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blue August 7th, 2016 7:43 AM

Returning Characters
 
In almost every new generation we're met with some familiar faces during our adventures. In Pokemon Black & White for example, we were able to meet up and battle with Cynthia from the Sinnoh Region. Looker also made an appearance in these games and had quite an important role in Pokemon X and Y during the post-game storyline. So with all that being said, are there any particular characters from past generations you'd like to see make a cameo in Alola? How much involvement do you think they should have in the main storyline? Discuss!

Personally, I'd love to see Zinnia make a return! She quickly became one of my favourite characters and I feel like she has so much more to offer. Since she only really had a chance to shine in the Delta Episode, I feel like she could really play a crucial role in the S/M storyline and whatever it entails.

BettyNewbie August 7th, 2016 8:27 AM

Considering that this is supposed to be the big 20th Anniversary game, I hope we get some returning characters, especially from Kanto and Johto. At minimum, I'd like to see Blue and Lance, the latter of whom has gotten very little attention since HGSS.

Cynthia can stuff it for all I care. She's already appeared in countless games and is beyond overexposed. Other characters are more deserving of the spotlight, IMO.

Rivvon August 7th, 2016 10:29 AM

The only characters I particularly care about enough to want them back are also very plot-important, and I would hate to see their characters ruined and delegated to "generic NPC" status just for the sake of seeing them in Alola (for instance, how Looker was handled in ORAS). While I think certain characters could be added, they'd likely need a "sub-plot" of their own to feel like they should be there in the first place, and of course I don't expect that to happen--so in the end, I'd rather not risk it. I would not be against lots of characters making an appearance for the sake of a PWT-esque facility, however.

Esper August 7th, 2016 11:02 AM

Some Kanto characters ought to be around so they can comment on the strange differences between Kanto Pokemon and their Alola counterparts. Have Prof. Oak be on vacation or something and get surprised by a giant Exeggutor.

demanrisu August 7th, 2016 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Esper (Post 9356584)
Some Kanto characters ought to be around so they can comment on the strange differences between Kanto Pokemon and their Alola counterparts. Have Prof. Oak be on vacation or something and get surprised by a giant Exeggutor.

Solid +1 for bathing suit Professor Oak.

sCam August 7th, 2016 11:22 AM

I agree with what Esper said. Would really hope for only 5 characters to make an appearance. Oak, Red, Lance, N, and Jasmine. Would love to be able to battle them all too.

kingdenas August 7th, 2016 1:23 PM

I would love to see Zinnia making a comeback. As Blue said, she still has much more to offer. I really loved Zinnia , and we only had a glance of her backstory in the Delta Episode, so it's still an unexplored character.
Besides Zinnia, I would like Cynthia to return (Don't ask me why, I just think she's the best champion and I love her) as well as Alder ( because when I look at Alder, I think I'm seeing a stranger, 'cause I really don't know a lot about him) and maaaaaaaaybe Lance.

blue August 7th, 2016 4:44 PM

X/Y seemed to have several subtle refrences to Kanto, maybe this time we'll actually see some characters pop up from there? We've already got the Alolan forms of a few Kanto Pokemon, perhaps Oak could sail over and explain the difference and reasoning behind these alternate forms as Esper mentioned.

Hikamaru August 7th, 2016 5:36 PM

I think AZ could potentially return because Kalos has a lot of unsolved mysteries and it's been said Kalos and Alola may share a connection with Zygarde. Also, since I'm speculating Mega Evolution won't be available until postgame (since the main plot should focus on the new Z-Moves) I feel AZ could grant the player to use Mega Evolution.

Just my theory though, so take it with a grain of salt.

