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So much for that indeed. This isn't looking good for online, which I believe is very important and so do most people. I don't even know what BIGS is and that's the only third party title we might see online and I don't think it will be that one, I think it's more probable to expect Metroid Prime 3 as the 7th online game. The only good thing I see in this is that there are at least going to be 7 online games this year. So now for some predictions, which 7 1st party game do you think will be online? I posted the list one page back but I'll post it again.
- Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Disaster Day of Crisis - Donkey Kong Barrel Blast - Animal Crossing - Forever Blue - Kirby - Mario Party 8 - Mario Strikers Charged - Metroid Prime 3: Corruption - Project H.A.M.M.E.R. - Super Mario Galaxy - Totsugeki Famicom Wars W - Wii Health Pack - Wii Music |
Strikers Charged and Batallion Wars II are confirmed to have online, as well as SSBB. I'm sure Animal Crossing will as well.
http://www.gamespot.com/wii/adventure/legendofzeldaootn64/review.html Gerstmann's at it again... *cough* >> |
Ah, and I forgot that Forever Blue has also been confirmed to have online play.
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Whew, I don't really care all THAT much if 3rd party titles don't get an online title this year, as long as I get any online games this year at all, i'm happy. ^^
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Wasn't it confirmed that Animal Crossing would make use of the message baord at least? I'm sure they'd implement online (in the non-message board sense). Wild World had it. It would be weird if the next version had less features.
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All this online stuff with Nintendo has gotten to a point where I don't care.... really. When Robo told me today about the no online for third-party all I said was "heh". I would loveeeeee to have some good online shooter for the Wii, or have something like WiiPlay online. But it's not going to happen. Nintendo is still far too afraid to set foot in the online gaming world. They know Microsoft rules it and when they do have their online stuff most people will compare Wii online to XBox Live. So Nintendo is just going to sit in the corner and hope people won't notice it.
They are going to have their gems online, games like SSBB, Animal Crossing, Pokemon etc. But you won't see an online shooter (discounting Metroid, I know lots and lots of people want MP3:C online. But I think if it goes online they'll lack on the single player and that's what makes the games good) on the Wii for a very very long time. This is what I'm talking about when I said Nintendo is cutting the third-party short. |
There's more to it then being afraid of Microsoft. Nintendo's online history goes back to the NES days. Every attempt they made has failed. I can understand the reluctance.
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I can't understand that really, DS online wasn't a failure even with friend codes and the times are different now. I could argue that there's never been a better time to start online than now. The Gamecube online failed because nobody really heard about it aside from the more hardcore crowd. Sony basically copied Microsoft's online structure except for a little different interface. Microsoft has the best online out there and even though they charge for their service the people get what they pay for. Whatever they are scared of they need to put it aside because the gamers want online, Nintendo has always been about the consumer, let's hope they deliver.
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With the exception of the DS (which, I think went well) and the GCN (which went down due to Nintendo's piracy fears. Curse you PSO!), the rest of Nintendo's internet dealings were downloadable game services. Well, for the most part. They had a few actual internet dealies going on, but they were small. Nintendo only now got the downloadingness right with the VC.
I want online too, but I can somewhat understand their reluctance. They want the best possible time. You see any internet provider advertisement and it's about why you should get it over dialup. Dialup. People are still on dialup. If I recall (this was a few years back), only around 20% actually used the original Xbox Live's online service. |
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I'd imagine XBL's numbers are a lot higher now. Microsoft really nailed the online stuff with the 360. To be fair, Nintendo just isn't in the same position to make the decisions MS has to make XBL great. XBL is a lot of fun, but also very very profane and hateful. You really shouldn't be on it at all unless you're at least eighteen, and probably male. I don't think dial-up is really a factor anymore. Some have it, but those who do probably aren't the type who would own a video game console. So yeah. As I've said before, this console cycle is so radically different from the last one, it's fun to watch. Even if that's often from afar. XD; |
I've played very little of Sonic and the Secret Ringsso far, but I've got to say...this is the lamest thing I hae ever seen "I am the genie of the ring and in no way similar to the genie from the story of Aladdin".
