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Hikamaru March 23rd, 2017 8:13 PM

9

Metapod is even more boring. At least it was funny when Ash and Samurai had that battle where both their Metapod kept using Harden.

FeraligatrMaster March 24th, 2017 1:52 AM

8.

Metapod is, in my opinion, one of the ugliest, if not the ugliest Pokemon of Gen 1.

Hikamaru March 24th, 2017 4:52 AM

7

Metapod are difficult to train unless if you evolved one from a Caterpie yourself.

Cad48 March 24th, 2017 5:14 AM

6
Viridian Forest...

FeraligatrMaster March 24th, 2017 5:16 AM

5.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9599976)
Metapod are difficult to train unless if you evolved one from a Caterpie yourself.

Same with Kakuna, Silcoon, and Cascoon; you're better off catching a Weedle or a Wurmple.

LegendChu March 24th, 2017 8:18 AM

4

Just too weak.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 24th, 2017 8:21 AM

3.

Not to mention that they don't even learn Tackle. Only their pre-evolutions do.

LegendChu March 24th, 2017 8:27 AM

2

Which does not make sense, I mean why would a Pokemon not learn at least one attacking move?

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 24th, 2017 8:29 AM

1.

Wynaut and Wobbuffet don't have any attacking moves either, unless you count Counter and Mirror Coat.

LegendChu March 24th, 2017 8:32 AM

0

And Metapod goes into the discarded list. Next up is Butterfree http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/butterfree.gif. At least its much better than its pre-evos.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 24th, 2017 8:34 AM

11.

I'm voting Butterfree up, because it's cute and it's pretty useful early on in the games.

LegendChu March 24th, 2017 8:39 AM

12

Its about okay in battles, but I'll also vote it up, because it is cute.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 24th, 2017 8:42 AM

13.

I don't believe I ever took a Butterfree to the Elite Four. If I use it, I usually replace it with something like the Abra line later on.

LegendChu March 24th, 2017 8:47 AM

14

I've never used Butterfree on my team.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 24th, 2017 9:05 AM

15.

I don't blame you. There are plenty of Pokemon that are much more useful.

LegendChu March 24th, 2017 9:06 AM

16

Right

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 24th, 2017 9:10 AM

17.

Unfortunately, most early Bug type Pokemon have low base stats, even when they're fully evolved.

LegendChu March 24th, 2017 9:13 AM

18

That is very true.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 24th, 2017 9:15 AM

19.

With the Grubbin line, Game Freak pulled something even worse. They made its middle evolution, Charjabug, evolve at the Vast Poni Canyon, which is on the last island in the game.

LegendChu March 24th, 2017 9:25 AM

20

And Butterfree is safe. Next up is Weedle http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/weedle.gif. Another candidate for the discard list?

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 24th, 2017 9:28 AM

9.

Weedle is weak, but more annoying than Caterpie, since it can poison your Pokemon with its Poison Sting.

LegendChu March 24th, 2017 9:30 AM

8

Yes, but still pretty much as useless in battles as Caterpie.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 24th, 2017 9:35 AM

7.

Right. Both are really replaceable.

LegendChu March 24th, 2017 9:37 AM

6

If it was just based on cuteness, I'd pick Caterpie over Weedle.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 24th, 2017 9:40 AM

5.

Yeah, I think I'd do that too. But in terma of battle capacity, Weedle is better than Caterpie.

LegendChu March 24th, 2017 9:45 AM

4

Poison Sting makes all the difference.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 24th, 2017 9:49 AM

3.

Additionally, Beedrill can learn Cut, and I believe Rock Smash too. So it could serve decently as an HM slave.

LegendChu March 24th, 2017 10:05 AM

2

And Defog as well, although I believe its only on DPPt.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 24th, 2017 10:06 AM

1.

Defog has become better in Pokemon X and Y, in which it removes all entry hazards on the field.

LegendChu March 24th, 2017 10:09 AM

0

And Weedle goes into the discard list. Up next is Kakuna http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/kakuna.gif, which is no better.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 24th, 2017 10:10 AM

9.

It does look better than Metapod, and its typing is a bit better defensively. But that's pretty much it.