MegaKuriboh August 7th, 2016 10:23 PM

I would love to see many characters make apperences and even battle you, considering this is the 20th anniversary games after all. Kalos barely had any old characters return (except for Looker) and ORAS didn't put any other gen characters either (except again, Looker). I'd love mostly to see some pre-gen 6 characters return just to see them have cool 3D models, people like Cynthia, Blue, Cheren, Blaine, any Battle Frontier boss, Silver, Alder would be awesome to see again. And I'd love to see Zinnia and AZ again, the two Gen 6 characters that interested me the most yet I feel like I barely know anything about them, and it would be cool to see Lysandre too
XY spoiler?
Spoiler:
if he's not dead.


Actually, just give me the PWT again, it would be perfect in this game, they are the 20th aniversary games after all, and going through that with your own customizable character, Z-Moves, Mega evolutions, 800+ Pokemon and seeing every Gym Leader and Champion in beautiful 3D models? Yes, please. Even throw in Elite 4 members (I really need to see Lorelei again) and even rivals, and it would make this the best Pokemon games.

jfuze174 August 8th, 2016 6:59 AM

Be honest I wouldn't mind a red moment for sun and moon meaning that the strongest trainer you face in the game is you (character is XY) using what ever Pokemon you have in your xy party , battle box or the last Pokemon you used for the HOF

OwzK August 8th, 2016 8:03 AM

Prof. Oak, I like new people, I love it when it's a whole new adventure with totally new people. But there are some I like, I liked Brock but that's unrealistic, I'd like Prof. Oak and maybe, since it's the 20th anniversary to get Ash as the champion in the pokemon league. That would be cool.

Mister Coffee August 8th, 2016 2:49 PM

I seriously think Caitlin will make a significant return appearance in this game. My current theory on this is, Caitlin owns the huge resort hotel on the big Island and also I'm also pretty sure that Lillie is Caitlin's little sister.
Caitlin is one of my favorite characters throughout the franchise so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that she's going to have a pretty large role in Sun and Moon.

Iceshadow3317 August 8th, 2016 4:45 PM

I honestly think Green will return to the games. It was said that he went to Kalos and he made an appearance in the manga.

I am also really hoping that they finally make an in-game model of Yellow and Blue from the manga and let them return as well.

MegaKuriboh August 8th, 2016 5:11 PM

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Originally Posted by IcyIce (Post 9358976)
I honestly think Green will return to the games. It was said that he went to Kalos and he made an appearance in the manga.

I am also really hoping that they finally make an in-game model of Yellow and Blue from the manga and let them return as well.

The people who create the games and the people who create the Manga are different sets of people, the manga is inspired by the games but with their own twists and heavier story, and they have TPCi and Satoshi Tajiri's blessings. Yellow is completely manga original while Blue is based off a concept art from the original games in which Red and Green are seen with an unamed girl (and she later goes on to adopt Leaf's clothes style).

Rivvon August 8th, 2016 7:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Coffee (Post 9358840)
I seriously think Caitlin will make a significant return appearance in this game. My current theory on this is, Caitlin owns the huge resort hotel on the big Island and also I'm also pretty sure that Lillie is Caitlin's little sister.
Caitlin is one of my favorite characters throughout the franchise so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that she's going to have a pretty large role in Sun and Moon.

Yo, I'll vouch for this. This would be nice to see, as a fellow Caitlin fan. Give Caitlin some time in the spotlight and implement Lillie into the story in a way that isn't the most boringly obvious "she's a bad guy / related to a bad guy!" And it totally fits Caitlin, too, owning that resort.

blue August 9th, 2016 2:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Coffee (Post 9358840)
I seriously think Caitlin will make a significant return appearance in this game. My current theory on this is, Caitlin owns the huge resort hotel on the big Island and also I'm also pretty sure that Lillie is Caitlin's little sister.
Caitlin is one of my favorite characters throughout the franchise so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that she's going to have a pretty large role in Sun and Moon.

Yeah, I definitely have a feeling we will be seeing Caitlin again. Her dialogue from previous games seem to almost foreshadow and support this. Not only that, but as you said, she owns a resort and what better place to have it than right in Alola?

Tsutarja August 9th, 2016 6:51 PM

Looker or bust.

