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Lunar June 6th, 2016 11:03 AM

Third Version/Sequels?
 
It's really early to even be considering this but after what Generation 6 did (not having a third version or a sequel to XY and instead going straight to ORAS) it got me thinking. What do you guys think will happen after SM? Will Game Freak decide to round things off with a third version or introduce something new with sequels? Or maybe break another tradition and revisit Kalos?

Personally, I think we'll see sequels to Sun and Moon, the Alola region offers a lot of potential and Game Freak could simply add new islands whilst altering the old ones. Perhaps one of the volcanoes erupted and now an entire island is destroyed, I think there would be a place for sequels to SM and would like to see how the region and story is changed.

Whatever your ideas are I'd love to hear them :)

blue June 6th, 2016 11:57 AM

It is hard to speculate what will follow from these games due to the fact that we still know so little and there has been no real pattern for game releases for the past two generations. If I had to guess though then I'd say a prequel. The sucess of BW2 would indicate that it would be the best move to follow up from Sun & Moon, but because a sequel has already been done then a prequel would be the most viable option imo. Last generation we got remakes in place of a sequel/third game and as I highly doubt we'll get another set of remakes for the 3DS, a prequel is the most likely follow-up. I'm positive there will be some sort of mainseries game after Sun & Moon, I mean they're not exactly just going to have two games for generation VII and then leave another two years empty without any further releases.

Xertified June 6th, 2016 11:59 AM

As I said in my own thread,

a third game will be good, maybe Pokemon Eclipse. And a third legendary, maybe a Bat-Lion Animal.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 6th, 2016 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by colours (Post 9274535)
This is actually interesting and I haven't considered prequels as a possibility...it'd certainly be a super interesting route to go; playing the original game and then its prequel afterwards. It can definitely explain some things about how Team Evil in S&M came to be; it can also go into a bit more lore about Solgaleo and Lunaala seeing as you would be playing a character in an earlier time period of Alola.

I know for sure than when we start seeing NPCs referring to a past trainer that might have beaten them, or start referring to some sort of nameless mysterious really powerful trainer before, that may be a huge hint. :x

XY had moments like that, as such I expected Z to be a prequel if not a classic third. Hmm, maybe SM are XY prequels. The reverse of GS.

Anyways I'm expecting prequels for SM if they aren't already prequels to XY that is. Perhaps Solgaleo and Lunaala were one Pokémon that got split into two halves at the end of a prequel story. To make it different from the Original Dragon they could make the legend be split in two, instead of three. It could get Solgaleo's body and Lunaala's color and wings.


Or maybe Solgaleo and Lunaala have counterparts based on the Black Sun (alchemy symbol) and New Moon.

smocks June 6th, 2016 1:20 PM

I reallyreallyreallyreallyreally want a Sinnoh remake but the chances for a Sinnoh Remake is quite slim due to the gap between HGSS and ORAS was 5 years. But at the same time, having a third game for SM seems really cool so far from it's graphics and intriguing plot.
SO, I would absolutely LOVE if they do something like in HGSS, where you can explore Kanto post game, except in SM's sequel, you can explore Sinnoh post game. That'll just make the Sinnoh remake's and SM's sequel's demands all-in-one.
I feel like SM and Sinnoh would be a good pair together because of their lore/mythology. (The Sun & Moon are in Space right? Space->Palkia 4TH GEN CONFIRMED XD)

Lunar June 6th, 2016 1:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue (Post 9274532)
If I had to guess though then I'd say a prequel.

That would be really interesting, perhaps we'd get to see the origins of the evil team and more of the region being uninhabited, due to the fact that it would be set in the past and the island setting.

Lunar June 6th, 2016 1:37 PM

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Originally Posted by smocks (Post 9274603)
SO, I would absolutely LOVE if they do something like in HGSS, where you can explore Kanto post game, except in SM's sequel, you can explore Sinnoh post game. That'll just make the Sinnoh remake's and SM's sequel's demands all-in-one.