LegendChu March 24th, 2017 10:17 AM

8

Its just as weak though.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 24th, 2017 10:28 AM

7.

Yeah, that's true.

LegendChu March 24th, 2017 10:38 AM

6

Same goes for Silcoon & Cascoon.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 24th, 2017 10:39 AM

5.

Yeah, and Kricketot and Spewpa too.

Cad48 March 24th, 2017 5:05 PM

4
And Grubbin, as well(to an extent)

Hikamaru March 24th, 2017 11:59 PM

3

I hated how location-based evolution in Sun & Moon... who at Game Freak thought it was a good idea to make Magneton, Nosepass and Charjabug's electric field for evolution so near the endgame? And don't get me started on Crabrawler only evolving right before the Elite Four...

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 12:54 AM

2

A majority of Bug Types are too weak, thus one of my least fav types.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 1:11 AM

1.

They better make Charjabug and Crabrawler evolve at an earlier location in the next series of games!

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 1:29 AM

0

Into the discard list goes Kakuna. Next up is Beedrill http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/beedrill.gif.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 1:32 AM

11.

Beedrill isn't that bad, actually.

As for the Grubbin line, they disappointed me so much. I was hoping (and expected) that Vikavolt would become a physical attacker with decent Speed. Instead, they made it a special attacker with low Speed. Charjabug evolving only at the Vast Poni Canyon didn't help.

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 1:38 AM

12

Vikavolt had the potential to be a great Pokemon battle-wise, but it turned out average.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 1:40 AM

13.

I did use the line early on in Pokemon Moon, but ditched it soon after evolving it into Charjabug.

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 1:45 AM

14

Not playing SM -_-.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 1:48 AM

15.

I've only really bought and played Pokemon Moon. Pokemon Sun does have a very interesting version exclusive Pokemon named Turtonator, but I was going with Litten as my starter, so I went with Moon.

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 1:50 AM

16

Turtonator reminds me of Bowser. Both have similar designs.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 1:51 AM

17.

That's a good thing, since I like Bowser.

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 1:57 AM

18

Metapod & Kakuna can be annoying opponents, especially when they spam Harden.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 2:00 AM

19.

If you have a special attacker, they shouldn't be that hard to take down.

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 2:02 AM

20

And Beedrill is safe. Pidgey http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/pidgey.gif is next, gotta save this line :).

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 2:05 AM

11.

This is the cutest Pidgey sprite ever:
http://www.pokemontrash.com/pokedex/images/cristal/16.gif

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 2:09 AM

12

Its the first Pokemon I ever caught.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 2:11 AM

13.

I prefer the lines of Spearow and Doduo, as they're stronger.

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 2:12 AM

14

I've always used Pidgeot though.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 2:14 AM

15.

IMy favourite regional birds are the lines of Taillow, Starly, Fletchling, and Pikipek.

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 2:16 AM

16

I like most of the regional bird lines.

Pika Pika :chu:

Hikamaru March 25th, 2017 2:18 AM

16

So I was watching Marriland's Nuzlockes and Wedlockes... and I still remember when Caraway died early in his hardcore mode X Wedlocke. Her boy Sage was such a heartbroken frog with going through so many partners.

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 2:19 AM

18.

My least favourite regional bird line is the Pidove line. Pidove is cute, but Tranquill is annoying and I don't really like female Unfezant's design.

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 2:20 AM

19

If I had to pick a least fav, I'd probably go with Spearow.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 2:22 AM

20.

I do like the Spearow line. It's pretty strong for an early game Pokemon.

But anyways, Pidgey is safe now!

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 2:25 AM

11

Pidgeotto http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/pidgeotto.gif is next.

Pika Pika :chu:

Hikamaru March 25th, 2017 2:26 AM

12

Now it's Pidgeotto time!

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 2:27 AM

13.

Pidgeotto is okay I guess...

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 2:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeraligatrMaster (Post 9600902)
12.

Pidgeotto is okay I guess...

14

You got ninja'd :P.

Pika Pika :chu:

Hikamaru March 25th, 2017 2:29 AM

14

Too many ninjas.

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 2:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9600908)
14

Too many ninjas.

16

And you got ninja'd too. Its a Pidgeotto ninja war.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 2:36 AM

17.

