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That aside, out of the Pokemon still in the running for Alola forms, there aren't really that many I want (apart from the afore mentioned Jynx and Rapidash). The Ekans/Oddish line are really the only ones I want now. But in saying that, I don't really have all that of a creative stride to me, and I just can't see any of them getting different forms and changing types, so if I were to see some more Pokemon get Alola forms, I would probably like them seeing their designs. I just wish the list wasn't so condensed, some of the crossed out Pokemon I think could have really cool designs - such as Omanyte, Kabuto, Lapras, Dragonite, Drowzee, and Tauros. |
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Well, we did have the overworld model for normal Meowth in one of the very first trailers which was a few weeks prior to the Alola form announcement. I suppose it's just as easy to obtain the normal form of the Pokemon as it is the alolan, that would explain why the protag's mother owns a normal Meowth.
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Nothing in the title has anything to suggest they would be likely or are still possibilities. |
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I really, really, really, REALLY love Alola!Vulpix! I want one of my own. Hopefully it's not a Sun Exclusive because I'm getting Moon. I like Alola!Meowth, too. The only one that I don't like is Alola!Raichu. I guess I just don't think Raichu needed an Alola form. I mean, mice don't really have a lot of variety in terms of region. Foxes and cats do, so it makes sense for them to have a regional form. I don't know. Alola!Raichu just doesn't sit well with me for some reason.
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I don't think Alolan Vulpix/Ninetails will be version exclusive, although it is possible. As I believe it was a version exclusive with Arcanine. Pretty early on, it is fairly easy to get fair trades on the GTS. I know with XY, I did a lot of trading for version exclusives. And if you use this site, you can definitely get the trades you need.
I still say we will have at least 10 more. Having 20 on the 20th Ann Game, I think is a nice little thing to do. I still really don't want to count any out, but if we were to get 10 more, I think these would be good. (Note this is taking into account most of everything we have seen with normal forms in case they are confirmed not to have one) I am also going to go up to 15 more, as I can't choose and some lines may not be completely included similar to Marowak and Execcutor. Spoiler:
I would love for Manky and Primeape to get some love. They are a line that I think is sometimes forgotten and the only reason I usually remember it is because Ash had a Primeape. And even then, I forget he caught one sometimes. So I would really really love to see them get a Alolan. |
I could think of a whole bunch of Pokemon beyond the first generation that I'd love to see get an Alolan form, but at this stage it doesn't seem likely. I do love the concept of these forms and there are still a couple of Kanto Pokemon that I'd like to see with one. Parasect and Porygon spring to mind.
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But actually that begs the question, from a history point of view, I wonder why only Kanto-native Pokémon have adapted with new forms in Alola. Surely Johto-native Pokémon would too, since Kanto and Johto are geographically connected. |
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Not only Kanto Pokemon get Alola Forms but they also get exclusive Z-Moves as well.
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While having a third version would be great to expand this feature, the issue is that Game Freak ditched third versions entirely due to wanting to be unpredictable. This was why we had 7th Gen announced as the next games after OR/AS instead of the Z version everyone was expecting. |
I don't think we ever had an official statement on this. All I remember is them being unpredictable, which is why we had B2/W2 come after B/W instead of a third version.
