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Iceshadow3317 September 25th, 2016 2:44 PM

I agree with a lot of what Hikamaru has listed. I might make a Dex thing in a similar style that she did soon. Although I disagree with a few things that is listed. Some pokemon I think will be 3 instead of 2 for instance. Ect. We got to go by different forms that are being released as well though. They are counted as different pokemon and honestly, some of them should be differently named.

But wasn't the Snowman said to have 2 evos? Most of the Ghost Types we get are either basic stage or two evolutions. I think there has only been a few stages that have 1 type.

We also have to look at the Lack of Dark and Ice Pokemon that we have seen. I am sure they will all get at least 1 pokemon. I also still think there is a few more legends from what we know. All and all, I think there will still be 100 Pokemon total, yes, with form changes.

It is also possible that a lot of these pokemon might also have similar form changes. Usually when we get something new like this, a hand full of pokemon also get it.

Spoiler:
Exactly what is the Yukies/Kiris rumor that you are speaking of? I haven't heard anything about it.

Hikamaru September 25th, 2016 3:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IcyIce (Post 9425698)
I agree with a lot of what Hikamaru has listed. I might make a Dex thing in a similar style that she did soon. Although I disagree with a few things that is listed. Some pokemon I think will be 3 instead of 2 for instance. Ect. We got to go by different forms that are being released as well though. They are counted as different pokemon and honestly, some of them should be differently named.

But wasn't the Snowman said to have 2 evos? Most of the Ghost Types we get are either basic stage or two evolutions. I think there has only been a few stages that have 1 type.

We also have to look at the Lack of Dark and Ice Pokemon that we have seen. I am sure they will all get at least 1 pokemon. I also still think there is a few more legends from what we know. All and all, I think there will still be 100 Pokemon total, yes, with form changes.

What Dex thing were you talking about? I guess it was me listing the National Dex numbers or something like that?

The snowman Pokemon in the rumors I believe was mentioned to evolve once. Also, like you said we are still waiting for a Dark-type and Ice-type from the new 7th Gen roster (not counting Alola Forms) so there's possibility we have to look out for those in upcoming trailers or in CoroCoro.

Anyways, regarding my Dex listing, I have pretty much gotten what will be the National Dex numbers up to Grubbin's line:
Spoiler:
#722 Rowlet
#723 Rowlet middle stage
#724 Rowlet final stage
#725 Litten
#726 Litten middle stage
#727 Litten final stage
#727 Popplio
#728 Popplio middle stage
#729 Popplio final stage
#730 Pikipek
#731 Pikipek middle stafe
#732 Pikipek final stage
#733 Yungoos
#734 Gumshoos
#735 Grubbin
#736 Charjabug
#737 Vikavolt


I can't imagine anything else coming after Vikavolt there, but I expect Solgaleo, Lunala, Marshadow and Magearna to take the final four spots in the National Dex order for the 7th Gen segment, with the Tapus likely to come just before them.

Sabrewulf238 September 26th, 2016 1:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9425727)
What Dex thing were you talking about? I guess it was me listing the National Dex numbers or something like that?

The snowman Pokemon in the rumors I believe was mentioned to evolve once. Also, like you said we are still waiting for a Dark-type and Ice-type from the new 7th Gen roster (not counting Alola Forms) so there's possibility we have to look out for those in upcoming trailers or in CoroCoro.

Anyways, regarding my Dex listing, I have pretty much gotten what will be the National Dex numbers up to Grubbin's line:
Spoiler:
#722 Rowlet
#723 Rowlet middle stage
#724 Rowlet final stage
#725 Litten
#726 Litten middle stage
#727 Litten final stage
#727 Popplio
#728 Popplio middle stage
#729 Popplio final stage
#730 Pikipek
#731 Pikipek middle stafe
#732 Pikipek final stage
#733 Yungoos
#734 Gumshoos
#735 Grubbin
#736 Charjabug
#737 Vikavolt


I can't imagine anything else coming after Vikavolt there, but I expect Solgaleo, Lunala, Marshadow and Magearna to take the final four spots in the National Dex order for the 7th Gen segment, with the Tapus likely to come just before them.

Don't forget Magearna is likely not going to be the only mythical Pokemon introduced.

I think there'll be another two at least. (and they'll probably come after Solgaleo, Lunala and Marshadow and possibly Magearna too)

Iceshadow3317 September 26th, 2016 1:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9425727)
What Dex thing were you talking about? I guess it was me listing the National Dex numbers or something like that?

