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Afterglow Ampharos August 1st, 2016 1:51 PM

Pokémon Type-shifts confirmed canon.

Fans have been making Poison Typhlosions, Ghost Ponyta, and Glass Onix for a long time, and now it's a real thing.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 1st, 2016 1:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 9347293)
http://67.media.tumblr.com/668f3d7514518be6aa32d6c029a6354c/tumblr_ob8mzl2uRv1tvr41fo1_1280.jpg

It's like they've planned this form all along.



Are you a wizard?

Well the official site mentions that Alolans believe their version of Exeggutor to be it's true form. Considering the dex entry, and the old Jungle expansion of the card game, the Alolans are probably right.

Pinkie-Dawn August 1st, 2016 2:05 PM

Anyone believe that the Alola forms will have the exact same stat spreads as their regular forms?

tokyodrift August 1st, 2016 2:19 PM

I'm still not done fangirling over Vulpix/Ninetales. They've taken two of my favorite Pokemon and added my two favorite types. I can already tell I'll definitely be using one. Though, this makes me wonder if the hidden ability will be along the lines of Snow Warning since it originally got Drought.

None the less, I'm super excited for these games even more. I can't wait!

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Alolan Ninetales live on a snowy peak that is revered in the Alola region as a holy mountain. They are treated as sacred emissaries, and people meet them with awe and fear. This Pokémon’s personality is extremely gentle, and at times it has helped humans who seem to be in distress. However, it shows no mercy at all to anyone or anything that dares to damage its territory!

The Alolan Ninetales is able to produce ice crystals from the fur that covers its body. It can use these ice crystals to block attacks, or it can form balls of ice with them, which it fires like bullets at opponents. The power of these ice missiles is great enough to pulverize rock!
This sounds really interesting.

Caaethil August 1st, 2016 2:21 PM

"Kiawe is a captain whose expertise is in Fire-type Pokémon. Together with his Marowak, he studies the traditional dances that have been passed down in the Alola region."

I mean, uh... I'm not saying there's gonna be an Alola form Marowak, but, um...

Squirrel August 1st, 2016 2:28 PM

I am absolutely dying at how adorable the Alolan Sandshrew is and how amazing the Alolan Sandslash looks. In general I think it's a cool concept to have new formes of these Pokémon based on their migration patterns but it's a bit odd to me that such drastic changes are happening with them - I can understand Sandshrew becoming an Ice-type due to the climate it's adapting to but how is it suddenly able to produce metal plates onto its body using the same DNA as Sandshrew? It's not a big problem and doesn't stop me liking them but I feel like the changes may be a little too extreme in some cases to feel like it's just a migrated version of the Pokémon rather than an entirely new species. Ninetales as well bugs me - why could the current Ninetales not have an interesting second typing like the new version does? Again, I do really like these new formes but they feel a little sloppy haha.

Ultan August 1st, 2016 2:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 9347351)
Anyone believe that the Alola forms will have the exact same stat spreads as their regular forms?

They may stay the same, they may get distributed differently and stay the same total, the Alolan Sandshrew/Sandslash's description on the Pokemon website says it is slower than a normal Sandshrew, also says something like excels defensively. Something along the same lines is mentioned in Sandslash's description.

I don't think they will all remain the same. Alolan Exeggutor uses a physical move, in the trailer not that means anything but regular Exeggutor has much better special attack than physical but it was more likely shown to that it learns different moves.

Rivvon August 1st, 2016 3:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Caaethil (Post 9347390)
"Kiawe is a captain whose expertise is in Fire-type Pokémon. Together with his Marowak, he studies the traditional dances that have been passed down in the Alola region."

I mean, uh... I'm not saying there's gonna be an Alola form Marowak, but, um...

Here lies Ground/Ghost Parental Bond Mega Marowak
2013 - 2016
It was fun while it lasted.

Hikamaru August 1st, 2016 3:18 PM

Ultan has a point with the description of Sandshrew and Sandslash becoming slower with these new forms, which could imply the Alola Forms may have different stat spreads than their normal counterparts.

blue August 1st, 2016 3:39 PM

I think giving Ninetales an icy look is one of the best improvements it could get. It looks so majestic and I just love how both Vulpix and Ninetales look in battle!

jfuze174 August 1st, 2016 3:57 PM

I just can't wait to see alola arcanines typing be honest I'd like every Pokemon that's foreign to alola have alola forms , it can help with that Darwinism theme it's going for

Caaethil August 1st, 2016 4:04 PM

COUGH.

http://image.prntscr.com/image/0bfc840a9b88432d965963746bb9648b.png

COUGH.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 1st, 2016 4:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Caaethil (Post 9347560)

I noticed that earlier too. However, the white hair could also be due to the effect of they're going for with the 'lighting'. However, it seems too big of a difference to be the lighting.