Lapis August 9th, 2016 7:08 PM

I'm not really sure who I would want to make a cameo appearance in Sun/Moon. I do want a few characters though since it is the big 20th anniversary game and all.

Rivvon August 10th, 2016 6:36 PM

I would not be opposed if Marlon and Brawly make some cameos. Aside from swimming and surfing I don't know what they'd do, but hey. I won't complain.

BettyNewbie August 15th, 2016 9:14 AM

Saw this in a recent leak:


All Champions from previous games are able to battled on the S.S. Anne while they’re bored. The S.S. Anne brings you to the districts.

This matches up with what was posted in a Chinese leak about a month ago:


- S.S Anne appears in the game


- Looker, Cynthia, Blue, Zinnia, AZ, and Lance all make appearances

Could the S.S. Anne be returning as a sort of pared-down PWT? Assuming the leak is valid, that is.

Assuming we're still in the XY/ORAS timeline, I wonder if the characters (besides Steven and Diantha) will have new/different designs? I also wonder if Wallace will even be there, since ORAS retconned him out of being a Champion.

kingdenas August 15th, 2016 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BettyNewbie (Post 9369054)
Saw this in a recent leak:


All Champions from previous games are able to battled on the S.S. Anne while they’re bored. The S.S. Anne brings you to the districts.

This matches up with what was posted in a Chinese leak about a month ago:


- S.S Anne appears in the game


- Looker, Cynthia, Blue, Zinnia, AZ, and Lance all make appearances

Could the S.S. Anne be returning as a sort of pared-down PWT? Assuming the leak is valid, that is.

Assuming we're still in the XY/ORAS timeline, I wonder if the characters (besides Steven and Diantha) will have new/different designs? I also wonder if Wallace will even be there, since ORAS retconned him out of being a Champion.

ZINNIA OMG I WANT HER BACK SO BAAAAAAAD.

It would be cool if that was true. I'd love to see my sweet Cynthia(and Zinnia) again in 3D :3

MegaKuriboh August 15th, 2016 3:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BettyNewbie (Post 9369054)
Saw this in a recent leak:


All Champions from previous games are able to battled on the S.S. Anne while they’re bored. The S.S. Anne brings you to the districts.

This matches up with what was posted in a Chinese leak about a month ago:


- S.S Anne appears in the game


- Looker, Cynthia, Blue, Zinnia, AZ, and Lance all make appearances

Could the S.S. Anne be returning as a sort of pared-down PWT? Assuming the leak is valid, that is.

Assuming we're still in the XY/ORAS timeline, I wonder if the characters (besides Steven and Diantha) will have new/different designs? I also wonder if Wallace will even be there, since ORAS retconned him out of being a Champion.

It's implied in the Delta Episode that Steven eventually gives up his position to Wallace. Anyways I would LOVE for this to be real, S.S Anne for nostalgia (yes I know Gen 1 pandering but this one I'm kinda okay with) and seeing the Champions again but now in 3D would be awesome, especially since my two favourites are mentioned. Seeing Adler again would also be amazing, as I feel he didn't get enough time to shine. Plus, dat hair. Although, I'd much prefer the PWT. Maybe a boat could take us to Unova instead? (but say Driftveil is closed off or something). PWT would be the best way to bring back old characters, since it doesn't even have to make sense (Why is Giovanni there? And Red finally decided to come out of hiding?) and brings back the most amount of characters.

blue August 15th, 2016 3:14 PM

I can see how Zinnia would fit into S/M assuming they have links to X/Y. We have no idea what the plot of these games are just yet, but it seems like she had some unfinished business from ORAS so I wouldn't be surprised to see her pop up somewhere.

AmetsuCAT August 15th, 2016 3:26 PM

I actually enjoyed Looker's side quest in X/Y. Glad that he also returned in ORAS, even if it was only a minor appearance. Zinnia also had an enjoyable post game quest. Hopefully the two of them make a return, maybe we could learn more about their history as well.


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