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Hoping the elite 4 has more than 4
The last original release was x/y. I was disapointed that the elite 4, only had 4 pokemon each. Im really hoping the new elite 4 posses more competition. Omega ruby and alpha saphire were tough enough, but those were remakes.
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I could see GF implementing a tougher post-game such as rematches AND/OR unlocking a hard mode. This makes the most sense since they want to appeal to younger, newcomers, and/or casual gamers while at the same time keep loyal fans happy. As the audience of pokemon expands with over age and gamer experience I bet GF will adjust their strategy.
So, I don't mind a 4 pokemon elite four, so long as there are rematches and/or hard mode. |
Definitely. They should be tough as hell. That's what the whole point of Elite 4. Beating the Elite 4 in XY is so incredibly underwhelming. Diantha was the only redeeming quality of that League.
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I think one thing to consider is if there would even be a traditional Elite Four. With no gyms, I can imagine they would follow through and try something different instead of having an Elite Four (or at least in the same capacity as we've known them in the past).
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We know that Alola has A Champion. However , A Lack claim that the E4 get replaced by 4 Toutem Pokemon. Which happen to be One of most STUPIDEST thing I heard. |
I hope we see more intimidating trainers (Kahunas and Island Captains) , because the ones that were revealed don't seem to be so impressing so far (Atleast for me ).
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I think the Elite Four, let alone every Gym Leader, should have 6 pokemon MINIMUM.
A Gym is supposed to be challenging. It isn't challenging when you throw out 3 pokemon with the same 4x weakness. |
Just watch as all the Trial Captains and Kahunas end up with teams of only three Pokemon... because we know Game Freak loves to do that.
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We can only hope. I'd be fine with 3 as long as the pokemon weren't pushovers.
Then again, we're going to see a lot of originals in Generation 7, so I look forward to it regardless. |
I'm pretty sure they'll have more Pokemon then 4.
If not, they should all be atleast level 80. |
That is assuming the Elite Four concept returns. I'd be hesitant to think we will be getting the traditional Elite Four format now that Gyms have presumably been replaced by the Island Trials. Maybe upon defeating the Kahunas would grant access to some sort of higher ranking challenge system. Either that or upon defeating all of the island trials for each island, you rematch the Kahunas once more in a consecutive order.
Also, if Hyper Training requires Pokemon of Level 100 to activate, perhaps we can expect a steeper level curve? That could happen or there may facilities or rematches that would allow levelling up to be considerably easier. |
They should go back to having 5 Pokemon during the first battles with the E4, then 6 in the rematches all at higher levels. I'm not sure why they didn't do that in X&Y.
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I understand the target audience is younger but we can't forget that the older Pokemon games were tougher and had the same demographic. Personally, I prefer the Elite Four having five Pokemon as it made it feel like a much harder, more important fight. I definitely don't think four is enough and the Pokemon that they used in X and Y were laughably easy (for the most part). So yeah I hope the Elite Four do use more than four Pokemon this time around and hopefully the games are tougher as a whole.
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And they can always use a toughness scale to choose from like they did with BW2. If they did it once they could do it again. Im currently in a new X walkthrough and I LOVE these games but I think they could have been more challenging. |
BW2 really was the best of both worlds, with normal mode having them use 4 Pokemon and challenge mode gave them 5 (I honestly forgot that the Unova elite 4 had the whole 4 Pokes thing, i thought it was just Kalos' thing). They're not the four toughest trainers in the region for nothing, so why do they only use 4 Pokemon now?
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I think there's a difference between it being challenging, and having to work for badges as you say. I think the E4 (or equivalent) can still be challenging with more Pokémon and maybe slightly higher levels but I don't think people should have to mindlessly grind just to face the E4. The difficulty curve should be smooth enough that when you reach the E4 they pose challenges to you but don't require you to spend hours grinding due to them being too difficult.
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I just want them to have good movesets, balanced teams (I shouldn't be able to run through a fire type member with just a rock type), better AI and use of hold items.
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^ yes agreed. I loved and hated the fact that for example Bruno in GSC could counter Flying-types with his Hitmonchan's elemental punches and with his Onix, and that Aaron used Drapion in DPPt. Even just well-rounded move sets would be good, to make it more difficult to sweep through the E4.
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But for me, I feel like I always forget that fact because the Gyms were still challenging for me despite them having only 3 Pokémon. I always associate the "3 Pokémon per Gym Leader" with Kalos because the entire the game was way too easy so it made that detail all the more obvious and prominent. So for the Elite Four, I have a similar opinion: it would be great if they could go back to having 5 Pokémon each, but if they stick with just 4, I hope their levels, strategies, and general AI is appropriate to still make it a challenge. Having them hold appropriate Items (like how they do in B2W2's Challenge Mode) would be very welcome, even if they only have 4 in their team. |
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As much as people want significant challenge, I feel it's not going to happen. |
When I first saw the title of the thread I understood it wrong and thought it meant "I'm hoping there's more than four members of the Elite Four" XD
E4s having four Pokemon wasn't just an XY thing; it started with BW. If SM have an Elite Four I'm not sure I'd count on them having 5 again. It seems like a permanent change like being able to battle them in any order, with ORAS being an exception because RSE existed before those changes were made (along with Pokemarts being separate from Pokemon Centers). |
It's strange to think that the Unova Elite Four members actually had four Pokemon too. When comparing them to the Kalos E4, it's no contest, the Unova E4 members are waaay tougher imo. Even playing now, I find them to be a real challenge from time to time. The Kalos league on the other hand, they are all really easy to take on. To me this just proves that maybe it's not a matter of how many Pokemon they have or that level they're at, but rather what Pokemon they use with their items and the strategy they use. I hope they can improve on this for Sun and Moon.
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I think the Elite Four will have five Pokemon each. That is if there even is an "Elite Four". It'd have to be if we're able to travel back to Kanto, which to me would indicate they'd have five Pokemon on their roster.
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