I would love for Nintendo to embrace online gaming and I'm surethat they will. Third parties being denied theability to implement seems odd to me, but it's probably only temporary. Nintendo isn't stupid. They listen to their fans (Abby in particular should know who I'm referencing with that comment). They now that we are unapy with how the WFC is being hadled on the DS and the Wii. I suspect that they are making some changes. Whatever it is, hardcore players will still be disgruntled. Nintendo is not Microsoft. Online is major and they want the Wii and DS to apeal to all. Nintendo's going to want to make it friendly to people who are 18+ or male. I like the DS's system. Not everything is code based. You can race at random in Mario Kart. I would like hubs and I would like the ability to communicate if desired. The WiiShop connects to our MyNintendo accounts. They can check our age, deny communication privleges based on age or hae some kind of section for parental approval. Even buy the ability using Wii Points. |
Nintendo have shown off the multiplayer of phantom hourglass at GDC.
http://www.play-nintendo.com/playnintendo/content.php?content_id=742 also some Super paper mario stuff. |
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Since Andy is off hitting the books (or most likely playing GRAW2), I'm going to have to post. XD
The Friend Code system might be ok for DS games (I'm ok with adding friends that way). But if Nintendo makes it where you have to add a new FC for each and every game (like the DS) then you'll be seeing some pissed off people. I know it'll be sometime before we really know if it'll use the Wii's code or go the DS way and have to put in a code for each game (Can't use Elebits because it's not truely online, and can't use PBR because you have a handheld game tied into it). But I do hope it's only one code per system. And speaking of pissed... http://wii.ign.com/articles/771/771051p1.html I don't think that guy was on his meds when he said that. Or, he might have over did it on the drugs. I'm not going to make some long rant about how he's brain dead or whatever. All I'm going to say is, his boss (Will Wright) loves the Wii, and is making a game for the Wii. http://gonintendo.com/?p=14287 Shiggy smiling a little more today. http://gonintendo.com/?p=14304 http://gonintendo.com/?p=14299 And some new Super Mario Galaxy screens as well as a new trailer. |
I agree that Nintendo is taking this FC thing a little too far. It is ok for some games on the DS, but for D/P, that's just taking it a peg down. I think the reason Nintendo is taking baby steps into the online world is because of the way they are. They are always opting for innovation over graphics,and storyline over replay. Nintendo has limited them selfs in the sense that they are limiting the graphical capabilities of the wii for a small size. Would you agree not that, PBR would look great with better 3d capabilities, and with the better graphics comes things like faster frame rate, and whatnot. They are just trying to perfect one way, before trying new ones, but i like the PSP a little mainly because of it's multimedia functions, and better 3d capabilities. Figuratively speaking if they took a step towards the shore line, they will find more water.
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Wow, I made a lot of typos in that last comment.
So, anyone been following the Nintendo GDC keynotes? I found Kondo's to be quite interesting. I knew that OoT's Hyrule Field theme was dynamic (meaning it would change depending on where you were), but I didn't know that there were so many different combinations. I noticed them during OoT, I just have figured out what goes to what yet. Koji makes a good argument though. Do we want music that sounds pretty or music that's easy to manipulate. I don't want orchestral stuff if it won't be dynamic. I made a custom MP3 of Dire, Dire Docks from Super Mario 64 to emphasis the dynamic transitions. It's wonderful. Absolitude, I'm just against all GCN and Wii Pokemon titles until they up the graphics. For some reason, Nintendo thinks that we won't notice that they're just reusing the N64 Stadium models. @@ |
Please don't tell me they're reusing the N64 models for the Wii game. Please. o_o Even if you have to lie, don't tell me that. ._.;
As for the music, that's true...but I still feel like orchestral music has its place in cutscenes and other areas to make the experience much more immersive and almost movie-like. Would dynamic music be helpful there at all? Remember I know nothing about audio. XD; |
For the places in TP that didn't feature dynamic MIDIs, I would've preferred orchestral - but it would still have to loop properly. Kondo wanted it, but ran out of time. Hopefully the true Wii Zelda will fetaure given more disc space.
It's true. Well...the Diamond and Pearl Pokemon look good (some), and a few of the more popular ones (Pikachu), but the rest are pulled out of Stadium and Stadium 2 (and Colosseum which for some reason had Stadium models for the new Pokemon O_o) based on the videos I've seen. |
I wouldn't care if they reused the N64 models if the games were actually good. But every console Pokemon game after Stadium 2 has sucked. >>
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The PSP is nice, but mine collects dust. I don't care to watch movies on it (I got a laptop), the only time I listen to music on it is when I don't feel like turning my laptop on (and since it's always on the PSP doesn't get much use). What good is having an MP3 player, a video player, a web browser and all that if the system doesn't have any good games. And the same thing goes with the Wii and PS3. Why is the Wii outselling the PS3? It's not because of the price because Sony is shooting for the older group of people (the ones with big HDTVs, and got the money to blow on a $600 system). The games are the reason why the Wii has almost (or maybe even over) 4.5 Million sells, and the PS3 sits there with a little over 1.5 Million (maybe closer to 2 Mil). If you don't got good games to back the system the graphics and multimedia functions won't be enough to sell a game system. I agree with Robo. I would take N64 graphics as long as we have a good game like Stadium/2. I love how both of them games were. Free Battle, contests, an announcer, and sooooooooo much more. Both the GC games weren't all that good (I still haven't picked up XD, and chances are I might never), if they just took a page from the Stadium book then that would be great. Forget the RPs and the dumbed down games like PBR (I heard it didn't turn out so well), just go back to how Stadium 1 and 2 were. |
Yeah, that too. But...I think (and I hate to say it) but the graphics would represent that. I mean, if they're just taking models from two generations ago than that's a representation of just how much effort Genius Sonority is putting into their games.