The snowman Pokemon in the rumors I believe was mentioned to evolve once. Also, like you said we are still waiting for a Dark-type and Ice-type from the new 7th Gen roster (not counting Alola Forms) so there's possibility we have to look out for those in upcoming trailers or in CoroCoro.

Anyways, regarding my Dex listing, I have pretty much gotten what will be the National Dex numbers up to Grubbin's line:
Spoiler:
#722 Rowlet
#723 Rowlet middle stage
#724 Rowlet final stage
#725 Litten
#726 Litten middle stage
#727 Litten final stage
#727 Popplio
#728 Popplio middle stage
#729 Popplio final stage
#730 Pikipek
#731 Pikipek middle stafe
#732 Pikipek final stage
#733 Yungoos
#734 Gumshoos
#735 Grubbin
#736 Charjabug
#737 Vikavolt


I can't imagine anything else coming after Vikavolt there, but I expect Solgaleo, Lunala, Marshadow and Magearna to take the final four spots in the National Dex order for the 7th Gen segment, with the Tapus likely to come just before them.

Oops... Sorry! It was Sabrewulf who made the dex thing. I thought it was you. So I might make one like Sabre later to have my listed a little bit better.

I still think there will be 3 more Event Pokemon. I just don't see there only being two when Magerna has already been released, or will be when games comes out. I just don't see them having only 2 movies or the Gen only lasting for 2 years. Unless the 20th movie is a special movie. Not sure how they will handle the 20th Year and Movie, but we will see.


Also that sounds about right. In most cases, they order the National Dex in the order of encounters on Routes. I would say Rockruff would come pretty early on. We will probably be able to catch it fairly quickly. Some of the NPCs on first island have one and so does the Prof.

Sabrewulf238 September 26th, 2016 1:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IcyIce (Post 9425698)
Although I disagree with a few things that is listed. Some pokemon I think will be 3 instead of 2 for instance.

Spoiler:
Exactly what is the Yukies/Kiris rumor that you are speaking of? I haven't heard anything about it.

Well actually in that case there were some Pokemon I expected to evolve but I wasn't sure whether they'd evolve once or twice so I just left it at once.

Spoiler:
The Yukie/Kirsi Pokemon is from the Riddler leak.

Iceshadow3317 September 26th, 2016 3:38 PM

I did not originally plan this to be 110, but it. I was aiming for less, but once I started, I ended up with exactly 110. This is what I would like to see based on rumors and leaks that we have gotten. Obviously there might be a few stand alones that I did not list. Pre Evos come before the pokemon in question and Evo comes after. If there are 2 Evos in a row, that means 2 evos of the pokemon last listed before the evos started.

Spoiler:
1. Rowlet
2. Evo
3. Evo (Possible Split Form)
4. Litten
5. Evo
6. Evo (Possible Split Form)
7. Popplio
8. Evo
9. Evo (Possible Split Form)
10. Rockruff
11. Lycanroc (Split Form)
12. Komala
13. Evo
14. Pikipek
15. Evo
16. Evo (Gender Forms)
17. Yungoos
18. Gumshoos
19. Grubbin
20. Charjabug
21. Vikavolt
22. Pre Evo
23. Drampa (Gender Forms or Dramma)
24. Bruxish
25. Evo
26. Cutiefly
27. Evo
28. Evo
29. Togedamaru
30. Pre Evo
31. Salandit (Gender Forms)
32. Stufful
33. Bewear
34. Mimikyu
35. Pre Evo
36. Wimpod
37. Evo
38. Bounsweet
39. Evo
40. Evo
41. Comfey
42. Evo
43. Mudbray
44. Mudsdale
45. Minior
46. Fomantis
47. Lurantis
48. Oricorio
49. Sandygast
50. Palossand
51. Wishiwashi
52. Pyukumuku
53. Evo
54. Morelull
55. Evo
56. Pre Evo
57. Turtonator
58. Crabrawler
59. Evo
60. Jangmo-o
61. Evo
62. Evo
63. Type: Null
64. Stand Alone (Type: Valid)
65. Pre Evo
66. Passimian
67. Pre Evo
68. Oranguru
69. Snowman Ice/Ghost
70. Evo 1
71. Evo 2
72. Trade Pokemon Line 1
73. Evo
74. Evo Trade Pokemon 1
75. Trade Pokemon Line 2
76. Evo
77. Evo Trade Pokemon 2
78. Pre evo
79. Tucane Pokemon
80. Pink Bunny (Ear seen hopping during dialogue box for a split second)
81. Evo
82. Pre Evo
83. Dolphin
84. Fossil Pokemon Line 1
85. Evo
86. Fossil Pokemon Line 2
87. Evo
88. Dark Pokemon Line 1
89. Evo
90. Dark Pokemon Line 2
91. Evo
92. Ice Pokemon Line
93. Evo
94. Poison Pokemon Line
95. Evo
96. Psudo Pokemon Line 2 (First being Jangmo-o)
97. Evo
98. Evo
99. Tapu Koko
100. Tapu 2
101. Tapu 3
102. Tapu 4
103. Marshadow (Wolf)
104. Solgalio
105. Lunala
106. Water Legend
107. Magerna
108. Mythic 2
109. Mythic 3
110. Mythic 4 (Tapu 5)

