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GymLeaderLance99 April 18th, 2005 12:55 PM

Please rate my YGO Deck
 
Here's the deck I want you to rate.

Monsters
Skull Mariner
Twin-Headed Behemoth
Harpie Lady 3
Earthbound Spirit
Dark Magician
Dark Elf
Relinquished
Neo The Magic Swordsman
Rogue Doll
Familiar Knight
Cyber Jar
Nin-Ken Dog
Double Coston
Big Eye
Spirit Reaper
Pitch-Black Warwolf
Harpie Lady 2
The Stern Mystic
Darkfire Soldier #1
Warrior Dai Grepher
Summoned Skull
Rare Metal Dragon

Magic/Trap
Book Of Secret Arts x3
Black Illusion Ritual
Raigeki
Malevolent Nuzzler
Magic Cylinder
Solemn Wishes
Driving Snow
Gust
Remove Trap
Graceful Charity
Fissure
Card Destruction
Non Aggression Area
Seven Tools Of The Bandit
Jar of Greed
Ultimate Offering
Dian Keto The Cure Master
Magic Jammer
Change Of Heart
Spellbinding Circle
Waboku
Trap Hole
Ekibyo Drakmord
Fuh-Rin-Ka-Zan
Pot Of Greed
Rush Recklessly
Reload
Monster Reborn*
Swords Of Revealing Light

Total- 52 cards

*I use it in unofficial duels

And also, tell me how to make it better.

Mullet April 18th, 2005 1:28 PM

I don't have much time, but I can glance at it and tell what's wrong with it, I can't tell you everything though.

I has to many cards in it, for one. Try to cut it down to at least 45. You have a lot of different cards, the monsters are everwhere. You need more synergy (cards that work well together, ex:Reinforcement of the Army, and Warriors go together). Get sone stronger crreatures. Try to focus, on something you want to do, or achive. Like, what is the goal of this deck? Try the easiest kind of deck to make, Beatdown, which has strong monsters, and equip spells. Then move to something like Beatdown, Control, or try a Warrior deck. I just glanced at the deck and stated it's main weaknesses, I hope I can come back and give you more advice. Hope this helps!
:D

obelisk-kun April 23rd, 2005 9:14 PM

they don't go together i'll give you a combo that has never failed me dna surgery and perfect machine king

Mullet April 24th, 2005 6:25 AM

I'd never play that combo to tell you the truth (sorry), Surgery would get nuked by MST, Heay Storm, Dust Tornado, and Breaker. :dead:

obelisk-kun April 24th, 2005 5:57 PM

but he gets 500 attack for each card played

Static10 April 25th, 2005 3:00 PM

First, I would just like to say that I don't like monsters such as Dark Magician who need 2 scarifices for only 2500. Nothing liess than 3000 unless they have a nice effect IMHO. Maybe cut the book of secret arts for more mavolent nuzzlers and/or ax of despairs. Migh t I sujjest Maha Vajilo? I can't reall spell the name but an extral 500 attack for each equipment it can be huge easily with no sacrifice.

Mullet April 28th, 2005 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokedude55
but he gets 500 attack for each card played

No he wouldn't if the Surgery get's nuked. He can be killed easily too, and two tributes are not worth it in todays enviorment. The only one that is worth it is DMoC. :\

Pogiforce-14 April 28th, 2005 3:52 PM

or Gaurdian Angel Joan.

But the remove trap is bad, the books are bad, gust I don't even see the purpose, Raigeki, Monster Reborn, and Change of Heart are banned, Jar of Greed is no good unless your running exodia...

I'd start with that if I were you.

Mullet April 28th, 2005 3:55 PM

Jar of Greed just isn't good, a one for one draw card is bad.

Pogiforce-14 April 28th, 2005 4:32 PM

In exodia decks it's good, because it means it cuts down on your overall deck total. Btu in any other case, it's just a waste.