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As for a third version to SM, is it really that likely for the games which are meant to celebrate the series's 20th anniversary to get a third version with more content to overshadow them in a year or two? Even if the possibility is there, is that what fans would want? Especially after XY didn't get a third version despite drastically needing one, at that. The same logic many people used for why they're glad we never got "Z" would be appropriate: SM should have had all the content possible from the beginning. Them being the anniversary titles makes this even more imperative. Personally, at this point, I would be very unhappy if I were to get Sun or Moon and then a year later Pokémon Supernova is announced and it's just SM but with the Alola forms I wanted to see to begin with (read: non-gen 1). And I mean, would it really be that odd if SM were the only games to have regional differences? Not that I think they will be--I'm still hoping for DPP remakes with "Sinnoh forms," after all. But I mean, everyone seems really certain that there won't be any more new Mega Evolutions despite only being around for 2 sets of games and the concept itself being more far-reaching than "Alola forms" (there's only one Alola, after all). |
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But in regards to SM, since gen 6 was dropped in such a haphazard fashion, I'd honestly rather just leave Alola behind and move onto bigger and better things if they fail to deliver a fair variety of new Pokémon, forms, and the like. Why stick around in Alola longer than we have to if it couldn't give us the regional variations and whatever other things we wanted the first time around? That was a lot of peoples' logic when it came to skipping over a third version to XY and I think it can easily apply here. SM is going to give us access to Zygarde Complete so I'm sure a future, non-Alola game can give us access to new forms of non-gen 1 Pokémon. ...That is, if Game Freak ever decides they're worth their time to make... Quote:
Here's an official screenshot of a Pokémon Bank account connected to Pokémon X: https://i.gyazo.com/4223faf19b343a13853191428da3f4c6.png Notice the Pokémon with the kind of grayed-out background? Those originate from gen 7, and can't be transferred backwards into gen 6--so, the usual transfer limitations. Here's an official screenshot of a Pokémon Bank account connected to Pokémon Sun: https://i.gyazo.com/69b161a26080c08d8b0bbcdea968086a.png Notice how both a regular ol' Vulpix and Alolan Vulpix can be sent into Sun. I think it's safe to say that this point towards Alola forms being, well, a form difference, which means they can be traded from game to game (and transferred into newer generations), but with limitations on how they are obtained. Even if we never see regional differences outside of Alola, I'm certain we'll be able to transfer and use (and probably even breed) Alola forms in future generations. As for "Are Sinnoh forms really going to be a thing?" well, you tell me: will we ever get new Mega Evolutions? |
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I remember these games are directed towards all audiences, both to older players and to newer players. Pokémon Go introduced many new players into the scene and having to suddenly see 650-700+ more Pokémon (should it go that direction) would be sort of..'wow this is making me lazy plus the guys who know these games are intimidating' thus making em more hesitant to get the new games cause they may think it seems exclusive to older players but really TPCi/GF is really just trying to cater to new audiences (almost every generation) I seriously think that most Pokémon in this region would be Gen I because it's like a new game/remake to the whole Pokémon series. I mean look at the new Animé; it's also so different from the rest of them. Still I get where you guys are coming from. :) |
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As one of many who is sick of the gen 1 pandering that's been occurring not just during the year in which the entire series should be celebrated, but also three years ago with XY, I wouldn't believe any reason given for why the Alola forms are only of gen 1 Pokémon as a good enough excuse to overlook that it's a major disappointment. Not only can it not reasonably be explained in-game, but it also destroys a lot of creative opportunities (I can imagine a popsicle-like Alolan Vanillite but I cannot fathom why Vanillite would need to change at all in Sinnoh) just for the sake of keeping the spotlight on gen 1 instead of giving opportunities to Pokémon across all generations. |
I don't think the are intentionally reducing the number. Kalos was a test. So they made fewer pokemon, plus the guy designing them had an artist block. Which is hard to overcome.
We know there will at least be 20 more pokemon. That is probably evolutions alone. And having Alolan Forms would come more to confusing people returning people than new pokemon. This is not at all like a remake. They only reason they are doing this is because it is the 20th Ann. As for Sinnoh Forms, I extremely very seriously doubt that. Even with remakes, I don't understand why they would have Sinnoh Forms. Nothing has changed in Sinnoh, so it would make no since for them to adapt when they are already adapted. The Regional Variants may only be for new Regions in the future. They aren't focused on getting people back. Game wise, they don't need them. They need to focus on the new players and the current ones. As the ones who are still playing the games before Go, are probably the more loyal fanbase and will likely continue to stick with the games in the future. Besides, Go has already increased sells for the 3DS and Pokemon games by a lot since Go came out. They have to stop with focusing on Generation 1. The whole series should be celebrated. And I know a large amount of people are getting sick of all the Gen 1 stuff. |
Personally I hope to see a lot more Gen 1 Alolan forms.
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