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Hikamaru July 27th, 2017 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexander18 (Post 9694476)
Yeah. 802 is a lot. Best they can do is include older pokemon in USUM.

I think that is something I can agree with. B2/W2 added older Pokemon to the Unova Dex, so it's fair to say US/UM will do the same, especially when you consider how terribly handled the original Alola Dex was in terms of generation distribution with its native Pokemon, with Kanto and Alola Pokemon dominating the lineup.

Alexander18 July 27th, 2017 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9716404)
I think that is something I can agree with. B2/W2 added older Pokemon to the Unova Dex, so it's fair to say US/UM will do the same, especially when you consider how terribly handled the original Alola Dex was in terms of generation distribution with its native Pokemon, with Kanto and Alola Pokemon dominating the lineup.

Hopefully the other gens get better treatment. I think the pokedex could have about 400 - 500.

BlazingCobaltX July 27th, 2017 12:48 AM

I damn hope so. It feels super weird having no dex number or entries for a lot of Pokémon - not only for information purpose, but it feels like there's no higher goal to reach to. I'm already halfway the Alola dex, it feels almost too easy. The chance is slim now that Pokébank has such a feature, but I really hope they bring it back in USUM (or next Gen if they won't).

shadowmoon522 July 27th, 2017 7:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BlazingCobaltX (Post 9716427)
I damn hope so. It feels super weird having no dex number or entries for a lot of Pokémon - not only for information purpose, but it feels like there's no higher goal to reach to. I'm already halfway the Alola dex, it feels almost too easy. The chance is slim now that Pokébank has such a feature, but I really hope they bring it back in USUM (or next Gen if they won't).

its also a pain in the ass to try & sort mons by number only to have to pull out another ds or a pc in order to see where their supposed to go

Altairis July 28th, 2017 8:34 AM

All I want is a National dex!

Phyrrhic July 28th, 2017 8:48 AM

The National Dex is a quintessential part of any Pokemon game in my opinion. I would love to see it back, and i have a feeling it will return.

(If not a National Dex, i really hope they get rid of the annoying as ever "Rotom Dex". The Dex is a device, not a character!)

Hikamaru July 28th, 2017 9:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Phyrrhic (Post 9717489)
(If not a National Dex, i really hope they get rid of the annoying as ever "Rotom Dex". The Dex is a device, not a character!)

Remember that Rotom Dex's purpose in S/M was to guide the player character around, since he/she was a foreigner who moved to Alola from another region. If the US/UM player characters are also foreigners who moved to Alola, it will likely mean Rotom Dex will be here to stay.

Phyrrhic July 29th, 2017 1:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9717847)
Remember that Rotom Dex's purpose in S/M was to guide the player character around, since he/she was a foreigner who moved to Alola from another region. If the US/UM player characters are also foreigners who moved to Alola, it will likely mean Rotom Dex will be here to stay.

Fair point, I had forgotten that aspect/purpose for the character.

I still wish for a more Pokegear (GS / HGSS) type approach for player guiding, as I found the character to be grating, especially post game, where I don't need any more guidance.

It just seemed childish to me.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 30th, 2017 9:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9694145)
It does feel weird, but when you consider how many Pokemon there are, I feel Game Freak likely wanted to do it this way (aka make it Bank-exclusive) is so they don't have to spend so much time writing all those Pokedex entries.

Funny that you bring that up since Gen VI recycled a lot of older dex entries, and Gen V (at least BW did) reused those of Platinum's for non Unova mons. With Gen VII having new ones, I was looking forward to finally getting something else after years of certain mons not gaining any new entries.

Hikamaru August 7th, 2017 1:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9719237)
Funny that you bring that up since Gen VI recycled a lot of older dex entries, and Gen V (at least BW did) reused those of Platinum's for non Unova mons. With Gen VII having new ones, I was looking forward to finally getting something else after years of certain mons not gaining any new entries.

I was feeling the same too, considering how much Alola emphasised on nature and how it behaves, yet Game Freak only cared about what was in the regional Dex. That's like wasted potential for Pokedex entries for 500 out of 802 Pokemon.


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