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Aquacorde December 3rd, 2016 10:59 PM

honestly lmao @ us all starting convos here and finishing them in discord

Seth Rollins December 3rd, 2016 11:11 PM

Yes, I do not think the UG was as good as it was back then, mainly because people have started acting so immature and as Gunner said, they are taking it too seriously. And I don't mean by taking the game seriously because there's nothing wrong with that, Heck I can even be considered as the "serious" type. I mean people taking the game too seriously they start thinking that, like, the accusation is because of something personal? This recently happened and although I admittedly have personal problems with someone I always take it out of the game.

Bac nailed it. This is a game based on distrust and full of debates you can't expect people to be the nicest boys ever. Don't take everything personally and that's rule number one. It's just a game.

The main problem here I feel is drama. Maybe we had some of that in UG 2015 but what has this become? Some sort of Battlefield? There are people in the UG that dislike each other and they take it all in the games and they'd go as far as bringing it up. Like, why? Do you want to bring over personal problems into the game? Do you want to turn the Mafia game into something else? Some people have even left because of personal attacks thrown at them. Because of drama people will start attacking the ones they dislike the most and form some sort of alliance with their friends. This doesn't unify us and this is not how the game should be played. I'm not forcing someone to like the other but don't bring in your personal stuff in the game. I'm not saying to not be dramatic in the game but don't bring drama you had outside of the games into the UG

So rule number is repeated so many times but nobody listens to it. Don't take the game personally.

Salzorrah December 3rd, 2016 11:25 PM

Yeah, can someone tl;dr what you said in Discord here for everyone to see?

Aquacorde December 4th, 2016 12:08 AM

uhhh basically we decided that we want more nilla and nilla-ish games to draw fresh blood. and a few rule changes to facilitate that? so a cycling short nilla game that doesnt count toward active game cap. faster gm cooldown. oh just heres a cp from myself

"okay also: let's do a little compilation brainstorm for proposed ideas and rule changes
we want: a short vanilla game running at all times. the vanilla games to be excluded from the game cap. as little time between SU status games as possible. a quicker GM cooldown time.
what else did we say?
oh, a host ready to go for the next nilla game before the current one ends OR a mod taking up the mantle if the proposed host cant."

"the last thing we need rn is a restriction on hosting imo
maybe at least make it so the gm has to rest for a week after their game finishes? that allows others to get in without putting a huge restriction on gms
also the mods could totally be like "yo can we put you on hold so others have a chance lol"
if it ever became a problem"

"our goal is to draw new people in and get them used to concepts before throwing them into complex games"

also hello i am going to submit my first game tmrw and its gonna be vanilla as all hecke so theres that

gimmepie December 4th, 2016 2:52 AM

Just so you know, we're working on stuff in the staff section right now and your suggestions are being taken on board. We'll get back to you ASAP and feel free to keep throwing ideas out there.

Abby December 4th, 2016 7:47 AM

Really trying to restrain myself from posting more than just 'tea'




I may not be the eldest, nor most mature player here, but I hope you consider my opinion as you would any other. I believe that part of the problem is our 'innovations' that end up with the game turning complex and people losing interest. Thus they get bored, and agressive even. This overcomplication is something that I am guilty of, and I think a couple of people were unsatisfied. Despite this, Innovation to the game can bring new life to our community, for example, Stat style games.

Another way that I think the community is getting more 'toxic' is that due to our numbers decreasing, we often end up playing against the same people. Previous interactions can just keep getting blown out of proportion, and a lot more salt is spread because of this.

EC December 4th, 2016 8:27 AM

In the three games I've been in here so far, I've only had issue with people calling me an idiot on day 1 of a grand plan that lasted until day 10, but other than that, great section.

Alex Kaz December 4th, 2016 11:53 AM

Idk, all I got from this is that Gunner is a UG genwunner xD

Aquacorde December 4th, 2016 11:56 AM

i mean true lmao but that doesnt invalidate some of her points

Alex Kaz December 4th, 2016 1:11 PM

Eh. Well, I didn't make this post to make fun of her. It's just that she is soooo against people playing the game more strategically.
I wasn't here when UG became a thing, but no matter how you see it, it was just a bunch of mafia newbies having discovered a new game and acting all excited about it. As newbies, naturally you would mess around, joke a lot and try to learn the game.
Which is exactly what happened. People learned how to actually play the game. And as they became better, the mafias became better at hiding. To counter this, town sided people needed to get their shit straight and play better. And by playing better I mean find ways to discover who is scum.
And so tactics were created, strategies were deployed and the true nature of the game started to show : it highly depended on people actively confronting one another trying to solve the game.

