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The fate of Pokemon Amie and Super Training?
Do you think these new games will keep the Pokemon Amie and Super Training Mini Games? If so, do you think they'll be enchanted/updated or left alone?
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Super Training I think they'll keep in, it's a great way to EV train easily and I doubt they'll want to take that out. It might receive a slight update, maybe in the form of some different minigames, but I'd be very surprised if they removed it completely.
Pokemon Amie, however, I think has a higher chance of being removed...it feels and sounds very much like a Kalos-exclusive feature and, whilst that leaves Sylveon's evolutionary method up in the air, I'd honestly be very glad to see the back of it. Besides, with all this Fire Emblem controversy going on in other quarters, I'm getting the message that petting anything is bad. |
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I can however see it phasing out in the new generation, and Sylveon's evolution requiring a specific held item or something like how Espeon or Umbreon was obtained in XD Gale of Darkness when there was no time feature. However, I can also see the potential for it staying with the series too, since it seems to be part of a 'package' with Super Training and PSS, and PSS is extremely useful and pivotal so I don't think that's going anywhere anytime soon. I think we'll just get some kind of upgrade with all of those features, like the PokéGear in Gen II being replaced with the PokéNav in Gen III, then the Pokétch in Gen IV, etc. We'll just have to wait and see though, because the Pokétch included a ton of amazing features that were all left behind. |
I think Super Training would mainly stick around due to the competitive fanbase and their frequent use of EV training. Pokemon Amie however, is at risk of being removed and that will likely cause Eevee's evolution method for Sylveon to have to be altered to cope with the feature's removal. I still hope Amie stays because it's nice to pet your Pokemon.
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I think both will remain, as they aren't exclusive to Kalos.
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I think they'll stick around. Being able to pet and interact with your Pokemon is HUGE and so is being able to train your Pokemon. If they were to bring back the Pokemon following you I could actually see those features being moved to a menu that appears when you try to talk to your Pokemon. (rather than have it being part of the bottom screen, which they'll probably want to keep free for some other innovative idea)
Personally I'm more worried about the DexNav feature introduced in ORAS never being seen again. |
I think both will stay. EV training is too popular and is what is making the game almost near an E Sport. I wouldn't mind it it disappears though. I find the idea of it very annoying to use and takes a ton of time.
I think Amie will return unless they find a replacer for it. Amie basically replaced Pokemon Dream World. Although I preferred Dream World better. They are trying to increase the amount people interact with one another. That is the entirety of their plan. I don't think they would remove something like Amie even though it is only indirect contact. I think Amie will be updated and will allow different interactions over the internet with other people. However, Amie can also be easily removed. All they have to do is require max happiness, make your Eevee wear a specific item and have it know a Fairy Type Attack. |
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I definitely think that Super Training will stick around. It seems they're trying to make getting into competitive more accessible than it was before. And they'll probably enhance it and add extra features and conveniences to it.
As for Amie, I'm about 50-50 on that. It could come back because all they'd have to do was copypaste it in there and just add extra interactions for whatever amount of new Pokemon they'll be adding. But it could also easily be removed because they can't be bothered to add the new Pokemon interactions to it or because they don't find it "necessary to the theme of the new region" or some poorly explained bullshit like that. I don't really mind if it goes, to be honest. I'd rather it be replaced with Pokemon following you because that just feels more... real to me. (Amie just feels like you're petting your Pokemon in some random fantasy world disconnected to all of reality and also seems really redundant because Happiness exists) An ideal situation that isn't going to happen though is connecting Amie to Pokemon following you and having them have different reactions on the overworld based on what you've done with them in Amie. |
I hope they keep it, it changed pokemon for me.
*hopes that the very serious sounding words will convince game freak to keep it. |
If they ever remove the Pokémon Amie, this would be my reaction:
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Though seriously Amie is one of the main reasons I play Pokémon, being actually able to treat them like living things is pretty huge in my book. I don't even want to evolve some of my Pokémon in White 2, because I want to play with them in amie in 6th gen once I have beaten the game. |
I used Amie once and never used it again.
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Those two features are really popular, to both causal and competitive players. It would be a shame if those were dropped. I would want to see them retooled however, especially for Amie, seeing how 'Affection' and 'Happiness' are two separate attributes, but for the former it just feels arbitrary in some cases.
However, if a certain interview with Sugimori is anything, then I am a bit worried with just how 'simplified' SuMo will be and how/if Amie and Super Training could be a consequence of it: Quote:
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I think the fact that this is in question is hilariously sad. GF has done a very poor job of steadily polishing their games. In some ways it feels like they don't take the time to think anything through; they are just throwing ideas out and so when something doesn't pan out in one gen, they ditch it for something else. That's not to say that they do that with all features, but I think they milk stuff because they can and then as a fan base, there is no general outcry that things get shuffled around each generation for literally no reason. Contests were a perfect example, I thought those were an amazing non-combat addition, but they were gone in Gen IV and no one batted an eye lash. Nothing replaced it either, it was just not part of the game at all, ha ha. I don't get why you wouldn't polish up features and continue to build on your games, instead of throwing in some new quirk every gen and calling it region exclusive. That's my bitter side showing though.
