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How Much Are We Going To Do In Alola?
First, before I begin, may I just point out how big Alola is compared to your character? I mean, from what we're playing as, the region looks huge. May I also mention the Alola map?
http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/alolamap.jpg I don't know if it's just me or not, but I feel that this might be our longest journey yet. I mean we start off on Melemele island and it's been confirmed that we have to defeat more than 4 captains, quests set by the captains, totem Pokemon, and the Kahunas. We also have legendaries, an evil team( if we have one) and other questions that need answers(like Zygarde). It's also speculated that because we don't have a traditional gym system here that we might be going back to Kalos. So that got me wondering... how long is this game and how much are we possibly going to do in this region? How will that affect us in the initial gameplay? Do you think it'll be longer or shorter? |
For the 20th anniversary games, we better get endless content that will last us until the games after these.
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And I'm sure Kalos could fit in the game, as the biggest 3DS cartridges have 8 GB, which is more than enough. Whether or not GF is actually willing to remake Kalos to put in Sun and Moon is the biggest hindrance. |
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I admit X and Y had things that needed to be answered such as Zygarde and some parts involving AZ and Lysandre( seriously, what happened to them after all that crap?) But I agree, I would absolutely HATE it if they shoved another region's problems down our throat. I mean, leave Alola alone. Can't we just have one region with focus on only their lore? We did that with Black and White and that turned out great. I feel you. Gamefreak might only include Kalos as small post-game material(like Rayquaza in ORAS) I don't expect it to be huge, but not very little. However, I hope they incorporate it well so it doesn't feel like, "Yeah, Kalos happened so......here?" |
Longer isn't always better. The captains described thus far seem to give the player tasks such as a fetch quest and a simple "point out the differences" puzzle. So depending on how these Island Trials are handled, it could feel like a long, drawn-out slog rather than a fun, expansive adventure. I mean, people normally don't like fetch quests, right?
So I'm sure the game will feel long simply due to the size of the region. But whether it's a fun kind of long or a repetitive kind of long (think of RSE's Hoenn being half water, but with Gym challenges instead) has yet to be seen. There's also a matter of difficulty. If all the challenges we face are easy, even the longest of games can be completed quickly. Likewise, the post-game content being more than just online battles could still prove to be an important factor of the longevity of the games regardless of the size of the region. Quote:
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And if SM take place after XY, visiting Kalos would be more like having a whole new game, with very few of the older characters actually returning. Just because XY was bad doesn't mean Kalos is completely impossible to revamp. Anything can be revamped. And I don't know what AZ has to do with Alola but I know Zygarde has something to do with it and I want to know what. Quote:
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But at the same time, I will say this: there's already a lot of gen 1 pandering going on here, and these Alolians or whatever they call themselves dared to use the Mighty Letter Z to name their Final Smash Attacks. They're the ones getting into other peoples' business! |
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Also, it was said that they're gonna finish Kalos' story in a unique way, so on top of Zygarde I highly doubt Alola has no ties to Kalos, return or no return. |
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I agree, compared to the character, the region is going to probably be huge. I hope it isn't very annoying though. I expect some iota of challenge after X and Y's Champion thoroughly disappointed me. To be honest, I don't know how post game stuff will fly, but hopefully it's more than what we got in the original Black and White. As a side note, I'm glad that we're both on the same page about Black and White cutting itself off. Personally, I'm in love with that idea. I have a whole new region to myself to frolic about in with new Pokemon. It's just my cup of tea. After the game was released so many people complained about the game not having other region Pokemon and that there was only focus on Black and White Pokemon and my response is "Yeah...that's kind of the point." You are in a new region with over 100's of new pokemon, Legendaries whose roles varies in each game, and you complain about your precious prev-gen pokemon not being in the game? Yeah...I didn't buy that. Black and White had a lot more to offer than most Pokemon games in my honest opinion. |
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And just saying, we practically had no reason to return to Kanto in GSC/HGSS, at least here there's something. |
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And I don't really think that being nearby is an any better justification than story purposes. |
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And I'm not really sure what you're asking in the second part. |
First of all, there are tons of pokemon that can be found in regions other then their own.
Second, we were just at kalos, and we won't be going there again anytime soon. Also I agree with colours, there's really nothing much to do there. Shopping? We know customization is coming back so there will likely be shops like that in alola. Sure there's one or two shops that probably won't return, such as the poke ball store, but they could easily shove that inside a department store. Although I could be biased as kalos is my least favorite region ATM. |
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As for the Kanto and Johto thing, might as well answer it: I think it was just for the sake of going back. |
I just hope they bring back the Johto balls so we can use em on Gen 5 to 7 Pokemon.
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(First Post, Hey!) To comment on the Gen 1/2 connections, the plot was also very heavily intertwined between the two regions. Professor Oak appears very early on, as well as Team Rocket of course. Gen 1 & 2 were naturally destined to melt into each other. The same connections can't be Seen with Gen 6 & 7, generally speaking. Especially Geographically.
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Just a quick question... am I like the only person who was okay with the endings of X&Y? I like open endedness, and I felt like the story was good enough.
But I thought it was fanon (or maybe canon) that Lysandre's dead as dead can be in Y, but in X he has a fate worse than death by being immortal under a pile of rocks? And the rest of the heros were also immortal due to being exposed to the weapon? |
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Unless I'm proven wrong and we literally can fly to Kalos. |
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I mean, it's possible that zygardes origin region is actually alola, and that it just appeared in kalos? That could be an interesting plot twist.
Also, regarding the OP, the map may be big, but don't forget there weren't even enough cities for a proper gym system, and people were saying how short the routes were. |
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Though I understand everyone wants a story for it, I think it could be left alone, honestly. If Zygarde awkens the world is in some true ass trouble. Though now that i think of it, a true apocalypse in the pokemon world would be great. |
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But no one would think we'd: -Have Alolan forms. Basically Delta Species. -There would be no gym system in place. -Pokemon variations based on islands. -Z Moves. -Full 3D landscape. I wasn't expecting this at least. I'm just saying that they've been bucking and changing things to unexpected ways, and doing another twist to the second region formula from Gold and Silver, since X/Y are a homage to RBGY, might be possible. I wonder if this means we'll get Alolan Johto starters, then ,at the beginning? This is just what I think may happen, and I'll probably be wrong. But it would be interesting. |
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Also, I'm pretty certain there are at least eight gym like places that could've worked. Quote:
Also, as I said before, it was already said at E3 that we'd get a story for Zygarde (in a "special way"). |
I think the length depends on how they're going to handle it. They might have us just be going to specific spots and everything else is just for us to explore on our own time. Like remember how in ORAS we had some huge routes to traverse but several times they "teleported" us (or at least gave us the option to automatically go there)? I mean, it looks promising, but still.
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