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OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 5th, 2016 11:17 AM

Changes to old mons
 
The last two generations have made slight changes to old mons.Gen V gave the Rotom formes their own unique types opposed to keeping the Ghost/Electric they had in Gen IV.
Gen VI gave Pokémon like Pikachu and Alakazam a slight boast in their stats. Do you see GF doing this again? (changes to existing megas and formes are welcome too)

Pinkie-Dawn April 5th, 2016 12:30 PM

I could see changes to Pokemon's abilities, including the Megas, because it's the only way to nerf Mega Evolutions currently in ubers.

mew_nani April 5th, 2016 1:09 PM

I hope against hope that they give them their old cries back. Those remastered cries are jarring and terrible.

I would also wish for Pokemon to be able to learn moves they should logically be able to learn but can't, and for maybe Nidoqueen to finally be able to breed but other than that I can't really think of anything.

Hikamaru April 5th, 2016 1:15 PM

I know both 5th and 6th Gen made some notable changes to older moves and abilities, so I have a feeling 7th Gen might change more moves and abilities from previous generations. I could see a few getting nerfs, but then maybe some weaker moves getting a power boost or some abilities gaining additional effects (such as Lightning Rod/Storm Drain gaining a Sp. Atk boost when triggered or Overcoat gaining immunity to spore/powder moves).

TheKojo April 5th, 2016 1:50 PM

I don't think there'll be any. I'm still under the assumption that these games are gen 6 games in the sense that they can still battle and trade with XY/ORAS. I think these games will just focus on adding new Pokemon in a new region rather than modifying old mechanics or Pokemon.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 5th, 2016 7:00 PM

I think they should boost Run away, Pick up, etc. to have an in battle effect. Or perhaps Run Away can be retired and those Pokémon that had it gain speed boost.

I also would like Mega Alakazam to gain those missing 10 points to it's Mega.

Hikamaru April 6th, 2016 1:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9192519)
I think they should boost Run away, Pick up, etc. to have an in battle effect. Or perhaps Run Away can be retired and those Pokémon that had it gain speed boost.

Pickup actually has an in-battle effect that if the opponent uses up a consumable item such as a berry, the Pokemon with Pickup will use that same consumed item the opponent had, or at least that's how I remember it.

gimmepie April 6th, 2016 3:00 AM

I wouldn't be shocked to see a few other left behind pokemon get a slight boost in their sats.

Sun April 6th, 2016 7:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 9192105)
I could see changes to Pokemon's abilities, including the Megas, because it's the only way to nerf Mega Evolutions currently in ubers.

I agree, they can always upgrade the current existing Abilities, like Leaf Guard and so on. I'm not really too keen on the new fancy things, nowadays. I would personally prefer some major fixings, instead of introducing us into bunch of new things. But then, simply fixing without new toys kinda beats the purpose of new generation/new games. XD

Seiyaryu April 7th, 2016 1:54 PM

I don't like changes to existing Pokemon, it makes it feel weird when I play the original games... Like they're wrong or something :(

Vita2002 April 14th, 2016 4:12 PM

I like the old mods the way they are

elf rat April 19th, 2016 9:14 PM

I can see they adding new abilities, but also, i think it's time to give new evolutions to filler pokemons. I'd like if this region as about 120 new pokemons, and 20 are cross evolutions and the other 100 are completly new lines.

Hikamaru April 30th, 2016 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Seiyaryu (Post 9194672)
I don't like changes to existing Pokemon, it makes it feel weird when I play the original games... Like they're wrong or something :(

I understand you, because I hated how they changed some abilities, like how 5th Gen turned Sturdy into a Focus Sash.

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Originally Posted by elf rat (Post 9209968)
I can see they adding new abilities, but also, i think it's time to give new evolutions to filler pokemons. I'd like if this region as about 120 new pokemons, and 20 are cross evolutions and the other 100 are completly new lines.

I would love to see new abilities, but because of Sugimori saying there's going to be a more simplistic approach, I'll probably expect less new moves and abilities added in this generation.

shubham2207 April 30th, 2016 1:39 AM

Actually, I feel bad for Greninja because in UBERS he is just used as a suicide lead and even he is somewhat outclassed by deoxys forms though it has Protean to compensate for it.
Gamefreak could give it some offensive stat increase or just nerf it a bit so that it can be used in Standard OU plays.

Friezy April 30th, 2016 1:54 AM

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Originally Posted by shubham2207 (Post 9221331)
Actually, I feel bad for Greninja because in UBERS he is just used as a suicide lead and even he is somewhat outclassed by deoxys forms though it has Protean to compensate for it.
Gamefreak could give it some offensive stat increase or just nerf it a bit so that it can be used in Standard OU plays.

