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Arcanine April 25th, 2005 9:35 AM

Wireless Internet: Is it worth it?
 
In 4 or 5 months I'll be getting a laptop. I'm going to be getting internet on it too. I wanted wireless internet but Ty said it was really slow. But now that the PSP came out and that you can play online if you got a Wireless LAN I though it would be fun to play online.
So I was wondering how slow is wireless and how much does it cost (is it around Dial-Up or DSL/Cable)?

ravenstorture April 25th, 2005 9:36 AM

I depends on the cost of the ISP. I have a laptop and wireless internet and I love it! It is really fast, and I never have problems with my connection ever.
Ty has dialup, and he is on crack, so don't listen to him. XD

Pazuzu April 25th, 2005 12:03 PM

I got Wireless and normal DSL! o_O
It doesnt matter if you got wireless or not.
The router is connected to the normal telephone-cable-box thingy XD
so if you already got DSL, you could just switch the router to a wireless one.
then jack in by cable with your normal PC and wireless with your laptop.

Edit: Oh btw, you internet is as fast as ever.
Only Games can be difficult on WLAN ;)

Kyogre-chan April 25th, 2005 12:05 PM

I didn't say that... O_o; I think you misunderstood. XD

Arcanine April 25th, 2005 9:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiroMunkie
I depends on the cost of the ISP. I have a laptop and wireless internet and I love it! It is really fast, and I never have problems with my connection ever.
Ty has dialup, and he is on crack, so don't listen to him. XD

Ok so Wireless internet is fast. If so then it's most likely the cost of DSL (or around there).
Piro you really should get a PSP game that you can play online. That way you can tell me if it works or not. XD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scizz
I got Wireless and normal DSL! o_O
It doesnt matter if you got wireless or not.
The router is connected to the normal telephone-cable-box thingy XD
so if you already got DSL, you could just switch the router to a wireless one.
then jack in by cable with your normal PC and wireless with your laptop.

Edit: Oh btw, you internet is as fast as ever.
Only Games can be difficult on WLAN ;)

Well I don't got DSL. I got Dial-Up.
And I'm not using the Wireless LAN for my PSTwo, I'm using it for my PSP.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyogre-chan
I didn't say that... O_o; I think you misunderstood. XD

You did too. I'll go with Piro and say you are on crack. XD

Eon-Rider April 25th, 2005 9:12 PM

I have it and it isnt slow.

Chax April 26th, 2005 12:58 AM

as far as i'm concerened, broadband wireless isnt slow at all, and is more convienient. and it works well with PSP i've read.

Crystal Clair April 26th, 2005 10:17 PM

Believe me, wireless internet is worth it. I miss my wireless card since it wont work in my laptop anymore for some reason.
Wireless internet with a laptop means going on PokeCommunity in bed. Now I have to stretch this bulky cable across my room and stay still or it'll fall out.
If you have the opportunity, take it.

Geometric-sama April 26th, 2005 11:59 PM

Wireless Internet is convenient if you have it in your area, as it offers roaming coverage; however, if you're going to stay in one place most of the time ADSL/cable still offers much better value and speeds. Remember that wireless internet speeds will depend on where you are. I don't speak from experience, though, as the Australian networks don't have great coverage yet. ^^;

A wireless LAN is not internet. LAN = local area network, ie. you have a home network with a wireless base station somewhere. o_O That's what I'm doing when we get our new computer. *is buying a wireless router*

Brittany April 27th, 2005 7:03 PM

WLAN just means it has a wireless connection, not actual wireless internet. You hook your internet connection into the wireless router, which gives the area the wireless connection you need. When you see a game with the label WiFi Compatible (Ad-Hoc), it means the PSP sets up it's own little connection(no router needed), which gets recieved by another PSP within it's radius.

Infrastructure is the connection to the router, which in turn will give you internet on the PSP(and PSPIRC, PSPAIM, PSPMSN). Now if you notice, most multiplayer games are 'WiFi Compatible (Ad-Hoc)', not 'WiFi Compatible (Infrastructure). There's a trick around this, in which you set your router up to 'look like' another PSP[to your PSP], and then through a server of your choice(there are a few of popularity at the moment), to which your game is forwarded to somebody in who knows where! You can find the story about that at PSP-Hacks.com

Another nifty feature about WLAN on your PSP, is that a number of people are setting up urls with 'old-school' games made convieniently to fit on your PSP screen. That's not of utter importance though, just buy a router and play Untold Legends with me =P

Geometric-sama April 27th, 2005 9:47 PM

I'll play with you if you come to Australia and take me back to the US in a box so we can go to Warped, Britt.