I love the two Stadiums. Those were great games. As long as the game is great I wouldn't mind if the graphics aren't as good as they could be. But...just reusing models from two generations ago? That's just lazy. I just looked up some YouTube videos. Essentially, the Diamond and Pearl people look good. Popular Pokemon from the other generations have been redone, but the others are old models. |
Yeah, I think Triffy basically summarized it. Graphics don't have to be amazing, but reusing such old models really reflects poorly on their attitude towards the games. Clearly they have no interest in making a good game: They only want to suck some money from the Pokemon brand. Production values really make good games better. If a game is good, the lack of graphics and little touches don't change that, but the production values do add a lot to games.
Triffy, have you played Sonic any more at all? |
I played it a bit today. Speaking about production [email protected]@ Adventure 2 Battle was wonderful! Why do I have long loading times, bland menus, cheap cinematics, and a cheesy story?
I want to like this game, really I do. I'm still in the first world. Once you beat the actual level, the rest of that world is just sections of that initial level but with a task. In the case where I'm stuck it's...don't break the pots. Hard to do when you're basically stuck on invisible rails. |
The subject of online won't die! Nor should it, but at least this time it's good news. At least Nintendo is showing they care somewhat and getting some help. Let's hope it all works out.
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Well...Nintendo used GameSpy for the DS. So, how is this any different? o.o
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It's not supposed to be news because they're the ones providing the middleware, it's news because of the features. So....it's different because of the features that were listed, "friend rosters, advanced matchmaking capabilities and comprehensive rankings data". Don't know if they will actually deliver but it sounds like good news from them. Like I said, this isn't really news in itself at all but the features they listed gives us some hope and that's the actual "good news".
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I know this is off subject, but it has something to do with a topic that was on before I was on absence on a cruise. Alright, I was on this cruise and of course there were other people. Well, I was talking to this one kid (maybe 11-14, she looked young). And she was ranting about how the PS3 is the perfect system and all the complaints are crap. And she had this complicated system worked out about how Nintendo was secretly undermining Sony, and was purposely telling people to mess it up. She mentioned that Sony ORIGINALLY had the "wii-mote" idea, but Nintendo had stolen it. So I kinda played along and asked her how she came up with that, she told me that a person working at Arby's had read this article in EGM that told it all. So when we were at the airport in a few days I bought the March issue of EGM. The closest thing I could find to anything related to that was the company president saying (copied directly from that issue) "People keep waiting for us to slip up, and we haven't, so people try to create stories that aren't there." It's amazing what some people will miss interpret these days, I wonder how many other people think the same thing.
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Since we were talking about Wii online...
http://gonintendo.com/?p=14563 Now isn't that lovely? Robo just told me about it and I got to say I'm not happy one bit... I was hoping for one code per system (why even have the main code for the Wii?). I hope all of you like adding new codes for every online Wii game you get. -_-;; http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2007/03/13/get-your-mii-on-your-mac/ Abby, you'll like that. XD Prince Gryph: If only I could have had a talk with her. The topic of Nintendo vs Sony (or even Microsoft) is my back yard. XD If I remember right (don't quote me 100% on this because it has been sometime), Sony had some sort of idea for the EyeToy. It's a patent on a pointer for the EyeToy. If that's taking Sony's idea then sure, Nintendo really needs to go around looking at Sony's patent ideas for new things for a Nintendo system. I would have liked to ask her where did Sony get the idea for an analog stick, or a rumble pack, or a D-Pad, shoulder buttons, the whole idea of a controller, and so on. Where did Sony get the idea of the Sixaxis, the EyeToy, wireless controllers, hell even Sony getting in the gaming market is due to Nintendo (even if it was Nintendo screwing Sony over). That girl wouldn't have her lovely PS3 if it weren't for Nintendo. And the PS3 isn't a perfect system. Poor backwards compatibility, Blu-Ray probs, and no good games for the system, etc. She's just a fanboy (or in this case fangirl), blinded by a brand name. If the roles were switched around and the Wii was the PS3 and the PS3 the Wii then she'd be bashing the Wii left and right. |
Yes, I do like that. XD; When I get wifi that should be very cool indeed. Kind of weird that didn't come to the PC first though; esoteric stuff like this is almost always Windows' domain. Huh. Very cool.
