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Mega Evolution
do you think there's any chance Mega Evolution will be a bit more explored/expanded in these games? I far preferred it to Z-Moves and I found its incorporation into SM extremely lazy. hoping they'll make a bit more of an effort this time.
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Megas are cool and I'd certainly like to see them make a return. However, I think once again the focus will be on new Alola forms and Ultra Beasts(possibly new ones) alongside Z-moves. Not sure if megas could fit into the plot without overdoing it.
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Introducing new features, hyping them up, and then doing absolutely nothing with them and dropping them almost as quickly as they introduced them is one of Game Freak's favorite things recently (ESPECIALLY recently), so probably not. They don't seem to have any interest in going back to Mega Evolution, and I honestly expect the same thing to happen to Z moves and Alola/regional forms when they finally move on to the next generation.
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I hope so. I prefer it over Z-moves that's for sure and introducing new Megas (for Kalos/Alola Pokemon, I pray) would be a good way to reinvent the concept and reinstate it into the main storyline.
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As some of the other posts said, Game Freak doesn't seem to be interested in promoting Mega Evolution anymore, and as Red said that will likely be the fate for stuff like Z-Moves as well after 7th Gen ends.
I know we likely won't get new Megas due to Game Freak throwing Megas into the backseat, but it would still be nice to have some new ideas get used. |
I want some other gen 5 mega's than just Audino.
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I don't expect new mega evolutions, but I can imagine all the mega stones that weren't obtainable in S/M to be obtainable in US/UM.
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Honestly , I prefer Megevolution over Z-move.
Z-move is just a fancy move you can only use for one turn and it might fail. While Megevolution is something you can use for the entire battle as it can upgrade user type , ability and star. |
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I believe Megas will not play a major role in this game, nor will they introduce new ones, because Megas were Gen6's thing, and Gen7's is Z-moves...and Alolan forms, i guess.
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There's just too much to focus on imo. Since we already have Z-Crystals, Alolan forms, Ultra Beasts, and now what appears to be new legendary fusions/forms, I doubt Mega Evolutions would fit well into the storyline alongside these. I'm guessing it will be similar to SM in that they get a small plot in the postgame.
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As much as I would love to see more megas, I'm pretty sure that Game Freak has ditched them considering the treatment recieved in Sun/Moon. Just like how they will likely ditch Z-moves when Gen VIII comes around.
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Also, Solgaleo and Lunala aren't fusing with Necrozma in those screenshots. They only look like they are wearing part of Necrozma's body, seemingly like armor, and fans are pointing out of Necrozma's ability called Prism Armor. So yeah, it's not fusion. :V |
As much I'd love myself some new Megas, I'm afraid that there aren't gonna be any new ones this gens. They seem to want to put full focus on Z-Moves.
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Again, I don't see Solgaleo and Lunala fusing with Necrozma. As per your first example with Gen5, look at Kyurem's fusion forms. They look too different from original Kyurem, don't you agree? Now look at USUM's Solgaleo and Lunala. Not much difference, yes? They are, again, looking like they're wearing parts of Necrozma's body armor. As for what we will call this new USUM cover legendary forms, I don't know. |
I think it'll be similar to how they did it in Sun & Moon, only this time they'll give you a separate slot in the bag for all the Mega Stones, and they'll give you all the Mega Stones at once, instead of making you buy them with BP, or enter codes for them.
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Unfortunately, I feel like the amount of emphasis on Mega Evolution in Pokémon Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon (US/UM) will be identical to the amount of emphasis that was in Pokémon Sun/Moon.. Granted, US/UM already had a lot to focus on - Ultra Beasts, Alolan forms/regional-variant forms, and Zenryoku (Z) Moves. Nevertheless, more Mega Evolutions would be a nice surprise; I hope that US/UM has all existing Mega Stones within the game itself - the "event-exclusive/downloadable content (DLC) implementation that was present in SM was just horrid, ridiculous, and unnecessary nonsense, although I somewhat understand why it was done - money, and faux-extension of SM's longevity as a currently-talked-about game. Never mind the Mega Stones that had costly Battle Point prices..
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As for the newfound "Necrozma armor" for Solgaleo and Lunala, I guess it depends on how one defines the concept of "fusion" - particularly whether the armor is even Necrozma itself or just black prisms that coincidentally happen to resemble Necrozma.. And if the armor is actually Necrozma itself, is Necrozma still sentient in that form or not? (I personally believe that the armor is Necrozma itself who might be still sentient, but we'll see..) I would argue that the "Necrozma parts" can at the very least be defined as a union with Solgaleo and Lunala. While they do appear to manifest more as armor and not necessarily as a biological fusion, some parts look embedded in the body, like the things on Solgaleo's claws - with the embedding, to me, resembling things like artificial limbs/grafts, implanted dentures, and ocular (eye) implants, all of which may be said to be biologically fused with someone's main body. If things like Slowbro/Slowking (basically a morphed Shellder biting onto Slowpoke's tail or head) and Magneton (basically 3 Magnemite floating in near/close proximity in each other, probably with something like augmented electromagnetic and/or intermolecular forces and all that jazz) can be regarded as fusions, I don't see why the physically-touching Necrozma-parts of the cosmic duo can't be considered as fusions, either.. The Necrozma-armored forms kind of remind me of the Bio-merging transformations/process from Digimon Tamers (which manifests as a sentient kid in a bubble with huge sentient monster-based body armor), as well as the formation of the Red Ranger Battilizers from Power Rangers SPD (armor made from a semi-sentient dismembered robotic dog) and Power Rangers Mystic Force (armor made from a sentient dragon). In those cases, everything is synergistically fused if not biologically fused - the Mystic Force example is probably the best, since you have a sentient biological dragon acting as technological armor similarly to what it looks like Necrozma will do in US/UM. Additionally, some of Necrozma's parts are interlocking with Solgaleo and Lunala - if they were machines, I think few people would hesitate to call the resulting unified entity a "fusion".. In any case, with Necrozma alone, it seems like US/UM will have their hands full to focus on Mega Evolution properly. I just hope that Mega Evolution doesn't become deprecated in the near future as a gimmick - it's a perfectly usable mechanic that has room for improvement, and it has had a lot of time dedicated to promoting it already. No need to toss all of that effort to the wayside. Admittedly, it would be nice if the number of items involved with Mega Evolution could be reduced, because the sheer amount of items that need to be sustained across generations is getting to be ridiculous now.. |
I have to say Fenyx, your theory on how Necrozma would play part is very well-detailed.