Sabrewulf238 September 27th, 2016 3:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IcyIce (Post 9427055)
I did not originally plan this to be 110, but it. I was aiming for less, but once I started, I ended up with exactly 110. This is what I would like to see based on rumors and leaks that we have gotten. Obviously there might be a few stand alones that I did not list. Pre Evos come before the pokemon in question and Evo comes after. If there are 2 Evos in a row, that means 2 evos of the pokemon last listed before the evos started.

Spoiler:
1. Rowlet
2. Evo
3. Evo (Possible Split Form)
4. Litten
5. Evo
6. Evo (Possible Split Form)
7. Popplio
8. Evo
9. Evo (Possible Split Form)
10. Rockruff
11. Lycanroc (Split Form)
12. Komala
13. Evo
14. Pikipek
15. Evo
16. Evo (Gender Forms)
17. Yungoos
18. Gumshoos
19. Grubbin
20. Charjabug
21. Vikavolt
22. Pre Evo
23. Drampa (Gender Forms or Dramma)
24. Bruxish
25. Evo
26. Cutiefly
27. Evo
28. Evo
29. Togedamaru
30. Pre Evo
31. Salandit (Gender Forms)
32. Stufful
33. Bewear
34. Mimikyu
35. Pre Evo
36. Wimpod
37. Evo
38. Bounsweet
39. Evo
40. Evo
41. Comfey
42. Evo
43. Mudbray
44. Mudsdale
45. Minior
46. Fomantis
47. Lurantis
48. Oricorio
49. Sandygast
50. Palossand
51. Wishiwashi
52. Pyukumuku
53. Evo
54. Morelull
55. Evo
56. Pre Evo
57. Turtonator
58. Crabrawler
59. Evo
60. Jangmo-o
61. Evo
62. Evo
63. Type: Null
64. Stand Alone (Type: Valid)
65. Pre Evo
66. Passimian
67. Pre Evo
68. Oranguru
69. Snowman Ice/Ghost
70. Evo 1
71. Evo 2
72. Trade Pokemon Line 1
73. Evo
74. Evo Trade Pokemon 1
75. Trade Pokemon Line 2
76. Evo
77. Evo Trade Pokemon 2
78. Pre evo
79. Tucane Pokemon
80. Pink Bunny (Ear seen hopping during dialogue box for a split second)
81. Evo
82. Pre Evo
83. Dolphin
84. Fossil Pokemon Line 1
85. Evo
86. Fossil Pokemon Line 2
87. Evo
88. Dark Pokemon Line 1
89. Evo
90. Dark Pokemon Line 2
91. Evo
92. Ice Pokemon Line
93. Evo
94. Poison Pokemon Line
95. Evo
96. Psudo Pokemon Line 2 (First being Jangmo-o)
97. Evo
98. Evo
99. Tapu Koko
100. Tapu 2
101. Tapu 3
102. Tapu 4
103. Marshadow (Wolf)
104. Solgalio
105. Lunala
106. Water Legend
107. Magerna
108. Mythic 2
109. Mythic 3
110. Mythic 4 (Tapu 5)

What trailer are you talking about with the pink ear?

Iceshadow3317 September 27th, 2016 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 9427530)
What trailer are you talking about with the pink ear?

This one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oO_P4GX_RA

You only see it for a split second at about :40 in the bottom left corner in the chat box. If you blink you will miss it. It shows pink ears and black on top and it looks like it is hopping behind a trainer that passed by in the same place.

Sabrewulf238 September 27th, 2016 9:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IcyIce (Post 9428004)
This one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oO_P4GX_RA

You only see it for a split second at about :40 in the bottom left corner in the chat box. If you blink you will miss it. It shows pink ears and black on top and it looks like it is hopping behind a trainer that passed by in the same place.

It's really hard to see.

Are you sure it's not a Snubbull?

Charlie Brown September 27th, 2016 9:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IcyIce (Post 9428004)
This one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oO_P4GX_RA

You only see it for a split second at about :40 in the bottom left corner in the chat box. If you blink you will miss it. It shows pink ears and black on top and it looks like it is hopping behind a trainer that passed by in the same place.