Brittany April 28th, 2005 2:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedi_Amara
I'll play with you if you come to Australia and take me back to the US in a box so we can go to Warped, Britt.

Hmm, lemme check my back pocket to see if I have enough money...

Random Action Control:
1-Don't have enough money, sux 4 ]oo
2-OMG NUB!
3-'Did you haxxor by bank account?'
4-*books a flight immediately*
5-Try to get more money
6-Why did the chicken cross the road? C'mon, just guess!

*rolls a 5*

Band List-
Transplants
Fall Out Boy
My Chemical Romance

The Offspring[???]
Strung Out
Relient K
Dropkick Murphys
Thrice

The Starting Line
Senses Fail

MXPX
Something Corporate
Avenged Sevenfold
Matchbook Romance
Atreyu

Millencolin

Motion City Soundtrack
Mae
(gotta represent?)
Reggie & the Full Effect
Kinison
Bedouin Soundclash
Funeral For A Friend
The Bled
Saosin
Over It

ASG
Valient Thorr
Bleeding Through
Gratitude
Street Dogs
Go Betty Go
The Fight
Skindred
The Briefs
Dead 60's

33 West
Backside Slappy
Bella Morte
Sol Tribe
Westbound Train
Brain Failure
The Track Record
Adelphi
Split Fifty
The Miasmics

Emery
Boys Night Out
Hopesfall
Yesterday's Rising
Roses Are Red
Armor For Sleep
Greeley Estates
ATFEH (A Thorn for Every Heart)
Glory Of This


*wonders what's up with The Offspring being at Warped*
There's some punk, some emo, some hardcore, some screamo(emocore). Just wish Taking Back Sunday and The Used would be there, but it'll be great nevertheless.

*just realized Hawthorne Heights isn't on the list*(but is on the list for Warped at many other cities)
nooooooo!
------------------

Well that was really offtopic. So Andy, need anymore help with the whole PSP/Laptop WiFi thing?

Arcanine April 28th, 2005 3:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brittany
Well that was really offtopic. So Andy, need anymore help with the whole PSP/Laptop WiFi thing?

What? I'm more confused now then when I started this thread. XD
Ok what I got from this thread is.
Wireless internet isn't that slow.
I need broadband to play my PSP online (I read that out of the PSP book).
Jake, Brit and JA said a bunch of stuff that makes my brain melt (XD).
Crystal Clair said wireless net is worth it and I should get it.
JA would like to be shipped in a box to the US.
Piro says Ty is on crack.
And Brit asked "6-Why did the chicken cross the road? C'mon, just guess!"

I'll tell you why that chicken crossed the road.
Because that chicken got really depressed. Because he lost his job that he had for 5 years. He went bankrupted. He lost everything (his house, his car even his TV). His wife ran off with a rooster. So one day he came to a road, he saw a 16 wheeler comming down the road so he just wanted to end it all. So he stepped infront of that truck and BAM!
And that's why the
chicken crossed the road. XD

Geometric-sama April 28th, 2005 10:49 PM

No, the chicken crossed the road because he wanted to go to Warped. *drools at the tour list* I <3 Hawthorne Heights. Britt, you come to Australia, take me back to the US in a box and go to a city where they're on the bill.

Brittany April 29th, 2005 7:20 AM

Okay Andy, I'll try to make it simpler.
PSP has two modes for multiplayer gaming- Ad-Hoc and Infrastructure. You must turn on the WLAN switch to use either of them(it's on the side of your PSP).

Ad-Hoc is when your PSP makes it's own connection, and another PSP connects to it. You have to be near each other to do this, but no router is needed.

Infrastructure is when your PSP links wirelessly to your router, so you play online with others.

Despite their scary names, both modes are simple to understand.
Infrastructure sounds like the better choice, but here's the catch- most games at the moment only use Ad-Hoc(you can see it on the back of the UMD case). So what do you do if you want to play an Ad-Hoc game on the internet? Disguise your router as a PSP, that's what! If you ever want to waste your time learning that mumbo jumbo, you can go to PSP-hacks.com and learn about it.

Or if you learn better visually-

Ad-Hoc Games
PSP<------>PSP

Infrastructure Games
PSP<---Router--->Someone else's PSP in lord knows where.

Ad-Hoc Games on the Internet
PSP<----PSP(Actually a Router is disguise)--->Someone else's PSP in lord knows where...


-------------------------------------------------------------

Now about the Internet connection you need. Dialup won't support PSP well, you'll lag incredibly, and probably drop out of all games you enter. You will need DSL or Cable for this. When you have DSL or Cable, connect it to your wireless router, and that DSL or Cable connection will be available all around your house(and your neighbors houses) wirelessly.