Mullet April 28th, 2005 4:40 PM

How many time do I have to say this. If you use that card you'll end up drawing the same card you would have drawn with Jar of greed without this card. So it doesn't cut down anything. Pot and Graceful, are the only drawing cards that should be used in my opinion. One for one is never good. That's why Pot is considered to be the best card in the game becase you give up one card to draw two.:D

GymLeaderLance99 April 28th, 2005 5:31 PM

Thanks for the opinions, guys. I really don't duel much in tournaments, just unoficial duels, so that's why I have Monster Reborn, etc., in there. BTW, do any of you know which packs have mostly Spellcasters because I was focused on them before, hence the Books.

Kenny_C.002 April 28th, 2005 8:59 PM

IMO 1-for-1 draws have their use in YGO (since they're free anyway) to thin out the decks. Generally speaking, if you have extra slots you need to fill, those are the cards to look for anyway...

Syousuke April 29th, 2005 3:05 AM

Im such a noob at YGO now i havent been playing for a year and a 3-quarter whatever if that makes sense. Hmmmm...
So that means,
i havent been up-to-date with the new awesome cards. So i have come, I'am indeed the punishment for your sins.. not ok anyways..
A lot of these cards piss me off completely and I'am superness creeped out by book of secret arts etc from Starter Decks. Even tho i dont know much, at least i know those cards dont work anymore. The new cards just overpower them completely, YGO has been evolving onto some kind of new level. Ohh well.. I hate it anyway.
Im not a fan of rituals.. fusions..
Dark Elfs is super not needed for any deck that ever exists in YGO history. It is one of those cards like Violet Moon that barely do anything.
Get some uh, combination here. Your cards are all.. mixed and running around nowhere and crap. You should get things like, er.. i forget oh well but btw DNA surgery doesnt work anymore. There are too many cards. That hurt it. Cough. And also..
You got all these boring cards like Neo magic swordsman, darkfire soldier, i mean geeeez. They are just too yesterday. Hmmm... cut your deck amount. A bit. Only. Like until 40-47.

Mullet April 30th, 2005 1:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenny_C.002
IMO 1-for-1 draws have their use in YGO (since they're free anyway) to thin out the decks. Generally speaking, if you have extra slots you need to fill, those are the cards to look for anyway...

Hence their only use. :dead:

Marauding Master May 5th, 2005 4:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullet
How many time do I have to say this. If you use that card you'll end up drawing the same card you would have drawn with Jar of greed without this card. So it doesn't cut down anything. Pot and Graceful, are the only drawing cards that should be used in my opinion. One for one is never good. That's why Pot is considered to be the best card in the game becase you give up one card to draw two.:D

That's where you're really wrong Mullet. Deck thinning is an importand factor and this is just the card to use for it. Besides, both Graceful and Jar have the same statistics(+0). Let me explain

Act Graceful Charity:
-1
Draw 3 cards:
+2
Discard 2 cards:
0

Act Jar of Greed:
-1
Draw a card:
0

Why are they both played? Because of deck thinning. That's why Thunder Dragon is getting played more often nowadays. In today's metagame, the thinner you can make your deck to draw the cards you need, the better.

BTW, the only good 2 Tribute monsters are Dark Magician of Chaos and Sacred Phoenix of Nepthys.

Mullet May 5th, 2005 5:58 PM

That's where your worng, Gracful allows you to discard to, making it more useful, for Chaos, and speed, and if you have Sinister in your hand, and discard things in your hand then it's not like a loss, because you drew, and discarded cards that you didn't have use for at that time. Jar of Greed can be used in Exodia, as deck thinning, but most other decks don't use them, the exact opposite of what you said, so Graceful>Jar. Also it gives you more options. I'm sure we can all agree on one thing though, Pot is currently the best card in the game, Vortex is awesome in today's meta too.:D

Marauding Master May 5th, 2005 6:23 PM

Believe me Jar of Greed can be molted into Chaos. But I was talking about Thunder Dragon getting more played, it is also very useable and if you combine it wuth Soul Control themes it is pure pwnage.