Amie will be around to stay. It is way too "Nintendogs" to ever go away. Here's hoping they polish it up a bit, but at the very least, it does give that sensation of being able to bond with your Pokemon. So I don't think it will get axed. |
I highly welcome Pokemon Amie in making a return whether it be improved or be the same ol' system.
As for Super Training, this got many complaints from players who saw this as the other broken aspect of Gen 6 other than the ridiculous EXP Share. I used to be highly positive with Super Training until i realized that by doing it a lot, it made playing the in-game story so easy when you EV train your mon so well that you are able to take on content in lower base levels than usual, since mons from in-game NPCs usually never had EVs, thus you had that very unfair advantage. I feel that if Super training ever makes a return, there might be some significant changes such as when can you Super Train your mon, and the number of times you can conduct Super Training per Day based on the 3DS time. I'd like to see something like a level requirement range to when a mon can undergo Super Training and something like that. I remember playing Y where i just super trained even during the early game and ROFL stomped most of the content. Then again, Super Training was fun and it provided a nice alternative to things players could do other than walk around, check bushes, battle trainers, and ransack their poor pockets. |
I think ST would be replaced with something else and Amie would be improved upon like being able to do more things with them as well as special actions with them like tickling them, hugging them, or playing with two Pokemon at the same time and having both of them talk to each other (and you can tag along) as well as being more dynamic. At least that's what I want... A
POKEMON COMPANY, PLEASE MAKE AMIE AN APP ON THE PHONE. SELECT ANY POKEMON, TRANSFER ONE FROM YOUR 3DS, BUY FROM PET STORE WITH FICTIONAL MONEY AND BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM THE SAME WAY AS YOU DO IN THE 3DS BUT MORE OPTIONS. WAY MORE OPTIONS. PLEASE. THIS IS AN AMAZING IDEA AS A FAN OF CUTE POKEMON. |
Since every generation has its own generation-specific features, I wouldn't be too surprised if Pokémon Amie and Super Training didn't end up getting carried over to Sun & Moon, provided Sun & Moon are indeed a new generation. I think Affection will still be a feature, but they may find a new way for you to increase it in lieu of Pokémon Amie--maybe something similar to Amie, perhaps they'll bring back following Pokémon, or maybe there will be some place that allows you to interact with your Pokémon in the overworld, for example. I'd like all of those much better than Pokémon Amie, but at the same time, I wouldn't mind Amie coming back either.
Same with Super Training, maybe they'll introduce a new mini-game that allows us to EV train our Pokémon. Quote:
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It's true. If Pokemon Amie does get removed I'm sure they'll make a change to Eevee's evolution method for Sylveon given Amie is currently needed to evolve it.
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Well, it wouldn't be the first time they've changed an evolution method due to a scrapped mechanic; Feebas used to evolve with maxxed beauty pre-Gen V, after all...honestly I prefer the Prism Scale method, it made life a lot easier.
If Amie DOES stay in the next games, I can imagine more Pokemon needing it for evolution. But then, if they're thinking about simplifying the games, wouldn't it make more sense to cut Amie out? It needlessly complicates affection and even gives it in-battle effects. |
When Feebas did revert to beauty in ORAS, they did at least make it easier. However, while I loved Pokemon Amie, I could understand it being removed and if it's the case, they'll just give Eevee a new held item to evolve into Sylveon with, a la Gligar's Razor Fang, Sneasel's Razor Claw, Happiny's Oval Stone etc.
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As for Super Training, they might give it some new/different/revamped courses, to align with the new Pokémon. They might change they way it's played, too, but unless that change is to make it easier/faster, I don't think it would be a necessary change. |
I think Pokemon Amie would stay in S/M, considering that Eevee needs it to evolve to Sylveon; then again, they might change that evolution up a tad so it just needs a Fairy move and levels up.
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Both should be combined into a new mechanic. For example, similar to the anime/manga, trainers shout things to their pokemon that can change the tide of battle. What they say would depend on the remaining HP number and trainer's personality (nature on card).
Encouragement temporarily boost stats and evasion. Discouragement has the opposite effect and the pokemon might ignore orders or miss. Of course this feature won't carry into the competitive scene. At the end of the battle, if you are the winner, the pokemon's affinity will rise by a few points and you have the option to congratulate by either petting it, feeding it a treat, or skip both. However, if you are the loser, the pokemon's affinity will drop by a few points. |
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