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Rambler October 1st, 2016 8:29 PM

My thoughts on the Ultra Beasts (UB discussion thread)
 
I know some of you might find this to be a bit premature giving that, as of this posting, we're expecting some more news regarding S/M in a few days and there is a good chance what I say could be completely wrong. But right now I feel it's high time we a had thread regarding who, or what, these Ultra Beasts are so here is my personal theory about them and where they came from.

First off, based on what I have read on the forum so far, the general consensus is that they are human/pokemon hybrids secretly created by the Aether Foundation in order to change the environment for their needs. Now this is based around another theory that said foundation is actually the villains of the S/M and not Team Skull. Personally, I do not buy into this theory, but that's a discussion for another time. That said, just because I find the foundation itself not evil doesn't mean the people who work there are inherently good.

Let's say there was a scientist who once worked there, let's say said scientist proposed a project involving creating these human/pokemon hybrids to further the foundations goals but was rejected because of how unethical such a project would be. Angered and frustrated, the scientist quietly took their plans and found a place to create his hybrids in secret (presumably in another dimension, given how the beasts appear in the game), and plot their revenge on the foundation for their "short-sightedness." As for who this rogue scientist is, well I don't want to call out any names without proof, but let's just say that it might not be who people think it is. In other words, if this were Bleach, one of the known scientists at the foundation would be Aizen. (And the Ultra Beasts would be the Arrancars, but that's besides the point)

Now the other question is how many of these beasts are there? Assuming these are the hybrids people believe they are, we would have to assume that each beast would be representative of each pokemon typing. If that's the case, then we could them surmise that UB-02A and UB-02B would both represent bug-type pokemon (and possess the ability to fuse together into a singular, more powerful beast, but that is besides the point) and while we don't know that much about UB-01, we might be able to assume that it either represents normal or water-type pokemon based on it's appearance and/or abilities (leaning towards normal-type myself). So with all that, we could be looking at a total of 18 Ultra Beasts created.

TL:DR There's an Aizen working in the Foundation and they made the Ultra Beasts

So there's my thoughts on the Ultra Beasts, feel free to share your thoughts on them below.

Thank you

Afterglow Ampharos October 8th, 2016 10:42 AM

It's worth noting what Ultra Beasts are named after.

Ultraterrestrial:
A superior, non-human entity of natural or supernatural origin that is indigenous to planet Earth.

If this is the case, being humans doesn't make sense for the Ultra Beasts.

janejane6178 October 8th, 2016 11:23 AM

I personally really disklike the UB's concept. It looks like its from an american cartoon or something.

classiccartoonsftw October 8th, 2016 11:36 AM

The concept of those Ultra Beasts reminds me of the viruses from Megaman NT Warrior.

Grassstrand October 11th, 2016 6:34 PM

I'm really just not sure how to feel about them to be honest. I have pretty mixed feelings about the whole

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 11th, 2016 6:43 PM

They look like American comic book characters rather than American Cartoons @janejane

Anyways, I like the concept, well, what we know of it thus far ^^

Iceshadow3317 October 12th, 2016 8:02 PM

Here is something to ask yall. What if the True Dragon is a Ultra Beast?

We know Ultra Beasts are not from Earth and I really don't think they are humans.

The True Dragon, I mean what Zekrom, Reshiram, and Kyreum were before they divided. I think it was confirmed that the True Dragon was not from Earth and it fell from the sky. Unless this was retconned in BW2. I can't remember.

I doubt we will ever be able to own the True Dragon, but wonder if we fight it? The color of them kinda match the Ultra Beasts, and imagining it, I think it will be as powerful as an Ultra Beast.

Bobbylicious October 12th, 2016 8:04 PM

my thoughts on ultra beasts: they are dumb

TL;DR - they dumb

Hikamaru October 14th, 2016 2:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colours (Post 9448698)
You know, I really do wonder whether or not UB-01 and UB-02 are the only two Ultra Beasts we're going to encounter. Kind of interesting that we haven't seen any others yet. Of course, this is assuming that the upcoming trailer isn't going to show another Ultra Beast and whatnot.

I was thinking the same thing as well. I know that UB-01 resembles Lillie while UB-02 Beauty and Absorption's designs seem to be resemble Lusamine and Gladion. That's just people with their theories, but maybe we could get one more Ultra Beast revealed and then hold off on revealing more until after release.

Rambler October 14th, 2016 5:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colours (Post 9448698)
You know, I really do wonder whether or not UB-01 and UB-02 are the only two Ultra Beasts we're going to encounter. Kind of interesting that we haven't seen any others yet. Of course, this is assuming that the upcoming trailer isn't going to show another Ultra Beast and whatnot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9448725)
I was thinking the same thing as well. I know that UB-01 resembles Lillie while UB-02 Beauty and Absorption's designs seem to be resemble Lusamine and Gladion. That's just people with their theories, but maybe we could get one more Ultra Beast revealed and then hold off on revealing more until after release.