Sadly, this is what Gunner dislikes. She wants to play mafia so she can joke and mess around. And now she can't do that because the majority is set on playing more strategically.
Essentially, this is just a difference in how people are having fun. Some people, like Gunner, have fun by derping the hell out of them. Some others, like me, have fun by scum hunting and trying to solve the game.
That's the core problem we have right now as a community.

Getting salty and overreacting, either by pushing too much to the point of becoming rude or by being overly defensive when asked about motives and thinking it's a personal attack, is a secondary problem whether you guys like it or not. Yes, it needs to be toned down because it's becoming annoying, but even then the core problem will still be there.
Honestly, it feels like the community has been divided into two factions and has become a battlefield. That's where the salt originates from.
Unless both sides realize that everyone's reason to be here is the same, to have fun, problems are gonna keep arising. Please try to understand that not everyone's idea of having fun is the same. And try to get along with one another.

Nakuzami December 4th, 2016 1:42 PM

I'll have to disagree on that point. It's entirely possible to play the game in a lighthearted manner and still scumhunt in the same way. I didn't come to the UG as a novice, nor did all of the members that first started playing here. A number had played the game for years.

It's not that people figured out how to play the game; it's that the general trend of users changed. Many old users left and new ones came in, and others adapted to the behavior of the new ones.

I know I stopped playing in the way Gunner's referring to when the UG itself headed in that direction. And I think the forum has suffered greatly for it.

But it's not a simple fix that anyone is going to enact anytime soon.

Aquacorde December 4th, 2016 5:33 PM

i just think we need new blood at this point

EC December 4th, 2016 5:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquacorde (Post 9508111)
i just think we need new blood at this point

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FrequentInfiniteBufeo-size_restricted.gif

jdthebud December 4th, 2016 7:21 PM

It's possible that intentionally smaller games could help some, like 10-15 people. It would reduce the number of people to keep track of.

Aquacorde December 4th, 2016 7:34 PM

yeah all the ones im planning are right in that range :> i like the idea of faster-paced games

Wicked3DS December 4th, 2016 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salzorrah (Post 9506913)
Hi, A few of us have been talking, and can we please address the issue that's currently plaguing the UG right now? Most of you had noticed it, but lately a lot of salt (and not the good kind) has been thrown at each others faces. I'm gonna say this now, this ain't fun. I don't know why this is happening, and I hope I could start a discussion up to everyone in the UG. Please, for the love of god, try to be objective about this. You can state your feelings right now, but can everyone promise not to retaliate. We need to fix the discord in the UG right now, and I need everyone's help.

I'm late on this but Gunner wanted my input, so here it is.

There seems to be a lot of taking sides for some reason. I read a conversation the other day where there were literally accusations of who agrees with who the most often in games.

Everyone could stand to be kinder, myself included. I know when I first get here I got attacked personally for making an aggressive play, and not even by the person I made the play on. That kind of thing should just not happen.

Can the rudeness and can the bad attitudes. Let's just play the game.

Nakuzami December 5th, 2016 7:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiicked (Post 9508291)
Everyone could stand to be kinder, myself included. I know when I first get here I got attacked personally for making an aggressive play, and not even by the person I made the play on. That kind of thing should just not happen.

That's because your first "aggressive play" here was just incredibly rude and entirely uncalled for, and was also a personal attack on someone else, lol. And it was the first time that had happened here to such an extent. So that whole situation should not have happened.

Salzorrah December 5th, 2016 7:25 AM

Aaaanyways, I'm working on reforming the beginner's guide. It really needs an update, now that we don't have a queue anymore. I do want us to settle what things that are going to be constant from here on out, because I'm planning to put them on the guide as well.

gimmepie December 5th, 2016 8:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salzorrah (Post 9508613)
Aaaanyways, I'm working on reforming the beginner's guide. It really needs an update, now that we don't have a queue anymore. I do want us to settle what things that are going to be constant from here on out, because I'm planning to put them on the guide as well.

You shouldn't have to worry about including anything we've been discussing in your guide for the most part I'm going to re-vamp the rules thread when we make our changes since it hasn't even been alteredto reflect the removal of the queue yet.

Selena Fluorspar December 8th, 2016 2:05 PM

rolls in

'Sup?

