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OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 6th, 2017 9:21 AM

Ultra Beasts
 
Sun and Moon introduced a new category of Pokemon called Ultra Beasts whose base stats rival those of the various side-trios (Birds, Beasts, Golems, Lake, Musketeers, etc.) throughout the series in addition to those of the Guardian Deities.
However, only the first Ultra Beast, Nihilego played a real role in Sun and Moon. And of the others only the second one made an on screen appearance in the main story.
Do you think that this role will be expanded? Any expectations for new formes for the beasts? Perhaps even new beasts will be made?

Speculate away.

Hikamaru June 6th, 2017 9:58 AM

Angie sums up most of what I was going to say, but she is correct in that the Ultra Beasts were poorly handled in Sun & Moon.

Nihilego was the only one who even played a major role in the plot, and while Buzzwole/Pheromosa appeared in a cutscene getting into a battle with Tapu Koko, you don't see them again until the postgame. The idea of being able to get multiples of some of the UBs was neat, so that you had some to trade over but it was still a poorly handled new concept.

Given what Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon's titles are, I hope it implies Ultra Beasts will play a bigger role.

Tom2 June 6th, 2017 9:59 AM

I never really cared for the Ultra Beasts. I understand what they were going for but didn't care for them being put into pokemon. I find all of them pretty Ugly and I dislike how unnatural they all look. They feel more like creatures from Yu-Gi-Oh then pokemon design wise. Personally I just want the return of Megas, and new ones. I think GF is trying to distance themselves from them, which is very unfortunate as Megas made me love pokemon ever more than I already did.

blue June 6th, 2017 10:00 AM

Ok, so I think it's clear that Necrozma has some connections with the UBs, I mean it even has a similar cry to them all. The titles are a slight give away with the "Ultra" prefix which leads me to believe they'll once again be the main focus of the storyline. It will be interesting to see what direction they decide to take if these games take place after the events of Sun & Moon with Lusamine out of the picture. Perhaps the Aether Foundation has a new motive with the Ultra Beasts, and Colress is at the helm of it all! Hopefully we'll get more of a backstory into the origin of UBs and how they first came about. It does feel like we had a lot of loose ends in that regard from Sun & Moon. As for new Ultra Beasts, while it's a possibility.. I'm gonna say no.

Sirfetch’d June 6th, 2017 12:51 PM

I actually think more UBs is a great possibility. They said that we'd be getting new Pokemon and I really think those will come in the form of UBs and Alola forms as opposed to just additional gen 7 mons. We shall see though!

Hikamaru June 6th, 2017 1:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Choice Specs (Post 9669399)
I actually think more UBs is a great possibility. They said that we'd be getting new Pokemon and I really think those will come in the form of UBs and Alola forms as opposed to just additional gen 7 mons. We shall see though!

I'm against adding new Pokemon within games of the same generation, because it will create a huge compatibility issue and makes me think of Game Freak forcing you to get the newest games which not everyone wants to do right away. Remember what we learned from the OR/AS Mega Evolutions not being able to battle X/Y players.

Mawa June 6th, 2017 1:15 PM

UB were.. okay. I am not excited for them but I don't mind them. I don't really want to see more of them tho... I would like to see alolan forms from gen 2 tho. And I think it is possible, with the access to G/S on the Eshop in September?

jombii June 6th, 2017 5:03 PM

UB's were meh. Awesome in competitive, but lacking story-wise. I hope we only get what we have already and probably expand on their story more.

pkmin3033 June 7th, 2017 8:01 AM

New Ultra Beasts
 
So, Sun and Moon introduced Ultra Beasts, Pokemon from another dimension. Given the "Ultra" in the title, it's a fairly safe bet that US/UM will expand upon Ultra Beasts and their home dimension, the Ultra Space, in some fashion.

So, would you like to see some new UBs? What sort of designs, or type combinations, would you envisage them having?

shadowmoon522 June 7th, 2017 8:06 AM

i hope they remove that crappy shiny locking from them and the tapus

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 7th, 2017 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue (Post 9669167)
Ok, so I think it's clear that Necrozma has some connections with the UBs, I mean it even has a similar cry to them all. The titles are a slight give away with the "Ultra" prefix which leads me to believe they'll once again be the main focus of the storyline. It will be interesting to see what direction they decide to take if these games take place after the events of Sun & Moon with Lusamine out of the picture. Perhaps the Aether Foundation has a new motive with the Ultra Beasts, and Colress is at the helm of it all! Hopefully we'll get more of a backstory into the origin of UBs and how they first came about. It does feel like we had a lot of loose ends in that regard from Sun & Moon. As for new Ultra Beasts, while it's a possibility.. I'm gonna say no.

And let's not forget that Solgaleo and Lunala are said to originally come from the Ultra Space and thus are Ultra Beasts themselves. I have a theory that the Tapus are too...