I was thinking that too recently, then I thought even if we don't see anymore Ultra Beasts in S/M, GF could be playing a longer game and would be revealing them in later gens

JoyStar October 18th, 2016 5:23 PM

Ultra Beasts
 
I just realized: Pokemon Sun and Moon, which have Ultra Beasts, come out the same day as Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them...
Might as well call that Sun and Moon arc, "Fantastic Ultra Beasts and Where to Find Them":)

Aside from that little tidbit, who's your favorite Ultra Beast so far? Or opinions in general?

Of the three officially shown on Serebii, UB-01 is my favorite.

Iceshadow3317 October 18th, 2016 6:25 PM

It has apparently been confirmed by Nintendo, who told Polygon, UBs are catchable.

I don't want to post in photos, but the one I like the most is probably UB01 and the Red UB02.

Altairis October 18th, 2016 6:29 PM

I BRING GOOD NEWS! Apparently, Ultra Beasts are confirmed to be catchable! A Nintendo rep told someone from the news site Polygon. Woo!

Daily Article!

Pinkie-Dawn October 18th, 2016 6:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altairis (Post 9455556)
I BRING GOOD NEWS! Apparently, Ultra Beasts are confirmed to be catchable! A Nintendo rep told someone from the news site Polygon. Woo!

Daily Article!

Now I can use a Stand as part of my team. :D

Iceshadow3317 October 18th, 2016 6:46 PM

What do you guys think they will be type wise? It is extremely hard for me to tell. But right now I think this.

UB01 - Fairy
UB02: Absorb - Bug/Fighting
UB02: Beaut - Bug/Psychic (Really not sure on type)
Black and White UB with hair like stuff - Electric/Dark
Solid Black UB - Dark/Steel
Black and Yellow UB - Dragon/Bug
Green UB - Steel/Ghost
The UB that looks like the Kalos Elec Badge - Electric/Flying

Ewery1 October 18th, 2016 6:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altairis (Post 9455556)
I BRING GOOD NEWS! Apparently, Ultra Beasts are confirmed to be catchable! A Nintendo rep told someone from the news site Polygon. Woo!

Daily Article!

That's not good news <_<

Florges October 18th, 2016 6:55 PM

So if the theory about them actually being humans is true... does that mean you can catch your husbando/waifu?

SightlessReality October 18th, 2016 6:57 PM

O.O REALLLY!!!
\o/ Rejoice UB lovers. Our majstic beings can be caught.

Bobbylicious October 18th, 2016 7:30 PM

I wouldn't go ahead taking that as the gospel, because a "Nintendo rep" told them.

"Nintendo reps" have done this countless times and often get stuff wrong. Not sure if anyone remembers or cares, but at E3 last year with the "amazing" game known as Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival, Josh Thomas from TBB said that a Nintendo Rep @ E3 told him "the game would be free to purchase on the eShop, you just need to buy an amiibo to play the game" - which didn't turn out to be true. But since he said he got told by a Nintendo rep, every single media outlet went along with it as if it were true, and then when it didn't, it call came back on him.

Even Alison Rapp has since commented it after she was fired from Nintendo and said it was total BS.

https://65.media.tumblr.com/b2f6ac8bb2799020bd88579aa5edf487/tumblr_ocz4w6MMYl1rljgedo1_1280.pnghttps://67.media.tumblr.com/b26d2eaf059fd946156ece6930081343/tumblr_ocz4w6MMYl1rljgedo2_1280.png


I know Polygon is more "reliable" than a YouTuber, and I'm not saying this information is right or wrong (and it looks to be right based on the data mine because why else would UB's have shiny models), but I still wouldn't report something spoken by a "Nintendo rep" as fact.

Desert Stream~ October 18th, 2016 7:33 PM

THANK YOU NINTENDO! I really wanna catch me some UBs

JoyStar October 18th, 2016 7:58 PM

They are catchable, yay! :D. Then technically aren't the Ultra Beasts Pokemon?

Quote:

Originally Posted by colours (Post 9455605)
A funny thought occured to me; What if the UBs were "???"-type.

At least there'd be an actua legitimate use for such a thing.


I'd actually like that idea. :)

Rambler October 18th, 2016 8:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbylicious (Post 9455595)
I wouldn't go ahead taking that as the gospel, because a "Nintendo rep" told them.

"Nintendo reps" have done this countless times and often get stuff wrong. Not sure if anyone remembers or cares, but at E3 last year with the "amazing" game known as Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival, Josh Thomas from TBB said that a Nintendo Rep @ E3 told him "the game would be free to purchase on the eShop, you just need to buy an amiibo to play the game" - which didn't turn out to be true. But since he said he got told by a Nintendo rep, every single media outlet went along with it as if it were true, and then when it didn't, it call came back on him.

Even Alison Rapp has since commented it after she was fired from Nintendo and said it was total BS.

https://65.media.tumblr.com/b2f6ac8bb2799020bd88579aa5edf487/tumblr_ocz4w6MMYl1rljgedo1_1280.pnghttps://67.media.tumblr.com/b26d2eaf059fd946156ece6930081343/tumblr_ocz4w6MMYl1rljgedo2_1280.png


I know Polygon is more "reliable" than a YouTuber, and I'm not saying this information is right or wrong (and it looks to be right based on the data mine because why else would UB's have shiny models), but I still wouldn't report something spoken by a "Nintendo rep" as fact.


