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gimmepie May 11th, 2016 2:39 AM

Electric/Dark it is! Now the question is what ability should we give Mega Luxray?

Personally I'm thinking Contrary might be a good idea. I know that Luxray won't get the STAB off of Superpower that it would as a fighting type, but it's still going to be a powerful move in its arsenal, so we might as well take its drawbacks and turn them into strengths. On top of that it will help scare off potential Landorus switch-ins.

Megan May 11th, 2016 3:19 AM

How about Levitate? Not only does it get rid of its Ground weakness, but it also allows it to become the flying super villain that it always was meant to be.

I'd say Hugh Power, because with some additional basepoints in Attack, even if a Jolly nature, it hits harder than CB sets, while still having the option to change moves.

Alternatively, we could also give it Simple to make use of Howl. However, Intimidate would be pretty devastation, I can imagine.

Earth Traveler May 11th, 2016 3:43 PM

I'm proposing the radical (well maybe not) idea that we create a NEW ability for Luxray. This is because Luxray is obviously a bit, um, lacking in Dark STAB. Crunch, as we know, is its best STAB. So I think we should give some -ate type ability along the lines of Pixilate, etc., preferably for its Dark typing (I think the name should be 'Umbranate') but also possibly for its Electric typing. 'Umbranate' could be very helpful also because it would make Quick Attack a Dark move, possibly making it an actually usable STAB for hitting from its quite underwhelming (at the moment anyway) base 70 Speed.
STAB Return ftw.

gimmepie May 11th, 2016 10:04 PM

I dunno, Crunch isn't exactly a weak move especially with a STAB boost.

Sonata May 11th, 2016 11:52 PM

Strong Jaw or Serene Grace (known in japan as Heavenly Blessing). If we furthered the star motif serene grace would make some sense and could also make luxray quite dangerous with 20% chance to flinch and inflict status with three of its moves and then 40% chance to lower defense with Crunch. but strong jaw is also better for its stability and it makes sense easier with the design. I'ma nominate both.

Etherion May 12th, 2016 1:29 AM

I would suggest: Motor Drive & Aftermath.

The first one would be super helpful if initiated carefully, Luxray could switch in into an Electric attack and get a free speed boost while dishing out attacks. Aftermath would do well with a Choice Band set with Wild Charge/Superpower, plus it's a sinister ability for a Dark-type.

Earth Traveler May 12th, 2016 6:41 AM

Yeah Strong Jaw's almost certainly going to win. It was going to win basically as soon as Luxray became the candidate, so I'm probably to end up voting for that. Well, several options have been nominated, but I feel like if you put a poll in front of everybody, Strong Jaw would probably be the winner. It's certainly not a bad ability but... eh I'll vent later, after the poll.

gimmepie May 12th, 2016 6:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Earth Traveler (Post 9238823)
Yeah Strong Jaw's almost certainly going to win. It was going to win basically as soon as Luxray became the candidate, so I'm probably to end up voting for that. Well, several options have been nominated, but I feel like if you put a poll in front of everybody, Strong Jaw would probably be the winner. It's certainly not a bad ability but... eh I'll vent later, after the poll.

You should share your thoughts now since it might sway the vote :)

Earth Traveler May 12th, 2016 9:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gimmepie (Post 9238855)
You should share your thoughts now since it might sway the vote :)

Fine. Here's my problem with Strong Jaw: I'm worried about Luxray becoming too powerful. I mean, after the Strong Jaw boost and if its Mega Evo gets even a modest +20 to its Attack, it 1-2HKOes some notable Pokemon that are supposed to be walls or bulky (2HKOes Skarmory, Zapdos, Chansey, Blissey, and Tyranitar after rocks; it freaking 2HKOes 248/248+ Primal Kyogre!), so I feel we'd have to nerf its stats to keep balance. If balance isn't a requirement, though, then none of these concerns really matter. So that's what I've been worried about a little with Strong Jaw.

mokonasakura May 13th, 2016 6:08 AM

Before we even go with abilities we need to go with new physical electric moves that don't also kill the user and aren't terrible.

