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Alolan Mix-Up: Submit a movepool for Alolan Butterfree!
Alolan Mix-Up http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/media/uploads/aug_1_assets/pr_alola-770x562.png Make-a-Mega is returning, but it's not returning alone! I'll be alternating the months we create Mega Evolutions in MaM with months we create an Alolan Form in the Alolan Mix-Up. Since Generation Seven is the most recent, we'll be starting things off with a Mix-Up. How This WorksAn Alolan Mix-Up works much the same as MaM does. Over a number of weeks we'll work together as a community to create an Alolan regional variant of an existing Pokemon from one of the other regions. Here in Battling & Team Building, we'll decide on our Alolan Pokemon's new type, ability, stat distribution and also changes to its movepool. Meanwhile, once our Pokemon is selected, a partner thread in Art & Design will go up where the appearance of our Pokemon will be designed. Decisions here will be made through a series of quick polls. Each week we will have three days of submissions and then four days with the poll up to make our decisions. The poll topics will be as follows Week One: Pokemon Selection Week Two: Type Selection Week Three: Ability Selection (Same number of abilities as the original form) Week Four: Stat Distribution Week Five: Moves by Level Up RulesTo keep things fair and make sure we don't break the games' lore, we'll have some rules to follow. 1. No Legendary Pokemon 2. You may only submit one suggestion for each poll. 3. Don't submit Pokemon native to Alola, that already possess Alolan forms or that have a Mega Evolution. 5. Whilst you can rearrange the stats of the Alola form, you cannot change the Pokemon's base stat total. 6. Try to give some reasoning for your suggestions and feel free to discuss those of other participants. 7. Have fun. Or else. With all that out of the way, feel free to start putting some ideas forward! |
Let's give Butterfree an Alola form!
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Let's give Dunsparce an Alolan form
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Damn psyduck needs love.Lets make Psyduck great again.
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I wanna see Poliwag and co. get some of that 7th gen love
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Let's make an Alolan Carbink! :p
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I think Alolan Ambipom could be fun.
Poll going up now! |
I voted for Butterfree!(Obviously) It was rumored to have an Alola form, but that turned out to be untrue. I still think it has a ton of possibilities for a new form and needs some love. Especially since Beedrill has a mega!
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Voted for all Kanto Pokémon! I think they're the ones who would make for creative Alolan forms with unusual typings.
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Voted for psyduck. Btw I realised that changing psyduck's typing would mean it affecting golduck too. I might only suggest from now on the final evolutions.
Here are the reasons for not voting others- Carbink-Diancie already has a mega evo Poliwag-Changing poliwag's typing would mean changing poliwhirl and polowrath's typing(ignoring politoed) Dunsprace- What's a dunsprace? Butterfree - Jealousy Ambipom - Now I come to think of it, I like idea of ambipom getting an alolan form. |
I voted for Psyduck and Poliwag with the assumption that we're doing the final evolutions. Butterfree got my vote too.
Butterfree could be Bug/Psychic. Golduck has a ton of possibilities, such as Psychic, Dark, Ghost, Ice, and maybe even drop the Water typing. Alolan Politoed could be like one of those frogs in Zelda that fly in clouds. Poliwrath is a bit restricted unless its Water typing is removed for something like Poison, but then it'll just be another Toxicroak... |
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Sorry for being a day late guys! PC went down and it kind of slipped my mind to do this earlier today. Butterfree has won a narrow victory in the poll so now it's time to choose a new type (or new types!) for it. Throw your suggestions at us!
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Bug/Psychic
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let's go with something different/cool instead
Bug/Dark vampire butterfly with leech life pls |
bug/ghost
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I like christos' idea, bug/psychic makes sense but that feels more mega-butterfree to me, alola form is meant to be different than expected in my eyes so I'm going with the bug/dark combo as well, maybe butterfree had to become more aggressive/stealthy to survive
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I wouldn't mind a bug/dark type! We could give it cool moves like crunch, leech life, etc
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Bug/Ghost sounds interesting. I imagine some really cool designs could come of it and its has the same benefit of being able to scare off Dark Pokemon that might want to switch in and carries two types its immune to... plus it wouldn't have the Fairy weakness which is something nothing needs with Fairy running rampant everywhere.
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Dark or Ghost vampire Butterfree sounds amazing. Bug/Ghost isn't that out of the left field either, because it learns Shadow Ball, Ominous Wind, and Nightmare. Dark maybe fits the theme better.
Bug/Grass is a possibility since it learns all those powder status moves. |
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Well I would love a bug/rock. Just that it will need a major overhaul in its movepool.
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I voted for Bug/Dark and Bug/Psychic! I think both are very interesting options and have a ton of potential.
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Bug/Dark it is!
So what kind of abilities should it have? Remember submissions should include the same number of abilities a normal butterfree could have (2 including the HA). |
Maybe an original ability that applies Leech Life effects to every contact move. "Life Drain"? If we go down the route of making a vampire Butterfree, it's doable with stats such as these: 50 HP / 135 Atk / 50 Def / 5 SAtk / 50 SDef / 105 Spe. Could move 5 or 10 more stats to SAtk from something else to be fairer and more in line with what they did to Mega Beedrill.
