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Z25 June 10th, 2016 7:42 PM

Rowlet, Litten, Popplio and Iwanko all hide a secret! But what is it?
 
According to Corocoro Rowlet, Litten, Popplio and Iwanko all hide a secret. What could this be? A new mechanic like synchro tied to them? A special feature? Or as some speculate is Iwanko a fourth starter?

What do you think their secret could be?

deathpool June 10th, 2016 7:48 PM

it would be insane if there was a fourth starter. like, everything we've known about pokemon for the past 20 years would change.
doubt it lmao, i'm not sure what the secret is. too vague to actually speculate anything.

Drake22ice June 10th, 2016 7:57 PM

Maybe they have two shinies versions...

Maybe they have the connection mega mechanic in their line since Ash-greninja.... and the fact they are all sort of domesticated pet types (bird, cat dogs)

maybe in their leaked images, they are hiding something behind them

Iceshadow3317 June 10th, 2016 8:04 PM

I am doubting it is a fourth starter, especially when it says all 3 of them are hiding something. It could be a special Mega Evo like form or it could just be as simple as them being able to walk behind you.

Winter June 10th, 2016 8:06 PM

The secret to being cute?

OT: Probably something to do with evolution.

Ho-Oh June 10th, 2016 8:06 PM

I really hope it's a fourth starter. I mean Pikachu is technically a fourth starter when you think about it. If the dog is the fourth starter sorry other three, you ain't gonna be mine.

smocks June 10th, 2016 8:10 PM

I think maybe having two abilities at once ? I don't want to put out the idea of Pokémon Fusion out there again, but it could be that but I highly doubt it :P
Maybe it has to do with something with Alchemy due to the starters and Legendaries are based off of Alchemy, so maybe they can change their "element" or type, because in Alchemy, you're trying to change the element or substance you currently have. Maybe with an item or an ability they are a different type (maybe have a different form ? ) or are not weak to the types they usually are weak to.
Because from the gameplay we've gotten so far, you get (what seems) the "mega bracelet" early on in the game right away after you get your starters (you seem to get it after your first battle with your rival) so the bracelet can contribute to Alola's Pokémon. :3

Z25 June 10th, 2016 8:15 PM

I think sychro or alchemy could actually be reasonable answers.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 10th, 2016 8:16 PM

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Originally Posted by smocks (Post 9280693)
I think maybe having two abilities at once ? I don't want to put out the idea of Pokémon Fusion out there again, but it could be that but I highly doubt it :P
Maybe it has to do with something with Alchemy due to the starters and Legendaries are based off of Alchemy, so maybe they can change their "element" or type, because in Alchemy, you're trying to change the element or substance you currently have. Maybe with an item or an ability they are a different type (maybe have a different form ? ) or are not weak to the types they usually are weak to.
Because from the gameplay we've gotten so far, you get (what seems) the "mega bracelet" early on in the game right away after you get your starters (you seem to get it after your first battle with your rival) so the bracelet can contribute to Alola's Pokémon. :3

I think that it's related to that bracelet. If you look at Iwanko you see indents on it's fur that look like crystals. They remind me of the bracelet we've seen the Mc's have in the artwork. I think it'll be the rumored Synchro evolution. If so, then I'm glad it's not going to only be the starters like some think (cough Tyranitartube cough) or thought it would be.

Benermerut June 10th, 2016 9:09 PM

From another thread:
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Originally Posted by Benermerut (Post 9280737)
Well, between the four of them, the classical elements are covered.
Rowlet as Air (Flying)
Litten as Fire
Popplio as Water
and Iwanko as Earth (Rock)
plus Nekkoala as Heart

I don't remember, are the classical elements a thing for alchemy, or largely unrelated?

But I changed my mind and the player character should be Heart.
And together we summon Captain Planet some kinda Legendary!

Gold and Red June 10th, 2016 9:30 PM

I think it might be alchemic themed. Iwanko has the symbol of lead on its collar

illumine June 10th, 2016 9:47 PM

Perhaps they secrete dangerous or disturbing substances. How these are finally manifested depends on which Pokémon it is.

I suppose all of their abilities could be something akin to Greninja's, or general variations on this. Unlikely, though, but we'll see what kind of surprise they have planned, and hopefully it doesn't change the series too significantly by this point.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 10th, 2016 9:57 PM

According to wikipedia " The elemental system used in Medieval alchemy was developed primarily by the Persian alchemist Jābir ibn Hayyān.[24] His system consisted of the four classical elements of air, earth, fire, and water, in addition to two philosophical elements: sulphur, characterizing the principle of combustibility, "the stone which burns"; and mercury, characterizing the principle of metallic properties. " So yes, the four elements are a part of Alchemy.
It's important to remember that the term Azoth is also an alchemical term. So it's possible a link to Magma and/or Aqua exists.