As for the Friend Codes thing—that article really doesn't say that there will be separate Friend Codes for each game. It just says that there's a separate roster. That, in likelihood, does mean a separate code for each game, but it could mean that your lists just aren't shared. So you'd have the same code, but you'd have to add all of your friends' codes to each game you played. |
Did anybody believe the April Fools in EGM?
Mushroom Kingdom Hearts XD |
Based on the stupid name alone, no. Didn't believe the Mushroom Kingdom Hearts rumour.
Abby, that Mii thing has been on Windows for a while. I've downloaded a few, but my computer lacks a BlueTooth driver. There's VB based Mii editors too. Anyway, so...we still have friend codes. Nintendo better have some sort of central hub. They must know that people want it when there's countless Nintendo WFC hubs on the internet already. Wishful thinking on my part, but I want a ping system. Instead of having to add a friend code just send an impersonal message to someone on the hub, the agree, and then your codes are traded automatically. I wouldn't mind that. It'd be great for parental controls too, because their can be several different parameters to block you from not befriending someone your own age (if you turn on parental controls), and so on. But...no chance of that happening. @@ EDIT: It may be old news considering the games have been out in Japan for a while now, but... We have confirmation regarding voice support in Diamond and Pearl WFC battles. It's a yes! But, only if you have their friend code. Use either the DS' mic or buy the new headset. |
Guys, i have some really bad news. I have found two articles stating that there is a PSP2 coming out. I think they are very trust worthy even for a random site i saw on google. The sites explain that a sony executive said that they are making a psp2, and it may be coming out this year. I know we have a huge lead over them, but if this in fact is a mini psp3. We may need to have an intervention at Nintendo of America's headquarters. Plus there are rumors about an Xbox portable. I don't have any good sources, but you can google up for some images.
Articles: VG Charts Game Tab *PS: I know that Game Tab has the old PSP image, but if you google PSP2, and Xbox portable then you'll find it. And for some news about Nintendo. I'm getting New super Mario bros. tomorrow, does anyone have any good tips, and such? |
Mmm, the articles are simply implying the possibility of slimline PSPs. Wouldn't surprise me considering Sony did it for the PS1 and PS2. It was a huge success for the DS when the DS Lite was released, maybe Sony is hoping for some of that success.
XD But... Given Sony's "original" slimline naming conventions. PS1 became PSone, PS2 became PStwo; that would mean the PSP would become the PSpee. Why would you want to buy something with a name like that? :p |
errr, then why would you want to buy a Wii then? XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD, but seriously, a PSP2? Ugh, Sony is gonna have a rough and long road ahead of them, and if you say it's a mini Ps3, it'll go out like a bomb.
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That's hilarious. But none has said anything about New Super Mario bros. I want some advise. Tips, good lucks. Something. Hehe wii, PSpee. xDDD
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Um...it's easy.
If you've played SMB3 or SMW, you'll be disappointed. I guess just collect everything. The experience will be a lot more rewarding if you unlock all the levels. |
Wow you really did take the "everything" literally. I haven't played the other games but, it is on a lot of high lists so i guess i should get it. Then the Yoshi game, then SM64ds. Hopefully by then i would have collected a good library, and it will be D/P time.
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Yes, all three of those are good choices. New SMB is good, just not as good as it's predecessors.
Get Yoshi's Island DS, not Yoshi Touch N' Go. |
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Triffy, this is something you need... http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2007/03/15/pretty-much-the-best-wii-case-mod-ever/ http://gonintendo.com/?p=14693 A little something on Pokemon D/P. http://www.gamedaily.com/canvases/gd/_a/feature-who-needs-japan/20070315132609990001 I've only glanced at that a little. But I think it's worth posting here. |
Yep, I would love to have that case mod. If even just the stand.
...my birthday's in June for those interested. XD |
My birthday is in June too. And I'd like a pink case mod, please ♥
Didn't Sony give up on the UMD movies? I'm pretty sure that they announced their plans to offer downloadable movies instead. o.o; So I doubt a PSP2 would be reliant on the UMD, at least in the media sense. |
What do you guys make of the external hard drive rumour? Apparently Square asked for it?
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I haven't heard of it. oo; Where's it coming from, and what's the basis of the rumor? That they'll be a hard drive for caching? Or for online games?
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I dunno the basis for the rumour other than supposedly the third parties have been pressuring Nintendo for one. Reasons unknown. It's been in a few Nintendo news sites. So...
