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Outrage sweeps nation after two black men murdered by police
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Video is graphic, you have been warned. How to not get shot in the US: 1) Be White 2) Be White |
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And now we have an active shooter incident in Dallas, two snipers have shot and killed several cops during a BLM protest there. There aren't many incidents that truly make me turn off the news at night and make me just shake my head in disgust, but this was one of those. It's just sad at this point, we go from mass shooting to mass hosting and racial tensions blowing up again. At what point does the scale truly tip and things blow up to the point that we actually get change?
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This is simply unsubstantiated gut feeling with zero info outside of the official police tweets on the matter, but I can't help but feel like it was an intentional attack meant to deflect sympathy back to cops. It's all too common, unfortunately. Infiltration of black protests/rallies leading to escalation of said events and allowing the general public to return to calling them 'thugs', if not more direct words which I don't think need to be said.
But Occam's Razor would dictate that this sniper attack is a result of someone's foolish unrestrained aggression against a corrupt system, amplified by the seeming inevitability of the lack of change. Which is the likely answer in this case. |
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-video-shooting-dylan-noble-20160707-snap-story.html In other news, Peter Rosenberg saying exactly what needs to be said of the police brutality and nepotism amongst officers sweeping the nation: |
A Trump supporter also pulled a gun on BLM protesters in Portland, OR. No one died there, thankfully. He "feared for his life" apparently.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/hit-the-ground-trump-supporter-pulls-gun-on-black-lives-matter-rally-in-portland/ Quote:
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I'm as white as they come: I have never felt safe around cops. EVER. |
There is a culture of division and violence in the US right now that needs to be changed. Right now, being different to another person in any way is likely to get you shot and killed. If you're black, a white man will shoot you. If you're white, an Arab will shoot you. If you're Arab, a black man and a white woman will take turns. If you're gay, if you're a bigot, if you believe, look or live different than your neighbour or even if you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time - you're more likely to be shot than in any other Western country. I won't go as far as to say a "civilised country" anymore. There's millions upon millions of wonderful people living in the United States, and it's so wasteful that at any moment any one of them stands so much more of a chance of having a bullet put in their skull than they do here, or in New Zealand, Canada, the UK etc.
Obviously these attacks were racially motivated, whether they were consciously so or not is irrelevant. At this point though, the violence in the US is so excessive and disproportionate to the liberties and ammenities the country offers that I honestly don't think the reason matters anymore. There is something fundamentally wrong happening in the US right now where people - whether they are police officers or civilians or whatever - are finding it far too easy to turn to violence for whatever reason and where it's too easy to justify lethal force in people's minds. We can talk all we want about stamping out racism, but this is clearly a problem that runs far deeper into the US' culture than just that. It's like in general the society there doesn't value life to the same extent as the western world. Whilst attacking racism is fantastic, its never going to completely go away, so something has to be done about the pro-violent culture children are growing up in if you want attacks like this to stop. It's not just about race anymore, it's about nobody valuing each other as equals. /end rant |
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Did anybody else hear about the five dead cops in Dallas?
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All these recent situations make me sick... |
I had a feeling this was gonna happen yesterday. I called my mom and was talking to her about those two guys who got shot recently. I was telling her that I was scared for my brother because he is puerto rican but has a darker skin tone. He's always hanging out outside. I told him if he ever got stopped by a cop just to put his hands up and not even move, if the cop asks him for anything just tell them you're not gonna move and that they can take your ID or whatever out of your pocket themselves.
I also thought to myself that what happens if cops started getting attacked now in response to all this thats going on. And now it actually happened that same day. I wish officers would just use tasers like they used too. Why go straight for a gun when the taser will do just fine to take down a suspect. I used to watch Cops and other law enforcement shows all the time and first thing they would do was pull out the taser and it always worked. When did they switch that to a gun? Do they even carry tasers anymore honestly? Ugh, seeing people die unnecessarily makes me sad especially when it happens so often. |
The most disturbing thing about the Dallas cops being shot is that I just somehow couldn't bring myself to feel sorry for them. Didn't matter if they were good cops or bad cops....all I could think about was that the inevitable just happened and it was the result of too much police corruption and the "good" police barely doing a thing to stop it. Like they've kind of brought it on themselves. It scares me to have myself react in such a way.