Aquacorde December 8th, 2016 2:36 PM

sup bruh how's it goin

lloebet December 8th, 2016 3:26 PM

Dare I comment on the now dead topic of play styles?

gimmepie December 8th, 2016 3:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lloebet (Post 9512358)
Dare I comment on the now dead topic of play styles?

Dunno, do you?

lloebet December 8th, 2016 3:45 PM

Is that a challenge!?

gimmepie December 8th, 2016 3:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lloebet (Post 9512372)
Is that a challenge!?

It was a question.

lloebet December 8th, 2016 3:54 PM

Oh well in that case.

Nah.

Aquacorde December 8th, 2016 4:19 PM

ok i was totally lost during office maf but i think i'll jump in this time :D

Salzorrah December 8th, 2016 10:31 PM

i miss being in a bard game already. i love his games <3

Selena Fluorspar December 8th, 2016 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquacorde (Post 9512318)
sup bruh how's it goin

It's going a little bit

Aquacorde December 8th, 2016 11:56 PM

just truckin along eh

Selena Fluorspar December 9th, 2016 5:43 AM

Yeah, pretty much.

I don't think I have time to play but I started to miss this community. How's everyone doing?

Mr Cat Dog December 9th, 2016 6:25 AM

If corporate mafia feels too much like real life (as it does for me!) and you just want a bit of craziness in your life, once Pie Mafia ends, I'll be able to launch this bad boy:


It had taken quite the melding of pop culture universes, but Pop Culture Asylum was officially open to help rehabilitate famous figures in popular culture. Everyone from worlds as diverse as Harry Potter and That's So Raven to Batman and Austin Powers had carted their most 'problematic' characters here for rest and rehabilitation. Under the specialist supervision of fellow pop culture doctors and nurses, the idea was to bring a sense of normalcy to the craziness of their previous roles. And it was all going to plan... for a few hours.

Klippy December 9th, 2016 9:09 AM

See, that's how we will win our members back. We will just make them miss us enough!

Abby December 9th, 2016 3:56 PM

In orher news, I'm planning something.

http://i.imgur.com/Yq6bGpH.jpg

Bidoof FTW December 11th, 2016 7:18 AM

I've been scum in 5 out of the last 6 games and the one game i was inno the game got cancelled

I just wanna be a good guy ;;

Aquacorde December 11th, 2016 10:22 AM

hype for all the games that are about to come out!!!

Mr Cat Dog December 11th, 2016 10:38 AM

I've posted Pop Culture Asylum. Just waiting for it to be approved then we'll be good to go! :D

Bidoof FTW December 14th, 2016 7:37 PM

Hugh Mungus the potion dealer will never get to make his big reveal :(

feelsbadman

Charlie Brown December 14th, 2016 7:39 PM

I was under no curse to be a pirate, nor was my character based on a pirate initially. I just didn't realise Westworld was set in a Western setting till the game started and thought it would be funny. Yarr

gimmepie December 14th, 2016 7:43 PM

I was Johnny the Drunk.
whoever submitted their night action directly after me had to act like a drunk during the coming day phase.

kek

Nakuzami December 14th, 2016 7:53 PM

Well rip, another dead game

Judge Cyne. My vote counted as two and I could accuse someone of a crime each day. The accusations did nothing besides feature the accused player in the phase post somehow.

Salzorrah December 14th, 2016 7:53 PM

I WAS FUCKING JAILED BY THE JAILER, AND I WOULD HAVE SAVED JOHNNY IF THIS FUCKER DIDNT JAIL ME

WHOEVER YOU ARE, FUCK YOU. Atleast have the decency to reply to my dozen PMs requesting you to release me fucker.

Nakuzami December 14th, 2016 7:55 PM

Oh yeah, and I shot Abby just to be a dick

Thought it'd be fun if the winner of the duel died anyways kek.

Salzorrah December 14th, 2016 7:58 PM

Also, if it wasnt obvious, I was Ysabelle, and I was the doctor for the 100th time

jeez how many times do I need to be the doctor smh

Charlie Brown December 14th, 2016 8:00 PM

Oh and I was the Sheriff, could shoot everyday.
The only time I shot was at the very end when I tried to shoot Gunner but then the game died r i p

Bidoof FTW December 14th, 2016 8:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nakuzami (Post 9518769)
Oh yeah, and I shot Abby just to be a dick

Thought it'd be fun if the winner of the duel died anyways kek.

Yeah so did I... That's why she was going to kill herself with guilt....