Considering Sinnoh is an island of its own, (according to Serebii anyway) in theory the islands that make up Alola could be placed right next to it, allowing for a simple boatride to somewhere like Canalave city. Although it seems possible, it would be unlikely as we've just revisited Hoenn in the last games and I can't see Game Freak throwing Sinnoh into Sun and Moon which is a completely new entry to the series.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 6th, 2016 2:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ScoSap (Post 9274618)
Considering Sinnoh is an island of its own, (according to Serebii anyway) in theory the islands that make up Alola could be placed right next to it, allowing for a simple boatride to somewhere like Canalave city. Although it seems possible, it would be unlikely as we've just revisited Hoenn in the last games and I can't see Game Freak throwing Sinnoh into Sun and Moon which is a completely new entry to the series.

Yeah, Sinnoh takes up most of the island based on Hokkaido (Japan). Alola will be the third full region based on an island or more. Like a third of Unova is long island, while Kanto and Johto are both based on Honshu island ('mainland' Japan). As such Kalos is the most continental region thus far. That explains it's huge size.

smocks June 6th, 2016 2:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ScoSap (Post 9274618)
Considering Sinnoh is an island of its own, (according to Serebii anyway) in theory the islands that make up Alola could be placed right next to it, allowing for a simple boatride to somewhere like Canalave city. Although it seems possible, it would be unlikely as we've just revisited Hoenn in the last games and I can't see Game Freak throwing Sinnoh into Sun and Moon which is a completely new entry to the series.

yeah true, but I can cream right? xD

Lunar June 6th, 2016 2:10 PM

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Originally Posted by smocks (Post 9274645)
yeah true, but I can cream right? xD

Of course :) We'l get our Sinnoh remakes soon enough :)

Desert Stream~ June 6th, 2016 2:19 PM

Sinnoh remakes could be cool, as long as they aren't too easy. I'm not sure about a prequel... :/

Hikamaru June 6th, 2016 2:57 PM

I'm mostly with Blue here, since it appears third versions are dead I'm likely betting on a sequel pair like B2/W2, or as he also said, a prequel could make for an interesting twist. But then, Game Freak always loves to catch us off-guard so it's hard to predict.

PageEmp June 6th, 2016 7:56 PM

I'm actually hoping SM gets sequels as opposed to a 3rd version, and that is because of this:
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=369997

BettyNewbie June 7th, 2016 6:49 AM

XY needs to have sequels before we can even begin to discuss SM sequels. :(

Sabrewulf238 June 7th, 2016 9:04 AM

It's hard to say anything with confidence after the 6th generation threw the idea of a third version or sequels out the window.

We could see them but we could just easily spend our time waiting on something that'll never come.

Although I want to say that if we're not getting Sinnoh remakes they'll probably want to release something else during this gen...

LilBueno June 7th, 2016 1:37 PM

I think a new visit to Sinnoh would be better. Instead of a simple remake (since some people are so sure that we won't get any more remakes) and a simple third version (since other people are so sure we won't get normal third versions ever again), a Gen 7 story set in Sinnoh would be cool. It'd be an original story that would connect to Alola somehow and maybe serve as a semi-sequel to to Gen IV, but it wouldn't be just a rehash of the Team Galactic story.

LilBueno June 7th, 2016 5:12 PM

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Originally Posted by colours (Post 9276146)
So what you're saying is moreso a Gen VII version of Sinnoh? That'd definitely be an interesting turn of events; I would've liked to see what happened to Cyrus and see if he restructured Team Galactic or if they disbanded and another evil team took their place.

