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Xertified May 25th, 2016 8:58 AM

Do you think there will be a Third Legendary?
 
I mean c'mon!

Gamefreak always use patterns.

I would like to see a Lion-Bat for the design. (And Pokemon Eclipse?)

Hikamaru May 25th, 2016 10:05 AM

We haven't had a mascot legendary trio since 2nd Gen (who had a mascot duo and then used Suicune for Crystal) and with Game Freak apparently saying third versions are not going to be a thing anymore, I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't get a third member to go with Solgaleo and Lunaala.

And if we don't get a remake this generation, then the only thing I could see happening is a B2/W2-esque sequel pair because X/Y never got a follow-up and fans are complaining that Kalos was left unfinished due to the lack of it, and I don't want this generation to suffer the same fate.

EC May 25th, 2016 10:09 AM

I can't wait for there to be a 3rd legendary everyone says will get its own game a year or two later.

Hikamaru May 25th, 2016 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Achromatic (Post 9256971)
Probably. And people will think that it deserves a third version game, haha. Hopefully it'll be incorporated into the story better than Zygarde was. :)

I knew Zygarde had potential and seeing it get shafted so heavily made me feel worried about the fate of future "third mascots" so if we get one this generation I really hope it gets some part in the story.

blue May 25th, 2016 10:31 AM

Probably not a third game but definitely a third legendary. There's pretty much always been the three legendary concept with the two mascots fighting against eachother whilst the third is the mediator. Sun, Moon and Eclipse springs to mind for this generation and that's most likely what the theme will be imo. I think Zygarde didn't receive much attention due to the fact that there was no third game. Perhaps GF made up for that by introducing the different forms, although I still don't know what/if they're doing anything more with those...

Rivvon May 25th, 2016 1:45 PM

I hope not! Instead of making just a major legendary trio where the third member has no legend associated with it, I'd rather they just have a main legendary duo and make a new minor legendary trio, a la GSC.

smocks May 25th, 2016 3:05 PM

I think zygarde might be more involved in this game(hopefully) due to the movie its going to get, otherwise I hope the third legendary is something based on pluto lol just cause

Jeischita_Homaji May 25th, 2016 11:17 PM

A Sun legendary and a Moon legendary... That would make the third legendary twilight sparkle?

Hikamaru May 25th, 2016 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by smocks (Post 9257267)
I think zygarde might be more involved in this game(hopefully) due to the movie its going to get, otherwise I hope the third legendary is something based on pluto lol just cause

The upcoming movie is about Volcanion and Magearna, but Zygarde is getting its exposure in the main anime. I heard rumours the "third legendary" for S/M is called Marshadow and I believe it could represent an eclipse that blocks out the sun and moon.

Xertified May 26th, 2016 2:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9257695)
The upcoming movie is about Volcanion and Magearna, but Zygarde is getting its exposure in the main anime. I heard rumours the "third legendary" for S/M is called Marshadow and I believe it could represent an eclipse that blocks out the sun and moon.

Seems cool, hope it will be a Lion-Bat ;-;

WingsofBliss May 26th, 2016 8:22 AM

I'm honestly hoping they give us a duo instead of a trio this time. If they give us a trio again, I hope they do something for the 3rd Legendary in the post-game of SM instead of having to rely on a 3rd version to tell that Pokemon's story. ORAS did that with the Delta Episode, so I really hope they implement that same strategy. But even without the Zygarde issue, I really liked how they just had Ho-Oh and Lugia for GS/HGSS.

Hikamaru May 26th, 2016 9:17 AM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9258136)
I'm honestly hoping they give us a duo instead of a trio this time. If they give us a trio again, I hope they do something for the 3rd Legendary in the post-game of SM instead of having to rely on a 3rd version to tell that Pokemon's story. ORAS did that with the Delta Episode, so I really hope they implement that same strategy. But even without the Zygarde issue, I really liked how they just had Ho-Oh and Lugia for GS/HGSS.

I liked how the Johto games had a simple legendary duo, so it would be nice if we returned to that format with Solgaleo and Lunaala in this game because we haven't had something like that in 16 years now.

Kurosaki May 26th, 2016 9:58 AM

I was gonna say that with the way X&Y went, probably not, but also Sun and Moon have apparently had more effort put into them, so I'm hoping we do get a third game / Legendary for it. I know X&Y technically has Zygarde, but it doesn't feel much like a Legendary. Kiiinda hopin' Sun and Moon's possible third one will get better treatment.

Y'know, unless Sun and Moon and the two Legendaries we already know of are awesome enough on their own, and we don't need a third for it to feel complete. Johto was really popular and it only had two, so..

LilBueno May 28th, 2016 10:54 AM

I've been trying to figure out what kind of theme the third Legendary would take to turn the Sun/Moon dichotomy into a celestial trio instead. Eclipse, Comet, Space, stuff like that. Then I had a thought: if Solgaleo is Sun and Lunaala is Moon, how about Earth for the third Legendary? The planet, not the element.
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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9258203)
I liked how the Johto games had a simple legendary duo, so it would be nice if we returned to that format with Solgaleo and Lunaala in this game because we haven't had something like that in 16 years now.

Did Ho-Oh and Lugia ever have a connection in the games besides initially residing near each other in the towers? I've always liked how those two were paired off but never actually connected to each other like Kyogre/Groudon, Dialga/Palkia, Reshiram/Zekrom, and Xerneas/Yveltal.

Hikamaru May 28th, 2016 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by LilBueno (Post 9260948)
Did Ho-Oh and Lugia ever have a connection in the games besides initially residing near each other in the towers? I've always liked how those two were paired off but never actually connected to each other like Kyogre/Groudon, Dialga/Palkia, Reshiram/Zekrom, and Xerneas/Yveltal.