Until you ruined my plot >:l

Salzorrah December 14th, 2016 8:37 PM

oh yeah, who the fuck was the jailer?

i definitely need to talk with you

Abby December 14th, 2016 11:40 PM

Naku, you never actually killed me, but I was too drunk to talk

Russel the Gambler

Charlie Brown December 14th, 2016 11:55 PM

was anyone actually Mafia ...

Klippy December 15th, 2016 12:05 AM

No, because there was no "mafia".

Pecilia December 15th, 2016 2:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salzorrah (Post 9518809)
oh yeah, who the **** was the jailer?

i definitely need to talk with you

I too was a victim of this.

Selena Fluorspar December 15th, 2016 3:00 AM

I have no idea what's going on here

Salzorrah December 15th, 2016 4:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goku (Post 9518914)
snip.

WHOS THE JAILER I NEED TO KNOW SO I CAN HUNT THEM DOWN AND KILL THEM FOR NOT RELEASING ME.

ngl if i wasnt jailed id be talking a lot on that thread. smh

Klippy December 15th, 2016 12:13 PM

Lycan was the jailer. No idea why he didn't respond though.

Mr Cat Dog December 15th, 2016 12:32 PM

If you guys want some more craziness in your life, there's still time to sign up... [/shameless plug]

Salzorrah December 15th, 2016 6:48 PM

LYCAN OMG WHY :(

also lmao ug is dead no games are playin rip

imo catdog, if no ones joining in, might as well start now, especially since you're the only game going on right now.

gimmepie December 15th, 2016 8:18 PM

I think CatDog has a fair few players really. I also have an idea for something so I'll try and get it posted some time in the near future.

Mr Cat Dog December 15th, 2016 11:16 PM

Oh yeah, the game's going to start no matter what. I'm just a bit too busy with work to start it immediately. Hence starting it this weekend to account for last minute sign-ups.

lloebet December 16th, 2016 8:04 AM

I might try and run one after I observe a GM some more in a game or two.

Abby December 17th, 2016 12:07 PM

I should have a game readyish in the next couple of weeks or so

Aquacorde December 18th, 2016 1:38 AM

the hardest part of GMing is definitely remembering to change tags/title

Desinishon December 18th, 2016 2:27 AM

Mine will be ready before 2017 c:

Seth Rollins December 20th, 2016 2:13 PM

Charlie Brown: The Professional Third Party Player.

Nakuzami December 20th, 2016 4:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arsenic (Post 9524041)
You guys need to make a Dictionary or something...

ooooh I've actually been slowly doing this for a few weeks and now there's actual requests for it

look at me and all my gracious foresight

Arsenic December 20th, 2016 5:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nakuzami (Post 9524375)
ooooh I've actually been slowly doing this for a few weeks and now there's actual requests for it

look at me and all my gracious foresight

Oh good! It would help out clueless people like me immensely!

Might as well be speaking German to me right now.

Aquacorde December 22nd, 2016 5:38 AM

i just got killed n0 for the first time :')

Trainer 766 December 23rd, 2016 5:24 AM

*Game starts*

Less than a few hours later

This is just in, the popular celebrity that goes by the name of "Annabanana" was found dead. Authorities say there's a stab wound on her back.

Aquacorde December 23rd, 2016 6:00 AM

rip so sad i will be at the funeral for sure

Trainer 766 December 23rd, 2016 8:50 AM

You're obviously gonna be... are you telling me you're not attending your own funeral?

Pecilia December 23rd, 2016 10:07 AM

We should have a badge for getting N0'd.

Trainer 766 December 23rd, 2016 5:53 PM

Wait a minute, Anna is the first one to join the game, yet she's the first one to get N0'd. Does that mean I'm next?

Aquacorde December 23rd, 2016 7:09 PM

mafia just thinks im too good to let live /flips hair

Trainer 766 December 23rd, 2016 10:27 PM

Nah, they just wanna put you out of your misery.

Aquacorde December 23rd, 2016 10:58 PM

oh thats probably far more true lmao

gimmepie December 24th, 2016 12:11 AM

Just so everyone knows, I have no intention of penalizing anyone for going over time between now and the end of the 26th (in GMT-4). I haven't talked about this with Lycan but I'm pretty sure he'd agree. So don't panic about making sure games are updated over Christmas.

Ullion December 24th, 2016 4:44 PM

Merry Christmas everyone! :)

gimmepie December 24th, 2016 5:43 PM

The perfect holiday for the UG! Celebrating the birth of a man who was betrayed by a friend and put to a brutal death. Okay so maybe Easter is more appropriate still but you get the idea. Merry Christmas murderers!

