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classiccartoonsftw June 11th, 2016 12:49 AM

Remove a Sinnoh Pokemon from existence
 
Inspired by the "Let's Rewrite History" thread in the Fifth Generation section, what if you could remove one Sinnoh Pokemon from existence?

Myself, I'd remove either Chingling, since it's the most unnecessary baby Pokemon ever made, or Arceus since I find its design and concept very ridiculous.

Bigdog June 11th, 2016 1:02 AM

Arceus. Because having an event programmed in the game that no one can access without getting something only a few people are able to get is just completely crap.

The same goes for Shaymin as well. Any sort of event like this where the developers screw with the players for literally no reason at all. I just don't like how I could transfer my Arceus to X/Y because it was downright hilarious how I pwned level 15 Pokemon. On that day in the world, countless Pokemon died off camera after being smitten by their creator.

classiccartoonsftw June 11th, 2016 3:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigdog (Post 9280900)
Arceus. Because having an event programmed in the game that no one can access without getting something only a few people are able to get is just completely crap.

The same goes for Shaymin as well. Any sort of event like this where the developers screw with the players for literally no reason at all. I just don't like how I could transfer my Arceus to X/Y because it was downright hilarious how I pwned level 15 Pokemon. On that day in the world, countless Pokemon died off camera after being smitten by their creator.

If Arceus and Shaymin have that problem in common, how about Darkrai?

Hikamaru June 11th, 2016 3:49 AM

If it hadn't have been for James in the anime I would have forgotten Carnivine completely. It's likely for the fact it's forgettable that I'd remove it.

Khoshi June 11th, 2016 6:38 AM

Bye, Pachirisu. Only Se Jun Park will miss you. For the rest of us, you're uninspired and useless apart from your cute appearance and role as one of Dawn's Pokemon in the anime. Wouldn't mind you being out permanently.

TheLegendaryGuy June 11th, 2016 7:23 AM

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Originally Posted by classiccartoonsftw (Post 9280893)
Inspired by the "Let's Rewrite History" thread in the Fifth Generation section, what if you could remove one Sinnoh Pokemon from existence?

Myself, I'd remove either Chingling, since it's the most unnecessary baby Pokemon ever made, or Arceus since I find its design and concept very ridiculous.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigdog (Post 9280900)
Arceus. Because having an event programmed in the game that no one can access without getting something only a few people are able to get is just completely crap.
.

Guys.. Respect the GOD. Well, what about Skuntank? I personally hate it.

Flowerchild June 11th, 2016 8:03 AM

Purugly. Besides being a total pain to fight when one of the Galactic Admins (Mars, I think?) uses it, it's totally hideous and doesn't interest me at all. It can go.

Skuntank is also pretty bad.

blue June 11th, 2016 10:19 AM

Sinnoh did introduce some of the best Pokemon to date imo, though there are one or two that could be removed. Ambipom is probably the one I'd remove considering I'm not really a fan of it at all. I was never initially a fan of the Aipom line to begin with and Ambipom hasn't really changed that.

Lucario June 12th, 2016 12:07 AM

Shaymin, for the same reason as arceus above, and also the fact it sucks at battling.

RickGrimes June 14th, 2016 12:25 PM

Combee. Mainly because the male ones are virtually useless.

Pokeman220 June 14th, 2016 9:11 PM

Carnivine. Nobody ever remembers him; If it weren't for his numerous appearances in the anime, he'd be a lost relic. Except minus the relic, because he sucks.

smocks June 15th, 2016 12:02 AM

I love all Sinnoh's Pokemon with all my heart so this is difficult ;-;
But if i had to choose, it'll be the male combee. They don't do anything but just troll you and make the female combed harder to get :p

Malamarvellous June 15th, 2016 4:07 PM

I would probably remove Probopass, I've always disliked that Pokemon.
Either that, or Phione. I never really understood the point of Phione

TwilightBlade July 2nd, 2016 4:22 AM

Wow I have too many to choose from. Ambipom, Tangrowth, Budew, Phione, Regigigas... They're unappealing additions to prior gen Pokemon that had creativity. Budew/Phione are useless babies because their 'second forms' are already quite small to hatch in an egg.

Lapis July 2nd, 2016 8:56 AM

Probably Probopass because I do not like how it looks at all.

I'm such a horrible person choosing to get rid of a Pokemon because of its looks. ;-;

KorpiklaaniVodka July 2nd, 2016 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TwilightBlade (Post 9305473)
Wow I have too many to choose from. Ambipom, Tangrowth, Budew, Phione, Regigigas... They're unappealing additions to prior gen Pokemon that had creativity. Budew/Phione are useless babies because their 'second forms' are already quite small to hatch in an egg.

You just made my Tangrowth cry.

I'd personally get rid of Arceus or Phione.

kingdenas July 2nd, 2016 11:42 AM

4th gen was my favourite gen. I loved almost all of the Pokémon introduced, but if I could get rid of one, it would be carnivine. I also don't like chatot, male combee , burmy and wormadam, but not as much as carnivine ...

