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Hikamaru February 26th, 2016 2:03 PM

TMs/HMs wishlist
 
New generations always see a switch-up of moves on the TM/HM list, but what moves are you hoping for to become TMs this generation? Or maybe which HMs are you hoping will or won't return? Feel free to discuss!

Mawa February 26th, 2016 2:08 PM

I hope... we'll get objects and no HM.

I always find myself force to have a HM Slave (or sometime two of them *cough*Oras*cough*) so I can't use all the Pokemon I really want...

Abby February 26th, 2016 2:17 PM

Well the TM situation is a bit odd, as with the gen 1 tm's things are going to get quite crazy.

MarinoKadame February 26th, 2016 2:34 PM

I wish to get riding back.

MarioManH February 26th, 2016 2:39 PM

I think we're over due for that TM Splash... Know what? No. HM Splash. You use it to distract trainers so you don't have to battle them.

Juice585 February 26th, 2016 3:40 PM

Will they continue to be capped at 100? Or will they go more?


Probably can't do more than 100 logistically.

Arma February 26th, 2016 4:06 PM

This may sound a bit far-fetched, but I hope Pokemon get 2 additional moveslots in which they can only learn HM/field moves (which are unusable in battle). This effectively eliminates the use for any HM slaves.

DataFile February 26th, 2016 4:18 PM

I wish that they would retouch the HM system, making them less of a burden instead
of just making them optional, as I think that very blatant NPC roadblocks are much
infuriating and less satisfying to get rid off, than gaining new abilities to conquer them
metroidvania style.

Sirfetch’d February 26th, 2016 5:06 PM

I want a Play Rough TM :)

NeoSpeedFreak February 26th, 2016 5:18 PM

I think the Punches becoming TM's again would be great since we probably won't get move tutors for S/M. I'd also like a Freeze Dry and Rapid Spin and/or Defog TM.

MarinoKadame February 26th, 2016 5:25 PM

I want a Mimic tutor, it was here in gen 3 and didn't came back in ORAS.

Sirfetch’d February 26th, 2016 5:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeoSpeedFreak (Post 9136415)
I think the Punches becoming TM's again would be great since we probably won't get move tutors for S/M. I'd also like a Freeze Dry and Rapid Spin and/or Defog TM.

I would LOVE for the punches to return as TMs. I know there are better all around moves that are currently TMs but the punches are so nostalgic for me that I'd be so happy to see them back :) Who knows though, maybe these games will break the mold and give us tutors.

PageEmp February 26th, 2016 5:38 PM

I really think crunch should be a TM.

pkmin3033 February 27th, 2016 4:11 AM

I'm indifferent to TMs, honestly. Just as long as they continue to have multiple uses I'm happy with whatever they decide to give us. The elemental punches as TMs would be interesting though, as would higher-powered moves like Blast Burn, Hydro Cannon, Draco Meteor etc. I suppose it'd make move tutors obsolete, but I'd prefer to use those to learn egg moves or things like that.

I'd prefer HMs to become abilities you can teach your Pokemon or something, rather than moves you use in battle. It'd just be so much more convenient, because pretty much every HM that isn't Surf or Waterfall is next to useless in battle, and an irritating waste of a move slot. If they're going to keep HMs, they could at least make them moves I'd want to teach my Pokemon.

Abby February 27th, 2016 4:29 AM

I actually like HM's?
I'd prefer if they went back to having 8!

MarinoKadame February 27th, 2016 7:43 AM

I would prefer they remove Surf and Dive as HM and change them to TM like Flash and Rock Smash got changed to TM. It's not like you need a badge already to use them in the overworld anyway, so no need to have more restrictions on it.

Altius February 27th, 2016 7:56 AM

I kinda wish for HMs to be abolished and just become the last few TMs. They could colour code these moves to let players know that they can be used in field.

Otherwise, reduce the number or replace some of the HMs. Some are necessary (Surf, Waterfall, Fly etc.) but moves like Rock Smash and Cut are just unnecessary and unneeded. Either remove them, or replace them with something more powerful... like rock climb!

MarinoKadame February 27th, 2016 8:11 AM

Surf,Waterfall and Fly could already be abolished as HM anyway since the only lock to use them in the overworld is getting a certain badge, you can already use them in battle before the badge.

Some pokemon learns naturally by level up Fly, Dive and Surf.

Rayquaza and Salamence learn fly by level up for example.

Hikamaru February 27th, 2016 9:35 AM

I can see why people want HM's gone, but then we have some that are decently useful in battle, such as Fly, Waterfall and Surf. TM's becoming reusable in 5th Gen was a step in the right direction, but we'll see if how they'll handle HM obstacles in this game.

MarinoKadame February 27th, 2016 9:53 AM

The moves themselves won't be gone tho, they will just be moved to TM like Rock Smash and Flash has.

Palamon February 27th, 2016 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flight (Post 9137591)
Can HMs as a whole be abolished?

Literally what Angie said. Can we just get rid of HMs? They're unneeded.

Hikamaru February 27th, 2016 11:00 AM

Fly may not be the best competitively, but it is a decently good-powered move in casual play. It's only horrible in battle on a competitive scale because the opponent can easily switch to a Flying resist.

Pinkie-Dawn February 27th, 2016 2:43 PM

I just want moves with double battles and triple battles in mind replaced by whatever new TMs will be given by the gym leaders. As for HMs, Rock Smash use to be a TM before changing to an HM move for Gen 3 and Gen 4, only to latter change back into a TM move. Flash would've been a better example, as it first debuted as an HM move. Both moves were needed to progress through the region despite being changed to TMs, making it easier for trainers to replace them back for better moves.

Lunaris Adamantine February 28th, 2016 1:19 AM

I'd just love to see them get rid of HMs altogether. They have always been kind of a nuisance, since most are pretty useless in battle yet you can't get rid of them whenever you please. I'd prefer it is they were more along the lines of abilities. Where you can teach them to Pokemon, but they don't take up a move slot.

As for TMs, I would just like to see them expand on the number of them. Sometimes getting moves is more hassle than it's worth, and a wider variety of TMs would make that much easier. I pretty much want to see all moves as a TM, except those that are species exclusive or meant to be for only a few species.

yhAnz March 21st, 2016 7:47 PM

How about removing Fly? They already can fly lol :)


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