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Cartmic April 19th, 2005 3:05 AM

Can somone explain to me the point of....
 
IP banning. I dont understand why, when you can get a second chance from being account banned and no being able to use it due to the ip ban. Also if you have dial up you get a new ip every time you dial. Also theres lots of programs and web sites that can bypass the ip ban.

Happy Dude April 19th, 2005 3:59 AM

Ip banning was supposed to keep really annoying people out.But over time people have found ways to bypass it.

Anyways welcome Back Cartmic

ravenstorture April 19th, 2005 4:24 AM

It doesn't matter if you come back under a new IP or use proxies. The higher staff can see past that, which is obviously something that you guys didn't realize. o.O;

Arcanine April 19th, 2005 7:02 AM

The point of IP banning is to get rid of someone. Like Maca or Jess that joined over and over, their IPs were banned to stop them from joining. Yes there are ways to get around the IP ban. But what are we going to do, just let them stay here and mess up PC?
And it's also (and mainly) for spammers that spam PC. We have at least 6 domains for PC. I got 3 web browsers (FireFox, FireBird and IE). If I was a spammer I could open a tab for them 6 domains on both FireFox and FireBird and I could have 6 different accounts (12 total counting both browsers) and IE is another one. So 13 accounts off of one computer. Now IP banning once would be far quicker then banning all 13 of them accounts.
So there are points to IP banning.

NiNGi April 19th, 2005 7:46 AM

Good explanation, Andy...!

This was actually a question that went through my mind sometimes, although I couldn't bother asking xD
Anyways now I see the point of the IP banning way more clearly... thanks... ^^

John Denver April 19th, 2005 8:35 AM

IP banning isn't perfect, but it's the best system we have...and I think we should always use the best system we have...

Imakuni? April 19th, 2005 11:48 AM

I use a proxy system :) I change my IP every 24 hours now.

big deal, most people are mature enough to leave when they are banned.

Arcanine April 19th, 2005 5:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imakuni?
I use a proxy system :) I change my IP every 24 hours now.

big deal, most people are mature enough to leave when they are banned.

That's what you think. You might be shocked by how many banned members re-joins or wants to come back after getting banned.

Happy Dude April 20th, 2005 2:08 AM

Yeah Arcanine I remember Maca made about 15 different accounts after he was banned. i'll just name a few off the top off my head Thesmurf1,serenity,whatevers and many more.

But isn't there a way you can ban all their ips and never let them back.Because nowdays people can avoid it so so easily.

Kyogre-chan April 20th, 2005 2:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Dude
Yeah Arcanine I remember Maca made about 15 different accounts after he was banned. i'll just name a few off the top off my head Thesmurf1,serenity,whatevers and many more.

Be careful with those kinds of comments, they tend to provoke more ban bypassing.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Dude
But isn't there a way you can ban all their ips and never let them back.Because nowdays people can avoid it so so easily.

Nope. Often times, you'll get more than one person using the same IP address, due to a common server root. IP banning is avoided unless absolutely necessary.

Shinin April 23rd, 2005 6:00 AM

If you have AOL, you can never get IP banned, since it changes proxies everytime you sign on... heheh...

Freenaturearts April 23rd, 2005 8:20 AM

<<:looks at shinin ..huh o.o?

Anyway, I wonder that myself, every time I sign up I have a diffrent ip and if I ever got banned I could just come back, there are also the wireless computers that have the same thing with Ip, shouldint we find some way to banned them and know who they are the next time they come in....Lionheart for one:looks around: I remember lionheart comming back on with another name once... I forgot what it was but we all remember.-_-.
And It would be hard for you to banned one IP adress since it is used maltiple times by hundres of people each day, me and Kelto get the same user IP when we log into netzero for the first time each morning, but if we log on again we will get diffrent ones.
If anyone here dialed up at the Ip addy that someone was banned under, they too would be concidered banned .Thus stoping many users from comeing to Pc anymore and the site could fail from it and get dramatic increases in spam.

This brings me to a question though, since when was shinin alowed back in pc?:is clueless: Did he apoligize or somthin' o.o?

Asura Nirosuki April 23rd, 2005 9:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freenaturearts
<<:looks at shinin ..huh o.o?

Anyway, I wonder that myself, every time I sign up I have a diffrent ip and if I ever got banned I could just come back, there are also the wireless computers that have the same thing with Ip, shouldint we find some way to banned them and know who they are the next time they come in....Lionheart for one:looks around: I remember lionheart comming back on with another name once... I forgot what it was but we all remember.-_-.
And It would be hard for you to banned one IP adress since it is used maltiple times by hundres of people each day, me and Kelto get the same user IP when we log into netzero for the first time each morning, but if we log on again we will get diffrent ones.
If anyone here dialed up at the Ip addy that someone was banned under, they too would be concidered banned .Thus stoping many users from comeing to Pc anymore and the site could fail from it and get dramatic increases in spam.

This brings me to a question though, since when was shinin alowed back in pc?:is clueless: Did he apoligize or somthin' o.o?


Some prehaps all what you said is really offtopic.I know Alot of members that get banned and try to register agian but name telling is very unessicerie.If you wish to know of other info please just contact the mods of higer staff^^.

Kyogre-chan April 23rd, 2005 9:07 AM

This thread served its purpose ages ago. o_o; *reports*

FNA- We never said he was on a permanent ban.


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