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I got SSX blur on friday, I'm already stuck, not due to my own fault, but the controls (or both) Slaloming is hard with the nunchuck ¬¬
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I personally think that Nintendo should do a massive recall on all wii's. The small size is awesome, but i would rather have a bigger wii, than have bad graphics. I know it's not all about graphics, and it's always about gameplay, but i just think that it would be better if they had the same graphics,as the other guys. I know games like Pokemon won't need ps3 graphics. (Although i would love it) But they at least should try, and spread out into other areas. As for games, i won't be getting any soon. 1) Because i'm saving. and 2)All the stores around me don't have the ones i want, and i don't want to go to gamestop because they have outrageous taxes if your not a member. >.<
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...do I really even want to reply to this?
First off, the reason the Wii doesn't have PS3 graphics isn't because of the size. It's because of the cost. Nintendo wanted the Wii to be inexpensive and no more than $250. If they added in PS3 or 360-level graphics, you'd probably pay $400-500 for the system, plus whatever the motion sensing technology costs. For $250, the Wii is a good buy. Next, someone who buys a Wii knows the graphics aren't going to be HD/PS3/360 level. If they want HD graphics, then they can get a 360 or PS3. If you buy a Wii expecting that level of graphics, you're just an uneducated moron. Nintendo's not going to do a "massive recall" just because some idiots don't realize the graphics aren't as good as the other two consoles. Third, Gamestop doesn't charge outrageous taxes if you're not a member. You don't even have to be a member to do anything there. All being a member does is get you more trade-in credit and a magazine. I don't know what gives you the idea that they charge more for normal customers. Finally, if you're "not getting any games soon", then stop griping and whining. It sounds to me like you're just trying to nitpick and make baseless claims when you don't even know what you're talking about. Get your facts straight before posting in here next time. EDIT: Looks like you haven't even joined the NFC. You're supposed to join these groups before posting in these threads. |
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The creator of Final Fantasy doesn't see a problem with the Wii's graphics. FINAL FANTASY. Essentially, Eye Candy: The Video Game. He figures that unless you're using an HD hookup, there isn't a noticeable difference between the Wii and 360.
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360 fans are usually more into shooters and crap and would see KH as "kiddy". I think KH actually would be best on a Nintendo console, since it has that "everyone" appeal rather than a "mature" appeal, and it really doesn't require "OMGHD" graphics.
And as far as the graphics go, personally I've yet to see a Wii game look as good as even some PS2 games (FFXII and GoW2 specifically). And I'm not talking about FMVs in XII, the in-game graphics put pretty much everything on the Wii to shame, besides Twilight Princess and Sonic. And I think a lot of it is lazy developers. Apparently a lot of people feel Sonic is the best-looking Wii game and it looks better than most Xbox games though, so maybe that's a step in the right direction. |
The GCN could handle more advanced graphics than the PS2, but no one took advantage of it. So, yeah - developers are lazy.
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I think there's too much Japanese pride getting in the way of the transition to the 360. While it's encouraging to hear what he said, there's always been a strong since of honor amongst Japanese companies that would be betrayed by developing for an American-made console. That sounds ridiculous, but it's a reality in Japan.
KH isn't exactly "everyone" appeal. It certainly can appeal to everyone through its Disney roots, but a lot of its success is owed to the anime group which owns a PS2 solely for RPGs. Need proof? Ask any female fan of KH. XD; It's part of what makes the PS2 such a choice platform for RPGs. I do agree that the 360 is much more for the stereotypical adult male, though. It wouldn't fit well with the 360 even if it could be on it. |
I don't want it on the 360. I'm just saying.
I'd love for it to be on the Wii (and special Wii versions of KH I and II final mixes, please Sqaure?) I know the PS2 has the fanbase. Look at FF's popularity in Japan vs Zelda. FF wins without question. I would hope that fanbase switches to the Wii though, as well as the developers. It could happen. Developers just aren't liking the PS3; too costly and lots of wasted disc space if you don't make full sue of the capabilities (which would leave them virtually bankrupt XD). Square has said KH may leave Sony. It could go multi-platform, or to the Wii. Who knows. To advance on what Abby said though with the whole pride thing. That could be why Square's keeping FF on the PS3. They left Nintendo. They may be head over heels in supporting their handhelds, but it would just be shameful if they went back over. Showing that they messed up in the long run. |
That's something that I find to be a mystery—what is the cost of the Blu-ray discs, and how are the games not much more expensive as a result? Does it come from Sony? From the publisher? And just how much does it cost to make the discs en masse?
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Japan does have this pride thing going on with the 360 (as well as the XBox). It's one of the big 3 and it isn't from Japan. But at the same time, I think MS sort of rubbed them wrong. The market over there is more different then it is over here. I know Japan is the gaming big guy in the world. But I do think NA is more open to gaming then that of Japan. We at least will give the Wii or PS3 a chance even if it's from Japan. And many of us do think the consoles from Japan are better.
