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demifiend700 August 29th, 2016 4:45 AM

Sadly, I don't think megas will return, especially when the creators have been stressing all of these new mechanics (Alola Forms, Z-Moves, etc.)
I have a feeling that they're gone for good.

shadowmoon522 August 29th, 2016 7:56 AM

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Originally Posted by demifiend700 (Post 9386310)
Sadly, I don't think megas will return, especially when the creators have been stressing all of these new mechanics (Alola Forms, Z-Moves, etc.)
I have a feeling that they're gone for good.

i don't seem to recall them putting much focus & black kyurem or white kyurem when XY where released, and that thing was a fusion.
they also seem to be keeping more to themselves this time around as well.

Hikamaru September 1st, 2016 8:10 AM

So with the reveal of certain Pokemon having exclusive Z-Moves (as shown with Snorlax and Alolan Raichu in the new trailer) who thinks this mechanic is replacing Mega Evolution altogether? Remember we still haven't had any hints to Megas returning.

Rivvon September 1st, 2016 8:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9390507)
So with the reveal of certain Pokemon having exclusive Z-Moves (as shown with Snorlax and Alolan Raichu in the new trailer) who thinks this mechanic is replacing Mega Evolution altogether? Remember we still haven't had any hints to Megas returning.

If Megas are genuinely not even going to return I may not even purchase the games at launch. Some of my favorite Pokémon are Megas and to just remove the mechanic altogether is absurd and unwarranted. Giving exclusive Z Moves to Pokémon who don't have Megas is one thing, but having these replace them? I genuinely don't think I could come up with a reason to justify that.

Karous September 1st, 2016 12:23 PM

I don't understand why people think they're going to get removed? I can't think of any form besides Gizamimi Pichu and Shadow Pokemon that were exclusive to one generation, much less a major feature of that generation. They went through the trouble to keep making Skymin, Therian genies, Deoxys, etc. in the game and Rotom is even getting a new form after three generations.

What is almost certain is that megas are going to get reworked, like tweaking abilities or BST. I believe one of the devs is on record talking about nerfing Mega Kanga and megas as power creep is a hot topic in the competitive community. They probably are going to focus on Alolan forms and Z moves this time around and there will be no new megas, given that they were a massive failure as far as game balance goes so it is probably best not to introduce more for the time being.

QueenNothing September 14th, 2016 8:37 PM

Do you think Megas will return?
 
This really has me concerned honestly. The thought they'll be thrown out the window for something as gimmicky and broken as Z-moves is kind of worrying as a competitive player.

Bobbylicious September 14th, 2016 8:51 PM

They'll return, there just probably wont be new ones.

MegaKuriboh September 14th, 2016 9:12 PM

You're worried about Megas being replaced by something broken? Did you even play Gen 6?

Kidding aside, there's no way they'd remove a feature so huge it was advertised across a whole Generation, tossing aside 50 designs in the process. Think of the backlash Game Freak would get for making Pokemon like Beedrill, Mawile and Kangaskan useless again. There's also the fact that two characters from XY appear (and seem to have Mega Rings) in this game, and the fact that Generations will show Megas again and it would be weird to show them again just to say "Hah hah, your favourite Pokemon designs are gone". They must be available during the Post Game. I'm not entirely sure if they're gonna give us new ones, but there's no way they'd be gone entirely.

blue September 15th, 2016 4:10 AM

Yeah, but it's hard to say whether there will be new megas or not. I'd assume if there are any new megas then there would be a significantly lower amount than XY/ORAS introduced. With Alolan forms being the main focus for S/M, I can't imagine all that many Pokemon receiving a new mega tbh.

Iceshadow3317 September 15th, 2016 4:14 AM

Pretty sure Megas will return, but I don't see why you think Z-Moves are broken. You can use them once per battle and that is it. Everyone will probably have one, so it balances out.

skyburial September 15th, 2016 6:11 AM

Guys, come on. Megas will be back. That's a lot of IP to just throw out the door and Pokémon games have always been cumulative.

WeyounRagnarok September 15th, 2016 8:37 AM

I found something in the recent trailer that seems to indicate the return of mega evolutions. Near the end, you see 4 characters using z-moves, a quick clip of solgaleo, and then the main character going through another motion sequence. If you watch the video at 1/4 speed, you can see that while the character motions are similar, the graphics are different in this final sequence. Instead of the reddish-orange background flare that the z-moves produce, this motion produces a couple of rainbow-colored starburst patterns.

Now, I could be wrong, but this seems to indicate mega evolution to me.

QueenNothing September 15th, 2016 1:10 PM

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Originally Posted by IcyIce (Post 9410190)
Pretty sure Megas will return, but I don't see why you think Z-Moves are broken. You can use them once per battle and that is it. Everyone will probably have one, so it balances out.

The way it is, they'll just turn battles in the Meta-game into a race to get the Z-move.

shadowmoon522 September 15th, 2016 1:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PlasmaGruntMagus (Post 9410714)
The way it is, they'll just turn battles in the Meta-game into a race to get the Z-move.

i wanna know whether z mores are 1 hit ko moves or just have a 250 base power like explosion.