Let's talk about ninja Pokemon, shall we? My favourite ninja Pokemon is Greninja, though I also like Gliscor, Crobat, and Ninjask.

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 2:42 AM

18

Gliscor is a good Pokemon to have on the roster.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 2:43 AM

19.

I've used a Gliscor once, in Pokemon Polished Crystal.

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 2:47 AM

20

Pidgeotto is safe. Pidgeot http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/pidgeot.gif is next.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 2:48 AM

11.

Pidgeot has a good Mega Evolution.

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 2:51 AM

12

Agreed.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 2:53 AM

13.

I do wish it had some more coverage moves, though.

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 8:53 AM

14

It does have a limited moveset.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 9:36 AM

15.

There are more Pokemon that I wish had more coverage moves. Raichu and Lurantis come to mind.

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 9:40 AM

16

A lot of Pokemon could do with a better moveset.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 9:47 AM

17.

There are also Pokemon with 4 or more good moves. In this case, people speak of 4MSS, meaning that they wish their Pokemon could have more than 4 moves.

LegendChu March 25th, 2017 9:52 AM

18

Maybe they should.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 25th, 2017 10:26 AM

19.

Maybe Game Freak should expand the moveslot amount from 4 to 6.

Cad48 March 25th, 2017 5:23 PM

18
I was underleveled for Falkner, somehow...
And I think 4 moves is fine, except maybe certain Pokémon should have more

LegendChu March 26th, 2017 12:45 AM

19

If they are to increase max moves learnt, it should be for all Pokemon.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 26th, 2017 1:56 AM

20.

What LegendChu said. Also, Pidgeot is safe now.

EDIT: It's Pidgeot, not Pidgeotto, which is safe now.

Hikamaru March 26th, 2017 3:25 AM

11

Now it's time for Bird Jesus... aka Pidgeot

FeraligatrMaster March 26th, 2017 3:27 AM

10.

Wait a minute... Isn't Pidgeot actually saved now? Shouldn't Rattata be next?

LegendChu March 26th, 2017 10:03 AM

8

Right, Rattata http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/rattata.gif should've been next & I'm supposing you want to count it down, so counting down by 2.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 26th, 2017 10:43 AM

8.

I'm also counting Hikamaru's last post.

LegendChu March 27th, 2017 12:42 AM

7

Rattata is your typical weak early Pokemon.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 27th, 2017 12:43 AM

6.

There are Team Rocket members who tend to throw early Raticates at you.

LegendChu March 27th, 2017 12:52 AM

5

Super Fang is what you should be wary of.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 27th, 2017 12:54 AM

4.

I'm honestly more worried about Hyper Fang flinching me, because that happens more often to me than them using Super Fang.

LegendChu March 27th, 2017 12:56 AM

3

Personally, I've not had much problems with Rattata or Raticate, always keep my Pokemon well-trained.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 27th, 2017 12:58 AM

2.

If anything is more troublesome, it's Watchog. It gets Hypnosis, Confuse Ray, and Super Fang at an early level.

LegendChu March 27th, 2017 1:00 AM

1

That's right.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 27th, 2017 1:00 AM

0.

Rattata is down and out.

LegendChu March 27th, 2017 1:04 AM

9

Raticate http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/raticate.gif is up next. I don't like it too much, so gonna count it down.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 27th, 2017 1:06 AM

8.

Just like Butterfree and friends, Raticate can be useful early in the game, but is pretty replaceable.

LegendChu March 27th, 2017 1:09 AM

7

You can use it as an HM Slave, but there are better Pokemon for that too.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 27th, 2017 1:12 AM

6.

Yeah, like Psyduck, Linoone, Wailmer, Tropius, and Bibarel. And if you don't mind using a starter as an HM slave, count the lines of Bulbasaur, Chikorita, Turtwig, and Piplup too.

LegendChu March 27th, 2017 1:21 AM

5

I never use starters as HM Slaves, they are always part of my main roster.

Pika Pika :chu:

FeraligatrMaster March 27th, 2017 1:22 AM

4.

I never really use my starter as an HM slave either. If I give them HM's, I give them good ones, like Surf and Fly.


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