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Mareep123 January 7th, 2017 3:08 PM

Does size matter?
 
Hi

So I've been wondering does the weight of the Pokemon matter in Pokemon Go...or will it? If it was irrelevant why would it be included in the appraisal of Pokemon?

Cherrim January 8th, 2017 4:17 AM

Hmm, it might matter if they implement moves like Grass Knot.

Also, there's a few badges based on relative size--like the ones for Rattata and Magikarp.

VisualJae January 9th, 2017 6:24 PM

Nope. Size and weight have no known in-game mechanics in Pokémon GO outside the Fisherman (XL Magikarp) and Youngster (XS Rattata) medals.

It does make for some hilarious logic, though. For example, I had an XL Pidgey that weighed more than my XS Exeggutor.

Mareep123 January 11th, 2017 2:27 PM

It really does make a difference! {D:}

Captain Fabio January 13th, 2017 5:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VisualJae (Post 9543597)
Nope. Size and weight have no known in-game mechanics in Pokémon GO outside the Fisherman (XL Magikarp) and Youngster (XS Rattata) medals.

It does make for some hilarious logic, though. For example, I had an XL Pidgey that weighed more than my XS Exeggutor.

Pretty much this. I did a fair bit of research into it and, for now, there is zero reason or implication for the size and weight stats.


Mareep123 January 13th, 2017 8:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Fabio (Post 9546699)

Pretty much this. I did a fair bit of research into it and, for now, there is zero reason or implication for the size and weight stats.


I've done a video on it as to how it can effect it. I've included the link in my signature. I tested the theories with one seeming to reveal that perhaps it does? Try it yourself....

VisualJae January 13th, 2017 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mareep123 (Post 9546799)
I've done a video on it as to how it can effect it. I've included the link in my signature. I tested the theories with one seeming to reveal that perhaps it does? Try it yourself....

Extensive research was already done on this since the game was released in the summer. Dodge windows, quick and charge move durations, etc. are all exactly the same regardless of Pokémon size and weight. Every move in the game has a specific cooldown and duration. All dodges can be performed with the same window of time, with the only outside factors being player timing and server lag.

Size and weight also have zero correlation with Pokémon IVs and base stats, with the latter being exactly the same for Pokémon of the same species. A Chansey will ALWAYS have higher base HP (or in Pokémon GO, stamina) than any other Pokémon in the game. An Alakazam will ALWAYS have higher attack stats than a Clefable. These stats are formulated from those pulled directly from the core series games.

And FYI, Pokémon can even go from XS to XL and vice versa just through evolution. Size/weight have nothing to do with their stats. Here's an immediate example just from two Metapod I pulled up:
http://i.imgur.com/bSdRwlC.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/TtJRjDR.png

The first Metapod started off as a XS Caterpie and became a standard size Metapod (not XS. Not XL). It has more HP than the second "XL" Metapod, despite the fact that the second Metapod is at level 21 while the first is level 20. Why the difference? Because the first Metapod has a stamina IV of 14 while the second Metapod's stamina IV is 7. That's all there is to it.

More examples:
http://i.imgur.com/9j3ldZ1.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/xMHa99I.png

Two Pichu. Both level 20. XS one has more HP than the XL one. Why? Because the XS one has a stamina IV of 14 while the XL one has a stamina IV of 12.

More examples:
http://i.imgur.com/FZgmMfc.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/g8ViQBt.png
The first Dragonite isn't marked as XS or XL, but you would say 255.93kg is a bit more than 210kg, right? Then why does the smaller and lighter Dragonite have more HP? Both are level 32. Because the first Dragonite has a stamina IV of 11 and the second one has a stamina IV of 15. That's all there is to it.

For more information on how CP, IVs, and levels work, see here: https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=377501 (the only outdated information is the actual CP formula, but the basis is the same).

As mentioned already, the sizes are gimmicks and the only things that are impacted by them are the two medals. If you want references, the Youngster medal is for Youngster Joey from Gen. II made famous from his "Top Percentage Rattata" meme. As for the Fisherman medal, it's also a reference to Gen. II, specifically the fisherman at the Lake of Rage who dreams of catching the biggest Magikarp and measures any of those you catch.

There's not much room for theory here considering this is literally how the game works.

Mareep123 January 14th, 2017 8:23 AM

Thanks for this post it is an interesting aspect of the game to consider. I don't get why niantic would include something just for the sake of it? Maybe they will reveal something later on down the line....


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