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Squirrel July 22nd, 2016 7:41 AM

Pokévision
 
For those of you who aren't aware, Pokévision is a popular website which lets you scan an area of the world (ie your local village!) and check which Pokémon are currently around there, their exact locations and accurate timers on how long they'll be there for. I won't link it as I'm not sure I'm comfortable with it being used right now, but if you want to find it you can do so easily via Google. Some people think of using this website as cheating whereas others are calling it "fair game" whilst the infamous 3-step glitch reigns supreme, and others will just use it regardless.

What do you think about this service? Do you use Pokévision yourself and what've you found whilst using it? Do you consider it cheating? Would you judge others for using it?

Benermerut July 22nd, 2016 9:24 AM

I've been to the page and snooped around my area and, honestly, it's doesn't seem overly useful to me.
Oh look, a pidgey waaaay over that way and a weedle waaaay over the other way.
I'd find more just by taking my dog on a walk.

So I looked at downtown of the neighbouring big city.
Oh, take a step and trip over five non-basic Pokémon (probably with halfway decent CP, too).

Why bother with PokéVision if Pokémon are everywhere? Why bother with it if they're few and far between? I guess it would only be useful if I was looking for something specific and wasn't gonna go out unless it was on the map.

VisualJae July 22nd, 2016 10:10 AM

It's pretty hit or miss since it depends on the stability of Niantic's servers. And even if you do spot something of interest on the map, you still have to do the rest of the work to track it down (though it does drastically cut down your navigational work).

It is very useful while the footprint bug is still unresolved. I doubt I'll use it once the bug is fixed as it's a small hassle to continuously swap between apps on the phone to double check positioning.

moon July 22nd, 2016 10:31 AM

The site was down when I checked now, ahha. But I'd like to try it out, I think. It's really annoying that there's a footsteps bug now ); Not sure this would really help much though; the same pokémon would still be shown in my vicinity despite the bug, right? So basically it's still "cheating". Or rather, using other resources hehe.

VisualJae July 22nd, 2016 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by adventure (Post 9334546)
The site was down when I checked now, ahha. But I'd like to try it out, I think. It's really annoying that there's a footsteps bug now ); Not sure this would really help much though; the same pokémon would still be shown in my vicinity despite the bug, right? So basically it's still "cheating". Or rather, using other resources hehe.

I mean, you can think of it as someone telling you where they found everything.

Social media groups exist where people within a common region just shout out what they find. For example, NYC has a Facebook group where people regularly post what they found a minute ago so those who happen to be nearby can scurry over and get their own. Or they share "nest" spots where specific Pokémon regularly show up at certain times of the day.

Or would that be cheating as well?

Esper July 22nd, 2016 10:52 AM

Maybe it's cheating, but until they fix the radar I think it's fine to use.

I tried it out and there was a Clefairy right where the map said there would be one so I tend to think that it's pretty reliable.

Hiidoran July 22nd, 2016 10:59 AM

Tried to access it, but it's down for maintenance right now. I'll try again later.

I assume it's like the other maps going around though, albeit a bit more accurate. I would probably use this, and certainly wouldn't consider it cheating, especially considering the tracking system is broken. However, my town has a FB page that's really active and has all but mapped out where you can get what, so it's more or less just that without the social aspect.

Squirrel July 22nd, 2016 11:30 AM

It does go down a lot yes haha. Personally I have been using it a bit whilst the footprints glitch is up but it's honestly pretty tough finding the actual Pokémon with it. Might just be because my village is basically a giant maze but it can be tough to even find half of the Pokémon around here once you see them on the map. I've used it to track down a couple of nearby Pokémon around my road but it just doesn't feel feasible to get anything more than a couple of roads away with it. I do consider it cheating honestly but more just "cheating for the sake of it" rather than to get super far ahead because it really isn't that effective.

KristupasZube July 25th, 2016 12:31 AM

Is PokeVision cheating?
 
PokeVision is a pokemon locator for pokemon go. Basicly it shows pokemon near you. But is it cheating? Well some people call PokeVision the 3 step fix, but in my opinion its not cheating. I think it will be cheating once the 3 step glitch is fixed.
What do you guys think? Is it cheating?

EvaLiz666 July 25th, 2016 1:21 AM

I think it depends on how purist you want to be, ultimately it's just a game and however you play if that's how you get enjoyment out of it that's how you should play. Unless it involves trolling and bullying other players that's where my tolerance
stops.

KristupasZube July 25th, 2016 1:24 AM

Well i will stop using pokevision after the steps are fixed, cause than i will feel as im cheating and that isnt fun.

CoalCraft July 25th, 2016 1:26 AM

For me it would be - like I don't want to use it because I want to find things serendipitously, but I don't hold it against anyone who does use it :)

bullcable July 25th, 2016 3:19 AM

I dont think it is cheating because of the three step glitch

Sirindu July 25th, 2016 5:08 AM

Wait, so this is something that shows in real time where Pokemon are?

Yeah, I feel like that's cheating.

