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JesteR July 17th, 2016 7:15 AM

It's Been Awhile
 
Hey everybody, I've been out of the competitive scene for a little bit, and I just wanted to see what everybody's thoughts were on this team I found in my Showdown teams.

Spoiler:
Sableye @ Sablenite
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 112 Def / 144 SpD
Careful Nature
- Knock Off
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Foul Play

Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
Ability: Liquid Ooze
EVs: 248 HP / 216 Def / 28 SpD / 16 Spe
Timid Nature
- Scald
- Rapid Spin
- Acid Spray
- Toxic Spikes

Chansey @ Eviolite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Bold Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Soft-Boiled
- Seismic Toss
- Heal Bell

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 224 SpD / 32 Spe
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Body Slam
- Wish
- Protect

Slowbro @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 SpD
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Slack Off
- Thunder Wave
- Psyshock

Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
- Moonblast
- Moonlight
- Calm Mind
- Stealth Rock

kingtigertank August 2nd, 2016 9:46 PM

IMO running Jirachi as a tank is OK but even if you do get the body slam paralysis your Iron Head flinching won't do much without attack investment. I would go with full attack and HP - it should still be a difficult pokemon to KO.

PlatinumDude August 2nd, 2016 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingtigertank (Post 9349843)
IMO running Jirachi as a tank is OK but even if you do get the body slam paralysis your Iron Head flinching won't do much without attack investment. I would go with full attack and HP - it should still be a difficult pokemon to KO.

Jirachi is supposed to support the team with Wish and paraflinching is just a nice bonus. The specially defensive EV spread allows Jirachi to more comfortably take resisted special hits. Damage output isn't the point of support sets.

kingtigertank August 3rd, 2016 1:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 9349908)
Jirachi is supposed to support the team with Wish and paraflinching is just a nice bonus. The specially defensive EV spread allows Jirachi to more comfortably take resisted special hits. Damage output isn't the point of support sets.

That's fine but the team is already quite lacking in offensive capability and is going to run into a lot of trouble with any opponent with Taunt.

gimmepie August 3rd, 2016 4:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingtigertank (Post 9349971)
That's fine but the team is already quite lacking in offensive capability and is going to run into a lot of trouble with any opponent with Taunt.

The team lacks offensive capability because it's a stall team. It's designed to poison or burn the opponent and then wait them out. Switching to a more offensive Jirachi variant (the only one worth a damn being Scarf Jirachi) would ruin the team's synergy and not be nearly enough to add offensive presence to the team anyway.

That being said, you're right that taunt abusers will be a problem for this team although M-Sableye does mitigate that to a degree.

Nah August 3rd, 2016 5:34 AM

Rolling with Skarmory with Spikes+Whirlwind over Jirachi may be a little better. This gives you additional hazard damage plus the ability to phaze, which is great for hazard stacking/stall teams (Skarmory also gives you a much needed ground immunity while retaining the steel typing). It's particularly good since you have Mega Sableye, who's a great spinblocker. Chansey can become your Wish passer instead.

It's also unnecessary to have SR on two pokes

gimmepie August 3rd, 2016 6:35 AM

Seconding the Skarmory recommendation, it'd greatly improve the team and can give you a potential taunter or your own as well since you already have hazard control with Tentacruel.


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