Caaethil August 1st, 2016 4:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9347570)
I noticed that earlier too. However, the white hair could also be due to the effect of they're going for with the 'lighting'. However, it seems too big of a difference to be the lighting.

You can actually see shadowing on its mane. It's a very specific area, too - parts of the kit used for riding seem to be the same colour Tauros' mane should be. You'd think they, along with other aspects of the image, would be lighter too. Finally, the horns and mane are pretty much the exact same colour, even though they are completely different on normal Tauros. If it was just the lighting, you'd see a notable difference.

But the obvious answer is yes, that is way too extreme to be the lighting.

Bellsprout August 1st, 2016 4:53 PM

only one I really like is vulpix/ninetales. I'm really surprised they didn't go ice/psychic or ice/ghost. I hope there's more to be seen!

Afterglow Ampharos August 1st, 2016 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirrel (Post 9347406)
I can understand Sandshrew becoming an Ice-type due to the climate it's adapting to but how is it suddenly able to produce metal plates onto its body using the same DNA as Sandshrew?

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Originally Posted by http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/alolan-sandshrew
The Alolan Sandshrew has a shell of ice covering its skin, which is like hard steel.

This leads me to believe there is no literal metal in Alolan Sandshrew, or "Snowshrew" as I've taken to calling it.

StarsMmd August 1st, 2016 5:38 PM

I've been hoping for a while now that hail gets a buff (frosslass being one of my favourite pokemon). Now I'm actually expecting it. We got new ice type forms which both have snow cloak for some reason. I feel like they're giving more options for hail teams. Maybe they'll introduce a defense buff or attack buff for ice types in hail and even make a swift swim/sand rush/chlorophyll equivalent for hail.

Afterglow Ampharos August 1st, 2016 5:39 PM

For those wondering why Alolan Exeggutor is dragon type: It's once again a name pun, similar to Mega-Ampharos.

(At least Ampharos was designed after partly a sheep and partly a dragon, but whatever)

There exists a palm tree called the dracaena marginata, aka the dragon palm and many other dragon-themed names.
http://www.llifle.com/Encyclopedia/SUCCULENTS/Family/Agavaceae/22865/photos/Yucca_draco_22408_m.jpg

Also, this is POSSIBLY not tall-Exeggutor's first appearance. Look at this old booster box.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Coxtyl0UIAA7PLK.jpg

Pinkie-Dawn August 1st, 2016 5:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Caaethil (Post 9347560)

Didn't they already show Tauros in-game from July's Japanese trailer, and it just happen to be a regular Tauros?

EC August 1st, 2016 5:55 PM

I wonder what caused Vulpix and Sandshew to become ice types in this region.

Solar Snivy August 1st, 2016 5:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 9347721)
Didn't they already show Tauros in-game from July's Japanese trailer, and it just happen to be a regular Tauros?

Yes.

And I seriously doubt they would make a new form for it that looks so similar. It's not as if it's the only pokemon that's washed out.

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Originally Posted by EvilChameleon (Post 9347727)
I wonder what caused Vulpix and Sandshew to become ice types in this region.

Read their entries on the official website.

Drake22ice August 1st, 2016 6:01 PM

I don't know.. maybe they wanted to bring some old pokemon sun in with new forms to become new powerhouse pokemon. You never know when pokemon go will bring in later gens.. with location exclusive forms of pokemon

Iceshadow3317 August 1st, 2016 7:23 PM

I wonder how they will deal with evolution. Vulpix needs a fire stone to evolve, I wonder if it will still need a fire stone or if something else will take effect. Having an Alolan Vulpix needing a Fire Stone would kinda break the reasoning for it being Ice. So I wonder what they plan to do.

jfuze174 August 1st, 2016 7:56 PM

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Originally Posted by IcyIce (Post 9347844)
I wonder how they will deal with evolution. Vulpix needs a fire stone to evolve, I wonder if it will still need a fire stone or if something else will take effect. Having an Alolan Vulpix needing a Fire Stone would kinda break the reasoning for it being Ice. So I wonder what they plan to do.

I'm guessing we get ninetails the same way as glaceon

Iceshadow3317 August 1st, 2016 8:00 PM

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Originally Posted by colours (Post 9347893)
I'm thinking Vulpix found naturally in the wild might be Ice type? Though another caveat with that is what if players actually want the Fire type Vuplix. Hm.

I am thinking they would use logic in a situation like this and have both forms. Only being different depending on the area in which it is found. I love the idea of the new forms, but like others, I am still hoping we can get both.


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