I like the user-sourced sites that try to give a heads up, like, "I captured a Charizard here yesterday!" So that you can slowly assemble a better idea of where certain spawn points may be. But just seeing everything in real-time, that's... that's not cool.

Squirrel July 25th, 2016 7:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirindu (Post 9337561)
Wait, so this is something that shows in real time where Pokemon are?

Yeah, I feel like that's cheating.

I like the user-sourced sites that try to give a heads up, like, "I captured a Charizard here yesterday!" So that you can slowly assemble a better idea of where certain spawn points may be. But just seeing everything in real-time, that's... that's not cool.

Do you think it's still bad to use whilst the 3-step glitch is active? (ie, see a nearby shadow then track it on PokéVision as you can't track it based on the 'nearby' section) Or do you think that doesn't change anything?

dorafan July 25th, 2016 8:29 AM

IT IS A HACKING

Hiidoran July 25th, 2016 8:40 AM

I really don't consider it cheating at all, and when it's up, I use it.

It's not like I'm going to search some far-away area to see what's there and then be able to make it to said place within the minutes they are spawning there anyway. I only really use it around my home since the three-step glitch started happening. That way I can still track them down if they're nearby without needlessly heading off in the wrong direction many times and missing out. I don't see much of a difference, really.

Rai July 25th, 2016 8:55 AM

I really like Pokevison. It has been helpful for me.

Walking around aimlessly and trying to find the Pokemon I haven't caught yet is part of the fun, but it can be frustrating and tiring, especially since it has been extremely hot in my area for the past couple of days.

I will still go on random walking adventures, but Pokevision does help to make finding new Pokemon easier.

RaZzi123 July 25th, 2016 11:18 AM

I love the site so , saves me tons of time

Sirindu July 25th, 2016 2:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirrel (Post 9337763)
Do you think it's still bad to use whilst the 3-step glitch is active? (ie, see a nearby shadow then track it on PokéVision as you can't track it based on the 'nearby' section) Or do you think that doesn't change anything?

I get why people want a workaround for that. Any sort of distance system where you actually have to triangulate and hunt for the position is the far better option, imo. But I'm not trying to be stuck up about it or anything, so it would feel like cheating *to me*, but I wouldn't judge someone using it right now given that the footprint system is broken.

Shuhbooty July 25th, 2016 3:43 PM

I've been thinking of using it myself. I personally don't go to populated areas that have pokestops/gyms. It's always in my area (which has two gyms and two pokestops in my community. One is a church, the other our community public park).

And I'm desperate to find certain pokemon honestly mostly Eevees, (which says that they are local in residential areas, which is where I am at) and geodudes. It's a hit and miss for me right now because of the step glitch. :/ But I woudn't mind trying it out. It's not cheating to me. It's just a form with pokemon spawns. It's the same as whipping out a pokedex in game, to find a pokemon you sighted?

Squirrel July 27th, 2016 2:29 PM

Gotta say the downtime on this is starting to get a bit irritating! I've started using PokéVision more often now as the three-step glitch is just making it far too difficult to fairly track down new Pokémon but I can't say it's the most useful thing either in itself - not sure if the maps of my area are just a bit wonky or something but the Pokémon listed are very rarely actually in the spots they say, but instead usually turn up 2 or 3 minutes walk away which is often far enough to let it despawn. Do you guys get this problem too?

Phoenixstarz July 28th, 2016 12:59 AM

for it to work well you need lots of other people in your area using it at the same time but is definately really useful, it helps you find where rare spawning locations are. Only problem is it shows a very small area around where you scan so you need lots of people scanning different spots so its easy to miss things.
For me its not cheating, firstly you still have to go out and actually go the location where the pokemon is. Secondly even if it shows a pokemon in your nearby that doesnt mean you will easily find it on pokevision and finally it needs teamwork to use effectively so to me thats in the spirit of the game ;)

ßritto July 28th, 2016 5:28 AM

I find the Site super useful, I have found some Pokémon in locations that I would of never of walked up and those times of day etc.

It doesn't show Pokémon on Lure Modules however ~

serdarsezgin July 29th, 2016 1:27 AM

I'm using pokevision as a time saver :) if i see a pokemon on the screen, im starting a game. It works.

Sirindu July 29th, 2016 2:04 PM

Alright, I've come back to eat some humble pie.

I should have looked into this a bit more before forming an opinion. Having done a bit more research now, I'm somewhat coming around in the other direction.

At the very least, I wouldn't go so far as to call it cheating.

Some of you made some good points that I spent time looking into. Foremost, I feel stupid that I didn't even realize HOW BROKEN the three step radar is right now. It's not even showing the correct Pokemon in your general area half the time for most people. So not only can you not triangulate a Pokemon's position, you really can't even rely on it for what's nearby. =(

I do feel like it takes away from the exploration element of the game. I'm hesitant to use it on an outing because, well, I just want to go out and explore and have fun and talk more with the people around me who are playing rather than rely on an app for information.

But that's just me.

I won't call it (or you) a cheater. Use it to make the game more enjoyable for you, however that is. I may even use it while at home sometimes now that I know I can't even rely on my radar to tell me what's nearby so I can go check my nearby spawn points.


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