Kartanaheart June 7th, 2017 1:35 PM

hhhHHHH...The Ultra Beasts could have played such a bigger role in the story besides only one being relevant and the rest being part of an aftergame catch quest. I wish they expand on them in the next games and hopefully add some new ones. That's my greatest wish.

shadowmoon522 June 7th, 2017 1:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kartanaheart (Post 9671300)
hhhHHHH...The Ultra Beasts could have played such a bigger role in the story besides only one being relevant and the rest being part of an aftergame catch quest. I wish they expand on them in the next games and hopefully add some new ones. That's my greatest wish.

i want this to as well as removing that damn shiny lock on em

clbgolden June 7th, 2017 1:52 PM

I'd love some new Ultra Beasts, but please give them a bigger role. In Sun and Moon the only "important" ones were UB-01 and (kind of) UB-02, while the rest were just shoved off into the post-game.

jombii June 7th, 2017 5:59 PM

No new ultra beast. The number we have is fine. Expand on them please.

Brendino June 7th, 2017 9:18 PM

Just a heads up that we've already got a thread discussing the possibility of new Ultra Beasts open right now, so I'm going to go ahead and move this over there for you!

MERGED.

Hikamaru June 9th, 2017 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Home (Post 9671708)
No new ultra beast. The number we have is fine. Expand on them please.

I personally feel the seven we have right now is enough. They just need to be expanded on more in terms of backstory and such.

-Nonsense- June 10th, 2017 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by shadowmoon522 (Post 9670795)
i hope they remove that crappy shiny locking from them and the tapus

Sadly that probably wont happen....best hope for some sort of event.

janejane6178 June 10th, 2017 4:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom2 (Post 9669165)
I never really cared for the Ultra Beasts. I understand what they were going for but didn't care for them being put into pokemon. I find all of them pretty Ugly and I dislike how unnatural they all look. They feel more like creatures from Yu-Gi-Oh then pokemon design wise. Personally I just want the return of Megas, and new ones. I think GF is trying to distance themselves from them, which is very unfortunate as Megas made me love pokemon ever more than I already did.

Thankyou for posting this, I think the same

shadowmoon522 June 10th, 2017 9:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GnX1 (Post 9674254)
Sadly that probably wont happen....best hope for some sort of event.

well, they got rid of reshiram & zekrom shiny locks in oras so anythings possible.

-Nonsense- June 10th, 2017 9:57 AM

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Originally Posted by shadowmoon522 (Post 9674694)
well, they got rid of reshiram & zekrom shiny locks in oras so anythings possible.

Right, that did happen.

Still it more than likely won't happen while we're still in Gen 7 without an event.

shadowmoon522 June 10th, 2017 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom2 (Post 9669165)
I never really cared for the Ultra Beasts. I understand what they were going for but didn't care for them being put into pokemon. I find all of them pretty Ugly and I dislike how unnatural they all look. They feel more like creatures from Yu-Gi-Oh then pokemon design wise. Personally I just want the return of Megas, and new ones. I think GF is trying to distance themselves from them, which is very unfortunate as Megas made me love pokemon ever more than I already did.

my main problem with them is that they made them into pokemon rather then having a different type of creature roaming around.
like how didgimon has hemostasis, gennai & his counterparts, the digignomes, and the D-Reaper.
the ultra beats had the potential to be like the D-Reaper, as in being fundamentally different beings in contrast to everything else.
besides, just about everything monster-like looks like a yugioh card.
hell, venonats are practically the pokemon insect counterparts to kuribohs
https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/9/90/Kuriboh-SDMY-EN-C-1E.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/300?cb=20161021200140http://static.api6.studiobebop.net/pokemon_data/card_images/Venonat__63_64__Jungle.jpg

Tom2 June 10th, 2017 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowmoon522 (Post 9674712)
my main problem with them is that they made them into pokemon rather then having a different type of creature roaming around.
like how didgimon has hemostasis, gennai & his counterparts, the digignomes, and the D-Reaper.
the ultra beats had the potential to be like the D-Reaper, as in being fundamentally different beings in contrast to everything else.
besides, just about everything monster-like looks like a yugioh card.
hell, venonats are practically the pokemon insect counterparts to kuribohs
https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/9/90/Kuriboh-SDMY-EN-C-1E.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/300?cb=20161021200140http://static.api6.studiobebop.net/pokemon_data/card_images/Venonat__63_64__Jungle.jpg

Venonat came before Kuriboh so it would be a pokemon in the Yugioh world rather than Vice Versa ^^

Yugioh'z got no place in my beloved franchise.

shadowmoon522 June 10th, 2017 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom2 (Post 9674741)
Venonat came before Kuriboh so it would be a pokemon in the Yugioh world rather than Vice Versa ^^

Yugioh'z got no place in my beloved franchise.

to late for that. i mean, pokemons has already been taking a lot of inspiration from other series. mostly digimon recently
also the ultra beasts are more akin to digimon then yugioh monsters anyway.
http://i.imgur.com/LuS3OEW.jpg

pkmin3033 June 10th, 2017 11:47 PM

I'd like more Ultra Beasts. They don't really look like Pokemon, but I think that's the point - they're supposed to look otherworldy. I don't think they were a good idea or really necessary, but now that they've made them a thing I'd like GF to expand on them and develop them properly; maybe at least 5-10 more this time, with small expansions with each successive game. I expect they'll be a passing trend, much like Mega Evolution was...but I'd like them to continue to give Pokemon Megas too, so yeah.

But I find it kinda ironic that a lot of people dislike UBs, yet these same people will criticise new Pokemon for looking too similar to ones from previous generations. Personally, I don't think GF are running out of ideas, more that they're failing to fully explore the ideas they have in favour of repeating the same tired, underwhelming narrative each and every game...


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