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http://www.play-nintendo.com/playnintendo/content.php?content_id=786
Woah. I don't see sony or microsoft pulling that off |
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XP Well that is pretty nice of them. Or I could be cynical and just say that it's a chance to advertise XD Still, it's nice of them none the less. And I'm pretty sure Bill Gates has his own charity anyway ... XD |
http://gonintendo.com/?p=14962
I have some choice words after reading this, but they're not appropriate for this forum. Seriously, I love you Nintendo...why the hell do you keep doing this to me? Friend codes suck, and it seems like you're doing your best to alienate the "hardcore" gamers who want a decent online service. |
...You beat me. I was going to post that but everything got slow on me. So, I'll post this.
What do you we have the Wii system code for then? I'm confused. I'm assuming that if I've given you a Mii or added you to my contact list, chances are I'm going to want to play games with you too. Can't use the same code because...? O_o |
I'll just C/P what I said on GameSpot.
"I've sort of thought this is how it was going to be for sometime now. So I've already got past the strange of blowing up when hearing about this stuff. It's going to be friend codes just like the DS, sure I'm not happy about it. But at least I don't run off and say things like "I'm not going to buy a Wii because of this.". I'm going to play online games one way or another. Friend codes for each game or a single friend code for each Wii, in the end I will be playing online." Sure it is a pain to add a new FC for each and every online game. And it is stupid of Nintendo to do something like this (like Triffy said, what's the point of the main list?). But I've already accepted the fact that we are going to use FCs. I'm used to it by now, all I want now is just to play online. |
Ah, GameSpot. I registered there because I wanted to put my game collections up like you and Mork, but I can't figure anything out. XD I see headings that should logically be links, but they aren't. O_o
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And I don't see why people are making such a big deal. For crying out loud, so you have to put in a few more numbers. So what? That doesn't take away from the overall online experience, it just means there's an extra step involved.
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Yes but the whole point of humans pushing forward is for easier living. I honestly don't mind but it would be easier for those of us who would like to sneak in a few minutes of (insert wifi wii title here) before we go off to school. I think it's good that Nintendo is helping those poor sick kids, plus they figured it would strike them gold in mothers hearts. Which of these headsets do you like better? Official Nintendo made one ( comes only in white for now) Comes out the day after d/p and makes everything clearer. Or This one by Turtle beach. It is slightly bigger, and about $5 more but it has the other part of the headset. And Samurai X don't be afraid of the PSP2, sony has no chance. We are triumphant, and we very well may be for a long time to come.
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There's a significant difference between WFC and XBL, even beyond the convenience of punching in Friend Codes.
XBL was designed with the idea of always being connected, even when you aren't playing online. You can check your friends list—which is universal, of course—and find out what all of your friends are doing at any given moment. Be that playing an online game, playing an offline game, or watching a DVD. You can invite anyone who's online to come join you for a game, even if they're not playing the same game. (They'll change discs to accept the invite, of course) You can also check your friends' progress in their games. That's mostly trivial, but one more unique advantage to the XBL approach. One other cool feature is the notion of one-on-one chat—you can chat with a friend one-on-one, no matter which games either of you are playing. This means that you could both play offline games while still chatting. Or different online games. Or whatever. Even beyond the concept of friends, XBL has advantages. With Friend Codes, you have to specifically add anyone you wish to play with. That works fine for your existing friends, just with more work, as David said. The advantage XBL has is matchmaking. Say that, In Super Smash Brothers: Brawl, you just wanted to spend an evening playing online. With the Wii, you'd have to go on MSN and hunt down specific friends to play a match with. They may not be online, or may only want to play a few matches. But with matchmaking, you can play against random groups of people for as long as you'd like. While I'm looking forward to playing with everyone in Brawl, I'd love to be able to practice with random people when no one else is online. You can make new friends that way, too. Ultimately, WFC is pretty disappointing from a multiplayer perspective. It's functional, but just barely. XBL is so much more robust and convenient. Now don't get me wrong—I don't like Microsoft or the 360 by a long shot. In fact, one of the disadvantages of online gaming is that it attracts an adult group, so you have to be willing to tolerate a lot to play. The only reason I'm willing to draw comparison is that I want WFC to be better. I think we all hoped that the online competition from last generation would motivate Nintendo to make a great online service. Now I guess we have to hope that the Wii's successor can implement better online, while still protecting that family-friendly image. I'd imagine that's really hard to do. |
Yea it's like trying to skin a cat without taking off any hairs. What's XBL? I've never heard of that game. Also for those of you who think i am a Microsoft fan, think again. I'd much rather eat my own puke. I hate them mainly for IE, but that's off topic. I have something interesting...wait let me see if i can pull it out. Ok here it, wait no. THEY are: Control your comp with your ds Some cool looking proof AND Third party motion sensory for the ds. Now you can touch, AND play. Has video proof of that concept. As i've said before the ds can do a lot, but i'm ok with FC. But for wii, i hate it because...it's a wii!