Mullet May 7th, 2005 8:35 AM

Thunder Dragon isn't getting crap played. People try to use Soul Contol, but it gets hammered.

Pogiforce-14 May 7th, 2005 10:14 AM

I haven't seen thunder dragon played ever. Long long time ago maybe, but not any time rescently.

I should probably ask you this: What sort of strategy are you aiming for in this deck? We might be able to make this deck better a little better by knowing what sort of strategy you're trying to enact.

GymLeaderLance99 May 7th, 2005 10:47 AM

Well, earlier, I was aiming for a Spellcaster deck, but I don't have many of them so I put in Fiends as well, and I guess I just let everything fall into the deck...

Pogiforce-14 May 7th, 2005 11:04 AM

That's not good. I know it's rather easy to build a yugioh deck by just putting good cards in there and hope they work, because I once fell into that custom. It's important to use cards that support your main strategy. If your main strategy is strong enough, you can use it to carry you all the way, but by thinning out your strategy among different types, you weaken it, and then you ahve to depend on multiple strategies to win. I guess what I'm saying is you need to determine which strategy you work best with, then go with it. drop everything else that doesn't support that strategy.

Marauding Master May 7th, 2005 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullet
Thunder Dragon isn't getting crap played. People try to use Soul Contol, but it gets hammered.

Soul control made it into 2 top 8 slots at the Dutch NAtionals! And Thunder Dragon is getting more played then before. Your meta in your area just sucks.

Pogiforce-14 May 7th, 2005 12:35 PM

I happen to live in that area too, so please do me a favor and don't diss it.

What is this soul control you all are talking about? Do you mean Chaos creatures?

Mullet May 7th, 2005 1:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marauding Master
Soul control made it into 2 top 8 slots at the Dutch NAtionals! And Thunder Dragon is getting more played then before. Your meta in your area just sucks.

If our meta sucks, then why does Soul Control get hammered. We just build better decks than that. I can beat the 1st or 2nd ranked person in my area, but I don't go saying your meta sucks.

Also, it would make more sense if you said: "The meta in your area just sucks."

Oh no, I'm so afraid the Dutch Nationals!
:P

Marauding Master May 7th, 2005 1:22 PM

Yea it would but I'm stupid. And I wasn't talking about Soul Control, but about Thunder Dragons. My advise is to playtest them, just once, see if they work.

Pogiforce-14 May 7th, 2005 2:38 PM

YOu were talking about him in reference to this "Soul Control". (I'm just going to call it Chaos Control from now on.) Thunder dragon is a light, right? Then he woudl be perfect.

It's really too bad though that the reduced the power of chaos by limiting DDWL, DMOC, and banning CED.

obelisk-kun June 4th, 2005 7:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullet
No he wouldn't if the Surgery get's nuked. He can be killed easily too, and two tributes are not worth it in todays enviorment. The only one that is worth it is DMoC. :\

ive got my one magic cards in fact my deck is filled with magics

Forci Stikane June 5th, 2005 6:18 AM

Hey, hey, HEY!! Settle down! This isn't a flaming topic. Thunder Dragon has been used several times all over the place (especially for those who have Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon), and 2-tribute monsters are coming back with cards like Dark Magic Attack and Precious Cards from Beyond, so stop this NOW!!

...Anyway, as for the deck to fix, I can pick out some major problems:

1. Too big. Needs to be thinned out A LOT.

2. Too many Magic/Trap Cards.

Let's try to cut it down:

-Spellbinding Circle
-Fuh-Rin-Ka-Zan
-Dian Keto
-Jar of Greed
-Non-Aggression Area
-Remove Trap (most deadly traps out there are normals, anyway)
-Gust (Why?)
-Driving Snow (WHY!??)
-3 Book of Secret Arts
-Double Coston
-Dark Elf
-Dark Magician (no real use here)
-Rogue Doll

+1 United We Stand
+1 Mage Power
+1 Manju of the Ten Thousand Hands

I can't really help you that much as is...I would be able to if your deck list was better organized...


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