There's a song made by a band I listen to called Machine Head. They wrote a song that alludes to the LA Riots of '92, but somehow I feel like it was a timeless song because it fits even more today than it did back then: Spoiler:
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It's really disgusting. Time and time again, things like this happen and I think to myself, when is anyone in this country going to do something about this? And time and time again, nothing is done. Nothing gets changed. Rinse and repeat.
I don't feel safe in this country. I haven't for years, for myself or others. |
Apparently the sniper was a Black Army Reserve Veteran who hated white people and is reported as wanting to kill white people, especially white officers.
I feel as if there's going to be a race war coming down soon if things keep going this way. |
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Speaking politically. I don't know if it's just me, but with the way things have been going the last year this next election scares the living shit out of me, not that the last year hasn't already. this country is officially doomed. We're at the end of our ropes it seems, there's no turning back. We cannot be saved. The human race will never see eye to eye, we will never get along with eachother. As I said in another thread, it's just going to get worse. This is nothing yet. |
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Weren't those police parading alongside too, not just around? I feel like that's as "good" as you can assume a police officer being from this small amount of information |
I am so sick of this race war that has been brewing since Trayvon Martin was killed several years back. With all this stuff that's been happening, especially with the Black Lives Matter movement, I just know the outcome won't be good. I know, it's probably considered "racist" of me by saying this stuff, but I'm not going to submit to the politically correct demands of communists and the New World Order cabal.
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At this point, since it looks like it's a virtual lock that Hillary will be our next president, I would rather live under a reincarnated FDR, Truman, or LBJ than her for a single day. Even Jimmy Carter, as bad as he was in his single term (with the overthrow of the Iranian shah and the hostage crisis), would've been better than Mrs. Clinton. If I had the money, I would have packed my bags and emigrated this country years ago. |
Amerikkka has never been safe for us black people especially black men slavery, willie lynch, and the jail system have made sure of that. What confuses me about the racism is that we never did anything to white people always stayed to ourselves and lived in peace but for some reason they bring their asses to our land kill rape and mame us then drag us across the ocean to this god forsaken land and force us to work for them doing their work then we get "freed" but still down trodden with fake rights that mean nothing cuz were still separated by color still being killed and mamed until the civil rights act was passed to basically protect us from said atrocities just to be secretly hated by the now formed KKK. All that stuff affected our development as a people so we build black wall street which was burned down by the clan then formed the Black Panter Party to rival the Klan but still slavery (house and field n!&&@s) and willie lynch made sure there was in-fighting and a separation that only we could determine between light and dark skin which is stupid af all the while still being hated by whites just for being of darker color. Just a little history lesson for those that dont understand the plight of being black in america.
BlackLivesMatter aint sh- but propaganda to make money its not a true movement for black liberation. I agree obama hasnt said sh- about the racial problems in the country but he can speak on afganistan smh if the black president puppet wont even address it then how can we even expect the country to understand it. The sniper was someone hired to die for that false flag operation just to fan the fires of hate even more. |
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Why do you say that protestors are causing riots? The discussion about the place of violence in political movements (which is a whole topic in itself) aside, if you look at the BLM info online [like here] you don't see talk of violence. You see things like "We are committed to embodying and practicing justice, liberation, and peace in our engagements with one another." So the movement is striving for peace, not violence. I mean, yes, nothing is perfect and every group large enough is going to have bad eggs, but unless one believes that the movement is intentionally sending out a peace message to attract people who want people and then somehow turning them violent one has to see that they aren't trying to use violence. |
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What are the "politically correct demands" you're talking about? Are you seriously that oblivious? What good do you see coming out of this next election? I'd really love to see your theory. My theory, is we're already fucked, period, no president can save us, it's tyranny in the end anyways, America is next in line for the fallen empire list. So.... Pick your poison. |
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Alrighty let's add my 10 cents onto this issue.