I think they represented the sky and the sea, as shown with Ho-Oh being captured at the top of Bell Tower and Lugia captured at the bottom cave of Whirl Islands which is situated on the water.

WingsofBliss May 28th, 2016 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LilBueno (Post 9260948)
I've been trying to figure out what kind of theme the third Legendary would take to turn the Sun/Moon dichotomy into a celestial trio instead. Eclipse, Comet, Space, stuff like that. Then I had a thought: if Solgaleo is Sun and Lunaala is Moon, how about Earth for the third Legendary? The planet, not the element.

If they have made a 3rd Legendary, I can see them going that route with it representing Poke-Earth. With that said, I think a Ground/Fairy or Ground/Psychic would be a good typing for it.

ZangooseClaw May 28th, 2016 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rivvon (Post 9257190)
Instead of making just a major legendary trio where the third member has no legend associated with it, I'd rather they just have a main legendary duo and make a new minor legendary trio, a la GSC.

I'd agree here that a new trio of minor legendaries would offer more to the storyline and players would have something more to chase after.

There will naturally be singular legendaries separate from mascots (like Magearna), so now I'm interested in the new trio of dogs or birds but thats a topic for another thread.

Keiran May 28th, 2016 1:10 PM

The whole 'duo' and 'trio' thing is tired, in my opinion. I'd rather not see one. Zygarde was pretty much Rayquaza 2.0 which was pretty boring. The lore behind Kyurem was interesting, but we never got to see the original dragon so meh. I don't really care what Gamefreak decides to do anymore, as long as they do it well.

Rivvon May 28th, 2016 3:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ZangooseClaw (Post 9261034)
I'd agree here that a new trio of minor legendaries would offer more to the storyline and players would have something more to chase after.

There will naturally be singular legendaries separate from mascots (like Magearna), so now I'm interested in the new trio of dogs or birds but thats a topic for another thread.

We're still not sure is Magearna will be a standard legendary or an event-exclusive Mythical. If gen 6 was anything to go by, the Mythicals won't have any sort of lore (at least in-game), which is why I'd like a classic (non-event) trio--they have a better chance of being given some sort of sub-plot to add to the narrative and overall content of the games.

Outside of the mascots, the only legendaries we got in XY were Zygarde and the Mythicals; I wasn't a huge fan of that so I hope it isn't repeated in SM.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 28th, 2016 3:33 PM

I saw a theory that the third legend might be a Manticore. They based it on the Hawaiian creation story where the Sun and Moon deities were aspects of a single one. So perhaps we'll see a scenerio similar to Kyurem. I can see the form taken being in SM that of a scorpion since a manticore has a lion's body, bat wings, and a scorpion's tale. That or S/M just fuse without a third one to swallow the up.

Hikamaru May 28th, 2016 8:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rivvon (Post 9261128)
We're still not sure is Magearna will be a standard legendary or an event-exclusive Mythical. If gen 6 was anything to go by, the Mythicals won't have any sort of lore (at least in-game), which is why I'd like a classic (non-event) trio--they have a better chance of being given some sort of sub-plot to add to the narrative and overall content of the games.

Outside of the mascots, the only legendaries we got in XY were Zygarde and the Mythicals; I wasn't a huge fan of that so I hope it isn't repeated in SM.

Magearna has been stated to be a mythical so knowing me it won't really have any lore ingame. I do agree with you about the XY legendaries, there was really no legendaries apart from the mascots and that had a lot of disappointment factor. For SM we need more non-mythical legendaries and I'll be fine with it.

Dracowyn May 29th, 2016 6:38 AM

There probably will be a 3rd legendary. Even if it doesn't get its own game, after all Zygarde didn't get its own game either.

But if that's the case, I do hope they'll add some postgame content about that legend, like how they did with Rayquaza in OR/AS. No idea why they didn't do that with Zygarde in X and Y cause by then they should've already known that they weren't going to make a 3rd Kalos game.

Some more legends would be nice but not necessary. As long as it's not a huge load of them like in gen 4 and 5.

Hikamaru May 29th, 2016 7:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dracowyn (Post 9261943)
Some more legends would be nice but not necessary. As long as it's not a huge load of them like in gen 4 and 5.

I recall 1st Gen only had five legendaries while 4th/5th Gen both had 14 (though Phione's legendary status is questionable) so I think a good number would be somewhere between that. 8 or 9 could be a solid number that's in the middle.

Dracowyn May 29th, 2016 7:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9261974)
I recall 1st Gen only had five legendaries while 4th/5th Gen both had 14 (though Phione's legendary status is questionable) so I think a good number would be somewhere between that. 8 or 9 could be a solid number that's in the middle.

True. Also gen 4 and 5 had a lot of unnecessary legends. Like Heatran, Cresselia, the kami trio, the musketeer trio. I mean, all of those had basically no story to them. They were just, there. And that's a bit of a shame since they could've added postgame content about them.

Hikamaru May 29th, 2016 7:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dracowyn (Post 9261981)
True. Also gen 4 and 5 had a lot of unnecessary legends. Like Heatran, Cresselia, the kami trio, the musketeer trio. I mean, all of those had basically no story to them. They were just, there. And that's a bit of a shame since they could've added postgame content about them.

I never hated these legendaries but the lack of backstory to most of them does make it understandable behind being "unnecessary" but then look at 6th Gen which only had 6 (3 of which were mythicals) and we had barely anything explored in regards to them, especially Zygarde who got shafted to the point it didn't get its own game unlike Xerneas and Yveltal.

This is why I'm hoping for around 9 legendaries (heck even 8) for 7th Gen because I do want some legendaries but I don't want too few or too much and this would be a good middle ground.


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