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-Nonsense- June 8th, 2017 7:11 PM

I don't think so, Mega evolution seems like an afterthought now and it'll probably stay that way since its all about Zmoves/power this gen.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 9th, 2017 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GnX1 (Post 9672959)
I don't think so, Mega evolution seems like an afterthought now and it'll probably stay that way since its all about Zmoves/power this gen.

That's true. It would be cool if GF linked the two. It's theorized that the Z-Crystals are connected to the ultra dimension by Kukui. And the energy that comes from it reminds me of Infinite Energy which is connected to Mega Evolutions and Primals.

pkmin3033 June 9th, 2017 12:21 PM

Honestly, I like the idea that Z-Crystals are unique to the reality where Mega Evolution doesn't exist, rather than something from Ultra Space, given that you can't use Z-Crystals with Mega Evolved Pokemon. There are some interesting similarities between the two they could easily link together in USUM if they wanted to, though. Unfortunately, since the Mega Evolution was Gen VI's gimmick and was more or less wrapped up with ORAS, it seems unlikely it'll feature in USUM at all...

Darkbirt June 9th, 2017 1:10 PM

I think that Game Freak is trying to move away from Mega evolution. They've got some issues Mega's. It's a nightmare for Pokédesigners, because they need to design a new Pokémon every time for a Mega evolution. This restricts the number of Pokémon that can Mega evolve and it makes it a bit unfair for Pokémon that can't Mega evolve. While, Z-moves are much more fair, every Pokémon can use it. And it doesn't require extra Pokémon designs.

pkmin3033 June 9th, 2017 1:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkbirt (Post 9673823)
I think that Game Freak is trying to move away from Mega evolution. They've got some issues Mega's. It's a nightmare for Pokédesigners, because they need to design a new Pokémon every time for a Mega evolution. This restricts the number of Pokémon that can Mega evolve and it makes it a bit unfair for Pokémon that can't Mega evolve. While, Z-moves are much more fair, every Pokémon can use it. And it doesn't require extra Pokémon designs.

The problem with your theory here is that Game Freak are making Alola forms of old Pokemon...and from a design perspective at least, isn't that essentially the same thing? In fact, Alolan forms are MORE work because, with the exception of Raichu, Exeggcutor, and Marowak, the Alolan form Pokemon introduced in SM are all multi-stage.

I agree from a gameplay perspective Z-Moves are fairer and generally more balanced than Mega Evolutions...but I don't think design has anything to do with why Game Freak are moving away from Mega Evolution.

Famon June 9th, 2017 3:24 PM

Honestly , I think that its unfair that some pokemon got megevoution while other didn't.
Specially among starter pokemons!
Also , Exclusive Z-move does not make up for megevolution.
Just think , Who is more useful ? Mega charizard X with Touch claw ability that gain dragon typing and star boost Or Incineroar with Moonlight Assault that he can use only once in one turn against only one target.
Basically , It like determining Kento and Hoenn starter to be superior then every other starter Pokemon since they can Megevolve.
Not to mention that they can still use all other Z-move without megevolving except the one exclusive to sudden pokemon.

Leòmhann teine June 9th, 2017 7:39 PM

I would love new mega evolutions and new Alola forms. One thing that would be cool is if they did Alola form mega evolutions and I really want Luxray to get a mega or an Alolan form or both. However it is definitely not likely. They didn't add anything new to previous generations themes in a new generation. We are probably only gonna see mega beasts, Alolan forms, and everything else introduced in S/M. That doesn't mean it isn't impossible though and maybe if we pray to Arceus we will get new megas.

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Originally Posted by shadowmoon522 (Post 9670774)
pokemon fusion was a 5th gen thing, but alas we now have a blade liger
http://www.serebii.net/ultrasunultramoon/2.jpg

Just being nitpicky but it's not a liger. It's just a metal sun lion. The stripes it has don't look like a tigers and thus don't warrent being called a liger. But it doesn't matter if I think that just what you think.

smocks June 9th, 2017 10:37 PM

As much as I love Mega evolutions, I'm pretty gosh darn sure they won't be making a comeback :(

BUT I do hope they'll make Megastones WAY more accessible than in SM

thedarkdragon11 June 9th, 2017 11:50 PM

We might get a few (10 at most) from Gen. 5-7 species... We never know...

shadowmoon522 June 10th, 2017 9:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Leòmhann teine (Post 9674044)
I would love new mega evolutions and new Alola forms. One thing that would be cool is if they did Alola form mega evolutions and I really want Luxray to get a mega or an Alolan form or both. However it is definitely not likely. They didn't add anything new to previous generations themes in a new generation. We are probably only gonna see mega beasts, Alolan forms, and everything else introduced in S/M. That doesn't mean it isn't impossible though and maybe if we pray to Arceus we will get new megas.