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Alright now that that is cleared up onto the consequences of these shootings. Black Lives Matter, oh my America's favorite terrorist organization. They are terrorists. Yes they're manifesto and ideals might preach peace however this is saying one thing and many supporters/members/adherents have acted quite the opposite. We saw it last year, and we're seeing it now. http://i.imgur.com/Zyu9Hbj.png Now that's terrorism right? Look it up, I'm sure google will give you that answer. Now where does this tie into Black Lives Matter you might wonder. Well what have we seen lately. We've seen an off duty officer shoot and kill a home intruder over an argument they had on facebook about Black lives Matter. We saw the systematic murder of police officers, this championed by those who believe in the Black Lives Matter movement. 21 officers were injured after protesters brought I-94 to a screeching halt for more than five hours Saturday night.. There are problems but it isn't with the police. It's with a lack of respect and a culture that jumps on the bandwagon as soon as a life that has been taken gets national attention. There are facts there are statistics. They don't help the case of Black Lives Matter. https://scontent.fbne1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13620931_1101469306600182_3622037682167744360_n.jpg?oh=790e3a8ecd4f220962ea3e3806c33032&oe=582E9AFB This breakdown, how can you account for the senseless violence that is occuring right now on behalf of the Black Community/Black Lives Matter Movement. It makes no sense why a minority statistic, alright not majority of the statistic would riot and lash out. Why do I believe they do? Because we treat the community like a spoilt child. I fail to see why anyone can support a terrorist organization like this. We must learn to respect authority. You can even argue that Blacks are killed disproportionately to their population size. But Blacks disproportionately commit more crime than any other racial group. Of course they are going to be shot more often when they commit more crime than everyone else. This is not racism, this is fact... https://scontent.fbne1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13590419_503774319808568_1901140679421745087_n.jpg?oh=2b5877217029fefe81d2d0a312dbab6e&oe=58289D3C "Oh but the statistics are racist and they're cherrypicked oh my god the racists the nazi's they're all nazi's!" Well my source is the Burea of Justice Statistics. Look them up buddy I'm sure you'll cum. Alright so the disparity in police violence is likely a problem linked to crime, not to race. Black Lives Matter are a Terrorist Organization. Just because they say they're peaceful doesn't substantiate it. Instead through actions they have proven that they are akin to a spoilt child, who will not take responsibilty for it's actions and in doing so only degrades the respect society can hold for it. Alright Russia put Black Lives Matter on their own Terror List. Everyone else should too instead of supporting a liberal agenda that automatically assumes that anyone born into poverty or a racial group entitles them to a void of moral and ethical responsibilites where consequences are non-existant. |
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So straight up let's have a look at wikipedia because that serves to give us a basic skeleton and outline. Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is defined as the use or threatened use of violence (terror) in order to achieve a political, religious, or ideological aim. It is classified as fourth-generation warfare and as a violent crime. In modern times, terrorism is considered a major threat to society and therefore illegal under anti-terrorism laws in most jurisdictions. It is also considered a war crime under the laws of war when used to target non-combatants, such as civilians, neutral military personnel, or enemy prisoners of war.[1] Alright so now you're going to call it up on it being a broad sense. Doing that is simply arbitrary. Why because it's still the definition. You do not get to exclude people from this definition just because you believe in them. Also you're going to call it up on textbook definitions. This is not a subjective issue. Emotion is not a valid platform to make any kind of argument. So I'll go above and beyond just for you. The Law. oh baby. Now as per 18 U.S. Code section 2331 - Definitions. Now part 5 of this section defines Domestic Terrorism as... Spoiler:
Now that is law. Those involved in these protests satisfy the conditions to be charged as a domestic terrorist. It's plain as day. Don't play favorites because bias just destroys all credibility. t. Barrister The western law system works with these things called Precedents and you've gotta uphold them. Okay. So when we call ISIS a terror group, because they use violence and intimidation to further their political aims we can't just go aww maybe not for black lives matter because even though they do satisfy the conditions I kinda believe in them so nah they're sweet to continue using violence. It's a double standard. Principles and integrity need to be maintained, because yes you might not like it at all! But if someone much worse was to be in power they could use your own arguments against you. Quote:
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So. You're alleging that White people and Black people commit the same about of crime but that because the police are targeting baclk people more often they catch more crimes commited by black people. Okie dokie. Time for some maths. So let's use the number 1000. Now of America, afro-americans make up 12.6 % of the population So let's just convert all the ethnic groups into a number from 1000. 724 Whites 126 Blacks 48 Asians 9 Indiginous 2 Hawaiins and 91 others So let's say Whites commit 10 crimes a year And your theory suggests that blacks perform the same so for them they commit 10 as well. 10 is about 1.3812% of the white population. 10 is about 7.9365% of the black population. So by your theory you're saying that they commit the same amount of crimes based on nothing but that they are the same. But what I've also found is that you're saying a higher percentage of the Black community is commiting crime. Which leads me to assume that you're saying blacks commit more crime than whites do regardless. If they're population size was the same blacks would be committing more crimes? Because if we follow you're theory that's what it says... (Don't worry bro, just using yourself against you ;) it's a lot of fun) Quote:
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