Pecilia December 24th, 2016 8:10 PM

Unwrapped my gift and it was salt. Merry Saltmas.

Lycanthropy December 25th, 2016 11:59 AM

Let's all celebrate the day of the role that's both cop and gun/blacksmith at once. Merry Christmas, everyone!

Ullion December 25th, 2016 4:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lycanthropy (Post 9528742)
Let's all celebrate the day of the role that's both cop and gun/blacksmith at once. Merry Christmas, everyone!

Sounds OP. Please nerf.

Abby December 25th, 2016 4:04 PM

Christmas? More like KMSmas

Pecilia December 25th, 2016 5:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ullion (Post 9528869)
Sounds OP. Please nerf.

His investigations are nothing but ambiguity and he can only craft bb guns.

Trainer 766 December 26th, 2016 4:50 AM

Holy heck I hope no one kills me because I voted for them.

Seth Rollins December 26th, 2016 7:55 AM

I love this title

Go Jesus

Trainer 766 December 28th, 2016 5:27 AM

I'm leavin'... I'm gone.

Trainer 766 January 6th, 2017 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bardothren (Post 9540382)
So... we're renting a condo with our parent forum? Awkward. Not as awkward as going back to the basement, mind you, but awkward.

Living with them during childhood for years and now you're considering living with them as awkward?

Purist of Black Water January 6th, 2017 11:45 PM

Been quite a while, since I set foot back here...

Hi everyone!

gimmepie January 7th, 2017 1:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Of Pen and Paper (Post 9540789)
Been quite a while, since I set foot back here...

Hi everyone!

Welcome back!

Purist of Black Water January 7th, 2017 11:10 PM

Thanks guys! I was just modifying my profile page, just a while ago.
Then I was forced to restart my machine, since Itunes was not responding to my inquiries. :(

Trainer 766 January 9th, 2017 6:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bardothren (Post 9543325)
There, I submitted it. Happy?

No.

Abby January 10th, 2017 1:36 AM

oooooh

Selena Fluorspar January 10th, 2017 3:28 AM

Looking at Zap's usertitle and location, I think it might be more important to give him help

Trainer 766 January 10th, 2017 6:25 AM

You guys better be careful. I will eat you alive even if I have no night actions.

Ullion January 10th, 2017 1:51 PM

Is that the mafia version of struggle?

gimmepie January 10th, 2017 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ullion (Post 9544349)
Is that the mafia version of struggle?

With this lot, probably more like Splash.

Trainer 766 January 11th, 2017 4:15 AM

You need to Splash to put out that fire.

mew_nani January 12th, 2017 9:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zapmolticuno (Post 9544856)
You need to Splash to put out that fire.

What the heck is this even supposed to mean? ~_~ also hi there

Anywho I was wanting to ask something from you guys, and since the chat I hear is mostly dead I figured I'd take it here. I left you guys because I didn't wanna bother you with my own personal problems, and while I didn't end up leaving like I anticipated I did take steps to resolve those issues, and while it's too early to tell right now I don't think they'll be a problem anymore. So with that said... would it be alright if I came back?

Abby January 12th, 2017 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mew_nani (Post 9545988)
What the heck is this even supposed to mean? ~_~ also hi there

Anywho I was wanting to ask something from you guys, and since the chat I hear is mostly dead I figured I'd take it here. I left you guys because I didn't wanna bother you with my own personal problems, and while I didn't end up leaving like I anticipated I did take steps to resolve those issues, and while it's too early to tell right now I don't think they'll be a problem anymore. So with that said... would it be alright if I came back?

We'd be more than happy

gimmepie January 13th, 2017 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mew_nani (Post 9545988)
What the heck is this even supposed to mean? ~_~ also hi there

Anywho I was wanting to ask something from you guys, and since the chat I hear is mostly dead I figured I'd take it here. I left you guys because I didn't wanna bother you with my own personal problems, and while I didn't end up leaving like I anticipated I did take steps to resolve those issues, and while it's too early to tell right now I don't think they'll be a problem anymore. So with that said... would it be alright if I came back?

There's a link to the Discord in our splash. Have at it.
Just don't forget to join games :P

Speaking of games! People we need more games and I can't make one for a week. MAKE GAMES PEOPLE!!

Selena Fluorspar January 13th, 2017 12:41 AM

I'll see what I can do


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