Rock head is the only real ability that would do luxray any good right now and it doesn't fit the pokemon

gimmepie May 13th, 2016 8:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mokonasakura (Post 9240547)
Before we even go with abilities we need to go with new physical electric moves that don't also kill the user and aren't terrible.

Rock head is the only real ability that would do luxray any good right now and it doesn't fit the pokemon

Sorry but we won't be changing any movesets during Make-a-Mega. There's lots of abilities out there, best to look for one that benefits Luxray as it is now. As a side note, Luxray only has one recoil move (Wild Charge) so Roch Head probably isn't a great option.

Remember guys, ability submissions closes today. In a few hours we'll be voting!

Earth Traveler May 13th, 2016 10:36 PM

Ok, screw my ability 'Umbranate', I officially nominate an Electric equivalent of Pixilate, etc. after feedback from Gimmepie and after reading mokonasakura's post, I think Mega-Luxray needs a decent non-recoil non-broken (*shudders at Strong Jaw*) STAB.

gimmepie May 13th, 2016 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earth Traveler (Post 9241742)
Ok, screw my ability 'Umbranate', I officially nominate an Electric equivalent of Pixilate, etc. after feedback from Gimmepie and after reading mokonasakura's post, I think Mega-Luxray needs a decent non-recoil non-broken (*shudders at Strong Jaw*) STAB.

If you think of a name I'll add both.

gimmepie May 14th, 2016 5:02 AM

The new poll is up!

Christos May 14th, 2016 5:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earth Traveler (Post 9241742)
Ok, screw my ability 'Umbranate', I officially nominate an Electric equivalent of Pixilate, etc. after feedback from Gimmepie and after reading mokonasakura's post, I think Mega-Luxray needs a decent non-recoil non-broken (*shudders at Strong Jaw*) STAB.

Why do you think Strong Jaw would be broken? Both Thunder Fang and Crunch STAB moves with Strong Jaw are weaker than an Electrified/Umbranated Return. Strong Jaw Thunder Fang, especially, is much weaker than an electric-type Return.

Personally Strong Jaw or Electrilate/Umbranate could all work, but if it gets Strong Jaw it'll need a bigger attack boost.

Earth Traveler May 14th, 2016 8:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Christos (Post 9242150)
Why do you think Strong Jaw would be broken? Both Thunder Fang and Crunch STAB moves with Strong Jaw are weaker than an Electrified/Umbranated Return. Strong Jaw Thunder Fang, especially, is much weaker than an electric-type Return.

Personally Strong Jaw or Electrilate/Umbranate could all work, but if it gets Strong Jaw it'll need a bigger attack boost.

I felt the problem was less "T-Fang and Crunch are broken" than "Fire Fang and Ice Fang also inflict obscene levels of damage, like 2HKOing physically defensive Zapdos" so I felt the choice was between giving it almost broken coverage or giving it almost broken STAB.

Shadowflare May 14th, 2016 11:47 AM

I think Aftermath or Cursed Body could be good fun. They're not overpowered or cliche, but they're still decent abilities that don't see much use.

FireSnow May 15th, 2016 9:23 AM

Couldn't decide between Strong Jaw and Contrary so I voted them both. I like each of those abilities has to offer to a Pokemon like Luxray

gimmepie May 18th, 2016 8:36 AM

Strong Jaw and Motor Drive tied so I flipped a coin. The ability is Strong Jaw! Time to start submitting stats guys! I'm thinking something like

HP: 80
Atk: 140 (+20)
Def: 119 (+40)
Sp. Atk: 65 (-30)
Sp. Def: 99 (+20)
Spe: 120 (+50)

This gives M-Luxray a really even spread. It's got good Atk (especially if you combine it with biting moves with its ability) and unlike normal Luxray it's got some really solid bulk and a pretty decent Speed. It did have to take some hits to its Sp. Atk, but it doesn't need it's Sp. Atk anymore anyway.

gimmepie May 20th, 2016 6:41 AM

Tomorrow's your last day to submit stats guys! Better make sure to get them in soon!

gimmepie May 21st, 2016 5:40 AM

With no other stats suggested and it being time to start voting, it seems that my stat set gets it. Thanks for participating in this Make-a-Mega to those who did so. Keep an eye out for the Daily article and the next set of polls, both will appear soon.


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