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DarkestMidnight March 7th, 2016 6:55 PM

VGC 2016 Team
 
Aegislash @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Stance Change
Level: 50
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
IVs: 0 Spe
- Gyro Ball
- Shadow Ball
- Wide Guard
- King's Shield

Kyurem @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Pressure
Level: 50
- Draco Meteor
- Blizzard
- Earth Power
- Dragon Pulse

Gengar @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast
- Thunderbolt
- Trick

Shuckle @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
Level: 50
EVs: 252 HP / 40 Def / 216 SpD
Bold Nature
- Rest
- Encore
- Toxic
- Stealth Rock

Gyarados @ Life Orb
Ability: Moxie
Level: 50
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Waterfall
- Dragon Dance
- Bounce

Blaziken-Mega @ Blazikenite
Ability: Speed Boost
Level: 50
EVs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Flare Blitz
- High Jump Kick
- Swords Dance
- Protect


Check it out!

RawrMonkey March 7th, 2016 7:57 PM

I'd really hate to say this or come off as rude but this teams needs a lot of.. not even work, more like a rework.

Mega Blaziken:
Your mega is too frail to set up in a doubles environments with legends allowed and not very viable in general in this meta.

Shuckle:
Toxic and stealth rock aren't very useful either due to timer constraints, the fact that these battles don't last nearly as long as single OU battles completely renders them useless. Shouldn't even be using Shuckle if you actually plan on using this competitively, it's bad..

Gyarados:
Gyarados has the somewhat of the same problem as Blaziken with setting up mainly due to the fact that you're running moxie > intimidate and no bulk. Good luck waterfalling with Groudon's running rampant.

You're allowed two legends. You should take advantage of this and use two. Plus there are better choices than regular Kyurem.

Edit (Was in a hurry and didn't get to finish what I was saying):
As PlatinumDude was able to mention this before me, I'd suggest using Kyurem-White over your current one. If you're willing to use this as a building block for editing your team then it's a great start. This, plus your two ghosts, is about all we can work with.

Gengar:
There are way better sets for Gengar than a choice specs trick set. :/
Most teams, if not all, are going to have a Mega and highly likely a Primal. That is already two Pokemon you cannot use trick against in a 4v4 match..
DO NOT use Focus Miss.. It's a terrible move in VGC because misses are the bane of our existence. Rock Slide's accuracy is bad enough and people are really pushing it with origin pulse and precipice blades.
I suggest running mega Gengar or slapping a focus sash on it.
Having sludge bomb is a must on Gengar with Xerneas around.
Gengar works really well as an offensive and disruptive Pokemon.

Aegislash:
This is about the only Pokemon you have that doesn't need editing, at least not until you have a solid team and then we have to see if it fits.
But if I could only suggest one thing it would be changing gyro ball to iron head. You'd have more consistent damage and a flinch chance on slower Pokemon/trick room users. It's not a necessary change, but worth trying.

PlatinumDude March 7th, 2016 8:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawrMonkey (Post 9152407)
I'd really hate to say this or come off as rude but this teams needs a lot of.. not even work, more like a rework.

Your mega is too frail to set up in a doubles environments with legends allowed and not very viable in general in this meta.

Toxic and stealth rock aren't very useful either due to timer constraints and the fact that these battles don't last nearly as long as single OU battles. Shouldn't even be using Shuckle if you actually plan on using this competitively.

Gyarados has the somewhat of the same problem as Blaziken with setting up mainly due to the fact that you're running moxie > intimidate and no bulk. Good luck waterfalling with Groudon's running rampant.

You're allowed two legends. You should take advantage of this and use two. Plus there are better choices than regular Kyurem.

To add, if you're insistent on keeping Kyurem, White Kyurem is the best out of the three formes, as it has Fusion Flare as an alternate way to hit Steel Pokemon, as well as a significantly better Special Attack to abuse its special movepool:
-Draco Meteor
-Ice Beam/Blizzard
-Fusion Flare
-Earth Power/Ice Beam/Sleep Talk
Nature: Modest
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

DarkestMidnight March 8th, 2016 3:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawrMonkey (Post 9152407)
I'd really hate to say this or come off as rude but this teams needs a lot of.. not even work, more like a rework.

Mega Blaziken:
Your mega is too frail to set up in a doubles environments with legends allowed and not very viable in general in this meta.

Shuckle:
Toxic and stealth rock aren't very useful either due to timer constraints, the fact that these battles don't last nearly as long as single OU battles completely renders them useless. Shouldn't even be using Shuckle if you actually plan on using this competitively, it's bad..

Gyarados:
Gyarados has the somewhat of the same problem as Blaziken with setting up mainly due to the fact that you're running moxie > intimidate and no bulk. Good luck waterfalling with Groudon's running rampant.

You're allowed two legends. You should take advantage of this and use two. Plus there are better choices than regular Kyurem.

Edit (Was in a hurry and didn't get to finish what I was saying):
As PlatinumDude was able to mention this before me, I'd suggest using Kyurem-White over your current one. If you're willing to use this as a building block for editing your team then it's a great start. This, plus your two ghosts, is about all we can work with.

Gengar:
There are way better sets for Gengar than a choice specs trick set. :/
Most teams, if not all, are going to have a Mega and highly likely a Primal. That is already two Pokemon you cannot use trick against in a 4v4 match..
DO NOT use Focus Miss.. It's a terrible move in VGC because misses are the bane of our existence. Rock Slide's accuracy is bad enough and people are really pushing it with origin pulse and precipice blades.
I suggest running mega Gengar or slapping a focus sash on it.
Having sludge bomb is a must on Gengar with Xerneas around.
Gengar works really well as an offensive and disruptive Pokemon.

Aegislash:
This is about the only Pokemon you have that doesn't need editing, at least not until you have a solid team and then we have to see if it fits.
But if I could only suggest one thing it would be changing gyro ball to iron head. You'd have more consistent damage and a flinch chance on slower Pokemon/trick room users. It's not a necessary change, but worth trying.


Looking at this, I realize I kinda didn't put much time or thought into this. I'll try out your suggestions, thanks a lot. Sorry to waste your time!

-Tempest

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 9152434)
To add, if you're insistent on keeping Kyurem, White Kyurem is the best out of the three formes, as it has Fusion Flare as an alternate way to hit Steel Pokemon, as well as a significantly better Special Attack to abuse its special movepool:
-Draco Meteor
-Ice Beam/Blizzard
-Fusion Flare
-Earth Power/Ice Beam/Sleep Talk
Nature: Modest
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll be sure to try it out!


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