Yeah, something like that. Or more accurately to what I originally had in mind: a Generation VII sequel to Sun/Moon (so the story is a direct result of what happens in Sun/Moon) but with the setting of Sinnoh. However, a Diamond/Pearl/Platinum direct sequel that just happens to be Gen VII would also work! I don't think the only way to revisit a past region is by a remake. It would show a nice connection between games, regions, and generations. It wouldn't be a traditional sequel or third version, but we'd get both another version to the generation as well as revisiting a region that plenty of people want to go back to and a new story that's not a rehash.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 7th, 2016 5:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LilBueno (Post 9276323)
Yeah, something like that. Or more accurately to what I originally had in mind: a Generation VII sequel to Sun/Moon (so the story is a direct result of what happens in Sun/Moon) but with the setting of Sinnoh. However, a Diamond/Pearl/Platinum direct sequel that just happens to be Gen VII would also work! I don't think the only way to revisit a past region is by a remake. It would show a nice connection between games, regions, and generations. It wouldn't be a traditional sequel or third version, but we'd get both another version to the generation as well as revisiting a region that plenty of people want to go back to and a new story that's not a rehash.

If we get a new story in Sinnoh I'll like to see Cyrus return to try to carry out his threat given to the player before going off to who knows where in the Distortion world. Or maybe Cyrus would instead return for SM with more planet named Admins xD.

Sunshine Moonlight June 7th, 2016 9:15 PM

I think its way too early to speculate, whether there'd be a Third Version for Sun & Moon, but I'd love to see sequels to the Gen IV Games & there most probably will be.

Lunar June 8th, 2016 8:44 AM

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Originally Posted by colours (Post 9276738)
If Cyrus were to return in any fashion, I'd rather he form a new evil team instead of bringing back Galactic, or he can just make a spontaneous appearance himself just to give the player a crapton of trouble until he's dealt with, really.

This new journey in Sinnoh would be really cool and an interesting twist on remakes. Perhaps Cyrus could return with his own Giratina with an aim of controlling Arceus, that would be intense.

Drake22ice June 9th, 2016 4:43 PM

I see this gen either tying in the others (like Sinnoh) because of the anniversary or having remakes shortly after to help bring some stories together. There needs to be a new edge in story.. not just a new region with no connection, until after you beat the champion, to other regions. I mean the God pokemon is only big news in Sinnoh? come on. I see things getting interesting

Akriloth92 June 11th, 2016 5:19 PM

I'm actually wondering at this point if it will even get a sequel/third version. It seems we aren't getting that with X and Y and third versions have never sold as well as the original, so maybe GF and Nintendo have agreed to scrap that idea altogether. Honestly that saddens me a little bit because the third version was always something I looked forward to.

Hikamaru June 11th, 2016 5:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Akriloth92 (Post 9281991)
I'm actually wondering at this point if it will even get a sequel/third version. It seems we aren't getting that with X and Y and third versions have never sold as well as the original, so maybe GF and Nintendo have agreed to scrap that idea altogether. Honestly that saddens me a little bit because the third version was always something I looked forward to.

I agree, most people find the third versions pointless sales-wise and that's likely why Game Freak scrapped the idea, as well as also wanting to surprise fans. The problem is, Sun & Moon will need to be followed by a remake (likely D/P) or a B2/W2-esque sequel pair if third versions won't be a thing anymore. It was due to the lack of an additional game in Kalos that I felt 6th Gen was too short and I don't want 7th Gen to end up being shorter.

Akriloth92 June 11th, 2016 5:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9282000)
I agree, most people find the third versions pointless sales-wise and that's likely why Game Freak scrapped the idea, as well as also wanting to surprise fans. The problem is, Sun & Moon will need to be followed by a remake (likely D/P) or a B2/W2-esque sequel pair if third versions won't be a thing anymore. It was due to the lack of an additional game in Kalos that I felt 6th Gen was too short and I don't want 7th Gen to end up being shorter.

Fair point. I wonder how likely a DPPt remake is at this point though. They seem pretty modern compared to the first three generations.

Hikamaru June 11th, 2016 5:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Akriloth92 (Post 9282002)
Fair point. I wonder how likely a DPPt remake is at this point though. They seem pretty modern compared to the first three generations.

The thing is, I find a D/P remakes a 50-50 chance of happening. We need a pair of games to follow up Sun & Moon so that this generation isn't too short, because look at how 5th and 6th Gen only had two pairs of games released with no third versions, making them significantly shorter than the other generations. I have also been doubting the remakes due to the fact D/P/Pt can already be played on a 3DS.


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