Except that Gamefreak wouldn't do that because A) 'Ubers' and 'OU' don't exist officially and B) Greninja is a balanced high speed, frail attacker that has been one of the most popular Pokemon to date.

shubham2207 April 30th, 2016 2:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Friezy (Post 9221340)
Except that Gamefreak wouldn't do that because A) 'Ubers' and 'OU' don't exist officially and B) Greninja is a balanced high speed, frail attacker that has been one of the most popular Pokemon to date.

true, but still, I hope they do it. :(
Also, Ninetales, poor thing doesn't have that ooomph to abuse Drought :(
maybe +20 on spatt

Hikamaru April 30th, 2016 2:16 AM

Friezy is right, Game Freak doesn't like recognizing Smogon's tiers for official tournaments, and Greninja is without a doubt the most popular Pokemon of 6th Gen.

Look at Pokemon like Charizard, Lucario and Blaziken. They are all notably popular due to their badass image, and I could see something happening with one of the final evos of the new starters.

KorpiklaaniVodka April 30th, 2016 4:13 AM

How about Desolate Land Rhyperior? This way he says a big "fuck you" to any water attacker and proceeds to set up a Swords Dance on them, or maybe set up Stealth Rock. It even gets a boosted Fire Punch. :)

More trolling would be Magic Bounce Blissey, that'd be hilarious and she also gets a reason to be used over Chansey. I'd also like Ferrothorn to get Flash Fire, Heracross and Milotic to get Adaptability, Raticate to get Huge Power, Weavile to get Technician and Heatran to get Drought.

I'd like Sandslash and Infernape to get Bolt Strike, because fuck water-types, and Kyurem-B, Zoroark and Tyranitar to get Gunk Shot and screw up fairies like no tomorrow. They should also give Hydreigon a 140 BP special Poison-type move, and maybe Scolipede and Talonflame a 140 BP Water-type move to let them screw their counters up. Hell they can even give Shaymin Hydro Pump or something. Diamond Storm Terrakion/Excadrill wouldn't be bad either.

Hikamaru April 30th, 2016 4:34 AM

I probably wouldn't hope for legendaries' signature moves or abilities to be distributed to other Pokemon, because they are meant to make the legendary unique.

KorpiklaaniVodka April 30th, 2016 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9221439)
I probably wouldn't hope for legendaries' signature moves or abilities to be distributed to other Pokemon, because they are meant to make the legendary unique.

Aegislash got Sacred Sword gal

COOLTRAINER♂ April 30th, 2016 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9221311)
I would love to see new abilities, but because of Sugimori saying there's going to be a more simplistic approach, I'll probably expect less new moves and abilities added in this generation.

I think this is an enormous red herring people are sticking on? He said it nearly 3 years ago and even de-emphasized his stance then, besides, he's the art director and character designer for Pokemon, not a game designer.

Hikamaru April 30th, 2016 5:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KorpiklaaniVodka (Post 9221791)
Aegislash got Sacred Sword gal

Aegislash is a sword, so that kinda makes sense.

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Originally Posted by COOLTRAINER♂ (Post 9221838)
I think this is an enormous red herring people are sticking on? He said it nearly 3 years ago and even de-emphasized his stance then, besides, he's the art director and character designer for Pokemon, not a game designer.

I think I may have misinterpreted some of the statement, but maybe it's a sign the art design may be getting more simplistic, as opposed to the game mechanics.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 30th, 2016 7:52 PM

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Originally Posted by COOLTRAINER♂ (Post 9221838)
I think this is an enormous red herring people are sticking on? He said it nearly 3 years ago and even de-emphasized his stance then, besides, he's the art director and character designer for Pokemon, not a game designer.

We don't know how much influence he has beyond the art. He's been part of the team since the beginning irc, so perhaps his input has more sway than a typical art and character director and designer.

Sopheria May 1st, 2016 12:00 AM

Other than the usual changes in learnsets and maybe a few new evolutionary stages being added, I'm of the personal opinion that major changes like changes in typing, stats, or abilities should be relatively infrequent since they feel a bit retcon-ish.

That said though...retcon or not, it would be pretty cool if they introduced a few changes to Lunatone and Solrock to make them a bit more interesting :)

Rivvon May 1st, 2016 9:36 PM

I don't think any changes will be made due to Smogon's tier placements. If anything, there may be some alterations made, but based on official VGC tournament outcomes. And it would mostly be done to mechanics rather than to the Pokémon themselves--even the gen 6 changes done directly to certain Pokémon was a measly +10 to one base stat. Nothing game-changingly major.

I'd like to personally pioneer the #BringBackPikachusOldCry2k16 movement. I really don't like how Pikachu is the only one in its line who says its name... it's just weird when it evolves...


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