Midi July 2nd, 2016 11:56 AM

If I were to get rid of one, it would be the male Combee, because like other people said, it's just worthless to keep because it doesn't evolve like the females. Phione also counts, since it can't evolve into Manaphy and just feels worthless to have outside of Dex entries.

Lunar July 2nd, 2016 3:55 PM

I'd have to get rid of Kricketune, design-wise I hate it and it hardly learns any moves in DP. Not to mention its...um...terrifying cry.

BlissyMKW July 5th, 2016 2:39 AM

Finneon and Lumineon without a doubt. They're probably the most forgettable mons ever made. Let's be honest here, who actually remembers or uses one of those generic fish mons?

But if we want to look at this in a different light and choose a mon that's actually relevant, I would have to say Probopass. I mean, it's kinda...I don't know how to describe it. It feels pretty forgettable, too. All it's pretty much good for is bulk, even with Sturdy's buff, but for the sake of argument, let's only look at this from a Gen 4 perspective, back when Sturdy was next to useless. Along with that, did Nosepass really need an evolution a generation after it's introduction? Sure, Tangela, Togetic, and Sneasel got them too, but they're all actually really good and improve those three mons (even though their weaknesses don't change until Togekiss in Gen 6).

Now, enough bashing Probopass. As other people above have mentioned, Phione and Male Combee shouldn't exist either. Combee is probably the best example. Let me go over a backstory of back in the day of Diamond and Pearl. I caught a Combee and raised it up to use it in Battle Revolution because I thought it would eventually evolve into Vespiquen. Trust me, you don't want to know how salty I was when I realized that male Combees don't evolve at all.

Mars July 5th, 2016 6:25 AM

Darkrai
Goodbye, DV Smeargle

Arjay July 5th, 2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by KoboraX (Post 9308549)
Finneon and Lumineon without a doubt. They're probably the most forgettable mons ever made. Let's be honest here, who actually remembers or uses one of those generic fish mons?

But if we want to look at this in a different light and choose a mon that's actually relevant, I would have to say Probopass. I mean, it's kinda...I don't know how to describe it. It feels pretty forgettable, too. All it's pretty much good for is bulk, even with Sturdy's buff, but for the sake of argument, let's only look at this from a Gen 4 perspective, back when Sturdy was next to useless. Along with that, did Nosepass really need an evolution a generation after it's introduction? Sure, Tangela, Togetic, and Sneasel got them too, but they're all actually really good and improve those three mons (even though their weaknesses don't change until Togekiss in Gen 6).

Now, enough bashing Probopass. As other people above have mentioned, Phione and Male Combee shouldn't exist either. Combee is probably the best example. Let me go over a backstory of back in the day of Diamond and Pearl. I caught a Combee and raised it up to use it in Battle Revolution because I thought it would eventually evolve into Vespiquen. Trust me, you don't want to know how salty I was when I realized that male Combees don't evolve at all.

Me. Like, all the time. They're my favourite fish Pokémon and my second favourite Water line after Poliwag.

As for which one I'd get rid of, it's tough because gen 4 is by far my favourite. T'would have to be Carnivine, Phione or Lucario for me.

Flower July 5th, 2016 11:51 AM

I'd probably say Male Combee, unless you mean by removing a Sinnoh Pokémon from existence you mean the entire Pokémon no matter the sex, then.. I'd probably have to get rid of Lopunny.
Buneary was super cute, but Lopunny never appealed to me.. dunno why because Lopunny's somewhat cute too. Just something about it doesn't feel right. The eyebrow-like things on Lopunny's head (what are those though? p_p) always kinda confused me, and Lopunny's pose doesn't really seem that of a fighter. Don't like much about Lopunny besides the fluff, aha. ;v;"

pkmin3033 July 5th, 2016 12:12 PM

Lucario.

Yes, let's get rid of Lucario. It has one of the most disgustingly hideous designs in Pokemon history - I'm really not keen on these anthropomorphic foxes - and the worst thing is that it's one of the most ridiculously unbalanced Pokemon ever. It's good at freakin' everything offensively speaking, AND it has a Mega Evolution which propers right into the upper tiers.

The anime would be so, SO much better off without Lucario off, too. Think of the pain we would have been saved! No awful eighth movie...or, better yet, an eighth movie without it, because the Regis are cool. No annoying Lucario-centered episodes in the TV series, meaning we would have skipped that painful Mega Lucario mini-arc XY put us through. Ash might not have lost to Cameron in the Unova League - Cameron, who had FIVE Pokemon - and might even have won the whole thing.

So yes, let's get rid of Lucario. That whole Aura thing was ridiculous as well; it's just an excuse to justify how painfully broken literally every Lucario in the anime seems to be.

kingdenas July 6th, 2016 8:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KoboraX (Post 9308549)
Finneon and Lumineon without a doubt. They're probably the most forgettable mons ever made. Let's be honest here, who actually remembers or uses one of those generic fish mons?

I really like those two Pokémon design-wise. I think they are extremely gorgeous (especially Lumineon), and I don't know .... It's my love for water-types. But I can agree with you when you say they are one of the most forgettable Pokémon out there. Most of the time I forget that they even exist! I would love Lumineon to have a Mega or something that would make it be more used.


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