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XBL is an acronym for the Xbox and Xbox 360 online service, Xbox Live. I should have made that distinction. Could have sworn I typed it out at least once. xD;
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Hey do you guys think that someone will eventually be able to hack wifi? And if so will ndo be able to patch it quick enough? The ds has a lot of home made stuff coming out, will there soon be bad people taking advantage of it's versatility? I don't want to do any more scaring, but it's just scary.
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Not all WFC games are friend code based though. Mario Kart and Metroid allow for random battles. Those players then end up on your rival list. You just can't choose to play them freely. @@
Wii has parental controls. Nintendo should base the amount of security for the WFC based on that. It's sad and is going to have to be one of the things Nintendo learns from. Hopefully, next generation - which is a long ways away. |
If any of you are disappointed about the way Nintendo has gave us online, don't worry. They can extend the online capabilities whenever they want. Twilight Princess for the Gamecube is a prime example. They extended this console's power, and they have no reason not to do the exact same thing for the Wii. I mean, let's just say Brawl has a different mode of combat available for online play, and you can make and view a profile. Don't expect this, but Nintendo can do just that.
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You guys are so not full time gamers.... Is no one here going Wii60/PSWii or even PSWii60 like myself? Losers. *runs* XD
My dealings with the Wii onlineness isn't the FCs. I've gotten past that stage. But it's the way the online works. As Abby said, for me to battle some friends on SSBB I got go get on MSN, IM a bunch of friends, ask if they're doing something, then ask to play SSBB and so on. XBL you can see what the person is doing right now. If the Wii was like XBL I could pop on, see Abby, Robo, and David on and see what they're doing. Send them a message (only if the darn thing wouldn't take an hour to get there) asking if they wanted to battle and set up a match. And if online battles work like MKDS (it's my only Wi-Fi game so I don't know how others will work) then it's also going to suck. Search for random friends, sometimes they drop off and when you want to battle all 3 you only battle 2 and so on. I would like it where I say "Ok, I'm the one that started this match so I'm the leader, I pick Abby, Robo, and David for this battle. Dawson, and Triffy will have to sit this one out.". That would be great and fix the whole randomness of friend coded battles. Nintendo should have taken a page out of the MS handbook on online gaming. But noooo, they had to go their own way that likely will end up bad (I'm not going to say it's bad to a point where I won't play online. I'm saying it won't be user friendly like XBL is). |
Why am I being left out? Afraid of getting your butt kicked? XD Abby doesn't have Wifi, she can't play. What gives? T__T;
I'm hoping the SSBB will feature a random feature in addition to friend codes, just like Mario Kart DS or Metroid. The main issue I see is, as you said, having to go to MSN or something like that in order to get your friend to come online. Maybe we could just send a message via the Wii? Oh, but then the Wii won't glow until you turn it off. @@ I hope Nintendo offers a firmware update for that by then. |
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On topic: How does firmware work? When i wikid it i only got info on stuff like firm ware for the psp. Is it an actual update to your systems code? If it is then the wifi problem might be fixed, unless wifi is deeply integrated within the system...And i can't believe you guys are actually saying that you like Microsoft. Shame. Just a shame. |
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I really hope Brawl has a random feature too. I want to be able to sit down on a Friday night and play all night long against other people. One other thing from XBL I'd like to have is the notion of parties. You can have groups of people—say you and me—going from random game to random game. That way we'd always be playing together, but with other people as well. But again. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying I like MS. I'm just saying they have something awesome with XBL. In fact, the 360 is the only place where they're really enjoying success based on the merits of their product. Firmware can expand the capabilities of a device, yes, but it has limits. It wouldn't be able to change the system they're using for WFC. |
I meant a firmware update for the blue light. So it turns on before you reset the console. o.o
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Oh, right. Was he referring to your post? xD; That'd certainly be fixable, I'm sure. There's no in-game way to access the messages, though.
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No, but if it flashes while you play a game (which it can. There are fan mods which allow the light to pulsate to the in-game audio) then you can simply use the home button to check.
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Hmmmm.... I have 5 friends in my Wii friend list, I play my Wii every single moment I can, and I get messages all the time, but when I do get a message in-game, it doesn't flash blue. I can tell if it's blue while I'm playing because of peripheral vision. It just never happens.