Gold and Red June 10th, 2016 10:00 PM

I cant see Iwanko as a fourth starter. It was shown belonging to a NPC which implies it is just an Pokémon we can catch early in the game

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 10th, 2016 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gold and Red (Post 9280776)
I cant see Iwanko as a fourth starter. It was shown belonging to a NPC which implies it is just an Pokémon we cant catch early in the game

I think that it'll be like Togepi in GSCHgSs. I can see us getting an egg of it early on, possibly tied to a mission.

Hikamaru June 10th, 2016 10:12 PM

As pointed out, the starters and Iwanko seem to represent the classic elements - Air (Rowlet), Fire (Litten), Water (Popplio) and Earth (Iwanko). Also, it was mentioned that all four are based on an alchemic symbol - Salt, Sulfur, Mercury and Lead respectively, and the indents in Iwanko's collar fur are similar to the crystals present in the protagonists' bracelets and the Japanese logos which is hinted to be the heavily theorized Synchro Evolution.

PkmnTrainerElio June 11th, 2016 1:29 AM

Why do people think the trainer can fuse with Pokémon? The Anime isn't even canon to the games, there have been things that have appeared in the Anime that haven't appeared in the games before.

Anyway, I think Iwanka could be a secret starter.

blue June 11th, 2016 4:18 AM

I can totally understand the three starters being connected, but a fourth new Pokemon that seems unrelated is interesting. I'm thinking it has something to do with alchemy to start with but also how Iwanko could be a fourth starter? Idk if that's a little too out there but the fact that this Pokemon connects with three elemental starters indicates it must have similar characteristics and stats or have some sort of importance in the game just as those three do.

Hikamaru June 11th, 2016 4:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob (Post 9280912)
Why do people think the trainer can fuse with Pokémon? The Anime isn't even canon to the games, there have been things that have appeared in the Anime that haven't appeared in the games before.

Anyway, I think Iwanka could be a secret starter.

Secret fourth starter? I can't see that happening since the starter selection only showed Rowlet, Litten and Popplio. My likely guess is that Iwanko will be an early-route encounter and you know, we've never had a Rock-type available in the really early routes before. I mean, Unova had an early Rock-type encounter with Roggenrola but that was after you defeated the first Gym.

Mega-Charmander June 11th, 2016 5:31 AM

they all have a mega...

Hikamaru June 11th, 2016 5:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mega-Charmander (Post 9281180)
they all have a mega...

Since the protagonists' bracelets have those crystals from the Japanese logos instead of the usual Key Stone that's used for Mega Evolution, I am starting to feel doubtful if Megas have been carried over to 7th Gen or not.

Hikamaru June 11th, 2016 6:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elektra Heart (Post 9281228)
I can't imagine they would abandon a mechanic that improved the metagame, made old Pokemon viable, and was generally well-received. There are too many Pokemon that sill need megas.

There's been speculation going around on if Mega Evolution will return, and if it does it could be an additional purpose for the crystals on the bracelets to use, alongside the rumoured Synchro Evolution (which is what people have been referring to the Ash Greninja form in the anime as).

Mega-Charmander June 11th, 2016 7:25 AM

Being the forth starter doesnt make them all share secret right? Sort that out.
Maybe they all have an alternative(secret) form, i think thats very probable to the description.

Z25 June 11th, 2016 9:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob (Post 9280912)
Why do people think the trainer can fuse with Pokémon? The Anime isn't even canon to the games, there have been things that have appeared in the Anime that haven't appeared in the games before.

Anyway, I think Iwanka could be a secret starter.

Because they have been slowly pushing the anime to coincide with the games. Steven mentions what seems like Alain in ORAS, the anime pushed the zygarde forms, and most though

"Oh they're anime exclusive" when that's not( and should have been obvious) the case. Gamefreak is trying to make the anime a pillar and build up for the games. I'm guessing we'll be getting syncro revealed at E3 alongside Ash greninja who will be a day one event, but synchro will work to mirro our characters. I'd also guess that synchro will work like zygarde perfection and be based on how low the HP is. The anime never does big thinks that carry on for episodes like these, unless they aren't anime exclusive. Plus both of those things already appeared in the tcg and shuffle.

And the alchemy element theory makes a lot of sense. But why have iwana be a representation of alchemy like the starters but not a starter? It's going to be interesting to see what they end up being.

Keiran June 11th, 2016 12:53 PM

I think it may be 'Synchro Formes' or whatever. You have the starters and a dog. Dogs are "man's best friend" so it'd make sense for a dog to be compatible with trainers for sychro evolution.


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