaiian deities, along with Kanaloa, Ku, and Lono. He represented the god of procreation and was worshipped as ancestor of chiefs and commoners. Kane is the creator and gives life associated with dawn, sun and sky. Kane took a special magical white clay and formed it into a head. Then the three Gods breathed life into the statue and created the first man. The first man was created in the image of Kane."

Strange Souvenir looks exactly like that. A white-colored head, that looks like a man (or a tiki from hawaii), and also worshipped/venerated.

Two more pieces of evidence to add to my theory:

1. An NPC in Couriway Town (old lady) mentions "somewhere in this world" I hear there is a waterfall that flows backwards!" One would think... Hmm.. is she referencing the Distortion World? But she isn't. The distortion world is a "seperate" world, its own entity, the NPC says this backwards waterfall is in "THIS" world, keyword THIS. It's interesting to note, Hawaii actually has a backwards flowing waterfall due to the wind
http://www.world-of-waterfalls.com/is-there-a-waterfall-in-hawaii-that-sometimes-flows-up-instead-of-flowing-down.html

2. In gen 5, we got the "3 musketeers" as a legendary-trio. The 3 Musketeers is a French novel. Was this "green-lighting" the fact that a "France" based region was coming next? If that's the case, have you noticed this: Hoopa (Hula Hoop - Hawaiian Dance), Diancie (Dance = Hula), Volcanion (Volcano -> Mauna Kea -> Hawaii) 0_0
Now your just getting desperate for clues. Diancie : Diamond + Pixie Hoopa : Hooligan + Loop Diancie and Hoopa have nothing to do with the Hula dance. Also, Reshiram & Zekrom are based on Taoism and all three Unova Pokémon were chinese based. Unova nor Kalos are based on China.
If we see Hawaii, maybe it'll be during 6th gen. Given that Strange Souvenir cannot be placed in bank, so it would have to be transferable to these games.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/792673-pokemon-omega-ruby/71534132

I'm still convinced it's Hawaii.

Its won't be Kalos anything. That's for sure. But otherwise, good evidence. But we don't need another U.S rep. I live there and its weary

Sopheria February 28th, 2016 3:50 PM

Right now I'm leaning towards either Hawaii or Spain. Hawaii seems like it has the most evidence going for it, but Spain is the one I'd most like to see it set in because that'd mean the chances of a Kalos post-game/tie-in are strong. It's seeming most like Hawaii to me right now though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoopyfish (Post 9137689)
I speculate that they're going to return to their roots, actually.
I know that most people say that the region's going to be based in Spain or that of the sort, but with Pokémon being blown out of the water by other franchises like Youkai Watch, they may try this one in Japan to appeal to their own audience.

I'm not sure it'll be based in Japan again. From the palm trees in the concept art, it looks like it'll be set in a tropic area, and the only tropical area of Japan is Kyushu, which Hoenn is already based on. Maybe it's set in another part of Kyushu? Doesn't seem likely though (unless they were setting up for some Hoenn/ORAS tie-in, which I certainly wouldn't mind!)

Snoopyfish February 28th, 2016 4:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sopheria (Post 9139922)
I'm not sure it'll be based in Japan again. From the palm trees in the concept art, it looks like it'll be set in a tropic area, and the only tropical area of Japan is Kyushu, which Hoenn is already based on. Maybe it's set in another part of Kyushu? Doesn't seem likely though (unless they were setting up for some Hoenn/ORAS tie-in, which I certainly wouldn't mind!)

I may have to correct myself there.. Aha..
I'm going to be joining the masses that believes that it'll be based in Hawaii.

I'd actually look forward to something like that! I've got plans to go to Hawaii in the future, so I'd be able to see the culture and landscape that inspired the new Gen 7 region!

Sabrewulf238 February 28th, 2016 5:04 PM

I'm definitely leaning towards it being Hawaii (or at least taking heavy inspiration from it) now.

Probably the thing that (imo) makes it look most like Hawaii is the concept art of the truck. That licence plate totally looks like it has a rainbow on it (I can see a mix of both red and yellow on that licence plate)....and they have rainbows on the licence plates in Hawaii.

Everything else seems like it could be contested, but that licence plate looks like the strongest evidence pointing towards this being Hawaii. It doesn't hurt that we've seen also seen a palm tree and Hawaii has Sun and Moon mythology either.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 28th, 2016 5:11 PM

It would be funny if it's Hawaii, as last time we thought we were getting a Singapore based region it ended up being based on New York City instead!

MarioManH February 28th, 2016 5:20 PM

Hopefully it's Hawaii, but I don't want too much water.

Altius February 28th, 2016 5:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MarioManH (Post 9140038)
Hopefully it's Hawaii, but I don't want too much water.

This is one of my biggest worries if the region were based on Hawaii.

Well, they could add diving and whirlpools but this just means more unnecessary HMs and more water imbalance.

MarioManH February 28th, 2016 5:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altius (Post 9140051)
This is one of my biggest worries if the region were based on Hawaii.

Well, they could add diving and whirlpools but this just means more unnecessary HMs and more water imbalance.

Haha I was mainly just joking. IGN made a review when ORAS came out about how it had "too much water" and how that reason was a contributing factor to the game having a pretty mediocre score. I wouldn't mind a game where it's primarily island based with maybe a huge island in the corner of the map or the center where there's a couple of towns/cities.

There is a problem with the region then being over flooded with water-types, unless they can find some work-around for that.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 28th, 2016 5:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altius (Post 9140051)
This is one of my biggest worries if the region were based on Hawaii.

Well, they could add diving and whirlpools but this just means more unnecessary HMs and more water imbalance.

If they end up adding vehicles then I hope we get a boat to travel around, without the need for surf. Maybe surfing Pokémon can be turned into a mini game like surfing Pikachu in Yellow.
Or maybe a ship that'll automatically take us from place to place like in the Sevii islands.

Snoopyfish February 28th, 2016 8:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarioManH (Post 9140038)
too much water.

Don't let Team Aqua hear you say that.


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