In that case, I'm gonna take what Polygon said with a grain of salt until I hear otherwise. If true however, I'm not sure how I'd feel if could catch what are suppose to be threatening Alola, and perhaps the world as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by colours (Post 9455605)
A funny thought occured to me; What if the UBs were "???"-type.

At least there'd be an actual legitimate use for such a thing.

That'd be interesting. Not falling into any known typing, yet (in my mind anyway) representing the different pokemon types. And based on what I've seen in the leaks, that could very well be the case and may confirm my belief that we might be seeing 18 UBs (19 if you count UB-02A and UB-02B as separate UBs) over the next few games, if not in S/M.

Ducolamia October 18th, 2016 8:51 PM

Say...what if we catch UB's with... A UB Ball? Something like the GS Ball or that Snagem Machine In Pokemon XD and Colleseum. I can totally see something like that happening.

Hikamaru October 18th, 2016 8:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoyStar (Post 9455618)
They are catchable, yay! :D. Then technically aren't the Ultra Beasts Pokemon?

I guess so, even if it did make me feel a bit disappointed. But the fun part is we can speculate on any possible types or abilities that they might have.

Bounsweet October 18th, 2016 9:27 PM

I thought that it was explicitly stated elsewhere that the UB are not Pokemon at all. So, I'm kinda... huh?

The "shared secret" with Rockruff and the starter evos was another claim that was lost in translation, but I guess we'll see how it pans out. They do have shiny sprites after all, indicating that they would be catchable.

Sabrewulf238 October 18th, 2016 9:31 PM

I'm not sure if this automatically makes them Pokemon. I think they might go down as a bit of a gray area.

I don't know if I want to use one on my team then. The only one I'm really interested in is UB-01 but I don't like using legendaries on my team....and they seem kinda "legendary".

Iceshadow3317 October 18th, 2016 9:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikari Takahashi (Post 9455722)
I thought that it was explicitly stated elsewhere that the UB are not Pokemon at all. So, I'm kinda... huh?

The "shared secret" with Rockruff and the starter evos was another claim that was lost in translation, but I guess we'll see how it pans out. They do have shiny sprites after all, indicating that they would be catchable.

No. No where did it ever confirm UBs were not pokemon. In fact, there was a hint in a trailer that made it seem like UBs were pokemon. The female leader of Aether Foundation said 'even pokemon from different dimensions' right before UB01 emerged. That alone is a big enough hint that UBs are Pokemon.

The shared secrete with Rockruff was a mistake, but the starters are still supposed to have a secrete that we don't know about, but it just may not be the same as Rockruff.


Why can we have pokemon from space, but not a different dimension? What is the difference between Deoxys and the UBs when, to me, they remind me strongly of one another.

LilyGardy October 18th, 2016 9:50 PM

Ultra Beasts are catchable...Yay I guess.

To me the Ultra Beasts seem like Legendary Pokemon and we have a lot of them as it is. Don't think I will put an Ultra Beast on my team as I don't in general use Legendarys but they might be cool to battle anyway.

Lunar October 19th, 2016 8:23 AM

I guess I always thought Ultra beasts would be catchable but it's cool that they've confirmed it. I probably won't use one on my team seeing as I don't really like the concept of them, but it'll certainly be interesting to see them in-game.

Iceshadow3317 October 19th, 2016 8:24 AM

The Ultra BEasts were intentionally made not to look like pokemon according to an interview with Masuda and the other guy who made the game. GameXplain, who were able to interview them, states that they said that no one in Alola know what the Ultra Beasts are.

They are supposed to be a major role in the story and setting.

Iceshadow3317 October 19th, 2016 8:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colours (Post 9456175)
Honestly, I'd use some of them on a future team if they do turn out to be catchable. I don't see the big deal.

Same. Although I will probably never use them, as I don't tend to use any type of Legendary Pokemon unless it is part of the story and would make sense, similar to Reshiram/Zekrom in BW.

I am not even bothered by their other worldly look. I mean, just look at Deoxys, who to me, is just as strange as the UBs.

Bounsweet October 19th, 2016 9:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IcyIce (Post 9455730)
No. No where did it ever confirm UBs were not pokemon. In fact, there was a hint in a trailer that made it seem like UBs were pokemon. The female leader of Aether Foundation said 'even pokemon from different dimensions' right before UB01 emerged. That alone is a big enough hint that UBs are Pokemon.

The shared secrete with Rockruff was a mistake, but the starters are still supposed to have a secrete that we don't know about, but it just may not be the same as Rockruff.


Why can we have pokemon from space, but not a different dimension? What is the difference between Deoxys and the UBs when, to me, they remind me strongly of one another.

"In the Alola region, rumors are flying about mysterious creatures known as Ultra Beasts. Ultra Beasts possess mighty powers and could pose a threat to humans and Pokémon, so they are feared."

It's kind of directly stated on the SM website that they are a separate entity from Pokémon lol.

Spoiler:
Also the new Poke Ball in the game looks like it's going to be used specifically for the UB, so there's also that. I wonder how we're going to get that Ball in-game, and if it'll be a rare item.


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