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Just being nitpicky but it's not a liger. It's just a metal sun lion. The stripes it has don't look like a tigers and thus don't warrent being called a liger. But it doesn't matter if I think that just what you think.

http://i.imgur.com/ZeUJbe4.png

Zeiro June 10th, 2017 9:42 PM

As much as I loved Megalutions, I don't think they'll make them more prominent, nor introduce new ones, unfortunately :\

I really loved Megalutions and thought they were a really great concept in Gen VI, but the fact TPCi banned Megalutions in VGC, pretty much speaks for itself, and their stance of Megalutions this generation. Sadly :|

LilyGardy June 11th, 2017 2:00 AM

Much as I would love to see a Mega Milotic I don't think we'll be getting any new Mega Evolutions any time soon.

They absolutely should have all Mega Stones available in game this time though instead of most of the Gen 1 ones and a handful of others. The idea of holding many of the Megas back to give them as borderline events for the online competitions was stupid as was the fact many of the most popular ones are still unavailable. There is no excuse in holding back that many Megas. Most of us are still waiting for Hoenn starters Mega Stones and even longer for Gardevoirs. Maybe Game Freak think Megas were a bad idea but at least let us use them not waiting nearly a year for them.

Hikamaru June 11th, 2017 7:02 AM

As the last couple of posts showed, it's pretty much safe to say Game Freak hit the final nail in the coffin for Mega Evolution.

-Nonsense- June 11th, 2017 7:36 AM

Like a couple of post said I hope they make it so all the stones are already out. Feels like everything is incomplete with only having some and not all.

Hikamaru June 11th, 2017 8:12 PM

I do admit making some Mega Stones event-only was a bad decision by Game Freak. Just because something's not in the Alola Dex doesn't mean you can try to erase it completely.

Game Freak were literally going too far by the meaning of regional Pokedex this generation.

Alexander18 June 16th, 2017 12:28 PM

Who knows if mega evolutions return? GF likes to move onto new features for the next gen.

Hikamaru June 21st, 2017 3:47 PM

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Originally Posted by colours (Post 9676214)
Honestly, I'd be more than satisfied at this point if all the Mega Stones were in USUM. I have zero expectations for any new megas (considering this is Alola, as I mentioned, I have my doubts that Megas would play any significant part at all), so that's really all I want.

I do hope Game Freak learn from that mistake of only allowing regional Dex stuff into the game and locking everything else behind an event, but knowing me it'll probably not happen.

shadowmoon522 June 22nd, 2017 7:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexander18 (Post 9680929)
Who knows if mega evolutions return? GF likes to move onto new features for the next gen.

they will, for the same reason as to why the Adamant, Lustrous & Griseous Orbs, the Soul Dew, the Burn Chill Douse & Shock Drives, Reveal Glass, Prison Bottle, Plates, DNA Splicers, Light Ball, Lucky Punch, & Farfetch'd's Stick keep returning.
the same thing will also go with Z moves & the memories when we move to gen 8

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9685050)
I do hope Game Freak learn from that mistake of only allowing regional Dex stuff into the game and locking everything else behind an event, but knowing me it'll probably not happen.

same thing with the mistake of making the national dex online only.
though its not like the mega stones where the first time they made this mistake, they did it before with the light ball during gen 5. honestly, i'd rather have the mega stones requiring you to beat a mega evolved totem version that corisponds with the mega stone you wish to get. like beating a totem mega beedrill to get a Beedrillite, totem mega mewtwo x to get a Mewtwonite X to get a Mewtwonite X a totem mega mewtwo y to get a Mewtwonite Y ect. and set them up as Boss Rush


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