Took me a while to see it, but wow that's crazy small. Definitely looks like a hop though.

Coconutteh September 28th, 2016 4:36 AM

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I don't know if the attachment works or not (I'm on a phone), but I tried to get a screen shot of the ears for you!
I also agree it doesn't really look like snubbull though.

Iceshadow3317 September 28th, 2016 11:23 AM

Originally I thought it was a Snubbull, but the ears pop up like funny ears. And Snubbulls is also far closer to its head, not to mention a Snubbull had 4 ear like things while this one only has 2.

It very well could be a Snubbull still and it also could be an Alolan of something. The closest ears I could see it being are both Buneray and Bunelby. Buneray's shiny form is pink, but it does not match the color of those ears correctly. Bunelby's ears are close to matching, but normal and shiny both do not have pink.

The whole video, they were zooming in on the text. I think they were wanting us to see it. They are known to do that. With Espurr, Skiddo, and Rockruff. You blink and you miss it. It is like that for all of them.

kingdenas September 28th, 2016 12:15 PM

I don't know, those ears match Bunnelby's ears, and I don't think they look pink :/ Maybe the text box is causing this effect?

blue September 28th, 2016 12:48 PM

Some people initially thought it was Snubbull, but the ears seem too long to be any known Pokemon. It could be a new Pokemon, I mean this wouldn't be the first time they've accidentally slipped on a new Pokemon to a trailer without officially revealing it.

kingdenas September 28th, 2016 1:02 PM

I mean... I still think it's Bunnelby :/ I might be wrong though ...

Pinkie-Dawn September 28th, 2016 2:02 PM

Wasn't there a tweet proving that the pink ear actually belongs to a Snubull from a different angle?

Iceshadow3317 September 28th, 2016 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 9429202)
Wasn't there a tweet proving that the pink ear actually belongs to a Snubull from a different angle?

Not that I know of. I haven't seen anything about it. Kinda odd to see a Snubbull walking around with a trainer though.

It still looks like it is hoping and by the movement, it is moving toward you, following a trainer, as you can see a trainer right before the ears pop up.

blue September 29th, 2016 3:41 AM

It could just be the angle giving the illusion, but when you look at the artwork for Snubbull, its ears are more fan shaped whilst those ears seem to be more elongated.

Psid September 30th, 2016 6:15 PM

I'm pretty sure it's mostly likely to be Stufful, judging from it's colours that were shown.
Black, Pink and white with a stripe pattern.

Iceshadow3317 September 30th, 2016 7:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psid (Post 9431725)
I'm pretty sure it's mostly likely to be Stufful, judging from it's colours that were shown.
Black, Pink and white with a stripe pattern.

Not so sure about that. Stuffle doesn't have ears that long and the tips white, not black, like the ones we see in the trailer.

I looked at that as well, but to me, it isn't a match. Right now the closest match shape wise, it Bunelby's ears.

Iceshadow3317 October 13th, 2016 9:57 AM

I wanted to bring this up since no one has brought it back to life yet based on the people who play 2 hours of game play.

If has been confirmed by GameXplain Youtube Channel that there ARE new pokemon on Melemele that we have NOT seen. The people of this channel were able to play the first 2 hours of gameplay, but they are not allowed to talk about these new pokemon. This is also an official youtube channel, so I doubt it is a hoax.

This may be a good indication that there are probably, at least, 100 new pokemon.

blue October 13th, 2016 10:11 AM

Interestingly these are new Pokemon on the first island that aren't your typical early rodent, bug or bird Pokemon. Hopefully, this is a good indication to the amount of new Pokemon we're getting this time around.

Iceshadow3317 October 13th, 2016 10:45 AM

According to what they said, they saw a total of 10 to 15 different pokemon between wild and trainers, and that was only before the first trial. That makes me think they didn't get to the cave, water route, or the area behind the Starting village.

We know Pichu, Pikipek, Yungoose, Grubbin, Ledyba, Oricorio, Rockruff, and Tapu (Possibly Ratatta as well) are all on the first island. That leaves a possible of around 3 to 5 additional pokemon that we have not seen that are new that they saw.

janejane6178 October 17th, 2016 3:03 PM

Someone posted it in another forum.
New pokemon?
http://imgur.com/cZJeIFT

Iceshadow3317 October 17th, 2016 3:37 PM

It is confirmed to be a new pokemon. It was leaked on Amazon and Serebii has also confirmed it is real, otherwise he wouldn't post it.


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