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I am wondering if USUM can introduce something similar as Mega evolution.
Such as : Z-form or Ultra evolution. After all , We did saw the player twitching the Z-Crystal of his Z-ring. I really really don't want it to be some fancy way to use Z-Move! I prefer it to be a evolution trigger. Quote:
The Pokemon might get down before it uses Z-move Or The Z-move might not do as much as damege you excepted and get taken down in the next turn. Or Z-move might just fail. Lets se honest that Z-move are way to risky and less useful then Megevolution. I mean , Would you like to Mega Lucario with adaptability or Regular Lucario with All out Pumelling ? Because A Mega Lucario with his Adaptability would be far more useful. |
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I don't think so, Mega evolution seems like an afterthought now and it'll probably stay that way since its all about Zmoves/power this gen.
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Honestly, I like the idea that Z-Crystals are unique to the reality where Mega Evolution doesn't exist, rather than something from Ultra Space, given that you can't use Z-Crystals with Mega Evolved Pokemon. There are some interesting similarities between the two they could easily link together in USUM if they wanted to, though. Unfortunately, since the Mega Evolution was Gen VI's gimmick and was more or less wrapped up with ORAS, it seems unlikely it'll feature in USUM at all...
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I think that Game Freak is trying to move away from Mega evolution. They've got some issues Mega's. It's a nightmare for Pokédesigners, because they need to design a new Pokémon every time for a Mega evolution. This restricts the number of Pokémon that can Mega evolve and it makes it a bit unfair for Pokémon that can't Mega evolve. While, Z-moves are much more fair, every Pokémon can use it. And it doesn't require extra Pokémon designs.
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I agree from a gameplay perspective Z-Moves are fairer and generally more balanced than Mega Evolutions...but I don't think design has anything to do with why Game Freak are moving away from Mega Evolution. |
Honestly , I think that its unfair that some pokemon got megevoution while other didn't.
Specially among starter pokemons! Also , Exclusive Z-move does not make up for megevolution. Just think , Who is more useful ? Mega charizard X with Touch claw ability that gain dragon typing and star boost Or Incineroar with Moonlight Assault that he can use only once in one turn against only one target. Basically , It like determining Kento and Hoenn starter to be superior then every other starter Pokemon since they can Megevolve. Not to mention that they can still use all other Z-move without megevolving except the one exclusive to sudden pokemon. |
I would love new mega evolutions and new Alola forms. One thing that would be cool is if they did Alola form mega evolutions and I really want Luxray to get a mega or an Alolan form or both. However it is definitely not likely. They didn't add anything new to previous generations themes in a new generation. We are probably only gonna see mega beasts, Alolan forms, and everything else introduced in S/M. That doesn't mean it isn't impossible though and maybe if we pray to Arceus we will get new megas.
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As much as I love Mega evolutions, I'm pretty gosh darn sure they won't be making a comeback :(
BUT I do hope they'll make Megastones WAY more accessible than in SM |
We might get a few (10 at most) from Gen. 5-7 species... We never know...
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As much as I loved Megalutions, I don't think they'll make them more prominent, nor introduce new ones, unfortunately :\
I really loved Megalutions and thought they were a really great concept in Gen VI, but the fact TPCi banned Megalutions in VGC, pretty much speaks for itself, and their stance of Megalutions this generation. Sadly :| |
Much as I would love to see a Mega Milotic I don't think we'll be getting any new Mega Evolutions any time soon.
They absolutely should have all Mega Stones available in game this time though instead of most of the Gen 1 ones and a handful of others. The idea of holding many of the Megas back to give them as borderline events for the online competitions was stupid as was the fact many of the most popular ones are still unavailable. There is no excuse in holding back that many Megas. Most of us are still waiting for Hoenn starters Mega Stones and even longer for Gardevoirs. Maybe Game Freak think Megas were a bad idea but at least let us use them not waiting nearly a year for them. |
As the last couple of posts showed, it's pretty much safe to say Game Freak hit the final nail in the coffin for Mega Evolution.
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Like a couple of post said I hope they make it so all the stones are already out. Feels like everything is incomplete with only having some and not all.
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I do admit making some Mega Stones event-only was a bad decision by Game Freak. Just because something's not in the Alola Dex doesn't mean you can try to erase it completely.
Game Freak were literally going too far by the meaning of regional Pokedex this generation. |
Who knows if mega evolutions return? GF likes to move onto new features for the next gen.
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though its not like the mega stones where the first time they made this mistake, they did it before with the light ball during gen 5. honestly, i'd rather have the mega stones requiring you to beat a mega evolved totem version that corisponds with the mega stone you wish to get. like beating a totem mega beedrill to get a Beedrillite, totem mega mewtwo x to get a Mewtwonite X to get a Mewtwonite X a totem mega mewtwo y to get a Mewtwonite Y ect. and set them up as Boss Rush |
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