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Just for an update, we've got a scan from a Portuguese magazine with some new screens and details on the latest NiGHTS: NiGHTS Into Dreams. The interview was in Portuguese but that was no problem, and managed to at least make it understandable to people who speak the English language. XD
http://www.play-nintendo.com/playnintendo/content.php?content_id=809 What are your thoughts? I just don't have any idea as to what the online mode could be. :x |
That was a pretty good deal, and now I respect that producer because he thought of just about everything: how we (Wii) play, having all the responsibilities of being a programmer, but I still don't get it. What is NIGHTS? Is it a SEGA platformer, or something else?
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You guys will not believe this but Nintendo and Sega has confirmed that for the 1st, they're going to make a crossover game with Mario and Sonic based on the 2008 Olympics!!
http://www.play-nintendo.com/playnintendo/content.php?content_id=804 |
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Sega has a website up. NOA released a press release. NOE made a comment. Miyamoto is confirmed to be working on it.
This is either real or an intricate April Fools prank. |
Shenlong, I've seen those before, and I'm not falling for it again.
Everyone (the whole school) said that there was going to be a Mushroom Kingdom Hearts. I was the only one who said no. And let me answer some of Triforce's comments. Sega can close the website anytime. One person in the NOA/NOE could be a prankstar and might have convinced them. Miyamoto has a sense of humor. You can tell by his smile. The school I mentioned read it from several magazines and websites. So like Triforce said, I believe it's an intricate April Fool's joke. We're not fools. |
I highly doubt Nintendo would go to the trouble of coordinating with Sega on all this, releasing a press release, doing interviews, and creating all the hype for the game if it's just an April Fools joke. Mushroom Kingdom Hearts was simply a one-page advertisement in EGM magazine - they do one EVERY YEAR for April Fools. This is different.
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Well, I still won't believe it. If I guessed no but it wasn't a joke, it's okay. But if I say that it was true and it was a joke, then I would be mocked because people say I'm the smartest kid in the class (trust me I'm not). I hate being mocked.
Nintendo can do anything they want to successfully, or at least try to. Also, the Website was just a picture. Hey, everyone, look at me! I believe that this is real because I'm looking at a cool pic. No, that's not me. |
Yeah...I think this game is real. Believe what you will though. Also, if Sonic isn't in Brawl after this I would be surprised. If it is a joke then they got me, oh well.
That whole futuristic Zelda thing though, that's an April Fool's joke. |
I think the game is real. I just wish it wasn't. T_T;
Futuristic Zelda? O_o |
^http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/31/april-fools-alert-1-wii-tvs-future-zelda/
Wii.TV just jumbled up a whole load of Star Wars and Final Fantasy artwork and stills, calling it a "Future Zelda". They didn't even bother coming up with a title, and personally even if this was true, I'd never buy it. Zelda + Future = Ruining the franchise as a whole. |
Yeah, I found it shortly after my comment. XD
Zelda needs something fresh and new. It needs to reinvent itself. The original way is fine for all the 2D games and the OoT way was good for N64-GCN. But we're on DS and Wii now. It needs to be fresh, new, and original. But...the future is not the right way to go. XD I liked how on one of those concept art pieces there was a billboard for Coca-Cola. Lol |
^Rofl, exactly. We do need something fresh and new, but not too far off... XD
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I dunno, that might be pretty cool. At this point, I think Zelda needs to overcompensate to get away from the OoT mold. I'd play it. XD;
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^Phantom Hourglass, much? Until now it's looking like a pretty solid yet fun game, and not too close from the OoT formula as far as I can tell, especially considering multiplayer.
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Excuuuuuuuuse me princess!
You'd play a game with a motorcycle called Epona? ... Shiggy's a liability. There a conflict of interest between him and Eiji. One cares about the story, one doesn't. Eiji's baby is MM. That game is awesome. If they held it off until the GCN that would beat OoT in most people's eyes. I'd rather have many games like MM, than many games like OoT. Eiji wants to go the extra mile, but Shiggy has to go and do his upend the tea table thing. @@ It's Nintendo though. And Zelda is the legendary franchise. So, any changes would be slow coming. But, please, please, please. Can I have another town other than Kakariko to visit? The Hidden Village doesn't count. One person and it's Kakariko! You gave me two! WTF? T_T; But no futureness. I don't want a cyber-punk Zelda. They can make it dark. It can look like a Tim Burton film (and it may. XD The staff loves Nightmare. Just look at the official art for MM. Very Burton-esque and cool looking), but no guns. And no heavy RPGness. It is an adventure puzzle game, and I want it to stay like that. Just, evolve please. T_T; |
Yeah, I don't actually think it'd be good. XD; Oh, did you guys see this?
I want one ♥ |
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