When Cable or DSL is connected to your router, you'll be able to do this:

PSP
^
Router->Laptop
v
Desktop

Arcanine April 29th, 2005 8:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brit
(and your neighbors houses)

Trust me, it won't be able to go that far. XD

This is way more simpler *can feel melted brain come out of his ears* <_<;;. XD

Ok so what I need to play online is, DSL and a wireless router? After that I can surf the web with my laptop and play the PSP online?
Just one more thing, if I get DSL and a wireless router do I have to pay for each computer it uses (I'm going to hook up DSL to the desktop and wireless router goes with the PSP and laptop so do I have to pay for both the laptop and desktop to get on the internet)?

Brittany April 30th, 2005 5:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcanine
Trust me, it won't be able to go that far. XD

This is way more simpler *can feel melted brain come out of his ears* <_<;;. XD

Ok so what I need to play online is, DSL and a wireless router? After that I can surf the web with my laptop and play the PSP online?
Just one more thing, if I get DSL and a wireless router do I have to pay for each computer it uses (I'm going to hook up DSL to the desktop and wireless router goes with the PSP and laptop so do I have to pay for both the laptop and desktop to get on the internet)?

Yes, all you need are DSL and the wireless router. I seriously doubt that you would have to pay for each computer you use, because the point of the router is to split that single connection into many connections.

After you have your wireless router and service setup, go to-
Settings > Network Settings > Infrastructure Mode > New Connection > Press the right button > Scan(the WLAN switch must be on)

And then it will detect the service from within your house. If you encrypted your connection(that way leeching neighbors can't have their way), you will have to put in the key. Since you're not worried about leeching neighbors though, I guess it doesn't apply to you.

Geometric-sama May 1st, 2005 4:28 PM

You should ALWAYS encrypt a wireless connection, not just because of leechers but because if you don't encrypt then anyone within range with a wireless card (eg. if someone drives past in a laptop) can get the private files off your computer. I'm surprised to see you talking about not needing to encrypt!

Brittany May 5th, 2005 7:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedi_Amara
You should ALWAYS encrypt a wireless connection, not just because of leechers but because if you don't encrypt then anyone within range with a wireless card (eg. if someone drives past in a laptop) can get the private files off your computer. I'm surprised to see you talking about not needing to encrypt!

I think Andy lives in an area similar to Antartica(or the moon), nobody would be able to leech his connection, nor want to harm his computer. ;)
And if anyone actually does live near him, I doubt the would be the haxxor type. :P

Nevertheless, if he feels the need to encrypt it, the option is still out there.

Arcanine May 5th, 2005 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brittany
I think Andy lives in an area similar to Antartica(or the moon), nobody would be able to leech his connection, nor want to harm his computer. ;)
And if anyone actually does live near him, I doubt the would be the haxxor type. :P

Nevertheless, if he feels the need to encrypt it, the option is still out there.

No one is going to leech off of me. Unless wild Animals count. XD
And around here you got
signal interference from trees, mountains hills etc (my back yard is a mountain XD).

Arcanine May 5th, 2005 3:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satoshi-kun
That would mean your reception can turn subpar, Andy...

Yea it would go bad if I went down the road on my laptop. But as long as I stay on my land I'll be fine.

Geometric-sama May 11th, 2005 8:59 PM

I still think you should encrypt the signal~

Brittany May 12th, 2005 5:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetsuya-san
At least a WEP password or something. XD

Lol, that's all PSP supports.

I seriously think that Andy may have no problems with this though. Based on conversations with Andy, I don't think he's actually ever come in contact with another human being aside from his family.(seriously you both, quiet down! I'm living inside that mountain in his backyard)

Arcanine May 12th, 2005 5:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brittany
Lol, that's all PSP supports.

I seriously think that Andy may have no problems with this though. Based on conversations with Andy, I don't think he's actually ever come in contact with another human being aside from his family.(seriously you both, quiet down! I'm living inside that mountain in his backyard)

Really? Why don't you come down some time. That way I can take a picture of you and post it all over PC. XD


Ok ok guys. If it makes you happy i'll use a pass or mess up the signal or whatevery it's called. XD

Brittany May 12th, 2005 5:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcanine
Ok ok guys. If it makes you happy i'll use a pass or mess up the signal or whatevery it's called. XD

It's your choice. I guess it'll make it pretty cool to type in a password on your PSP though. I say that the more things you do to switch up the default settings on your PSP, the more hi-tech you feel! Wait a second.
...
..
*stops talking for my own sake*


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