Rivvon September 15th, 2016 2:59 PM

Maybe not OHKO moves because then they'd be absurdly OP in competitive play but I imagine they'd at the very least ignore protection moves and maybe have very high priority, in addition to having super-high base power. But hey I could be completely wrong and next year we'll see Talonflame carrying Ultra-Mega-Death-Fire Z-Stones so it can use it to OHKO anything Brave Bird doesn't already seriously anything's possible 乁(ツ)ㄏ

MegaKuriboh September 15th, 2016 7:50 PM

Well, we did see Pikachu use a Normal type Z-move only do like 50% to a non resisted Pokemon, so they might not be all broken.

Aslan September 16th, 2016 6:15 AM

I think mega evolutions will still be included in the game, just with less emphasis placed on them. The Alolan Formes are supposed to catch people's attention more as it is a new feature. There will likely be less mega evolutions released for Sun and Moon so that they won't have to compete in the limelight with new Alolan Formes but who knows at this point! If mega evolutions are included, I'd say that they're either going to be included mid-game or post-game depending on how important of a role the Alolan forms play in the Sun and Moon storyline.

JJSparks September 16th, 2016 9:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Remus (Post 9411826)
I think mega evolutions will still be included in the game, just with less emphasis placed on them. The Alolan Formes are supposed to catch people's attention more as it is a new feature. There will likely be less mega evolutions released for Sun and Moon so that they won't have to compete in the limelight with new Alolan Formes but who knows at this point! If mega evolutions are included, I'd say that they're either going to be included mid-game or post-game depending on how important of a role the Alolan forms play in the Sun and Moon storyline.

I would agree with that, except we haven't seen a single mega evolution in Corocoro or the trailers

Rivvon September 16th, 2016 10:34 AM

The problem with not having seen a single Mega Evolution at all yet could lean in either direction:

Either there are no new Megas whatsoever, so they don't want to show any in the pre-release materials to get peoples' hopes up. Think of how they showed small snippets of Pokémon-Amie or the character customization: they haven't officially announced either of these things but through what we've seen of the trailers, they do have new aspects to them. If there are no new aspects to Mega Evolution (aka no new Megas) there's a good chance they don't want to show it occurring before SM's release.

On the other hand, they may still be waiting to show off its return, and the reason why they're waiting for so long is because they have something major to show alongside it (aka new Megas). You also have cases such as the final starter evolutions not being shown before the games' release. Of course they will be there, but we just don't get to see them. For "important" things sometimes they do take a long time to reveal them.

So... right now things could go either way. We have another news update in a few days and we have the rest of the month, all of October, and even the beginning of November for anything to be shown. It's literally anyone's guess at this point.

shadowmoon522 September 16th, 2016 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rivvon (Post 9412206)
The problem with not having seen a single Mega Evolution at all yet could lean in either direction:

Either there are no new Megas whatsoever, so they don't want to show any in the pre-release materials to get peoples' hopes up. Think of how they showed small snippets of Pokémon-Amie or the character customization: they haven't officially announced either of these things but through what we've seen of the trailers, they do have new aspects to them. If there are no new aspects to Mega Evolution (aka no new Megas) there's a good chance they don't want to show it occurring before SM's release.

On the other hand, they may still be waiting to show off its return, and the reason why they're waiting for so long is because they have something major to show alongside it (aka new Megas). You also have cases such as the final starter evolutions not being shown before the games' release. Of course they will be there, but we just don't get to see them. For "important" things sometimes they do take a long time to reveal them.

So... right now things could go either way. We have another news update in a few days and we have the rest of the month, all of October, and even the beginning of November for anything to be shown. It's literally anyone's guess at this point.

there's also something else they might be doing. namely making it so certain Z stones can trigger mega evolution rather then giving access to a z move

Hikamaru September 22nd, 2016 2:36 PM


http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=9420853&postcount=2050

I guess it appears we have closure, in case if anyone's paying attention to this thread. So yeah, Mega Evolutions do appear to be here to stay, albeit less focused.

blue September 28th, 2016 2:38 PM

Thought I'd throw this out there for some opinions.



Anyone think this could be one of the mega stones? It seems to resemble the mega stone sparkle from gen VI. If that is the case, then it looks like this can be found on what appears to be the second island which would suggest that mega stones are in fact available during the storyline. I know they've already been confirmed to be in the games, but some people think that it may be postgame content.

Hikamaru September 28th, 2016 2:53 PM

You know, I think that does look like the sparkles that you find a Mega Stone in. So maybe we can collect them during the story, but then the question is when would we be able to get a Key Stone that fits into the circle indent on the Z-Ring?

Desert Stream~ September 28th, 2016 6:26 PM

So at this point we just need to wait until new ones are revealed? I hope we get new ones. I know pretty much everyone wants them, but knowing GF, they don't care.

Hikamaru September 28th, 2016 6:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CUTIEFLY!!! (Post 9429456)
So at this point we just need to wait until new ones are revealed?

Yes.

My guess is still leaning towards no new Megas, though. Blame me always believing a bunch of trailers as the reason why.


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