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I like wolf's ability suggestion but maybe name is Soul Sap
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So we didn't actually get enough ability suggestions so I'm going to throw in Infiltrator for a combination of
Infiltrator/Soul Sap |
Infiltrator is pretty cool! I was thinking that as well for a 2nd ability. I do wonder how strong we should make Soul Sap(Spirit Sap?). Would it be 50% as well, stacking with Leech Life for 75% healing? What about 20% healing on all contact moves?
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20% on all contact moves would work, with Leech Life then getting 70% healing (op?)
I'm also going to suggest Adaptability because Mega Beedrill |
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Adaptability with? Remember this isn't a Mega. |
Infiltrator is cool, but Dry Skin also makes sense since harsh sunlight is fatal to vampires.
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Oooh I like Dry Skin too!
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It could have 2 main abilities and then a HA. Soul Sap and Infiltrator/Adaptability and maybe Dry Skin as a HA.
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Okay, so since we ended up going over. I'm going to run the poll whilst we discuss stat distribution. So the poll for abilities is going up now. As soon as someone gets rid of the old poll for me.
When discussing stats, remember this isn't a Mega Pokemon, it's an Alolan form. You can redistribute Butterfree's stats, but you can't change its BST. |
Keeping in mind Soul Sap causing Alolan-Butterfree to recover 20% of the damage it does when it makes contact, a physical set makes the most sense stat-wise imo.
HP: 60 Atk: 95 Def: 50 SpA: 20 SpD: 70 Spe: 100 I figure we'll probably give it something like Hone Claws or Swords Dance in the next section since Quiver Dance will be useless. The defenses here are still pitiful, but I think that's an important balancing factor given that Soul Sap Leech Life recovers 70% of the damage it deals, which is a lot if its got an OHKO or 2HKO. +2 Alolan Butterfree would be a nightmare for a lot of things to switch into, including M-Venu, Tapu Lele, Tapu Bulu, Greninja and Alolan Marowak. Worth noting that with Dry Skin, it'd be a brilliant check for Ash-Greninja. |
I like Pie's set tbh. It's not great at first glance, but if Butterfree is given a boosting move and good STAB, it will hit pretty hard and unlike a mega, can hold Life Orb or Choice Band.
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Okay, I guess we're going with my set then. Time for the last segment, movepool (by level up). Following the same pattern as the normal Butterfree, submit a new movepool for Alolan Butterfree to have access too. Have fun!
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1 Gust 1 Bite Evo. Gust 11 Bite 13 Poison Powder 13 Stun Spore 13 Sleep Powder 17 Leech Life 19 Payback 23 Hypnosis 25 Safeguard 29 Whirlwind 31 Lunge 35 Rage Powder 37 Fake Tears 41 Nasty Plot 43 Night Slash 47 Quiver Dance |
Just stealing Ruff's format ;)
1 Tackle Evo. Bite 11 Tackle 13 Poison Powder 13 Stun Spore 13 Sleep Powder 17 Leech Life 19 Ominous Wind 23 Supersonic 25 Safeguard 29 Whirlwind 31 Lunge 35 Rage Powder 37 Taunt 41 Glare 43 Crunch 47 Swords Dance Since it's a physical Pokemon, this makes a bit more sense to me than RuFF's more specially-oriented learnset. |
I know you requested level up movepool, but I figured adding a TM movepool won't hurt?
Level-up: Lv. 1 Tackle Lv. 1 Harden Lv. 1 String Shot Lv. 1 Bug Bite Lv. 1 Electroweb Evo. Bite Lv. 13 Night Shade Lv. 16 Confuse Ray Lv. 21 Dark Pulse Lv. 26 Lunge Lv. 32 Swords Dance Lv. 37 Crunch Lv. 42 Taunt Lv. 48 Mean Look Lv. 53 Leech Life Lv. 59 Psychic Fangs Lv. 63 Glare TM: TM 01: Work Up TM 04: Calm Mind TM 06: Toxic TM 10: Hidden Power TM 12: Taunt TM 15: Hyper Beam TM 16: Light Screen TM 17: Protect TM 18: Rain Dance TM 19: Roost TM 21: Frustration TM 27: Return TM 28: Leech Life TM 29: Psychic TM 30: Shadow Ball TM 32: Double Team TM 33: Reflect TM 40: Aerial Ace TM 44: Rest TM 45: Attract TM 46: Thief TM 68: Giga Impact TM 75: Swords Dance TM 88: Sleep Talk TM 89: U-turn TM 90: Substitute TM 97: Dark Pulse TM 100: Confide |
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The poll is now up for the movepool!
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I like Chase's but it's lacking Sleep Powder. :( Psychic Fangs is neato though. Voted for gimmepie's in the end because of Sleep Powder, SD is put off for later (balance!), and Ominous Wind for flavor.
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Option two it is!
Look forward to seeing the article in the future. |
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